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Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
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And you would like that to happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
GSA has contacted Biden about beginning transition process. GA and MI are certified and PA will be tonight or tomorrow.
MI had to be certified to begin the process of a challenge. PA certification if it happens won't mean anything until the court challenges are done and may mean nothing after they are done. Same with GA.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
There is nothing to challenge.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
What was Powell’s Hugo Chavez take all about?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
The Smartmatic voting system was developed for Venezuela after Chavez didn't like an election result years ago. A Lou Dobbs video expose on this from 2006 while Dobbs was still at CNN has surfaced. Must be true since Dorsey has panicked and ordered it to be labeled disputed on Twitter. Smartmatic was sold to Sequoia, and Sequoia was sold to (wait for it) Dominion Voting Systems in 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Lou Dobbs, CNN 2006 Concern Dominion Voting Machines Danger To Democracy – Investment Watch (investmentwatchblog.com)
From witnesses present, in Venezeula the system was taken offline to in the middle of the night to "fix" the results as ordered by Chavez. Very similar to the several states (not coincidentally with Dominion machines) that all suspended counting at the same time during the early morning of November 4.
Dominion machines have all kinds of backdoors up to and including the ability to file all ballots scanned as questionable where they require manual review before being included in totals. Exactly why Texas rejected that system three times including twice last year.
Powell's full criminal investigation will take too long to have much impact in the next three weeks as required before the Electoral College is scheduled to meet. But it will likely have the most long-lasting consequences to reform the entire process of how our elections are conducted.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-chec...ent:9740535009Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
You Trumpsters are too easily hoodwinked.
Yes we are just supposed to accept that over 90% of the mail in ballots went for Harris/BidenQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Heck, in some places it was 120%!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Trump told his supporters not to use them.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
he didn’t have to tell his voters not to trust the obviousQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
So! the Dems said, we've used all of ours (and then some), so if Trump's voters aren't going to use theirs, let's use theirs too! So, they did. Thus all the illegal votes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And the Republican governor is in on it, too? Somehow? Hasn't he mostly been a Trump backer in all this nonsense?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
What illegal votes?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
You are right...Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
The over 90% mail in voting for Biden is believable. No way we can ever trust this system again. The left has figured out a way to take over.
He was just trying to make excuses for the azzwhuppin that he knew sleepy Joe was gonna give him.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
90%? I thought he only got around 75% in Pennsylvania.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Nah, you know the truth. For your version to be correct, Trump lost support in the battle ground states. We know that's not true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Trump turned out his supporters, he also turned out even more of those that have seen enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Only if you believe the new way of voting is legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Seriously, what's wrong with providing checks that prove the votes are legit? You are against that right?
To Goosey, the end justifies the means. No amount of cheating, voter fraud was too much to get bad orange man out.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Trump’s team is batting a goose egg in proving the ballots cast were not legit.
They were already proven legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
No, just proven legal based a lack of rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
So. . . what illegal votes?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
All the mail in votes are illegal? Is that what you're saying? Toss them all because you don't think the numbers match up?
If the left figured a way to rig an election, they sure had small goals. You'd think they'd have slipped through that big blue wave that they'd been predicting. Or at least flipped the Senate.
Womp wompQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
If you call a goose egg 0 for 0. The real evidence hasn't been presented yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
True. What are they waiting for if they have something?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
I thought the judge in PA put it pretty succinctly:Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
“The Trump Campaign and the Individual Plaintiffs seek to discard millions of votes legally cast by Pennsylvanians from all corners — from Greene County to Pike County, and everywhere in between. In other words, Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. … One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more.“
That doesn't strike you as suspicious? I mean, they keep going into court rooms, wouldn't you present the evidence while you were in court?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Mail-in votes by the general public that weren't previously exceptions are all illegal in PA since the legislature never approved the new system as required. In fact I'm pretty sure a PA constitutional amendment must be passed in two legislative sessions plus then be approved in a public vote before mail-in voting by everyone could become legal.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
If the mail votes can't be totally segregated out of the totals, the PA legislature will get to deal with it once Alito and the Supremes get the case.
The state and lower-level federal judges they are dealing with mostly are ignoring evidence anyway. They can't be bothered to go through hundreds of sworn affidavits made under penalty of perjury.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Doesn't bother me because it creates a quicker path to Circuit reviews and the Supremes.
