@LATechSports Announces North Endzone Facility Plan

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Originally Posted by eagle2180

I was at the Maryland Independence Bowl in 1990 with an attendance of 48,000. I was at Tech vs A&M in 2012 with about the same attendance. If you want to consider them as part of your market shouldn’t you be able to fill your home stadium on a regular basis? We don’t, never have.

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No. Attendance is a completely separate issue. It's important for LA Tech and fans like me and you, but not for the AAC and what we're talking about here. The "MARKET" issue that the AAC is pressing has to do with the number of TV sets in any given viewer market. They don't care if Tech sells out all home games or not, as long as they have a large market of TV sets to hopefully pitch to the TV Networks for contract purposes. Conferences like the AAC want to be able to sit down with ESPN or FOX Sports and talk about the high number of potential TV viewers due to the large number of TV sets they have in any given market. And the conference TV contracts are finally negotiated based on the number of TV sets included in the conference footprint.

This is why LA Tech needs the Shreveport-Bossier "TV" Market. By playing a game in Shreveport on a regular basis, it will be almost impossible for the AAC to claim the Shreveport-Bossier market does not belong to LA Tech.

How do you think low attendance schools such as Tulane, Tulsa, SMU --and more recently-- UAB, Rice, and UNC-Charlotte received invites to the AAC? It certainly wasn't because they were filling up the stands at home. Rather, it was because they all have BIG media markets with a lot of TV sets, henceforth a lot of potential TV viewers. And the AAC can exploit that to get a better TV contract the next time they sit down with the networks.

Some of you on this board that are so adamant that if we don't do a home and home with some of the power 5/larger programs at the Joe is unacceptable, need to get a grip. If I'm a Florida State or University X, why in the world would I want to play at the Joe with a max 23K seats where lodging accommodations suck in Ruston and the airline arrangement suck even more...REALLY!

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Originally Posted by Lotsudo

Games where we do a one for one and the game is played in Shreveport because of the venue!

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To be clear here, you're saying that these schools would be willing to play us in a one for one series so long as we played it in Shreveport?

Because they're all just dying to play an away game in Shreveport instead of two games against G5 schools in their own home stadiums?

And we're to do that every year?

I. . . guess I just don't think that's realistic.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

No. Attendance is a completely separate issue. (It's important for LA Tech and fans like me and you, but not for the AAC and what we're talking about here.) The "MARKET" issue that the AAC is pressing has to do with the number of TV sets in any given market. They don't care if Tech sells out all home games, as long as they have a large market of TV sets to hopefully pitch to the TV Networks for contract purposes. Conferences like the AAC want to be able to sit down with ESPN or FOX Sports and talk about the high number of potential TV viewers due to the number of TV sets they have in any given market. And the conference TV contracts are finally negotiated based on the number of TV sets included in the conference footprint.

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What is the demographic of the college football fan? How many TV sets between Ouachita Parish and Harrison County? How many are La Tech fans and fit the demographic of ESPN and Fox Sports?

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Originally Posted by Lotsudo

Some of you on this board that are so adamant that if we don't do a home and home with some of the power 5/larger programs at the Joe is unacceptable, need to get a grip. If I'm a Florida State or University X, why in the world would I want to play at the Joe with a max 23K seats where lodging accommodations suck in Ruston and the airline arrangement suck even more...REALLY!

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Those schools don't want to play us anywhere!

They barely play other big name schools OOC.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

No. Attendance is a completely separate issue. (It's important for LA Tech and fans like me and you, but not for the AAC and what we're talking about here.) The "MARKET" issue that the AAC is pressing has to do with the number of TV sets in any given viewer market. They don't care if Tech sells out all home games, as long as they have a large market of TV sets to hopefully pitch to the TV Networks for contract purposes. Conferences like the AAC want to be able to sit down with ESPN or FOX Sports and talk about the high number of potential TV viewers due to the number of TV sets they have in any given market. And the conference TV contracts are finally negotiated based on the number of TV sets included in the conference footprint.

This is why LA Tech needs the Shreveport-Bossier "TV" Market.

How do you think low attendance schools such as Tulane, Tulsa, SMU --and more recently-- UAB, Rice, and UNC-Charlotte received invites to the AAC? It certainly wan't because they were filling up the stands at home. Rather, it was because they all have BIG media markets with a lot of TV sets, henceforth a lot of potential TV viewers.

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Does an occasional game in Independence Stadium do that for us? Does an annual game in Shreveport do that for us?

Has it ever done so before?

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Originally Posted by inudesu

To be clear here, you're saying that these schools would be willing to play us in a one for one series so long as we played it in Shreveport?

Because they're all just dying to play an away game in Shreveport instead of two games against G5 schools in their own home stadiums?

And we're to do that every year?

I. . . guess I just don't think that's realistic.

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https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...meId/322872348

This was a great game!

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Originally Posted by eagle2180

What is the demographic of the college football fan? How many TV sets between Ouachita Parish and Harrison County? How many are La Tech fans and fit the demographic of ESPN and Fox Sports?

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None of your questions matter. The AAC wants to see the TOTAL NUMBER OF TV SETS in any given market. Obviously, there are many more TV sets in LA Tech's market when the Shreveport-Bossier metro market is included. That's really all you need to know.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

No. Attendance is a completely separate issue. It's important for LA Tech and fans like me and you, but not for the AAC and what we're talking about here. The "MARKET" issue that the AAC is pressing has to do with the number of TV sets in any given viewer market. They don't care if Tech sells out all home games or not, as long as they have a large market of TV sets to hopefully pitch to the TV Networks for contract purposes. Conferences like the AAC want to be able to sit down with ESPN or FOX Sports and talk about the high number of potential TV viewers due to the large number of TV sets they have in any given market. And the conference TV contracts are finally negotiated based on the number of TV sets included in the conference footprint.

This is why LA Tech needs the Shreveport-Bossier "TV" Market. By playing a game in Shreveport on a regular basis, it will be almost impossible for the AAC to claim the Shreveport-Bossier market does not belong to LA Tech.

How do you think low attendance schools such as Tulane, Tulsa, SMU --and more recently-- UAB, Rice, and UNC-Charlotte received invites to the AAC? It certainly wasn't because they were filling up the stands at home. Rather, it was because they all have BIG media markets with a lot of TV sets, henceforth a lot of potential TV viewers. And the AAC can exploit that to get a better TV contract the next time they sit down with the networks.

