Re: Protocol for Practice
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Originally Posted by
rustydawg
Mil, I usually agree with you, but when you look at the average attendance before dooley got here and what it was last year with a 4-8 record I think you will see that much more than the die-hards are onboard. Now we just have to see if it will continue to improve!
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Originally Posted by
mildawg
Dooley did a great job getting us moving in the right direction, but I don't personally believe we would have ever reached our full potential on the field under him. And the only way we'll ever double LTAC giving and have sell out crowds in Ruston is to WIN consistently over time. Other than the die-hards, Ruston and the surrounding area is filled with apathetic fans that are looking to jump on someone's bandwagon.
If you're old enough, think back to the TAC during the days of Malone and the crowds they used to pack in there. Look at it today. As far as football, we've not even sniffed the same sort of success. String together several winning seasons and bowl games, possibly even a BCS game, and there's no telling what could happen in Ruston.
Even though Dooley did a remarkable job in moving us forward on attendance (to include student involvement) and LTAC, I personally don't believe we'd have ever achieved the necessary success on the field under Dooley. Just one person's opinion, though.
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1L_dawg
One of the biggest unknowns is how the casual tech fan and/or grad (i.e. one who rarely if ever attends tech games but has some interest in tech) will respond if we put together 4-5 winning seasons and bowl games. Will they get on board and make the committment to attending games, buying seasons tix, giving to LTAC, etc.???
Since moving to D1A, i don't think that we have ever won CONSISTENTLY. Even during the Rattay "golden" years, it was a winning season followed by a medicore/poor season. plus, being independent kept us out of bowl games, etc. which only accelerates momentum.
If I remember correctly, at the Tech and Tails 3 kickoff event they talked about attendance and getting the casual fan in Ruston. They threw some numbers out there that were pretty eye opening. Those of you who were there can correct me if I'm wrong, but they said that the population of Ruston, not including surrounding areas or Tech students, is like around 30k. When you start looking at those who have the money to spend casually like on a football game you take in certain factors. The two that stick out in my mind are young adults who still live at home with no jobs or go off to school but either way don't have any money to spend and the largest number is the elderly who have their every penny budgeted and don't have the extra to spend on tickets to a game. He gave percentages for all the different groups to come up with a figure of actual Ruston people that could afford to attend the games, and the number was like 5k. The reason I mention this is because I don't think even winning consistently will bring in many more "local" casual fans. This is one of the biggest reasons we need to market ALL of North Louisiana. I think winning consistently will bring in more fans, but they're going to have to come from somewhere other than Ruston.
Re: Protocol for Practice
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Originally Posted by
Dirtydawg
If I remember correctly, at the Tech and Tails 3 kickoff event they talked about attendance and getting the casual fan in Ruston. They threw some numbers out there that were pretty eye opening. Those of you who were there can correct me if I'm wrong, but they said that the population of Ruston, not including surrounding areas or Tech students, is like around 30k. When you start looking at those who have the money to spend casually like on a football game you take in certain factors. The two that stick out in my mind are young adults who still live at home with no jobs or go off to school but either way don't have any money to spend and the largest number is the elderly who have their every penny budgeted and don't have the extra to spend on tickets to a game. He gave percentages for all the different groups to come up with a figure of actual Ruston people that could afford to attend the games, and the number was like 5k. The reason I mention this is because I don't think even winning consistently will bring in many more "local" casual fans. This is one of the biggest reasons we need to market ALL of North Louisiana. I think winning consistently will bring in more fans, but they're going to have to come from somewhere other than Ruston.
Very good point. In order to fill our stadium we need to pull in about 3% of the population in north La.
Re: Protocol for Practice
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Originally Posted by
Dirtydawg
If I remember correctly, at the Tech and Tails 3 kickoff event they talked about attendance and getting the casual fan in Ruston. They threw some numbers out there that were pretty eye opening. Those of you who were there can correct me if I'm wrong, but they said that the population of Ruston, not including surrounding areas or Tech students, is like around 30k. When you start looking at those who have the money to spend casually like on a football game you take in certain factors. The two that stick out in my mind are young adults who still live at home with no jobs or go off to school but either way don't have any money to spend and the largest number is the elderly who have their every penny budgeted and don't have the extra to spend on tickets to a game. He gave percentages for all the different groups to come up with a figure of actual Ruston people that could afford to attend the games, and the number was like 5k. The reason I mention this is because I don't think even winning consistently will bring in many more "local" casual fans. This is one of the biggest reasons we need to market ALL of North Louisiana. I think winning consistently will bring in more fans, but they're going to have to come from somewhere other than Ruston.
i was really thinking more about the casual fan in surrounding areas such as Shreveport/Bossier, Monroe, Winnfield, ElDo, etc.
