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google 'aquatic ape theory'... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...y+&btnG=Search . some people would argue with you on that. but we have another thread for this stuff. just a little interesting reading for you or anyone else who's interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubunique
sorry about diverting from global warming...please, continue...:D
I just wanted to join the chicken littles and post an article that has a trend. I'm sure that somehow global warming is causing sharks to not bite as much.Quote:
Originally Posted by aubunique
Sooner, watch out for Satan! You could be in chest high water right now and Satan is that Great White circling you! Do your part to protect God's creation of planet Earth. Don't make fun of the destruction of God's favorite planet! That is something Satan would do.
BTW, can't you put some more clothes on that avatar of yours? Are you trying to stir up lust in men's loins?
I'll see if I can find a picture of Shakira wearing a fig leaf.Quote:
Originally Posted by saltydawg
Greenland Glaciers dumping more ice. It seems all the time tables are moving at a faster rate than any one expected.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060216/...TdmBHNlYwM3NTM-
AS GWB would tell you, with a twinkle in his eye, "Don't Worry! Be Happy!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
If ARbob and Sooner admit they are all wrong about this, I will quit posting on this thread.
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60 MINUTES: SCIENTIST SAYS GLOBAL WARMING HAS CAUSED MORE INTENSE HURRICANES LIKE KATRINA
Thu Feb 16 2006 12:27:11 2006
Rising ocean temperatures have increased the intensity of hurricanes like the one that decimated New Orleans, says a scientist in a 60 MINUTES report on global warming. Bob Correll, one of the world’s foremost authorities on climate change, appears in Scott Pelley’s report to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday, Feb. 19 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
“The oceans in the Northern Hemisphere are the warmest they’ve been on record,” says Correll. “When they get up in that temperature, they spin off hurricanes….The one thing we can say with a fairly high degree of confidence is the severity of the storms…these cyclonic events like hurricanes and cyclones…they’re going to be more severe,” he tells Pelley.
Correll is interviewed in Greenland above the Arctic Circle, where the rising temperature has caused the glacial ice in place for eons to steadily recede for the last few decades. “This is bell weather, a barometer….the warning that things are coming,” says Correll, who also predicts lowlands will be inundated by waters from the melting glaciers in the future. “In 10 years here in the Arctic, we see what the rest of the planet will see in 25 or 35 years from now,” he says. “The entire planet is out of balance,” says Correll.
Whether the change in temperature is a natural or man-made phenomenon has been a matter of debate, but Paul Mayewski of the University of Maine says the proof that man is responsible is in the ancient ice at the top of the world. There is evidence of high levels of “greenhouse gases,” like carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels that contribute to warming the earth’s surface, in the core samples of ice he collected in Greenland. “We haven’t seen CO2 levels like this in hundreds of thousands of years, if not millions of years,” says Mayewski. “It all points to something that has changed and something that has impacted the system which wasn’t doing it more than 100 years ago,” says Mayewski. “It’s human activity.”
The Bush Administration spends $5 billion a year on climate change research but the president refuses to sign a treaty to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
Correll says the sooner we curb the emissions, the better for the generations to come. Even total cessation of the burning of fossil fuels will not stop the warming immediately and to continue burning them will affect the planet into the distant future – perhaps thousands of years. “I try to tell [policymakers] exactly what we know scientifically. The science is, I believe, unassailable,” Correll tells Pelley.
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NOAA disagrees with your scientist with an agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
we have given the reasons for our skepticism on global warming alarmism, yet you continue to post this non-evidence that we have debunked and shown to prove nothing. why don't you post something when there's real evidence that we're all in danger?
is it this bob correll?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
http://www.canosoarus.com/09JetBike/JetBike01.htm
ARbob, I haven't seen you debunk anything. Please point me to where you have done this?
