U-La-La, the 1st Gay University

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Aint nuthing wrong with no lesbians.

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Originally Posted by Tech77

If ULL's enrollment skyrockets due to this agenda they are embracing, I will be glad it is their school and not our's.

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Originally Posted by Soonerdawg

I'm all for U La La taking the Flaming Gayjun banner. It will create a culture at their university we should be able to easily compete against. Bleaux Gayjuns.

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My thoughts exactly. I think this is great. The U-La-La Flamin' Gayjuns. I hope ULL becomes a Mecca for LGBT students and Lafayette becomes the San Francisco of the South.

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Originally Posted by champion110

Do you want the Bible verses that were interpreted as promoting slavory too? Yes, they are in there. The reason they are in there is because slavory was common at the time. We seem to have come to our senses on that one.

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Surprise....a new topic. :icon_wink:

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Surprise....a new topic. :icon_wink:

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Only to make the point of how people that take the Bible literally have been wrong many times. Christianity does not have a sterling reputation throughout history. There have been some horrific sanctioned by the church crimes committed all in the name of Christianity. My point is that when one thinks that every word in the Bible is the total truth and use that for hate (and, yes, the comments on this thread by some are hate), they are usually misinterpreting the Bible.

So, you avoid the fact that slavory was endorsed and then the church (and Bible reading Christians) "changed their minds" if you wish, but you have to admit the same could be true in how they view the issue of Homosexuality.

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Originally Posted by champion110

????????? There are plenty of Gay and Straight kids with Homosexual parents. Not sure where you are living......

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I live in a rural MS town...don't know any gays in my town...the point is that if this world were meant for men to marry men...there would be no more off spring. Its not by chance that a penis fits into a vagina perfectly....God created it that way :)

Here's a summary from the Times Higher Education:
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.u...ode=420597&c=1

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

"Many" would not be hard to prove. I didn't say "most", because I don't have evidence other than a few specific examples that I know of. And 2 of the cases are not even a close call. In one specific case, the heterosexual mother is a religious nutso that is far more concerned with poisoning the children's relationships with their father (and emotionally/physically isolating the father) than looking after the children's well-being. It is truly disgusting, and her religion is the driving force.

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What a surprise! An atheist taking pot shots at religion and advocating for homosexuality.

Never saw that one coming..... :icon_roll: Yeah, right.

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Originally Posted by champion110

Only to make the point of how people that take the Bible literally have been wrong many times. Christianity does not have a sterling reputation throughout history. There have been some horrific sanctioned by the church crimes committed all in the name of Christianity. My point is that when one thinks that every word in the Bible is the total truth and use that for hate (and, yes, the comments on this thread by some are hate), they are usually misinterpreting the Bible.

So, you avoid the fact that slavory was endorsed and then the church (and Bible reading Christians) "changed their minds" if you wish, but you have to admit the same could be true in how they view the issue of Homosexuality.

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It may be meaningful that discussion of homosexuality so often leads to Biblical criticism or revisionism. The admonitions regarding homosexuality may be as much for spiritual protection as they are for physical and social protection.

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Originally Posted by LookingForResults

It may be meaningful that discussion of homosexuality so often leads to Biblical criticism or revisionism. The admonitions regarding homosexuality may be as much for spiritual protection as they are for physical and social protection.

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This!

I fail to understand what needs protecting........ physical or social......

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Originally Posted by LookingForResults

It may be meaningful that discussion of homosexuality so often leads to Biblical criticism or revisionism. The admonitions regarding homosexuality may be as much for spiritual protection as they are for physical and social protection.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

This!

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Originally Posted by champion110

I fail to understand what needs protecting........ physical or social......

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I imagine LFR meant to keep from grieving the Holy Spirit for one.

LFR and TT doth protest too much, methinks.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

LFR and TT doth protest too much, methinks.

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As a declared atheist, you wish to think no other. It's a free world, just keep it honest. It's all you've got.

