Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Old news. This is not the only “rapid test”
Not old news. Study was posted Tuesday.
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Louisiana is reopening state parks this weekend...yippee! Now, hopefully, we'll reopen Melrose Plantation and I can go back to "work." I say "work" because if you enjoy what you do, it is not work.
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Not old news. Study was posted Tuesday.
Are you saying that’s the only test/study out there? It’s not good news so that’s more likely your reason for posting it. I had already referred to it in my posts on Tuesday
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Are you saying that’s the only test/study out there? It’s not good news so that’s more likely your reason for posting it. I had already referred to it in my posts on Tuesday
I missed your post on it. But the Abbott Labs rapid test was the rapid test that could be rolled out most quickly.
This was just one non-peer reviewed study and hopefully their was a flaw in the study, because we need these rapid tests at scale.
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 13
32,662 cases 2,315 deaths testing rate at 13.7%
1,194 in hosp 147 on vents
May 14
33,489 cases 2,351 deaths test rate at 13.5%
1,193 in hosp 140 on vents
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Nursing home residents aren’t isolated from each other. Once a worker brings it in, and people aren’t tested after a worker tests positive, it spreads fast. Happens over and over and over again throughout the US and in Louisiana...
In the rural areas you also have to factor in that on many occasions an individual may work at various nursing homes or care facilities and they may be transmitting (most likely are) from one setting to the other....
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Just another example of unreliable testing. Back in February the tests were returning a ton of false positives. If you have any trace of past flu infection, and most people do, probably like over 90% of us, the tests were showing positive for C-19. False negatives, of course, is unacceptable. Which is why I just shake my head at all the idiots out there...do you know of one?...who fussed at President Trump for not having a widespread, fool-proof testing system for every effing person on the planet!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaay back then in February. Stooooooooooooooopid! There is still no such testing system...and we're in May now.
But, I don't blame medical science. As experts say as a novel virus C-19 was going thru rapid mutations...it has begun to stabilize some, although it will continue to mutate from now to the end of eternity. Saw a virus expert on TV the other day explaining "that's what viruses do."
Actually, I do blame medical science. The've been wrong about everything from the start.
- Back in January Anthony Fauci was telling people it was no big deal. Turns out, it was.
- Then it was "wear a mask", right before it became "don't wear a mask". Then it became "DO wear a mask", again.
- Then it was "our hospitals will be overwhelmed". They weren't. National averages topped out at roughly 8% capacity nation wide.
- Then we didn't have enough ventilators, now we've got too many.
- The Medical community told us to expect 1.5M to 2.2M deaths from coronavirus. The number is closer to 70K, and that number is probably terribly overstated.
- Chloroquine works! No, wait, it doesn't work! Or does it?
I could go on and on. But suffice it to say, "medical science" has dropped the ball often, and has looked worse than a bunch of keystone cops during this whole fiasco. Even they don't know what to believe. They (medical science) was terribly unprepared for this. Never mind, this is exactly the kind of stuff that we pay enormous dollars to the CDC, the WHO, etc....each year to PREVENT! It's the CDC's job to protect this country and the WHO's job to protect the world from stuff like this, and this was a MASSIVE FAIL on the part of our "medical science" community. As far as I'm concerned, they all get "F's" for their performance.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-info-war-over-chloroquine-has-slowed-covid-19-science/
https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/08/trump-was-right-cuomo-was-wrong-about-ventilator-needs/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCaxieeBKwo
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
Actually, I do blame medical science. The've been wrong about everything from the start.
- Back in January Anthony Fauci was telling people it was no big deal. Turns out, it was.
- Then it was "wear a mask", right before it became "don't wear a mask". Then it became "DO wear a mask", again.
- Then it was "
our hospitals will be overwhelmed". They weren't. National averages topped out at roughly 8% capacity nation wide.
- Then we didn't have enough ventilators, now we've got too many.
- The Medical community told us to expect 1.5M to 2.2M deaths from coronavirus. The number is closer to 70K, and that number is probably terribly overstated.
- Chloroquine works! No, wait, it doesn't work! Or does it?
I could go on and on. But suffice it to say, "medical science" has dropped the ball often, and has looked worse than a bunch of keystone cops during this whole fiasco. Even they don't know what to believe. They (medical science) was terribly unprepared for this. Never mind, this is exactly the kind of stuff that we pay enormous dollars to each year at the CDC, the WHO, etc.... It's there job to protect this country from stuff like this, and this was a MASSIVE FAIL on the part of our "medical science" community.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-info-war-over-chloroquine-has-slowed-covid-19-science/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCaxieeBKwo
But,but, but...if all things were equal and if this would have happened....our predictions could have been right!
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
eagle2180
But,but, but...if all things were equal and if this would have happened....our predictions could have been right!
LOl! :laugh:
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
Actually, I do blame medical science. The've been wrong about everything from the start.