NASA scientist doesn't agree with Bush admin, bob, or sooner.
http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...icle345926.ece
Okay, I will be lazy and print an entire article like DB, SD and DC do, just to show we can copy and past articles that oppose their chicken little articles. And, if I choose, I can find another rehash of this article somewhere else if I choose to at a later date. In other words, this is nothing new, just like their articles are nothing new:
Hurricane Upsurge Not Linked to Global Warming, NOAA Concludes
Atlantic Ocean is in peak of 20- to 30-year natural pattern
Written By: Kerry Jackson
Published In: Environment News
Publication Date: February 1, 2006
Publisher: The Heartland Institute
The U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has concluded the upsurge in recent hurricane activity is not related to global warming.
In a study released November 29, 2005 NOAA concludes the Atlantic Ocean is experiencing more hurricanes because it is in a peak period of a 20- to 30-year natural hurricane pattern.
Natural Cycle Is Peaking
According to NOAA, the U.S. has been in a cycle of heightened Atlantic Ocean hurricane activity for the past 11 years. The cycle began in 1995 and is expected to continue for at least another decade. Importantly, the cycle is part of a naturally occurring pattern and is not in any way related to global warming activity, concluded NOAA.
"NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator," states the NOAA study. "These cycles, called 'the tropical multi-decadal signal,' typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming."
The current upsurge in hurricane activity is similar to the previous cycle of heightened hurricane activity lasting from the late 1920s to the late 1960s. An intervening cycle of below-normal hurricane activity occurred from 1970 to 1994, the NOAA study concludes.
"Since 1995, the tropical multi-decadal signal has produced lower wind shear (changing winds with height) and warmer waters across the tropical Atlantic, along with conducive winds coming off the west coast of Africa. This key combination of conditions produces active hurricane seasons," explains NOAA. "With an active hurricane era comes many more landfalling tropical storms, hurricanes and major hurricanes in the United States. ... The United States can expect ongoing high levels of landfalling tropical storms and hurricanes while we remain in this active era."
CO2 Not to Blame
Regarding the warmer Atlantic waters, the lower wind shear, and the conducive winds coming off the west coast of Africa, NOAA observes, "Research by NOAA scientists Gerry Bell and Muthuvel Chelliah, currently in press with the Journal of Climate, describes the tropical multi-decadal signal and shows that it accounts for the entire inter-related set of conditions that controls hurricane activity for decades at a time."
The NOAA study affirms the findings of most hurricane researchers. "There is consensus among NOAA hurricane researchers and forecasters that recent increases in hurricane activity are primarily the result of natural fluctuations," reports NOAA.
In interviews for this article, three of the nation's leading hurricane experts agreed with the NOAA assessment.
Chris Landsea, science and operations officer at the NOAA National Hurricane Center in Miami, Florida, observed any impact global warming might have on hurricane activity is neither large nor immediate.
"We may be looking at stronger hurricanes by 5 percent," Landsea said. "And even that is a very small change that is still way off in the future."
Even the potential 5 percent change in hurricane strength may be too small to measure. According to Landsea, hurricane experts can estimate a storm's winds "only to the nearest 5 mph."
"We can't even measure that [5 percent change], it's so small," Landsea said.
Current Activity Is Normal
Jeff Masters, director of meteorology for the popular Web site Weather Underground, confirmed global warming cannot be blamed for even the warmer Atlantic Ocean temperatures, let alone the other factors necessary for heightened hurricane conditions.
"Everyone agrees the tropical oceans have warmed a half-degree Fahrenheit over the last 100 years," Masters said. However, he noted, multiple studies on the subject have reached conflicting conclusions on causation.
It is "way too early to say one way or the other" if global warming is responsible, Masters said.
William Gray, head of Colorado State University's Tropical Meteorology Project, reported that despite media claims to the contrary, most hurricane researchers are skeptical of asserted connections between global warming and recent hurricane activity.
"There is no evidence of changes in tropical storms compared to what we would normally expect during this current cycle," Gray said.
Jim Henson has staked his entire career on his stance on global warming. He better hope there is global warming or he will be disgraced. Well, perhaps not, because the chicken littles have framed the argument so that no matter what happens, there is global warming, even if it gets colder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgbitten
I thought the Kermit the Frog puppet guy was dead. :shocked2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soonerdawg