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If you have a small market like La Tech even if you include Monroe and Shreveport, you have to draw a large percentage of TV’s and butts in the seats. We don’t draw either. I spent Thanksgiving day with 4 Tech alumni in Shreveport and had to inform them of what was going on at La Tech. They all graduated from 1992-1996.

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Originally Posted by Lotsudo

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...meId/322872348

This was a great game!

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Yep. Want to hazard a guess about how many away G5 games they've played since then? We can include the next 4-5 years going forward too.

These schools don't like to play away games. Like, any away games.

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Originally Posted by inudesu

Does an occasional game in Independence Stadium do that for us? Does an annual game in Shreveport do that for us?

Has it ever done so before?

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Remember, I did say we need to play some mens and women's BB games in Shreveport too. So, it's not just one thing. It's a MARKET thing. LA Tech needs more partnerships in the Shreveport-Bossier market. So, to your point, proactively playing football games in Shreveport leads to other engagements as well. For instance, partnering with game sponsors, local city governments, local alumni and fan groups, bowl sponsors, etc... all this leads to better SUPPORT for Tech in a market that we will CLAIM.

UNT has done an excellent job of this in the DFW area. Remember, Denton is not in Dallas or Tarrant (Ft Worth) county. It's 35+ miles from downtown Dallas. But over the last 5 years, UNT has done a great job of partnering with many local organizations in these other metro counties, including partnering with the Dallas Cowboys to sponsor academic and internship opportunities for students, they sponsored the NIT Men's basketball Tournament (in Frisco), they sponsored the CUSA mens and women's basketball tournaments in Frisco, and many more. THIS IS WHAT LA TECH HAS TO DO!

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Originally Posted by eagle2180

If you have a small market like La Tech even if you include Monroe and Shreveport, you have to draw a large percentage of TV’s and butts in the seats. We don’t draw either. I spent Thanksgiving day with 4 Tech alumni in Shreveport and had to inform them of what was going on at La Tech. They all graduated from 1992-1996.

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You are simply proving my point, and proving why Tech needs to start investing in the S-B market. How do you know LA Tech can't draw a large percentage of TV's or butts in seats in Shreveport when we haven't played there in almost 10 years? Do you have some kind of magical powers we all don't know about? All I know is, the last time Tech played a regular season game at Indy Stadium (2012), we drew over 40K fans, and it was TV that had folks sitting on the edge of their seats until the final buzzer.

But again, the AAC doesn't care how many fans you draw to a game, or how many people actually watch your product on TV. The care about the number of TV's IN THE MARKET. That's what they want to see.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

Remember, I did say we need to play some mens and women's BB games in Shreveport too. So, it's not just one thing. It's a MARKET thing. LA Tech needs more partnerships in the Shreveport-Bossier market. So, to your point, proactively playing football games in Shreveport leads to other engagements as well. For instance, partnering with game sponsors, local city governments, local alumni and fan groups, bowl sponsors, etc... all this leads to better SUPPORT for Tech in a market that we will CLAIM.

UNT has done an excellent job of this in the DFW area. Remember, Denton is not in Dallas or Tarrant (Ft Worth) county. It's 35+ miles from downtown Dallas. But over the last 5 years, UNT has done a great job of partnering with many local organizations in these other metro counties, including partnering with the Dallas Cowboys to sponsor academic and internship opportunities for students, they sponsored the NIT Men's basketball Tournament (in Frisco), they sponsored the CUSA mens and women's basketball tournaments in Frisco, and many more. THIS IS WHAT LA TECH HAS TO DO!

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Comparing what UNT has done in the DFW metroplex to what La Tech can do on the I-20 corridor from Vicksburg,MS to Tyler, Tx is laughable. Can you get the Cowboys to sponsor La Tech? It’s closer than the Saint’s. Frisco and surrounding areas like Prosper Rock Hill are booming. Not many new high schools being built on the I-20 corridor in Louisiana.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

What about gaining "Market" do you people NOT understand? The AAC could not have sent a clearer message. By jilting Tech last month they essentially said, "Get a phucking market, or forget about joining the AAC". Comments like the one written above sound like something hillbillies say. GET a CLUE PEOPLE. I'm seeing gripes and complaints about everything that's unimportant, and hardly any of you acknowledge the need to claim the 400K Shreveport-Bossier market as LA Tech's.

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With all the games I attended in Shreveport for all those years in the 80’s and 90’s I don’t see any lasting benefit from them at all. Maybe it was because we played NMSt. Maybe it was because we got blasted by Miami. Did we have a provable surge in long lasting support from Shreveport folks flocking to Ruston after the A&M game? We will never have the market. You will see Tech gear there worn by fans. Media drives the market and they love lsu and the Cowboys.

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Originally Posted by eagle2180

Comparing what UNT has done in the DFW metroplex to what La Tech can do on the I-20 corridor from Vicksburg,MS to Tyler, Tx is laughable. Can you get the Cowboys to sponsor La Tech? It’s closer than the Saint’s. Frisco and surrounding areas like Prosper Rock Hill are booming. Not many new high schools being built on the I-20 corridor in Louisiana.

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Well, with attitudes like yours, I guess LA Tech just needs to roll it up and stay happy in CUSA 5.0, along with Sam Houston St, Jacksonville St and NMSU. You don't appear to be looking for genuine solutions, just poor excuses why you can't get something done. That's what's laughable. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by techman05

With all the games I attended in Shreveport for all those years in the 80’s and 90’s I don’t see any lasting benefit from them at all. Maybe it was because we played NMSt. Maybe it was because we got blasted by Miami. Did we have a provable surge in long lasting support from Shreveport folks flocking to Ruston after the A&M game? We will never have the market. You will see Tech gear there worn by fans. Media drives the market and they love lsu and the Cowboys.

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My God, some of ya'll just sound like a bunch of losers! Stop it! It's not "Lousy Anna Tech", it's Louisiana Tech. And we're going to have to partner with sponsors, advertise and do stuff just like everybody else. LOL!

And, as a matter of fact --coincidentally or not-- LA Tech's football attendance peaked in the years immediately after that last game Tech played in Shreveport against TX A&M. From 2013 thru 2016, Tech's football attendance was stronger than anything we've seen since. Then along came J'Mar, and Tech started losing fans every year.