They're ignoring the evidence that hasn't been presented, which hasn't been presented because they're ignoring it?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
If you had clear evidence, wouldn't you present it at every level? So you're actually appealing the fact that this awesome evidence wasn't appropriately considered as you try to make your way up through the appeals system? I mean, I'm no lawyer, but for many reasons I don't understand why you would hold evidence back that makes your case.
Hundreds of affidavits aren't evidence? Seems like I've heard that somewhere before, and it was wrong then and is still wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Other evidence is still being developed. Some of the statistical reviews returning "statistically impossible" and "extremely unlikely" labels on some of the inconsistencies can't be ignored.
Makes the framers look even smarter setting inauguration day in March and not January.
You are deeply confused. That case is not on appeal. The only case that the SC could take on appeal related to mail in ballots received after Election Day. Those approximately 10k ballots don’t change the outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Doesn’t matter how many affidavits you submit. It is the lack of substance - actual evidence - in the affidavits that have been submitted that cause the cases to get kicked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Shame no one caught the rule-making error a year ago when it was signed into law (or not, I guess).
I think that's very different from fraud. It's not like those people who voted by mail (and whose votes it's being argued should be taken away) were acting dishonestly. Heck, they were following the election regulations in place at the time. I guess that's what the state will argue (probably successfully).
Then again, I'm certainly no expert on the rule-making procedures in PA. I'm dubious personally, but I guess they'll get their day in court.
I mean, if they presented the hundreds of affidavits and they weren't convincing evidence of sufficient voter fraud to change the final results then what's this?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
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The real evidence hasn't been presented yet.
The federal judge in PA dismissed erroneously without allowing evidence to be presented. Like I said before, it just expedited the appeals process during which the unheard evidence will be brought forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Where do you get this false information?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
So you think he admonished them for their lack of evidence all while prohibiting them from presenting evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Surely you don’t actually believe that. Tucker and Rush seem to disagree with you. Trump himself is reportedly displeased with his clown show legal team.
Oh they will steal the senate as well. Just wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
I get mine from CNN/MSNBC...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Perdue led his opponent by 88,000 votes and Kelly L. plus the other GOP candidates led her opponent by 45,000 votes after the primary. That lead is already gone due to voter "irregularities" and the Dems haven't even started the concerted cheating yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Well, that and the nut-jobs insisting that since Trump didn't win, they shouldn't vote (and preventing them from campaigning on "we lost the White House, put us in to be a check on it").Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
And the stoking of the Democratic base by recounting the votes over and over in an effort to change the results.
I don't think the Dem base needs much stoking. Dead people vote every time they are called on, and all the fake votes will happen regardless of who says what.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
I do think it would help for Trump to visit Georgia on behalf of the two GOP candidates. He can rally the base like no one can. And, yes, the GOP retaining the Senate is more important now than ever! I only know a handful of people who live in Georgia...well, my relatives...who number about 12, and a few friends/acquaintances, and they will vote GOP, but being GOPers they will only vote once, legally.
This should be interesting. Of course CNN/MSNBC won’t cover it.
Pennsylvania State Senate Plans Meeting to Air Complaints of Voter Fraud
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...f-voter-fraud/
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...s-lost/617194/
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The trend is in the right direction, but it is still shockingly little and sadly late. Too many Republicans continue to deny reality. Too many elected Republicans retreat to repeating truisms: The president has the right to challenge election results, he has no obligation to concede while he’s still pursuing these claims, and states have not yet certified their votes. These positions have the virtue of being accurate, but they ignore the president’s more outrageous claims and the real harm he is doing.
Trump has the faith of tens of millions of Americans, and he is encouraging them to believe that we are in the midst of a coup and that living under the rule of the other party would be intolerable. He’s casually declaring official results he dislikes illegitimate.
Iran is thrilled with the apparent results of the election...that tells you all you need to know.
And yes it did violate the state’s constitution. But hater Dems will be hater vote stealing Dems.
Last Update 3 hours ago
Pennsylvania judge halts election certification amid mail-in vote fight
Lawsuit alleges that Pennsylvania's mail-in voting law violated the state's constitution
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pen...n-vote-lawsuit
One of the lawyers working with Giuliani just reported that the democrats mailed out 1.8 million ballots and got 2.5 million votes back. Out of one batch of votes that came in after midnight on Nov. 3, 570,000 went to Biden and 3200 went to Trump. This election is not over by a longshot. Those of you that want to follow the investigation, go to NewsmaxTV. They're doing a good job of reporting on it.