The Family Research Council is asking people to contact the ULL president and ULS board to ask them to stop the ULL LGBT program.
http://www.frcaction.org/index.cfm?i...f=AL12G04#FORM

The Lafayette Bishop releases a statement regarding the ULL LGBT program.
http://www.katc.com/news/bishop-mike...-ul-lafayette/

We should be getting a statement any day now from Richard Simmons.

Some of you are living in the 50's. This degree program has a lot of application when looking at the 40% of homeless youth are Homosexual or the extremely disturbing rate of Gay suicide among youth. These are just the ones that admit it. No telling what the stat really is........ The fact is that there is a history of LBGT in our country and our world. It is very interesting, if you take the time to read it. This thread has shown how much lack of education is out there on this subject. Good for ULL. It is the only good thing that I have seen them do. In the Northeast, this probably wouldn't be an issue. We need to expand our minds outside of our comfort zone to really be educated. What happened to that thought? You don't have to agree, but be educated on the subject before forming a complete stance on it.

As for those organizations protesting, it makes the South look silly and uneducated. I support their right to protest, though - just like I support ULL for stepping out and trying to educate instead of hide behind the Southern curtain.

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Originally Posted by champion110

Some of you are living in the 50's. This degree program has a lot of application when looking at the 40% of homeless youth are Homosexual or the extremely disturbing rate of Gay suicide among youth. These are just the ones that admit it. No telling what the stat really is........ The fact is that there is a history of LBGT in our country and our world. It is very interesting, if you take the time to read it. This thread has shown how much lack of education is out there on this subject. Good for ULL. It is the only good thing that I have seen them do. In the Northeast, this probably wouldn't be an issue. We need to expand our minds outside of our comfort zone to really be educated. What happened to that thought? You don't have to agree, but be educated on the subject before forming a complete stance on it.

As for those organizations protesting, it makes the South look silly and uneducated. I support their right to protest, though - just like I support ULL for stepping out and trying to educate instead of hide behind the Southern curtain.

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Our parents and grandparents had a few things wrong in the '50s, but they had a whole bunch of stuff DEAD ON RIGHT, in accordance with the teachings of The Bible.

It seems there are minds that are just as closed to the possibility that LGBT studies should NOT be taught as there are those whose minds are closed to the possibility that they should.

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Originally Posted by LookingForResults

It seems there are minds that are just as closed to the possibility that LGBT studies should NOT be taught as there are those whose minds are closed to the possibility that they should.

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Yep! And, I am listening to both sides. Just because I agree with one side, doesn't mean I am not listening and trying to take in the other. Due to my line of work and my own family, though, I have a bias. It is a good bias, though, because it comes out on the side of acceptance of people.

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Originally Posted by Tech77

Our parents and grandparents had a few things wrong in the '50s, but they had a whole bunch of stuff DEAD ON RIGHT, in accordance with the teachings of The Bible.

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How do you know? Seems that they were just as strong minded on some things that were wrong, as those they had right. Add to this that time and culture changes.

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Originally Posted by champion110

Some of you are living in the 50's. This degree program has a lot of application when looking at the 40% of homeless youth are Homosexual or the extremely disturbing rate of Gay suicide among youth. These are just the ones that admit it. No telling what the stat really is........ The fact is that there is a history of LBGT in our country and our world. It is very interesting, if you take the time to read it. This thread has shown how much lack of education is out there on this subject. Good for ULL. It is the only good thing that I have seen them do. In the Northeast, this probably wouldn't be an issue. We need to expand our minds outside of our comfort zone to really be educated. What happened to that thought? You don't have to agree, but be educated on the subject before forming a complete stance on it.

As for those organizations protesting, it makes the South look silly and uneducated. I support their right to protest, though - just like I support ULL for stepping out and trying to educate instead of hide behind the Southern curtain.