Man....some of you guys are just sad people. Quit making excuses about EVERYTHING! Whether you like it or not, we can't keep doing what we've been doing and expect to get into the AAC. We have to CHANGE things. ("OMG.....there's that change word, Margaret. I told you we don't want no changes around here in north Lousy Anna")

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

My God, some of ya'll just sound like a bunch of losers! Stop it! It's not "Lousy Anna Tech", it's Louisiana Tech. And we're going to have to partner with sponsors, advertise and do stuff just like everybody else. LOL!

And, as a matter of fact --coincidentally or not-- LA Tech's football attendance peaked in the years immediately after that last game Tech played in Shreveport against TX A&M. From 2013 thru 2016, Tech's football attendance was stronger than anything we've seen since. Then along came J'Mar, and Tech started losing fans every year.

Man....some of you guys are just sad people. Quit making excuses about EVERYTHING! Whether you like it or not, we can't keep doing what we've been doing and expect to get into the AAC. We have to CHANGE things. ("OMG.....there's that change word, Margaret. I told you we don't want no changes around here in north Lousy Anna")

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Excellent post! Someone brought up that A&M game too. We had a great team that year and that was one of the most exciting games I have ever attended. It did help us pick up steam at home, as well. I don't think we have EVER done anything to really promote the games that we had there. We have to have a name opponent and we have to truly market (something we have never been very good at doing). Build some excitement about the game and it will pay dividends for the future. Also, you don't stop after the one game. You keep going with billboards and merchandise in the area. We have never convinced Shreveport/Bossier that we are their team. It is time that changed. Even when we tried, we just half a**ed it.

Anyway, your point is the only point that matters. To paraphrase - AAC cares about your market size, not how many butts are in the seats. UTSA is the best example of that. While they have picked up fans by winning recently, they will never be truly San Antonio's team. San Antonio cares about UT and A&M, not UTSA. It is the size of the city. We can't reach that size of city, but we can reach a LOT more by counting the cities close to us. There is not another FBS team that is even close to Shreveport. I will add that we know Shreveport/Bossier are horrible sports towns, but again - we have not tried very hard and no one else is in the position to try.

I am not opposed to change. I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer. I had a legitimate question. Do we have hard numbers of new season ticket holders and LTAC members who weren’t in the fold before a game like A&M or other, but they were after and still are? If our admin had those numbers and they were of any significance, I would hope they would be fighting for more games in S/BC. I am not in the know enough to know for sure that we did half a** the promo of Shreveport games in the past.

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Originally Posted by techman05

I am not opposed to change. I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer. I had a legitimate question. Do we have hard numbers of new season ticket holders and LTAC members who weren’t in the fold before a game like A&M or other, but they were after and still are? If our admin had those numbers and they were of any significance, I would hope they would be fighting for more games in S/BC. I am not in the know enough to know for sure that we did half a** the promo of Shreveport games in the past.

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I am unsure of the numbers, but I don't know if that is the point because we haven't done what is needed for the promotions after the game. The point is the population base alone (like us or not) is worth counting. Having a game there each year makes it possible for us to claim it. Similar to Denton and Dallas above or UTSA (not many think about their football program in San Antonio).

All the pros and cons of this concept need to realize this: If we don't put an attractive product on the field and in the minds of people, it matters not where we play football. Ruston is Ruston.....it hasn't grown much even at least in the more than half century I have been either a Tech student or alumni. We have had games in Shreveport that entire time. We keep telling ourselves that playing in Shreveport is the answer. The folks that live in an around Shreveport/Bossier have their collective heads so far up lsu's butt that only seismic activity will relieve them.

What needs to happen is more and better marketing....not a market, per se. When we sell Tech correctly and frequently, a decent amount of people in Shreveport/Bossier will start to notice. "Build it and they will come"......not a stadium or arena....build a persona that Tech is worthy of notice. Once that is accomplished, we will begin to chip off some of the lsu stranglehold they have over the entire North Louisiana area. Until that happens, we could play Notre Dame in Shreveport and it will be a one week event and back to "who does the Tigas play next?"

As someone mentioned above, the LSUS fiasco proves what I just said. Tech needs for that to happen before we really make inroads. State politics and pansy-assed north La. politicians are keeping it from happening. Tech needs to take a few lessons from the USL bunch, and attempt to overcome the lsu stranglehold.

Dangit -- yall know how I feel about agreeing with HD, but ... I agree that the occasional game in S'port is a good thing. But with some caveats:

1) Not more than once / year.

2) Needs to be the right team. Either P5 or a high-profile G5 with a nat'l following. (eg. BYU, AFA). Great Shreveport games I remember include vs. Cal, Baylor, TAMU, Miami, OK St.

3) Must market the ever-living spit out of it for no less than 2 months leading up it -- billboards, print, SM, radio, etc.

4) Off-site parking with reliable shuttle service.

5) Do it consistently for no less than 4-5 consective years before making any judgements about it's effectiveness re: "market"

OPTIONAL:

6) Ideally -- this game should be the same weekend every year. So everyone KNOWS that Tech ALWAYS has their big game on THIS particular weekend EVERY autumn.

7) Game needs to have a name. But without the word "classic". And one that highlights SBC / NWLA, not necessarily Tech.

8) We should seriously consider partnering such a game with the State Fair. (I know some folks feel like that represents the bad-old days or bush-league times. But we're not talking about playing NSU here.) I'm thinking combo-tickets, carnival / midway / family atmosphere, and a full day of available activities leading up to evening kickoff.

I do think we need to market ourselves to Shreveport, but only the larger games (like an A&M or Arkansas). Never play a conference game in Shreveport. Skip was good about bringing the team over for a practice during preseason, and I hope Crumbie continues that.

We also need to promote all of our sports in the S/BC. Having a game a year at the Brookshire's Grocery Arena, like LSU, is good. Maybe we can play here every couple of years (I don't want to lose home games at the TAC).

Basketball needs to play exhibition games vs. Centenary & LSUS, maybe even have an exhibition game in Shreveport/Bossier if a sponsor pays (or even the Gold Dome). I remember as a kid, the basketball team practiced at Captain Shreve one year.

If there were a Baseball stadium in Shreveport, I'd love a weekday game over here.

We also need our coaches, players, & AD talking on sports radio & personal interest stories on sports broadcasts.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

Dangit -- yall know how I feel about agreeing with HD, but ... I agree that the occasional game in S'port is a good thing. But with some caveats:

1) Not more than once / year.

2) Needs to be the right team. Either P5 or a high-profile G5 with a nat'l following. (eg. BYU, AFA). Great Shreveport games I remember include vs. Cal, Baylor, TAMU, Miami, OK St.