They are lying to you, and you are a sucker for believing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
You need to get ready for a big disappointment. When all the dust settles, Trump wins by a landslide and Biden and the whore can go back to his basement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
How many times do you want to experience Trump’s loss? You are setting yourself up to experience it many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
We can be more respectful. And should be. I promise that even if you disagree with someone politically, it's not harmful to your political position to avoid name-calling, if that's the concern.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
LOL. Liberals are so respectful.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
You just gave yourself away.
If conservatives are better than liberals, they should BE better than liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
If not calling someone a whore is an exclusively a liberal position, I guess I'm liberal. Weird that my voting tends to go the other way, but it's all in how we define terms I guess.
Looks like the various teams have zeroed in on their targets. Twitter is banning everything in sight regarding the new lawsuit filings from Powell and the PA hearings on Wednesday.
At this rate Twitter will have to ban itself by January 20.
Grab her by the pusy! Show that whore what’s up!Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
Gross, sir.
Exactly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
My friend, you are the one that’s always wrong on this forum. And you set yourself up for it so many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Don't tell me you never heard of Kamala and Willie Brown "dating" for two years while he was still married. He got her started in politics by getting her 2 positions in California's government. The definition of a whore is a woman that sells herself for money and that's what she did. After she used Willie Brown to get her started in government and she became the AG, she told him that if he did anything, even jay walking, she would throw his butt in jail. She will do anything she can to grab power. Just look at how she treated Kavanaugh. I'd call her a bitch, but I know my female dog wouldn't like being compared to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
Look at how she did in the democrat primaries. She was so disliked that she only got about 1% of the vote. It's really scarey knowing that she could be one step from being president.
I bet Willie Brown grabbed her wherever he wanted to. She was his whore when she was 29 and he was 60.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
"Heels in the air Harris" is what everyone calls her out there.
But, at least she is not a hypocrite. She advocates for prostitution to be legalized, so that young women would have an easier time following the career path she followed.
Trump lawyer getting threatening phone calls. https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-...=mb-2020-11-27
Trump racking up another big L in Pennsylvania again today. Losing is what he does best!
Thats absolutely wrong and you know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Unfortunately the facts are documented. Now calling her a whore is something else but the terrible relationship has been out there fir a very long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
Some on here hate the military so they will discount their eye witness facts. So much more to come.
Published 14 hours ago
Pa. poll watcher, a Navy vet, alleges missing USB cards, up to 120,000 questionable votes
At a hearing Wednesday, the poll watcher alleged the cards may have been used to add illegal votes to the state's vote count.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pa-...tionable-votes
Would have been super easy to catch that many fake votes in canvassing/auditing.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
The blistering opinion from a panel of judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, all three of whom were nominated by Republican presidents, said that the Trump campaign’s “claims have no merit.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
It's a grift.
Which is bad enough.
But it's also making people crazy.
You have to want to catch them my man. Anyone with half a brain knew the jig was up when the critical states stopped counting votes at midnight with Trump winning all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
How old was Trump’s pregnant wife when Trump was f’n a porn star. Whore? Right...when you’re a star, you can do that, yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
Why would Trump want a worn-out porn star? Harris was screwing Willie Brown for money and power. Just look where it got her. She could be the president and she couldn't even get 1% of the vote in the democrat primaries. Even the democrats don't like her.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
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Pennsylvania Republicans introduce resolution disputing election results. https://www.theepochtimes.com/pennsylvania-republicans-to-introduce-resolution-disputing-election-results_3596434.html?utm_source=morningbrief&a mp;utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2020-11-28
All of the changes are contrary to the Pennsylvania Election Code, which requires mail-in ballots to be received at 8 p.m. on Election Day, mandates that signatures on the mail-in ballots be authenticated, and forbids the counting of defective mail-in ballots.
You had it right the first time. How democratic!
If Pelosi kicks out Biden like she plans, does that mean Biden was the whore's pimp? Remember, Pelosi was trying to figure out how to get rid of Biden if he won before the election.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Republican appointed judges, including one appointed by Trump, said there is no merit to these claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
The GOP is saving their evidence for the SCOTUS to rule on. Why cast pearls before compromised lawyer swine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That isn’t how it works, buddy. Supreme Court, like other courts of appeal, doesn’t rule on evidence that wasn’t in the record below.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Aren’t you a lawyer at times?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
There will easily be existing case law on voting laws (national and states) , fraudulent voting, state constitutions vs. some political hack or governor ruling and elections in general.
