Re: Cumbie's Time is Over! It's time to Find a New Direction!
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PawDawg
The JMar fiasco did it for me when Holtz allowed him to keep smoking weed knowing he could cost the team a conference championship. JMar was a pure turd and Holtz let him do whatever he wanted. I blame Holtz for that and another before when 3 or 4 key players flunked out prior to the championship game. Holtz got his bonuses and the fans got a low tier bowl game.
This could have been the moment that we finally got over the hump and win the conference. We had lost only against Texas and were on roll to winning the conference and then that JMar fiasco and lost two conference games. After 7 seasons, he still couldn't win the conference. We got a big W against Miami in the I-Bowl and it was a our 6th bowl win in a row. Still a good season but we seemed to be stuck in that mindset. A good (but not great) winning season and a bowl win, but nothing more. Always competitive, but no conference titles and no rankings.
Then 2020 happened and that season was a COVID mess. Then, 2021 looked promising at first. We collapsed against Miss St after leading most of the game. A hail mary loss to SMU. A competitive loss to NCST (tied or trailing by a touchdown the whole game). Every loss was by one score. Not winning but we were competitive again! Then the team just collapsed. losing to UTEP, UTSA, Old Dominion, UAB, USM(with no QB) and Rice. Holtz wasn't going to get it done. He had lost the team. After almost a decade, we had no conference title, no rankings and at best it wasn't getting better. Realistically we had regressed.
In hindsight, would it have been better to keep Holtz? Likely compared to Cumbie. But at that moment, it wasn't a bad call if we wanted to strive for more than being "competitive".
Re: Cumbie's Time is Over! It's time to Find a New Direction!
It was time for Holtz to go. Holtz has even admitted he had no drive or desire to be here anymore. Firing Holtz was right, then we Jeched it up with a bad hire. Holtz had nothing coming in and would have the same record as Crumbie probably.
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I'm not sure what Ivey will be looking at as the next HC. I would like to see someone with head coaching experience who can establish a winning culture here. A culture where kids are held accountable. A program where we don't have kids not make a bowl game because of grades.
Re: Cumbie's Time is Over! It's time to Find a New Direction!
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qng001
I'm not sure what Ivey will be looking at as the next HC. I would like to see someone with head coaching experience who can establish a winning culture here. A culture where kids are held accountable. A program where we don't have kids not make a bowl game because of grades.
As bad as things currently are, we'll probably have to settle...again...for someone untested. Someone that is an "up and comer". UNLESS we're able to find someone with a "history" and on their way down looking for a way to revive their tainted career. No one in their right mind that has any other options would be fool enough to come to Ruston at this point unless they're a glutton for punishment. Whoever comes won't have to tear down much to start the rebuild. It's pretty much at ground zero now. It'll be clean house and start from scratch time. But we'll all buy into it because we're eternal optimists. We believe the next one will be "The One"...
Re: Cumbie's Time is Over! It's time to Find a New Direction!
It’ll be like going back to 1988 except we won’t have a Joe Ramond Peace to establish an attitude of building up. These days the NCAA is all about reinforcing the powers at be while keeping the downtrodden under foot. La Tech is seriously screwed long term. Jech won’t have a winning record again until at least sometime in the 2030s.
Re: Cumbie's Time is Over! It's time to Find a New Direction!
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Bone_afide_Dawg
It’ll be like going back to 1988 except we won’t have a Joe Ramond Peace to establish an attitude of building up. These days the NCAA is all about reinforcing the powers at be while keeping the downtrodden under foot. La Tech is seriously screwed long term. Jech won’t have a winning record again until at least sometime in the 2030s.
Well, gee, that's discouraging...:(
Except, it doesn't have to be that way with the right hire. The biggest question is, can Jech not be "Jech" and instead be "TECH" and get that right hire? I have very little confidence in our current leadership to do it right. But, we'll see. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
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President Trump is going to revitalize Tech football
Re: Cumbie's Time is Over! It's time to Find a New Direction!
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dawg80
Well, gee, that's discouraging...:(
Except, it doesn't have to be that way with the right hire. The biggest question is, can Jech not be "Jech" and instead be "TECH" and get that right hire? I have very little confidence in our current leadership to do it right. But, we'll see. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.
Tech could very easily not have a winning record for at least another 6 seasons which would put them at 9 years. ULM is currently 11 years without a winning record and even though they’re 5-3 now doesn’t mean they’ll have one this year. Oh and for those who would say Jech isn’t ULM, you’re right, we’re actually worse. In the last 3 years Jech is 9-27 while ULM is 10-26. “Mirror, mirror on the wall…” Jech is exactly as inept as they appear.
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The fact that for at least a couple of decades in Louisiana it was LSU, then Tech, then everyone else and now we are below the level of the FBS "everyone elses" shows you how far this program has sunk. I wouldn't mind a few years of struggling if we were still above all of the others, but if NLU or USL came into our stadium for a game on a random Saturday would anyone feel good about it?
Re: Cumbie's Time is Over! It's time to Find a New Direction!
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Heavyarms
The fact that for at least a couple of decades in Louisiana it was LSU, then Tech, then everyone else and now we are below the level of the FBS "everyone elses" shows you how far this program has sunk. I wouldn't mind a few years of struggling if we were still above all of the others, but if NLU or USL came into our stadium for a game on a random Saturday would anyone feel good about it?
This is where a decade of piss poor leadership puts you!
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I’m watching Kent St play right now, and they might be the only program in the country that Crummy could beat by a FG. They are horrible.
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SicemDawgz
I’m watching Kent St play right now, and they might be the only program in the country that Crummy could beat by a FG. They are horrible.
You haven't been paying attention. Yes, Kent State is horrible, but we are Jech, and so their red-shirted freshman QB who has never taken a snap in a game will come in and set Kent State records for passing yards, rushing yards for a QB. Their defense, which would enter the game ranked dead last in every defensive stat in the nation, would look like the defense of the 1985 Chicago Bears...and you know the rest.
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In all likelihood Crumbie will be back for his 4th season in 2025. So as it turns out the CUSA championship will be between Jacksonville St & Western Kentucky. Remember Tech beat WK and lost to Jax on the last play hail mary and OT loss. Things such as this and the fact that Crumbie improved by 2 wins this year and had 3 OT losses will be enough to give him the benefit of the doubt. The problem is that CC can’t run a truly efficient offense and he’s very likely to lose his defensive coordinator. Next year will probably be a one step forward returning QB offense with a two steps backwards regressing defense.
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Let's just face the facts this athletic department is in a no win position. While I'm in the Fire Sonny Camp because like most people I believe wins and losses matter and when your 11-25 as an HC, 8-16 in CUSA Play, 2-16 on the road, and since 2022 Sonny Cumbie has the 2nd Worst record in the FBS.