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Originally Posted by Soonerdawg
Did you even read this article?
The warm weather was caused because the jet stream didn't drop down for a month. The rest of the world is cold.
You're mind is made up to the point that you apparently can't even read an article objectively.
Sooner, have you read any of the other articles posted through here about how the Gulfstream has slowed down and is not doing what it is supposed to be doing because of the lack of Ice melt/remelt issues caused by global warming? Or is it that you like jerking my chain?
Get out a globe and look and see what lattitude lines Europe sits on. They are about on the same lattitude as far north Canada but enjoy nice warm weather due to these currents and warm ocean water. That shit is broke to put it bluntly, and YES, they are cold. Other areas of the globe are suffering the same problems with other ocean currents.
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Originally Posted by Brian96
Wow. In the millions of years of earth's existence, I had the fortune to live through the warmest January EVER? Or, in the millions of years of cycles of temperature change on earth, I have had the fortune of living through the warmest January in less than a nanosecond of cosmic time?
Sorry to say EVER, but since recorded temperatures. That makes September 05', and January 06' two record months. Am I missing more? Like the whole year of 2005?
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Originally Posted by altadawg
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) -- Amid concerns that global warming is melting away the icy habitats where polar bears live, the federal government is reviewing whether they should be considered a threatened species.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said Tuesday that protection may be warranted under the Endangered Species Act, and began a review process to consider if the bears should be listed.
The agency will seek information about population distribution, habitat, effects of climate change on the bears and their prey, potential threats from development, contaminants and poaching during the next 60 days.
The decision comes after the Center for Biological Diversity of Joshua Tree, California, filed a petition last year that said polar bears could become extinct by the end of the century because their sea ice habitat is melting away.
The group, joined by the environmental groups Natural Resources Defense Council and Greenpeace, also filed a federal lawsuit in December to seek federal protections for the polar bear.
"I think it's a very important acknowledgment that global warming is transforming the Arctic and threatening polar bears with extinction," said Kassie Siegel, lead author of the center's petition.
Fish and Wildlife Service spokesman Bruce Woods said the petition "contains sufficient information to convince us that we need to do a more thorough analysis of the polar bear population worldwide."
Polar bears under U.S. jurisdiction are found only in Alaska. They spend most of their lives on sea ice, but the center said if current rates of decline in sea ice continue, the summertime Arctic could be completely ice-free well before the end of the century.
There is some disagreement about whether polar bears are actually being threatened.
Federal wildlife officials report healthy populations of polar bears, and are working on a hard population count. However, the University of Colorado's National Snow and Ice Data Center, NASA and the University of Washington said last fall that there was a "stunning reduction in Arctic sea ice at the end of the northern summer."
If the polar bear were listed as a threatened species, federal regulatory agencies would be required to consider how their decisions affect polar bears.
A listing could affect industries seeking permission to release greenhouse gases or decisions such as setting fuel economy standards for vehicles, Siegel said.
Looks as if Natural Selection will have to take over. Maybe they will evolve into a swimming mammal kind of like the whales.:icon_razz
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Originally Posted by Brian96
Wow. In the millions of years of earth's existence, I had the fortune to live through the warmest January EVER? Or, in the millions of years of cycles of temperature change on earth, I have had the fortune of living through the warmest January in less than a nanosecond of cosmic time?
Actually, the earth is only 6000 years old according to some on here, so yeah, you may have.
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Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
Actually, the earth is only 6000 years old according to some on here, so yeah, you may have.
Who ever said that?
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Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
the Gulfstream has slowed down and is not doing what it is supposed to be doing because of the lack of Ice melt/remelt issues caused by global warming?
Please tell me you are not claiming that the theory that the gulf stream is slowing down caused the jet stream to stay in a straight line during January. What a reach.
Nothing in that article says anything about the "gulf" stream, only the "jet" stream. Big difference.
Look, DB, I will admit that there are people who are measuring water temperatures that are finding the temperature of the earth's waters are higher by a few degrees than they were. The problem I have is, I'm not going to advocate that we kill our economy because you have scientist with an agenda who want to blame our wonderful economy for that small rise in temperature.