3) Must market the ever-living spit out of it for no less than 2 months leading up it -- billboards, print, SM, radio, etc.

4) Off-site parking with reliable shuttle service.

5) Do it consistently for no less than 4-5 consective years before making any judgements about it's effectiveness re: "market"

OPTIONAL:

6) Ideally -- this game should be the same weekend every year. So everyone KNOWS that Tech ALWAYS has their big game on THIS particular weekend EVERY autumn.

7) Game needs to have a name. But without the word "classic". And one that highlights SBC / NWLA, not necessarily Tech.

8) We should seriously consider partnering such a game with the State Fair. (I know some folks feel like that represents the bad-old days or bush-league times. But we're not talking about playing NSU here.) I'm thinking combo-tickets, carnival / midway / family atmosphere, and a full day of available activities leading up to evening kickoff.

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Exactly!

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Originally Posted by Champ967

Dangit -- yall know how I feel about agreeing with HD, but ... I agree that the occasional game in S'port is a good thing. But with some caveats:

1) Not more than once / year.

2) Needs to be the right team. Either P5 or a high-profile G5 with a nat'l following. (eg. BYU, AFA). Great Shreveport games I remember include vs. Cal, Baylor, TAMU, Miami, OK St.

3) Must market the ever-living spit out of it for no less than 2 months leading up it -- billboards, print, SM, radio, etc.

4) Off-site parking with reliable shuttle service.

5) Do it consistently for no less than 4-5 consective years before making any judgements about it's effectiveness re: "market"

OPTIONAL:

6) Ideally -- this game should be the same weekend every year. So everyone KNOWS that Tech ALWAYS has their big game on THIS particular weekend EVERY autumn.

7) Game needs to have a name. But without the word "classic". And one that highlights SBC / NWLA, not necessarily Tech.

8) We should seriously consider partnering such a game with the State Fair. (I know some folks feel like that represents the bad-old days or bush-league times. But we're not talking about playing NSU here.) I'm thinking combo-tickets, carnival / midway / family atmosphere, and a full day of available activities leading up to evening kickoff.

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You've summed up my sentiments exactly. The only thing I'd add is that they have to market this to students as well. Advertise and offer a bus service to and from campus. Make it free for students or if it costs money for passengers, offer a Tech t-shirt included in the price. If I were a student, I would love to take a bus, spend all day at the fair, see Tech play Texas A&M for example and then ride back to campus and party.

If Texas and Oklahoma can play at the Texas State Fair, there's no reason we can't play at the Louisiana State Fair. We just need to make sure that the opponent is a P5 opponent that will bring many fans (So no Wake Forest or Kansas). I am fine with service academies but I honestly don't think they bring a big crowd so I only see them as a last resort. Definitely no G5 programs. Those games should be played at the Joe.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

Dangit -- yall know how I feel about agreeing with HD, but ... I agree that the occasional game in S'port is a good thing. But with some caveats:

1) Not more than once / year.

2) Needs to be the right team. Either P5 or a high-profile G5 with a nat'l following. (eg. BYU, AFA). Great Shreveport games I remember include vs. Cal, Baylor, TAMU, Miami, OK St.

3) Must market the ever-living spit out of it for no less than 2 months leading up it -- billboards, print, SM, radio, etc.

4) Off-site parking with reliable shuttle service.

5) Do it consistently for no less than 4-5 consective years before making any judgements about it's effectiveness re: "market"

OPTIONAL:

6) Ideally -- this game should be the same weekend every year. So everyone KNOWS that Tech ALWAYS has their big game on THIS particular weekend EVERY autumn.

7) Game needs to have a name. But without the word "classic". And one that highlights SBC / NWLA, not necessarily Tech.

8) We should seriously consider partnering such a game with the State Fair. (I know some folks feel like that represents the bad-old days or bush-league times. But we're not talking about playing NSU here.) I'm thinking combo-tickets, carnival / midway / family atmosphere, and a full day of available activities leading up to evening kickoff.

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I'm officially in shock. :shocked2: I agree with Champ967, 100% on this subject. Good post.

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Originally Posted by Dawgonit

We just need to make sure that the opponent is a P5 opponent that will bring many fans (So no Wake Forest or Kansas).

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P5 opponents that will bring many fans don't play many road games at G5 teams (or other P5 teams for that matter).

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Originally Posted by Lotsudo

Some of you on this board that are so adamant that if we don't do a home and home with some of the power 5/larger programs at the Joe is unacceptable, need to get a grip. If I'm a Florida State or University X, why in the world would I want to play at the Joe with a max 23K seats where lodging accommodations suck in Ruston and the airline arrangement suck even more...REALLY!

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Lodging accommodations don’t suck anymore. Just call earlier to get a room. Visiting teams have been staying at the new Marriott Courtyard.

Many of you guys need to view playing games in Shreveport as a way to market and generate interest in LA Tech sports. After all, Shreveport is home of the largest LA Tech alumni base in the world. Shreveport-Bossier is the low hanging fruit in LA Tech's footprint.

- Just imagine the 30 to 50 yr old LA Tech alumni living in Shreveport and coming to a Tech football game at Indy Stadium for the first time in years. If he has a GREAT experience, he's likely going to want to pack up the wife and kids and drive to Ruston to see more games, at least occasionally. That's how you build a fan base.

- LA Tech should already be marketing to that S-B area anyway, but we really don't (with very few exceptions).

We need to take over/acquire LSUS or ULM. Period! Heck go for both while the US and LA economy sucks and should demand a restructuring by taxpayers of this state.
This is a job for LG and any Tech lover with financial and/or political stroke in Shreveport and BR.
We need to start the hard work process again and asap!

In the unlilkely event Tech were to ever subsume LSUS, I'd advocate for continuing their men's soccer program and allowing that one team to keep the "Pilots" name.

Our coaches also need to hold camps in the SBC in addition to their regular camps in Ruston. I would love for my son to have gone to a basketball camp in the summer, but we couldn't drive to Ruston daily for a week.

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Originally Posted by Champ967

In the unlilkely event Tech were to ever subsume LSUS, I'd advocate for continuing their men's soccer program and allowing that one team to keep the "Pilots" name.

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That would be cool.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

We need to take over/acquire LSUS or ULM. Period! Heck go for both while the US and LA economy sucks and should demand a restructuring by taxpayers of this state.
This is a job for LG and any Tech lover with financial and/or political stroke in Shreveport and BR.
We need to start the hard work process again and asap!