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Perhaps they need counseling and not a curriculum. And for you to assume that people on here posting comments not in support of this to be uneducated and people living in the 50's, to the point that you actually state we are uneducated, is pretty uneducated of you. For many, this is not an education issue, but a moral issue. There isn't a thing in this world that someone can say to me to make me think I need to be tolerant, or accepting, or anything else of this lifestyle. That doesn't mean that I hate those people. I'm a musician (among other things) and, as you may imagine, have several good friends that are gay. But that doesn't mean I agree with it. And it CERTAINLY doesn't mean I will ever do anything to support, accept, or tolerate anything that promotes that lifestyle.

Now, if you include some of these classes in a counseling curriculum (which is normally the case), I can support that.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

Perhaps they need counseling and not a curriculum. And for you to assume that people on here posting comments not in support of this to be uneducated and people living in the 50's, to the point that you actually state we are uneducated, is pretty uneducated of you. For many, this is not an education issue, but a moral issue. There isn't a thing in this world that someone can say to me to make me think I need to be tolerant, or accepting, or anything else of this lifestyle. That doesn't mean that I hate those people. I'm a musician (among other things) and, as you may imagine, have several good friends that are gay. But that doesn't mean I agree with it. And it CERTAINLY doesn't mean I will ever do anything to support, accept, or tolerate anything that promotes that lifestyle.

Now, if you include some of these classes in a counseling curriculum (which is normally the case), I can support that.

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You can be educated in some topics, but not others. I will admit that I am not educated in engineering. When it comes to the social sciences, though, everyone thinks they are. And, it is not a lifestyle or choice.

And here is the point where no one is changing their minds. Some wonder why I don't post on the political board. It is because it just comes to a screaching halt when we are all set on what we believe. I don't see a point in discussing a point, if it doesn't go anywhere. Politics are the same way - people are so set in what they believe that they aren't willing to listen to anything else. I am not saying that I am not guilty of that, as well. No one is willing to concede on anything. There is no debate anymore. Most topics are dead on arrival, because we have become a nation divided.

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Originally Posted by champion110

Yep! And, I am listening to both sides. Just because I agree with one side, doesn't mean I am not listening and trying to take in the other. Due to my line of work and my own family, though, I have a bias. It is a good bias, though, because it comes out on the side of acceptance of people.

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I'm not seeking to fault you Champ (well, yes I am, but not in a confrontational way), but you are being no more fair-minded than the other side. Both sides are responding only. If you are listening to the other side, then all you've determined is that the other side is living in the 50's, that they need to read the Bible in a different light, that they refuse to recognize that society changes, that they don't care about people (at least not as much as you), and that they look like dumb Southerners.

If you "listened" and heard accurately, then I say you're wasting time with Neanderthal's.

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Originally Posted by champion110

How do you know? Seems that they were just as strong minded on some things that were wrong, as those they had right. Add to this that time and culture changes.

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God doesn't issue a new Bible every year to change with "the times."

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Originally Posted by champion110

You can be educated in some topics, but not others. I will admit that I am not educated in engineering. When it comes to the social sciences, though, everyone thinks they are. And, it is not a lifestyle or choice.

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You missed my point. Regarding social issues, two people can be equally educated about an issue and believe differently. You make it seem as though we are not educated at the same level as you regarding this lifestyle. And I'm calling it a lifestyle because it is a lifestyle...but that doesn't preclude it from being more or less that just a lifestyle. Depending on your "education," I concede that this...condition?...influences a lifestyle full of choices. So yeah, it really is when you open your mind a little.

I know socially several friends whom are gay, I work with patients and employees in healthcare whom are gay, and employ several LPCs, social workers, psychologists, and a few psychiatrists. I've built 3 hospital-based mental health programs, 2 comprehensive counseling programs, and have consulted with...I don't know how many. So now that I've laid out part of my resume (for demonstration purposes only)...I'm pretty well versed, but believe differently than you. And that's okay.

And I'll be happy to debate it with you all day long...