Re: Protocol for Practice
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Originally Posted by
Dirtydawg
If I remember correctly, at the Tech and Tails 3 kickoff event they talked about attendance and getting the casual fan in Ruston. They threw some numbers out there that were pretty eye opening. Those of you who were there can correct me if I'm wrong, but they said that the population of Ruston, not including surrounding areas or Tech students, is like around 30k. When you start looking at those who have the money to spend casually like on a football game you take in certain factors. The two that stick out in my mind are young adults who still live at home with no jobs or go off to school but either way don't have any money to spend and the largest number is the elderly who have their every penny budgeted and don't have the extra to spend on tickets to a game. He gave percentages for all the different groups to come up with a figure of actual Ruston people that could afford to attend the games, and the number was like 5k. The reason I mention this is because I don't think even winning consistently will bring in many more "local" casual fans. This is one of the biggest reasons we need to market ALL of North Louisiana. I think winning consistently will bring in more fans, but they're going to have to come from somewhere other than Ruston.
So we already get a large percentage of the eligible Rustonites to our games. I wounder how many eligible folks live within 30 miles of Tech and even care about Tech?
Re: Protocol for Practice
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Originally Posted by
Dirtydawg
He gave percentages for all the different groups to come up with a figure of actual Ruston people that could afford to attend the games, and the number was like 5k.
If that is the case our ticket price structure is wrong...
On any given Saturday or basketball evening 1/2 or better of our seats are unsold, is it because of PRODUCT or PRICE?
You draw a circle within a radius of 120 miles of Ruston in all directions and set your price structure based on the data dervied from that population...
I still say Ruston and the immediate area is very UNDER SOLD in all facets -
Re: Protocol for Practice
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Originally Posted by
olddog75
So we already get a large percentage of the eligible Rustonites to our games. I wounder how many eligible folks live within 30 miles of Tech and even care about Tech?
Was at the doctor today in Ruston because I had surgery on my shoulder recently. A big kid from Cedar Creek who apparently a football player and does track. He must throw something good in track. His mom said something about him having the second best throw in the country. They were talking about colleges and Tech was mentioned. He laughed at the idea and said "they are in the WAC". That mentallity is all around Ruston and N. Louisiana
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Originally Posted by
techfan01
Was at the doctor today in Ruston because I had surgery on my shoulder recently. A big kid from Cedar Creek who apparently a football player and does track. He must throw something good in track. His mom said something about him having the second best throw in the country. They were talking about colleges and Tech was mentioned. He laughed at the idea and said "they are in the WAC". That mentallity is all around Ruston and N. Louisiana
Who was the last Cedar Creek kid that was good in college?
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that reminds me of the article that I read in the Dallas morning news this morning about the Smith kid from Plano East. I think he was committed to us and got a last minute offer from Virginia. He is transferring because he is the odd man out. Sometimes those bigger conference are not what they are cracked up to be.
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Originally Posted by
FieldDawg
that reminds me of the article that I read in the Dallas morning news this morning about the Smith kid from Plano East. I think he was committed to us and got a last minute offer from Virginia. He is transferring because he is the odd man out. Sometimes those bigger conference are not what they are cracked up to be.
Plano East quarterback Riko Smalls is leaving Virginia. He was either committed to us or we were at the top of his list. At the very end, Virginia offers him; Small accepts without visiting the school. Virginia has a new coach, which may have influenced Smalls' decision.
Plano East also had a tight end/defensive end (Kevin Smith) that committed to us and changed to Wake Forest.
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Originally Posted by
olddog75
Plano East quarterback Riko Smalls is leaving Virginia. He was either committed to us or we were at the top of his list. At the very end, Virginia offers him; Small accepts without visiting the school. Virginia has a new coach, which may have influenced Smalls' decision.
Plano East also had a tight end/defensive end (Kevin Smith) that committed to us and changed to Wake Forest.
it is Smalls, I got the names mixed up..
Here is a link about the story: http://www.fantasysp.com/cfb_player_news/Riko_Smalls/
http://highschoolsportsblog.dallasne...s-virgini.html
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boxerdog
Who was the last Cedar Creek kid that was good in college?
Damn good question. Tag Rome is the only one I can think of that had a productive college career at NLU. Jerry Hinton played DE for Tech back in the early/mid 80's but injured his knee and never was the same.
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TECH88
Damn good question. Tag Rome is the only one I can think of that had a productive college career at NLU. Jerry Hinton played DE for Tech back in the early/mid 80's but injured his knee and never was the same.
I remember Jerry Vascacu (?) played for Vanderbilt.
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boxerdog
I remember Jerry Vascacu (?) played for Vanderbilt.
Yep, you're right. He also sustained an injury while at Vandy and never reached his full potential.
Re: Protocol for Practice
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Originally Posted by
olddog75
So we already get a large percentage of the eligible Rustonites to our games. I wounder how many eligible folks live within 30 miles of Tech and even care about Tech?
The last number I saw for the entire Lincoln Parish was 42,000 with 60% non-caucasian.
Re: Protocol for Practice
Lincoln Parish is about 57% white and 39% black and has a popluation a little over 42k