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All the talk of LA Tech subsuming LSUS or acquiring ULM needs to be squelched for now. That's all BS. We've already seen that neither is going to happen in the near future. Right now, I'd like to see LA Tech simply focus on winning football and basketball championships, and position ourselves for an invitation to a much better conference.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

All the talk of LA Tech subsuming LSUS or acquiring ULM needs to be squelched for now. That's all BS. We've already seen that neither is going to happen in the near future. Right now, I'd like to see LA Tech simply focus on winning football and basketball championships, and position ourselves for an invitation to a much better conference.

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This is why I stated for DrLG and the Tech financial and power/political stroke types to start the work and process. This doesn’t involve the athletic department. Dang HD, do you quit when turned down or fail at something? I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

This is why I stated for DrLG and the Tech financial and power/political stroke types to start the work and process. This doesn’t involve the athletic department. Dang HD, do you quit when turned down or fail at something? I doubt it.

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No, but I clean up my act first, and get my own house in order before venturing into the "pie in the sky" strategic stuff. If LSUS and ULM can't help us win football or basketball championships and get us into a better conference, then I'm not really interested in them anyway. Those are really long term goals.

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Originally Posted by inudesu

P5 opponents that will bring many fans don't play many road games at G5 teams (or other P5 teams for that matter).

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So obviously it's not easy to get them to G5 stadiums but it does happen. We have had Mississippi State twice at the Joe. Tulane was going to host Oklahoma before the hurricane this year and has multiple home P5 opponents in the future. Obviously going to New Orleans is a desirable trip so it's not exactly apples to apples. What makes this easier than getting a team to the Joe is that this is a bigger neutral venue. We've had OKST, Miami, and Texas A&M play in Shreveport against us. I don't see why we couldn't get some more regional P5s like Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Arkansas, Missouri, Ole Miss, Miss St...etc. It would be once a year. Shreveport could help financially incentivize teams to come too. Tens of thousands fans coming to Shreveport brings lots of money to the city.

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Dangit -- yall know how I feel about agreeing with HD, but ... I agree that the occasional game in S'port is a good thing. But with some caveats:

1) Not more than once / year.

2) Needs to be the right team. Either P5 or a high-profile G5 with a nat'l following. (eg. BYU, AFA). Great Shreveport games I remember include vs. Cal, Baylor, TAMU, Miami, OK St.

3) Must market the ever-living spit out of it for no less than 2 months leading up it -- billboards, print, SM, radio, etc.

4) Off-site parking with reliable shuttle service.

5) Do it consistently for no less than 4-5 consective years before making any judgements about it's effectiveness re: "market"

OPTIONAL:

6) Ideally -- this game should be the same weekend every year. So everyone KNOWS that Tech ALWAYS has their big game on THIS particular weekend EVERY autumn.

7) Game needs to have a name. But without the word "classic". And one that highlights SBC / NWLA, not necessarily Tech.

8) We should seriously consider partnering such a game with the State Fair. (I know some folks feel like that represents the bad-old days or bush-league times. But we're not talking about playing NSU here.) I'm thinking combo-tickets, carnival / midway / family atmosphere, and a full day of available activities leading up to evening kickoff.

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Perfect...including the State Fair part. That's a win/win for Tech and SBC.

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Our coaches also need to hold camps in the SBC in addition to their regular camps in Ruston. I would love for my son to have gone to a basketball camp in the summer, but we couldn't drive to Ruston daily for a week.

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This x1000000. Same for baseball and football.

I'm interested in the numbers that the Tech-LSU game at The Bag in Bossier will pull...

I'll be highly surprised if it's over 8 or 9 thousand - highly

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Well, with attitudes like yours, I guess LA Tech just needs to roll it up and stay happy in CUSA 5.0, along with Sam Houston St, Jacksonville St and NMSU. You don't appear to be looking for genuine solutions, just poor excuses why you can't get something done. That's what's laughable. :laugh:

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No, I think staying put is stupid. I’m just expressing a different view point. La Tech has tried to get the S’port market for years…..hasn’t happened to date. Why do you attend and support La Tech athletics? What years did you attend? La Tech has at least a 10-15 year gap of alumni that don’t have much interest in their alma mater. Why is that? You have to make lifelong fans out of current students. It wouldn’t hurt to entice the kids of alumni with some fun and excitement on game day. La Tech’s market presents some challenges. There are no easy fixes. Playing games in S’port hasn’t been a huge long term boost historically. I’d bet if La Tech could be near capacity attendance at home games and had an above average athletic budget we wouldn’t be left out in conference realignments.

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No, I think staying put is stupid. I’m just expressing a different view point. La Tech has tried to get the S’port market for years…..hasn’t happened to date. Why do you attend and support La Tech athletics? What years did you attend? La Tech has at least a 10-15 year gap of alumni that don’t have much interest in their alma mater. Why is that? You have to make lifelong fans out of current students. It wouldn’t hurt to entice the kids of alumni with some fun and excitement on game day. La Tech’s market presents some challenges. There are no easy fixes. Playing games in S’port hasn’t been a huge long term boost historically. I’d bet if La Tech could be near capacity attendance at home games and had an above average athletic budget we wouldn’t be left out in conference realignments.

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Amen! The problem is at the student level. Get them enthused and the rest will eventually work out. Simplistic, I know, but that is the nucleus, IMO.

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I'm interested in the numbers that the Tech-LSU game at The Bag in Bossier will pull...

I'll be highly surprised if it's over 8 or 9 thousand - highly

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Especially being in conflict with the Independence Bowl that starts at 2:30 when the basketball game tipoff locked in at 6:00 for TV.

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Lodging accommodations don’t suck anymore. Just call earlier to get a room. Visiting teams have been staying at the new Marriott Courtyard.

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Please don't go there because they give visiting teams discounts but NOT for individuals! Yeah the Marriot Courtyard still owes me money for cancelled rooms for my daughter's wedding and a game that we could not make...and the cancellations were made 2-weeks before the event! Moreover, the Ruston Hampton Inn's franchise owner must think his property is an Embassy Suites because even Hilton cooperate can't understand why their prices are so high!

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P5 opponents that will bring many fans don't play many road games at G5 teams (or other P5 teams for that matter).