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Originally Posted by LookingForResults

I'm not seeking to fault you Champ (well, yes I am, but not in a confrontational way), but you are being no more fair-minded than the other side. Both sides are responding only. If you are listening to the other side, then all you've determined is that the other side is living in the 50's, that they need to read the Bible in a different light, that they refuse to recognize that society changes, that they don't care about people (at least not as much as you), and that they look like dumb Southerners.

If you "listened" and heard accurately, then I say you're wasting time with Neanderthal's.

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I admit my own bias, though. I am listening (or reading) the responses, as well. It is just as frustrating to me as it is on the other side of the issue.

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Originally Posted by Tech77

God doesn't issue a new Bible every year to change with "the times."

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It has been interpreted to another language that has words that were not even words when it was written. Add to that the many interpretations of it. Add to that the fact that Christians have always interpreted it to suit their needs at the time. No one here follows it word for word. You would be in jail, if you did. To me, the Bible is God's word, but many interpret it differently. I use it as a guide in my prayers - not as a instruction book of what to do each day. That may be where we differ. I don't see how anyone can dismiss the basic language translation of it, though. I can see how they can interpret it differently.

Throughout history, Christians have changed their views on what certain things mean in the Bible.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

You missed my point. Regarding social issues, two people can be equally educated about an issue and believe differently. You make it seem as though we are not educated at the same level as you regarding this lifestyle. And I'm calling it a lifestyle because it is a lifestyle...but that doesn't preclude it from being more or less that just a lifestyle. Depending on your "education," I concede that this...condition?...influences a lifestyle full of choices. So yeah, it really is when you open your mind a little.

I know socially several friends whom are gay, I work with patients and employees in healthcare whom are gay, and employ several LPCs, social workers, psychologists, and a few psychiatrists. I've built 3 hospital-based mental health programs, 2 comprehensive counseling programs, and have consulted with...I don't know how many. So now that I've laid out part of my resume (for demonstration purposes only)...I'm pretty well versed, but believe differently than you. And that's okay.

And I'll be happy to debate it with you all day long...

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I agree with the bolded and you stated it more eloquently than I did. That is the crux of the issue on this, though. Also, I am well versed, and that is okay, as well. Many on here are not and refuse to read any literature or experience (getting to know others different than themselves), though. Those are the ones I am talking about. It is an endless debate, though. There are two points of view. LFR was right earlier in that until science finds the reason that people are Gay, the debate will not end. Even then, I think that many will still take the other point of view from science.

As for "choice". Yes, one can choose to live a celebate or "fake" life. I have seen horrible reprecusions of this in my work. I imagine you have too, if you work in this field. It is like asking you to live life celbate or as a Homosexual. It isn't going to work and will catch up with you psychologically. To love and be loved is a basic human need.

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Originally Posted by champion110

It has been interpreted to another language that has words that were not even words when it was written. Add to that the many interpretations of it. Add to that the fact that Christians have always interpreted it to suit their needs at the time. No one here follows it word for word. You would be in jail, if you did. To me, the Bible is God's word, but many interpret it differently. I use it as a guide in my prayers - not as a instruction book of what to do each day. That may be where we differ. I don't see how anyone can dismiss the basic language translation of it, though. I can see how they can interpret it differently.

Throughout history, Christians have changed their views on what certain things mean in the Bible.

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There are some things in the text that are very clearly laid out. You're not talking about "interpretation" per se, but about a stance toward the Scripture.

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Originally Posted by champion110

It has been interpreted to another language that has words that were not even words when it was written. Add to that the many interpretations of it. Add to that the fact that Christians have always interpreted it to suit their needs at the time. No one here follows it word for word. You would be in jail, if you did. To me, the Bible is God's word, but many interpret it differently. I use it as a guide in my prayers - not as a instruction book of what to do each day. That may be where we differ. I don't see how anyone can dismiss the basic language translation of it, though. I can see how they can interpret it differently.

Throughout history, Christians have changed their views on what certain things mean in the Bible.

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I think your quote... "You can be educated in some topics, but not others. I will admit that I am not educated in engineering. When it comes to the social sciences, though, everyone thinks they are."