The problem for Trump is that he doesn’t have the facts to support a claim. And the Supreme Court isn’t going to be hearing new facts that they didn’t present in the trial court. Both the trial and appeal courts with Republican judges said the case had no merit. You don’t say that as a judge, especially about the person who appointed you to your position, if it is a close call on the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
You should be relieved to know that there was no fraud and Biden won fair and square. All the Republicans overseeing elections said the same thing.
You must be drinking some really good vintage wine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That’s all you got?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
He was either drinking or toking.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
How so?
Is he wrong?
Yes of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
I’ll start with his last paragraph.
“You should be relieved to know that there was no fraud and Biden won fair and square. All the Republicans overseeing elections said the same thing.”
Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Anything to add to ‘And the Supreme Court isn’t going to be hearing new facts that they didn’t present in the trial court.’
I’m just an ol country boy, and honestly don’t know the answer to that. Any insight?
I actually already answered above.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
“There will easily be existing case law on voting laws (national and states) , fraudulent voting, state constitutions vs. some political hack or governor ruling and elections in general.“
No you didn’t. He doesn’t have the facts to state a claim under law for which relief can be granted. All the judges that hear his cases keep telling him this. Republicans running the state elections and even his own Election cybersecurity official (now fired for telling the emperor that he is naked) have universally told him the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Even the Dems now bitching, at least “for show”. Heck, they bitched and screamed for 4 years!!! Putin , China and Iran hate Trump and the hater regressives still bitched.
Published 3 days ago
Iowa Democrats say findings of investigation into botched caucuses coming soon
State party certified the results 23 days after the caucuses
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iow...-investigation
You stated, “And the Supreme Court isn’t going to be hearing new facts that they didn’t present in the trial court.” And that’s a lie as well. There’s plenty of case law, like I stated, which will have been violated or against various state constitutions, that the Trump lawyers will present and then add theirs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Newt the historical scholar is right again!
That said, Rudy Giuliani and his team have been terrible so far. Let us hope he’s saved the best for the SCOTUS.
Newt Gingrich: 2020 Election May Be ‘Biggest Presidential Theft’ Since 1824
Newt Gingrich believes the 2020 election may be the “biggest presidential theft” since 1824 and is urging state legislatures to “demand recounts.”
“The more data comes out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate the more it looks like 2020 may be the biggest Presidential theft since Adams and Clay robbed Andrew Jackson in 1824,” the former House speaker said in a Friday tweet:
On Saturday morning, Gingrich encouraged Republican state legislators to read an analysis from Patrick Basham, founding Director of the Democracy Institute and senior fellow of the Cato Institute. Basham lists ten “peculiarities” which he believes lack “compelling explanations,” including swing states halting their ballot counts on election night and removing observers, statistically abnormal vote counts, and “historically low absentee ballot rejection rates.”
“Basham makes clear the election was almost certainly stolen in 5 states. Every Americanm [sic] should be worried by the theft,” he added:
Every Republican state legislator should read Patrick Basham’s analysis https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the...ply-puzzling/… and demand an oversight committee to review their state’s vote. Basham makes clear the election was almost certainly stolen in 5 states. Every Americanm should be worried by the theft.
3:48 AM · Nov 28, 2020
President Trump and his team have vowed to press on in their fight for kJ election integrity despite the critics. His team outlined their case in a press conference last week, which Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis framed as their “opening statement.” During the presser, Trump’s lawyers — well as Sidney Powell, who is not part of Trump’s formal team — presented highlights in building their respective cases, as Breitbart News detailed. Rudy Giuliani detailed affidavits alleging nefarious behavior and blasted the media for continuing to claim that the campaign has not presented evidence.
“It’s your job to read these things and not falsely report that there’s no evidence. Do you know how many affidavits we have in the Michigan case? Two hundred twenty affidavits,” he said.
“They’re not all public, but eight of them are,” he added.
Trump’s lawyers are expected to participate in a hearing on election integrity with Arizona legislators on Monday, Ellis announced on Friday:
More
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ft-since-1824/
Your whole post is nonsense. What they will argue to the SC, if the SC takes cert, will be the exact same thing they have argued at the trial and appellate level. There will be no new facts and no new arguments. Appeal courts review for errors made by the lower courts, so the argument and facts would need to have been made below to determine if there was an error.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-t...ce=twitter.com
"Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so," federal appellate Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote in an opinion released Friday denying the Trump campaign's challenge of the results in Pennsylvania. "Charges require specific allegations and then proof," said Bibas, whom Trump nominated to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in 2017. "We have neither here."
Judge orders Dominion voting systems in Georgia to be preserved. Possibly for forensic inspection and audit.
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