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You're staring to sound like a damn recording! Yes I understand what your saying but if we can convince a G5 to do a home and home in a venue whereby both parties can make some money in ticket attendance, Shreveport could be that venue. Ruston just does not have the logistics to do it!

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You're staring to sound like a damn recording! Yes I understand what your saying but if we can convince a G5 to do a home and home in a venue whereby both parties can make some money in ticket attendance, Shreveport could be that venue. Ruston just does not have the logistics to do it!

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Tech AD Eric Wood should start working on those kind of games right now:

- Sonny Dykes moving to TCU should make it much easier for Tech to schedule a home and home with the Horned Frogs.

- Sonny Cumbie is so popular in Lubbock we just night be able to get a home and home with TX Tech too.

- Eric Wood came to Tech from new Big XII member UCF. Hey, how about a home/home Eric?

- Tech officials used to have a lot of connections at the University of Houston. Let's start playing 'em again.

Prioritizing road games in the state of Texas at Baylor, SMU, TCU, TX Tech and Houston should prove very valuable to LA Tech's recruiting in Texas. With only 8 conference mates (9 total members) in the new CUSA 4.0, we should have room to work some of these teams into our schedule.

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You're staring to sound like a damn recording! Yes I understand what your saying but if we can convince a G5 to do a home and home in a venue whereby both parties can make some money in ticket attendance, Shreveport could be that venue. Ruston just does not have the logistics to do it!

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I am not totally disagreeing with you, but I don't really get the "logistics" issue. Monroe and Shreveport both have conference hotels and are a quicker drive to Ruston than across town in Dallas, Houston, or any major city. The airport in Shreveport is fine and the ride to Ruston is much much easier (and faster) than going anywhere in a major city.

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I’d bet if La Tech could be near capacity attendance at home games and had an above average athletic budget we wouldn’t be left out in conference realignments.

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I'd bet along with you on this one. All the "stuff" we've accumulated certainly didn't help with that did it?

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Tech AD Eric Wood should start working on those kind of games right now:

- Sonny Dykes moving to TCU should make it much easier for Tech to schedule a home and home with the Horned Frogs.

- Sonny Cumbie is so popular in Lubbock we just night be able to get a home and home with TX Tech too.

- Eric Wood came to Tech from new Big XII member UCF. Hey, how about a home/home Eric?

- Tech officials used to have a lot of connections at the University of Houston. Let's start playing 'em again.

Prioritizing road games in the state of Texas at Baylor, SMU, TCU, TX Tech and Houston should prove very valuable to LA Tech's recruiting in Texas. With only 8 conference mates (9 total members) in the new CUSA 4.0, we should have room to work some of these teams into our schedule.

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I agree that the above teams might be workable.

We don't have a chance with ANY SEC (especially Arkansas) team other than Miss State an we've seen that fail two times already in Ruston.

As I was driving through the area the other day, I drove by BGA or whatever they call it now, and remembered about 20 years ago having a meeting there to discuss thoughts on games in Shreveport. Many here will remember that day.

Stadiums being filled isnt what got any of the other schools an invite.

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Exactly! TV watchers didn't either. It was all about where they were located.

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Stadiums being filled isnt what got any of the other schools an invite.

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You're correct. For the AAC, NONE of them are known to fill their stadiums. I think what is being suggested here is, what they had that we DON'T (being physically located in a major metro area) is beyond our control. BUT...We need to control what we can control...and that is fan SUPPORT ... both physically in the stands, and financially in terms of giving.

Taking a GOOD PRODUCT to where our alumni are located is a step in that direction. "Good Product" being more than just exciting football...it's making sure the little details are also on point. Tailgating being PROMOTED and ENCOURAGED, not running out of concessions, smooth ticketing process, all that stuff...

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Tech AD Eric Wood should start working on those kind of games right now:

- Sonny Dykes moving to TCU should make it much easier for Tech to schedule a home and home with the Horned Frogs.

- Sonny Cumbie is so popular in Lubbock we just night be able to get a home and home with TX Tech too.

- Eric Wood came to Tech from new Big XII member UCF. Hey, how about a home/home Eric?

- Tech officials used to have a lot of connections at the University of Houston. Let's start playing 'em again.

Prioritizing road games in the state of Texas at Baylor, SMU, TCU, TX Tech and Houston should prove very valuable to LA Tech's recruiting in Texas. With only 8 conference mates (9 total members) in the new CUSA 4.0, we should have room to work some of these teams into our schedule.

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The other thing that might help, would be that with the Big 12 going back to actually having 12 teams maybe they return to 8 conference games, which would open an OOC game for each of them.

A 9 game schedule would probably work better for the new giant SEC to run pods of some sort, but those schools really like having 4 OOC games (with 3-4 being home games) every year. So there will likely be a fight between the coaches/schools and the SEC office/tv partners about sticking with 8 or not. I doubt they're any more likely to travel even if they stick with 8 (just to keep sounding like a recording) but it's a heck of a lot more likely if they're working with 4 OOC games than if they're only doing 3.

I think that within 24 to 26 months you will see the formal break away of the main 48-64 power schools to form their own alliance complete with playoffs and national championship - first it will be only football but with in a decade it will include basketball and baseball also -

This may even come with the understanding that they will only schedule each other

It's coming, it's not if but a matter of when

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I think that within 24 to 26 months you will see the formal break away of the main 48-64 power schools to form their own alliance complete with playoffs and national championship - first it will be only football but with in a decade it will include basketball and baseball also -

This may even come with the understanding that they will only schedule each other

It's coming, it's not if but a matter of when

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Yes.

Talking about this thread's original topic. Is there anyway that we can stop this abomination from occupying the north endzone and preventing us from bowling it in?

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I think that within 24 to 26 months you will see the formal break away of the main 48-64 power schools to form their own alliance complete with playoffs and national championship - first it will be only football but with in a decade it will include basketball and baseball also -

This may even come with the understanding that they will only schedule each other

It's coming, it's not if but a matter of when

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Josh Parrott, who writes for Blue Ribbon College Basketball Yearbook, was on Fox's afternoon drive show in Ruston last week.

He was asked about the Big East and what type of impact the P5 media money ($50 to $90 million per school per year) would have on the Big East 5 years from now. (Big East TV deal pays each school $5 million per year).

He said that in 5 years there simply won't be a Division I the way we now know it. The P5 would break away and may or may not take the Big East with them.

Pretty sobering.

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Talking about this thread's original topic. Is there anyway that we can stop this abomination from occupying the north endzone and preventing us from bowling it in?