...can be applied to your comment regarding literal biblical meaning, translation, and interpretation from one person to the next. Even a basic understanding of the Bible and Christianity lends itself automatically to not following it literally word for word, as Christ's new covenant made the old testament covenant no longer necessary. But it is still important that we understand the first to fully comprehend the latter, even though I don't make sacrifices at the tent of meeting and go outside to pick up mana everyday. It's not following it word for word that matters, but believing that word for word it is true and unfaltering.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

I think your quote... "You can be educated in some topics, but not others. I will admit that I am not educated in engineering. When it comes to the social sciences, though, everyone thinks they are."

...can be applied to your comment regarding literal biblical meaning, translation, and interpretation from one person to the next. Even a basic understanding of the Bible and Christianity lends itself automatically to not following it literally word for word, as Christ's new covenant made the old testament covenant no longer necessary. But it is still important that we understand the first to fully comprehend the latter, even though I don't make sacrifices at the tent of meeting and go outside to pick up mana everyday. It's not following it word for word that matters, but believing that word for word it is true and unfaltering.

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We agree, actually, up until the end. Don't you see that "believing that word for word it is true and unfaltering" is difficult when people see the words differently? I think I stated it earlier in this thread, but there was not a word for Homosexuality when the Bible was written. The King James version of the Bible is different than the Hebrew version. In every context of the Bible that I can think of off hand right now that had any relation to Homosexuality, the reference was of promiscuity - Sodom.... Those passages in OUR version of the Bible are relating to promiscuity, not being in a loving relationship.

I agree that promiscuity (straight or gay) is sinful. Can't say that I have not been sinful, but that is my understanding of it.

I think we all can agree that through prayer is how we interpret what the Bible states. Our culture has interpreted it one way, though, and we follow that blindly at times, instead of questioning our Church or religeous leaders.

Guislap is Athiest, so none of these arguments that I am making represent him. I do respect his point of view, though. I am stating things from a Christian's point of view. It is just different than yours. That is why we have 100's of denominations of Christian Churches. They split over interpretation. I don't know who is right in certain cases, so I depend on my guidance from God. It seems that Episcapalians (I know that is spelled wrong) have split due to this very topic that we are discussing. There will be more splits in the future. This is nothing new and it is all due to how we interpret the Bible.

I apprciate your point of view and any that differ from mine. I just don't believe in forcing it on others. Also, when discussing a group of people that ARE discriminated against (as shown in this thread, even), I tend to be more passionate. I will end it there. This could go on forever. I just hope that we end it with a mutual respect of our difference of opinion.

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Originally Posted by Tech77

Our parents and grandparents had a few things wrong in the '50s, but they had a whole bunch of stuff DEAD ON RIGHT, in accordance with the teachings of The Bible.

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FWIW, I agree 100%

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Originally Posted by champion110

How do you know? Seems that they were just as strong minded on some things that were wrong, as those they had right. Add to this that time and culture changes.

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And prophetically these culture changes will get worse and more anti-God and AntiChrist like in the end days ("like in the days of Noah"). So why did you bring it up again? I would have let this dog lay. You can't just up and change the word of God nor the meaning to fit one's own wishes and desires. His word is pretty black and white in the O and N Test.

Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I do not change;

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.

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Originally Posted by champion110

Don't you see that "believing that word for word it is true and unfaltering" is difficult when people see the words differently?
Of course I do, and I agree, but that doesn't negate the point at all.

I think I stated it earlier in this thread, but there was not a word for Homosexuality when the Bible was written. The King James version of the Bible is different than the Hebrew version. In every context of the Bible that I can think of off hand right now that had any relation to Homosexuality, the reference was of promiscuity - Sodom.... Those passages in OUR version of the Bible are relating to promiscuity, not being in a loving relationship.

1 Timothy 1:10. Additionally, there are multiple references that clearly describe the act without terming it. And those certainly are not just related to general promiscuity, but do describe homosexual acts.