- Back in January Anthony Fauci was telling people it was no big deal. Turns out, it was.
- Then it was "wear a mask", right before it became "don't wear a mask". Then it became "DO wear a mask", again.
- Then it was "
our hospitals will be overwhelmed". They weren't. National averages topped out at roughly 8% capacity nation wide.
- Then we didn't have enough ventilators, now we've got too many.
- The Medical community told us to expect 1.5M to 2.2M deaths from coronavirus. The number is closer to 70K, and that number is probably terribly overstated.
- Chloroquine works! No, wait, it doesn't work! Or does it?
I could go on and on. But suffice it to say, "medical science" has dropped the ball often, and has looked worse than a bunch of keystone cops during this whole fiasco. Even they don't know what to believe. They (medical science) was terribly unprepared for this. Never mind, this is exactly the kind of stuff that we pay enormous dollars to the CDC, the WHO, etc....each year to PREVENT! It's the CDC's job to protect this country and the WHO's job to protect the world from stuff like this, and this was a MASSIVE FAIL on the part of our "medical science" community. As far as I'm concerned, they all get "F's" for their performance.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-info-war-over-chloroquine-has-slowed-covid-19-science/
https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/08/trump-was-right-cuomo-was-wrong-about-ventilator-needs/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCaxieeBKwo
More like blame FoxNews. They were the ones giving these TV doctors (Drew, Oz, Phil) airtime even when what they were saying was inconsistent with what the experts were saying.
You are taking Fauci’s comments our of context from January.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sta...emplate=ampart
What he was saying was like the advice on masks “at that time.”
There wasn’t evidence that we had it in the US at that time. It wasn’t time for quarantining or wearing masks. It was time for the administration to put together a coherent national plan that was effective for dealing with it when it got here. They completely failed (and are still failing on that) because Trump isn’t a real leader.
The hospitals and deaths figures were what would happen if we didn’t lock down. That is why we did lock down, so that wouldn’t happen. Hope you are taking note again Techman05.
We are over 80k deaths now and heading to 150k with the reopening.
Trump and FoxNews are who was telling you that chloroquine works. That was always based on shaky evidence that experts (like Fauci) had reservations with.
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Just another example of unreliable testing. Back in February the tests were returning a ton of false positives. If you have any trace of past flu infection, and most people do, probably like over 90% of us, the tests were showing positive for C-19. False negatives, of course, is unacceptable. Which is why I just shake my head at all the idiots out there...do you know of one?...who fussed at President Trump for not having a widespread, fool-proof testing system for every effing person on the planet!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaay back then in February. Stooooooooooooooopid! There is still no such testing system...and we're in May now.
But, I don't blame medical science. As experts say as a novel virus C-19 was going thru rapid mutations...it has begun to stabilize some, although it will continue to mutate from now to the end of eternity. Saw a virus expert on TV the other day explaining "that's what viruses do."
Way back when other countries were able to do it. At the beginning of an epidemic you can deal with faulty tests better then once it is widespread. It is a numbers game. If you get a false negative, you get another chance to catch the next cluster. But as the numbers grow, it overwhelms your ability to put the brakes back on the spread.
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Way back when other countries were able to do it. At the beginning of an epidemic you can deal with faulty tests better then once it is widespread. It is a numbers game. If you get a false negative, you get another chance to catch the next cluster. But as the numbers grow, it overwhelms your ability to put the brakes back on the spread.
Ya mean like Italy and Spain!? The only thing worse than no data is bad data.
Wipe your ears...you're so full of it the shit is oozing from 'em.
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Ya mean like Italy and Spain!? The only thing worse than no data is bad data.
Wipe your ears...you're so full of it the shit is oozing from 'em.
Italy and Spain are the new benchmarks for measuring America? How low of a bar are you setting for Trump?
Germany and South Korea figured it out.
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Elections have consequences, and you guys that voted for this incompetent clown took America out of the elite category and put us on par with the former had-beens like Italy and Spain. It is time to Make America Great Again, like it was 4 years ago.
Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Italy and Spain are the new benchmarks for measuring America? How low of a bar are you setting for Trump?
Germany and South Korea figured it out.
You can do better than that (I think :rolleyes:). You know full well I was not measuring America against Italy and Spain. The topic was VERY SPECIFIC...faulty testing for the C-19 virus.
Funny thing, I was getting ready to post this:
I think I will make a real effort to be friends with Goosey. I have a friend who is a huge Democrat...he even likes Krooked Killary and JBE, and...and...he is a HUGE Dallas Cowboys and LSU fan! Yet, we get along really well, even though we mostly disagree on everything. His name is Craig M. and well, he's goofily, hopelessly wrong about so many things. Yet, we get along.
But, Goosey, I don't know...I'll have to continue to pray about it for you.