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Not an abomination IMO. May not be exactly what I would want but it could be worse like leaving it as is.

Don't know of any recent engineering studies, but that ones I was made aware of in the late 70's said bowling in the north end was not an option because of the underground creek.

I'm a freeking idiot, but I reserve the right to say stupid shit and will say that every chance I get.

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I'm a freeking idiot, but I reserve the right to say stupid shit and will say that every chance I get.

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Believe me when I say I understand...I've chewed on my foot several times!

Just ask my wife!~

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Stadiums being filled isnt what got any of the other schools an invite.

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Well, when your choices are between an empty stadium located in a large tv market vs an empty stadium in a small tv market. It’s not a hard decision. Maybe if the small tv market school had a full stadium and a passionate fan base… Yea, I dreaming and speaking in hypotheticals.

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I am not totally disagreeing with you, but I don't really get the "logistics" issue. Monroe and Shreveport both have conference hotels and are a quicker drive to Ruston than across town in Dallas, Houston, or any major city. The airport in Shreveport is fine and the ride to Ruston is much much easier (and faster) than going anywhere in a major city.

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I agree with you and the I understand that but, you have to understand that there are a lot of moving parts and pieces that a visiting team must deal with when going to another venue that costs a lot of money. For football they are moving 100 plus peeps and equipment associated with that to include the lodging arrangements and transportation of those et al to and from the Joe. The AAC construct was that the program MUST be in a major metropolitan area and I’m sure for that reason is why Tech was not included in that expansion even though the airports in Shreveport and Monroe are less than an hour’s drive…but, I’m assuming that!

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I agree with you and the I understand that but, you have to understand that there are a lot of moving parts and pieces that a visiting team must deal with when going to another venue that costs a lot of money. For football they are moving 100 plus peeps and equipment associated with that to include the lodging arrangements and transportation of those et al to and from the Joe. The AAC construct was that the program MUST be in a major metropolitan area and I’m sure for that reason is why Tech was not included in that expansion even though the airports in Shreveport and Monroe are less than an hour’s drive…but, I’m assuming that!

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No, you are just making excuses of why La Tech got left out.

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No, you are just making excuses of why La Tech got left out.

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No, you are just making excuses of why La Tech got left out.

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Not only that but the drive through Shreveport and Bossier City on I-20 SUCKs! If you have a kidney or gall stone, that drive will definitely shack that mofo loose!

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Not only that but the drive through Shreveport and Bossier City on I-20 SUCKs! If you have a kidney or gall stone, that drive will definitely shack that mofo loose!

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You'll probably pass that stone at the Sibley or Minden exit!

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You'll probably pass that stone at the Sibley or Minden exit!

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Or just drive over the cooktown bridge over I-20. You can skip the chiropractor after crossing that sucker.

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Not only that but the drive through Shreveport and Bossier City on I-20 SUCKs! If you have a kidney or gall stone, that drive will definitely shack that mofo loose!

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Take the 220 bypass. It’s like a minute longer and much smoother.

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You'll probably pass that stone at the Sibley or Minden exit!

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You just need to make a pit stop at Hamburger Happiness in Dixie Inn. The original owners kids were Tech alumni, may still be. I haven’t seen them in over 20 years.

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You just need to make a pit stop at Hamburger Happiness in Dixie Inn. The original owners kids were Tech alumni, may still be. I haven’t seen them in over 20 years.

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Hell, if the Hoffosses still own it La Tech should reach out to them about cost sharing some billboard space on I 20. Burgers, Southern Maid Donuts and La Tech could be a winning combo.

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Not an abomination IMO. May not be exactly what I would want but it could be worse like leaving it as is.

Don't know of any recent engineering studies, but that ones I was made aware of in the late 70's said bowling in the north end was not an option because of the underground creek.

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If they can put a building there, they can build a bridge. I don't hate the new plans (it matches the other end zone). I just wish they would put a bridge on each side with a way to cross over and make that bridge wide enough for a beer garden that will hold students that want to hang out up there. Seems pretty simple to make both sides of the building into a platform (looks like there is enough space in the plan already) with steps down to the stands on both sides.

Oh, and CLOSE IN THE UNDERBELLY of the stadium! That would make a HUGE difference! They did a fairly good job on the press box side - need it on the other side.

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Not only that but the drive through Shreveport and Bossier City on I-20 SUCKs! If you have a kidney or gall stone, that drive will definitely shack that mofo loose!

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Seriously? There is no comparison at all with driving from Shreveport to Ruston and sitting in Baton Rouge or Dallas traffic. It is a very simple drive. The mileage maybe more, but the time to get there could easily be less than those that sit in traffic. The drive from Shreveport may make you feel better as an excuse, but it is certainly not one.

220 Loop is much better than the wagon trail built in the late 50s

I20 through Bossier is the worst stretch of "road" I've ever driven on. You can find smoother driving on logging roads. Good news is they're supposed to start rebuilding the whole thing next year.

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I20 through Bossier is the worst stretch of "road" I've ever driven on. You can find smoother driving on logging roads. Good news is they're supposed to start rebuilding the whole thing next year.

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Rebuilding or resurfacing?

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Rebuilding or resurfacing?

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Reconstruct DOTD: Bids out Wednesday for $82.5 million project to repair I-20 in Bossier, sections of Shreveport | ArkLaTexHomepage

Y'all really removed the post I made about someone editing my post? Shoot, I only have a bad reputation on here because I liked Skip. Y'all wonder why young fans aren't as involved on here.

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Y'all really removed the post I made about someone editing my post? Shoot, I only have a bad reputation on here because I liked Skip. Y'all wonder why young fans aren't as involved on here.

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No, not really. I figure young or old, if a person (fan) gets bent out of shape because others disagree with him, criticize his opinions, or otherwise "be mean" (boo hoo), and that keeps them away, well then, they ain't much of a fan...or a man.

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No, not really. I figure young or old, if a person (fan) gets bent out of shape because others disagree with him, criticize his opinions, or otherwise "be mean" (boo hoo), and that keeps them away, well then, they ain't much of a fan...or a man.

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You don't see anything wrong with editing users posts on forum with no note to say that is was edited? I mean there are some real issues with that. Personally I'm fine with people disagreeing with me and I know posting positive opinions about Skip and Guice on here is basically just ouring beef stock on my self before going into the lion's den. I do however fully object to the editing of any users post without a note saying that it was edited.

