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Chicom propaganda and cover up...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I guess you couldn’t find it.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Even Nature says there is still no substantial evidence to support the lab leak hypothesis.
Nature says? That a new leftist buzz word?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Nature, you know the most cited scientific journal in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
oooohkayQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01529-3Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
The same nature that hasn’t seen certain components of this virus anywhere in nature ever, in history.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Sorry, I don’t know the technical terminology.
Did you read the article in Nature?Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
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Is it suspicious that no animal has been identified as transmitting the virus to humans?
Outbreak-origin investigations often take years, and some culprits remain unknown. It took 14 years to nail down the origin of the SARS epidemic, which began with a virus in bats that spread to humans, most likely through civets. To date, a complete Ebola virus has never been isolated from an animal in the region where the world’s largest outbreak occurred between 2013 and 2016.
Origin investigations are complicated because outbreaks among animals that aren't the main hosts of a particular virus, such as civets in the case of SARS, are often sporadic. Researchers must find the right animal before it dies or clears the infection. And, even if the animal tests positive, viruses found in saliva, faeces or blood are often degraded, making it difficult to sequence the pathogen’s whole genome.
And then there was this part:
Bottom line - one day someone might find evidence of a lab leak, but they haven’t found it yet.Quote:
Does the virus have features that suggest it was created in a lab?
Several researchers have looked into whether features of SARS-CoV-2 signal that it was bioengineered. One of the first teams to do so, led by Kristian Andersen, a virologist at Scripps Research in La Jolla, California, determined that this was “improbable” for a few reasons, including a lack of signatures of genetic manipulation6. Since then, others have asked whether the virus’s furin cleavage site — a feature that helps it to enter cells — is evidence of engineering, because SARS-CoV-2 has these sites but its closest relatives don’t. The furin cleavage site is important because it's in the virus's spike protein, and cleavage of the protein at that site is necessary for the virus to infect cells.
After the WHO report: what’s next in the search for COVID’s origins
But many other coronaviruses have furin cleavage sites, such as coronaviruses that cause colds7. Because viruses containing the site are scattered across the coronavirus family tree, rather than confined to a group of closely related viruses, Stephen Goldstein, a virologist at the University of Utah in Salt Lake City, says the site probably evolved multiple times because it provides an evolutionary advantage. Convergent evolution — the process by which organisms that aren’t closely related independently evolve similar traits as a result of adapting to similar environments — is incredibly common.
Another feature of SARS-CoV-2 that has drawn attention is a combination of nucleotides that underlie a segment of the furin cleavage site: CGG (these encode the amino acid arginine). A Medium article that speculates on a lab origin for SARS-CoV-2 quotes David Baltimore, a Nobel laureate and professor emeritus at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, as saying that viruses don’t usually have that particular code for arginine, but humans often do — a “smoking gun”, hinting that researchers might have tampered with SARS-CoV-2’s genome.
Andersen says that Baltimore was incorrect about that detail, however. In SARS-CoV-2, about 3% of the nucleotides encoding arginine are CGG, he says. And he points out that around 5% of those encoding arginine in the virus that caused the original SARS epidemic are CGG, too. In an e-mail to Nature, Baltimore says Andersen could be correct that evolution produced SARS-CoV-2, but adds that “there are other possibilities and they need careful consideration, which is all I meant to be saying”.
Because all of those who know and/or had such evidence were rounded up by the Chicoms and executed. That Australian researcher was kicked out of the country prior to his being able to gather physical evidence...the Chicoms would have taken it from him anyway. But using all his experience(as a virology researcher) and what he knew about the Wuhan Lab he has maintained it's not only possible, but probable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And, once more, the Chicoms did not have to bioengineer it, or be in the process of trying to mutate it, or some such endeavor for them to have in their possession the virus, in some form, in some host, and yes, in the Wuhan Lab. Unless you are prepared to argue the China Virus pandemic was all just a bad dream for all of us, there is no dispute the virus known as SARS COVID-19 frickin' exists! It exists, and had to start its journey to pandemic status somewhere and at some time. And ALL arrows point directly at the Wuhan Lab.
Again, there is no evidence that is was in a lab. Pure speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Remember that Chinese defector that was with DIA for 3 months unknown to CIA and FBI and provided specific details regarding Covid? His identity is potentially now out.
Chinese-language anti-communist media and Twitter are abuzz this week with rumors that a vice minister of State Security, Dong Jingwei defected in mid-February, flying from Hong Kong to the United States with his daughter, Dong Yang.
Dong is, or was, a longtime official in China’s Ministry of State Security (MSS), also known as the Guoanbu. His publicly available background indicates that he was responsible for the Ministry’s counterintelligence efforts in China, i.e., spy-catching, since being promoted to vice minister in April 2018. If the stories are true, Dong would be the highest-level defector in the history of the People’s Republic of China.
The Free Beacon reports that U.S. intelligence officials haven’t come to a conclusion about whether or not the students being investigated were spies, but RedState is told that whether or not one wants to use the term “spy,” those students were sent back to the United States with specific information-gathering directives with the purpose of helping Beijing understand the US government’s response to the pandemic at a much deeper level than they could through publicly-available documents. Those students (spies) were charged with reporting back on public policy changes, economic response and damage, impacts on the healthcare system (equipment/hospital bed shortages, etc), supply chain impacts (including how long it took things like semiconductors from China to reach the United States), civil unrest, and more.
In addition, Dong has provided DIA with the following information:
---Early pathogenic studies of the virus we now know as SARS-CoV-2
---Models of predicted COVID-19 spread and damage to the US and the world
---Financial records detailing which exact organizations and governments funded the research on SARS-CoV-2 and other biological warfare research
---Names of US citizens who provide intel to China
---Names of Chinese spies working in the US or attending US universities
---Financial records showing US businessmen and public officials who’ve received money from the Chinese government
---Details of meetings US government officials had (perhaps unwittingly) with Chinese spies and members of Russia’s SVR
---How the Chinese government gained access to a CIA communications system, leading to the death of dozens of Chinese people who were working with the CIA
LINK
LMAO!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I guess they need a Steele dossier and illegally obtained fisa warrants.
A different "story" on who was Patient Zero...
From Wuhan to Paris to Milan, the search for ‘patient zero’ (msn.com)
Of course, they say they still don't know for sure, so the original "story" of the woman janitorial worker at Wuhan Lab remains a viable possibility. Posting this link in the interest of a complete disclosure of "news" articles on the matter.
Which found nothing, but it gave the conspiracy theorists (the real wanked cranks) something to whine about.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47