I think we all can agree that through prayer is how we interpret what the Bible states. Our culture has interpreted it one way, though, and we follow that blindly at times, instead of questioning our Church or religeous leaders.

I think you may be off on the methods and motives of church leaders...though certainly some, or even many, are certainly subjects of your comment above.

Guislap is Athiest, so none of these arguments that I am making represent him. I do respect his point of view, though. I am stating things from a Christian's point of view. It is just different than yours. That is why we have 100's of denominations of Christian Churches. They split over interpretation. I don't know who is right in certain cases, so I depend on my guidance from God. It seems that Episcapalians (I know that is spelled wrong) have split due to this very topic that we are discussing. There will be more splits in the future. This is nothing new and it is all due to how we interpret the Bible.

Agreed.

I apprciate your point of view and any that differ from mine. I just don't believe in forcing it on others. Also, when discussing a group of people that ARE discriminated against (as shown in this thread, even), I tend to be more passionate. I will end it there. This could go on forever. I just hope that we end it with a mutual respect of our difference of opinion.

Once again, I agree. But there is a difference between providing education, support...whatever...versus promoting it, or promoting tolerance of it. Promoting tolerance or acceptance of it to individuals or groups is no different than promoting intolerance of it. In the spirit of why this thread was started, my problem is that this curriculum was advertised and is being coordinated in such a way that one of the purposes is the promotion of tolerance and acceptance. People tell me I should tolerate it, accept it, and just be ok that people are coordinating an educational curriculum while stating they have an agenda for promoting awareness, tolerance, acceptance, and whatever else? No, i have every right in the world, under God, and under the laws of this country, to be as intolerant as I choose...and have every right to feel good about it if that conclusion is in line with my beliefs, morals, convictions, and education on the subject. I don't have to like it, and I don't have to be ok that others are "pushing" it. But if you have a different opinion, that's cool and I respect it.

And by the way, every group of people, regardless of race, age, sexual orientation, creed, religion, nationality, color, and every other distinguishing factor we can make up, is discriminated against. You could have three PhDs, and a law degree and I'll hire a CNA whom dropped out of high school and has a certificate from Votech for $7.50/hr over you to provide low level patient care, regardless of how badly you want the job...a form of discrimination if you want to get technical.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

And prophetically these culture changes will get worse and more anti-God and AntiChrist like in the end days ("like in the days of Noah"). So why did you bring it up again? I would have let this dog lay. You can't just up and change the word of God nor the meaning to fit one's own wishes and desires. His word is pretty black and white in the O and N Test.

Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I do not change;

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.

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No one is changing the words (except they were changed by the translators of it)......... My point was that interpretations change. Horrible things were done in the past by Christians all because of the way they INTERPRETED the Bible. As culture changes, we change. I could bring up the whole segregation issue again. That is a perfect example of what I am talking about. There are many more examples thoughout history that as times have changed, we have realized they were wrong. Those people thought they were right on every count too. Just like the example above of our Grandparents getting some things wrong. Well, you are not immune to that either.

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I can't reply to all that right now. How do you feel about the King James version of the Bible. Do you take it word for word? Even if there were no words for certain things in the Hebrew language? How about the "Living Bible". Do you not see the interpretation differences in comparing those two Bibles? Why do we have different denominations of Christians? Are the Catholics wrong in their belief of the Bible vs. Baptist vs. Methodist vs. etc..... Those were all splits in the Church because of belief differences as time moved forward.

My Christianity is between me and God, so I really hate keeping this going. Just be careful with any of our interpretations, because they can cause a LOT of harm in many cases. I am not excluding myself in this. However, at the rate of Gay teen suicide, I think preaching that they should change (which is ABSOLUTELY shown to be impossible) is harmful. I am not going to knock your beliefs, though. I may disagree, but I do so respectfully to all of you.

It is funny that the most accepting person on this thread is Guislapp (an Athiest).