That's an ADMIN matter...

Well people should be aware that admins are acting in bad faith on this board.

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Well people should be aware that admins are acting in bad faith on this board.

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Instead of calling out admins, you are the one who needs to be called out. Under 50 posts with max displayed negative reputation is an almost impossible feat to achieve, but you have done it.

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Well people should be aware that admins are acting in bad faith on this board.

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They own it.

This board isnt a democracy. It's a private club. If you dont like it, ask for your money back.

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Instead of calling out admins, you are the one who needs to be called out. Under 50 posts with max displayed negative reputation is an almost impossible feat to achieve, but you have done it.

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With his stance on Holtz vs others on this board, its not that hard to see how he could achieve it.

If this is true, though, changing people’s comments is not a very welcoming trait to see in site like this.

I know plenty young Tech alumni that make fun of this website for various reasons. It may just be a fan site, but if you want it to grow you have to run it professionally.

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If this is true, though, changing people’s comments is not a very welcoming trait to see in site like this.

I know plenty young Tech alumni that make fun of this website for various reasons. It may just be a fan site, but if you want it to grow you have to run it professionally.

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Yeah, I’m not cool with folks editing posts. If it’s a private club where people’s opinions are edited well I may find a new “club”.

What’s was the opinion worth censoring?

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Yeah, I’m not cool with folks editing posts. If it’s a private club where people’s opinions are edited well I may find a new “club”.

What’s was the opinion worth censoring?

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All I said was that with fencing the north end zone plaza area could be used to keep people in the stadium while also allowing them to walk to both sides of the stadium. Wasn’t even anything about Holtz or anything. It’d be great for young fans if one of the few places to talk football online wasn’t so hateful.

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With his stance on Holtz vs others on this board, its not that hard to see how he could achieve it.

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Yeah my post history doesn’t really match my reputation score. I’d understand it if I was trolling but I’m not. I hope the Cumbie hire works out, but i also don’t think Skip was a terrible coach who deserved to be fired

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Yeah my post history doesn’t really match my reputation score. I’d understand it if I was trolling but I’m not. I hope the Cumbie hire works out, but i also don’t think Skip was a terrible coach who deserved to be fired

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Depends on what your standards are. If you’re satisfied with mediocrity or less and letting teams that were dumpster fires a few years ago pass you by, we’ll then, Holtz is your man.

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Depends on what your standards are. If you’re satisfied with mediocrity or less and letting teams that were dumpster fires a few years ago pass you by, we’ll then, Holtz is your man.

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You didn’t mention teams which did not and never had programs until just a few years ago passing us as well

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Yeah the underground creek explains alot of how that endzone has been used over the years. What they could do is extend the gating in the north endzone plaza to let people in the stadium walk around to the other side of the stadium without leaving the "facility." You could also maybe add additional vendor stations and restrooms behind the new building in the plaza

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It seems pretty benign. Why was it edited?

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It wasn't...

The original is still there

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The original is still there

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OK....I misunderstood. Thanks

If they really want to build something that will help, create a building in that space as a walk through area that sells beer!

Every single school sans Tech does this.

You sell an area of the field to the athletic foundation, they sell “memberships” for $20 which gets you a wristband and 2 beers (any more you have to pay for). Give it a deck area.

Call it the north end zone club.

That area, the building, the Jumbotrons, the athletic advancement, the indoor practice field, and many many other things are paid for in a few years.

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Wrong post. I shared the same thoughts earlier in the thread but the one I was referring to was edited to say this:

“ I'm a freeking idiot, but I reserve the right to say stupid shit and will say that every chance I get.”

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Yeah my post history doesn’t really match my reputation score. I’d understand it if I was trolling but I’m not. I hope the Cumbie hire works out, but i also don’t think Skip was a terrible coach who deserved to be fired

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Well, I just gave you some red reputation. Sorry, but IN MY OPINION, anybody that can't see how Skip Holtz has damaged this school's football program with terrible coaching and too many foolish late game losses, well that person is a certified idiot. That would be YOU, based upon your post above.

And I think this is the first time I've dinged you with bad rep. But damn boy, all you have to do is look at the 2K crowds we have today in football to know you're just wrong. And I have a right to say so. ;)

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By the way, I actually DO AGREE with you about moderators changing your posts. It shouldn't EVER happen. My avatar still says "Hunter Lees Hero" today even though Hunter Lee graduated 7 years ago. But the BB&B moderators --who put it in there in the first place, refuse to remove it, and I can't either. Specifically, I approached DwayneFromMinden several times about correcting this avatar years ago. But he --and the others-- simply refused to change it. I don't know, I guess the moderators thought it was funny or something, blah, blah, blah... I mean, we're not dealing with geniuses here. So, here I sit, 7 years after the kid graduated, with that stupid avatar message I still can't remove. Such is life.

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Well, I just gave you some red reputation. Sorry, but IN MY OPINION, anybody that can't see how Skip Holtz has damaged this school's football program with terrible coaching and too many foolish late game losses, well that person is a certified idiot. That would be YOU, based upon your post above.

And I think this is the first time I've dinged you with bad rep. But damn boy, all you have to do is look at the 2K crowds we have today in football to know you're just wrong. And I have a right to say so. ;)

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By the way, I actually DO AGREE with you about moderators changing your posts. It shouldn't EVER happen. My avatar still says "Hunter Lees Hero" today even though Hunter Lee graduated 7 years ago. But the BB&B moderators --who put it in there in the first place, refuse to remove it, and I can't either. Specifically, I approached DwayneFromMinden several times about correcting this avatar years ago. But he --and the others-- simply refused to change it. I don't know, I guess the moderators thought it was funny or something, blah, blah, blah... I mean, we're not dealing with geniuses here. So, here I sit, 7 years after the kid graduated, with that stupid avatar message I still can't remove. Such is life.

HD

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How was the dinner at Port-o-Prince with DFM?

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Yeah my post history doesn’t really match my reputation score. I’d understand it if I was trolling but I’m not. I hope the Cumbie hire works out, but i also don’t think Skip was a terrible coach who deserved to be fired

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A 6-14 record over any 20-game stretch is deserving of getting ANY coach fired. And 4-11 in the 15 games after our new AD got settled in Ruston made it a no-brainer for him to pull the trigger.

And if Skippy really didn't see it coming, that's just more proof that he needed to go. We don't need a coach who is that clueless.

And if he did see it coming, acting won't be his next career.