The people who are pushing this global warming theory hate and are jealous of our economy. I expect England, Germany and any other countries who wants what we have to talk us into tying our hands behind our economic backs. They want us to lose our productivity. They want us to ride around on bicycles like they do in Europe. Personally, I want to ride around in my car and go where I want to go, quickly and as far as I want to go.
Your interpretation of this article on the jet stream tells me that you cannot see this objectively, because you have an agenda. Whether global warming exists is somewhat debatable, and should be debated by those who can do something about it. The fact that we had a warm, wonderful January had nothing to do with global warming, and you seriously are losing a lot of credibilty by arguing that it did. In the meantime, your worring cost you some very wonderful days.
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Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
Actually, the earth is only 6000 years old according to some on here, so yeah, you may have.
Yeah and it's flat too. :D
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Sooner, you don't pay attention very well. You mentioned the fact that Europe was freezing. There is a reason it is freezing and that has to do with the GULF stream not the JET stream.
I did not address the jet stream because I haven't read enough on it to argue the matter. However, I could probably theorize that the lack of ice/warmer artic temperatures may have something to do with it.
Agendas/jealousy? Talk about a "reach". What a freaking joke. However, getting more fatasses on bikes may not be a bad idea. It may solve the skyrocketing health costs in this country.
And, yes, I enjoyed a wonderful day down in Austin, TX. I managed to pick up a few miles out in the nice warm sunshine.
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Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
Sooner, you don't pay attention very well. You mentioned the fact that Europe was freezing. There is a reason it is freezing and that has to do with the GULF stream not the JET stream.
I did not address the jet stream because I haven't read enough on it to argue the matter. However, I could probably theorize that the lack of ice/warmer artic temperatures may have something to do with it.
Agendas/jealousy? Talk about a "reach". What a freaking joke. However, getting more fatasses on bikes may not be a bad idea. It may solve the skyrocketing health costs in this country.
And, yes, I enjoyed a wonderful day down in Austin, TX. I managed to pick up a few miles out in the nice warm sunshine.
Blah, blah, blah - You win. The United States sucks and has set off an extinction level event that will kill off our grand children. Have a good night.
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Just to be fair, there are agendas on both sides of the issue.
The fact is, we as humans do tend to be wasteful as a race, and we Americans blow the rest of the race out of the water with our wastefulness.
Our technology--and our economy--have developed enough since the beginning of the industrial revolution that we have no excuse for wanton wastefulness. But that doesn't mean our economy could absorb some of the extreme policies that have been proposed--Kyoto in particular.
But let's keep our eye on Iran. If things turn bad there, it may solve our problems for us, by raising the cost of petroleum so high that it cripples our economy and forces a change. Of course, we might not learn the lesson, since even the oil crisis in the '70s didn't learn us nothin'.
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We shouldn't be myopic. However, some of you were just waiting for this to be posted. Second biggest winter storm in NYC history. Hum...
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/12/D8FNOIC00.html
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
after it hadnt snowed up and down the coast in months.... big whoop. not helping the drought in texas.
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Originally Posted by altadawg
after it hadnt snowed up and down the coast in months.... big whoop. not helping the drought in texas.
Somewhat true. But it sure is fun watching those yankees freeze their butts off. :D
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Is this the longest thread ever or when will it be? Late night read for something new every day.
Two feet of snow wouldn't be enough moisture to bring Fayetteville, Arkansas, out of the drought, either.
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We had 11 degrees Saturday night and expect 19 by dawn Monday. But this used to be an ordinary situation a few years back. I have worn a T shirt to work three out of every five work days this winter and some nights didn't even put a jacket on to drive home after midnight! Not a good thing, although it is convenient and pleasant to be outdoors. Some weekends we opened the windows a few hours both days! Despite this situation, we have had extremely high natural-gas billls!
Our snow was only a few short-lived flurries and the wind blew it away this weekend, leaving little to even soak in to the extremely dry soil. Better than nothing.