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Originally Posted by champion110

I can't reply to all that right now. How do you feel about the King James version of the Bible. Do you take it word for word? Even if there were no words for certain things in the Hebrew language? How about the "Living Bible". Do you not see the interpretation differences in comparing those two Bibles? Why do we have different denominations of Christians? Are the Catholics wrong in their belief of the Bible vs. Baptist vs. Methodist vs. etc..... Those were all splits in the Church because of belief differences as time moved forward.

My Christianity is between me and God, so I really hate keeping this going. Just be careful with any of our interpretations, because they can cause a LOT of harm in many cases. I am not excluding myself in this. However, at the rate of Gay teen suicide, I think preaching that they should change (which is ABSOLUTELY shown to be impossible) is harmful. I am not going to knock your beliefs, though. I may disagree, but I do so respectfully to all of you.

It is funny that the most accepting person on this thread is Guislapp (an Athiest).

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Guislapp is not accepting or unaccepting. In keeping with his belief, Guislapp has said more than once that his interest is in himself. He only interjects here when he senses an opportunity to besmirch the religious beliefs of others (which includes you champ). What's really funny (ironic) is that Guislapp is only a surface ally, while your fellow Christians are only surface opposition.

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Originally Posted by LookingForResults

Guislapp is not accepting or unaccepting. In keeping with his belief, Guislapp has said more than once that his interest is in himself. He only interjects here when he senses an opportunity to besmirch the religious beliefs of others (which includes you champ). What's really funny (ironic) is that Guislapp is only a surface ally, while your fellow Christians are only surface opposition.

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Good point......

Actually, this has nothing to do with religion per se, but how some religious people use religion offensively to marginalize others that are born different.

So much to say on this ridiculous topic but it's just not worth it anymore guys. I'm finished. Enjoy whatever your little heart's desire. "If it feels good do it." :icon_roll:

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We should be getting a statement any day now from Richard Simmons.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTxkxG3DF4k

I know this thread is old, but there was a letter to the editor in the Monroe Rag this morning talking about ULL and asking when Tech was going to add a LBGTQ minor. A cursory search of the boards revealed no others breaking this news, and I figured it doesn't need a separate thread.

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I know this thread is old, but there was a letter to the editor in the Monroe Rag this morning talking about ULL and asking when Tech was going to add a LBGTQ minor. A cursory search of the boards revealed no others breaking this news, and I figured it doesn't need a separate thread.

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Too much duplication in this state's higher ed. Let's allow ULL to monopolize that particular curriculum. I'm perfectly fine with them having the model program for that particular "discipline."

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

I know this thread is old, but there was a letter to the editor in the Monroe Rag this morning talking about ULL and asking when Tech was going to add a LBGTQ minor. A cursory search of the boards revealed no others breaking this news, and I figured it doesn't need a separate thread.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

Too much duplication in this state's higher ed. Let's allow ULL to monopolize that particular curriculum. I'm perfectly fine with them having the model program for that particular "discipline."

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Yes I agree. By all means let ULALA and Lafayette be the LBGTQ representative for the state.

Does laffyette have a Chik Fil A?

Just as ULL adds a minor in Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender studies, their sister school is cutting 8 minors due to budget cuts.

Minors to be cut at ULM due to budget cuts:
- Anthropology
- Geology
- Geography
- Physics
- Theater
- Women's Studies
- Arabic Studies
- Southern Studies

http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/2...fs-cuts-minors

ULL also slashed its research budget to the tune of $7.8 million, completely eliminating several programs, such as PTAC, MEPOL, SBDC, all designed to nurture economic development and aid small businesses.

Now the politicians are getting involved. I doubt that anything will come from this in the short term, but it could change things in the long term. I think the congressman makes a good point (as I mentioned in an earlier post) that this does not do anything to properly prepare college graduates for the workforce.

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.s..._river_default

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Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden

Ain't you the one who claims to be a lesbian trapped in a man's body :icon_razz:

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Dude, he's been claiming to be a lesbian for so long that he's an old dyke now!

Then a more appropriate response would have been - TWSS!

Bump...in honor of today's game.