Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
Dwayne From Minden
Of all the pros and cons to argue over this game - whether we go undefeated with the addition of A&M to the schedule instead of Lamar is the most illogical and most assinine -
120 D1 teams and how many went undefeated last year?
Even if you beat Lamar - you still have the other 11 to play and NO ONE gives a rats ass except the 18K that show up at JAS and you have NO buzz in the regional or national spotlight
And IF we finish 11-1 or 10-2 with the lone loss being A&M or one of the losses being A&M - I guarantee you we will be ranked and NO ONE will give a rats ass that we lost to A&M on a regional or national scale
THANK YOU!!! Odds are we'll lose a game next year (apart from A&M). Lose to A&M, it won't kill us. Beat A&M, we're making noise even if we lose another game or 2.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
boxerdog
I want to reiterate this argument while I'm at it... Playing at Illinois is no worse than playing at Fresno (Fresno is usually better than them.) Playing at Virginia is comparable to playing at Nevada (do a statistical comparison over the past 5 years). The designation "AQ" doesn't automatically mean they have a superior team. With the loss of Nevada, Hawaii and Fresno--Illinois and Virginia would be comparable to upper echelon teams of the old WAC.
That's not the point. I was totally against the Illinois game. Why? It was our 2nd guarantee game. They don't return games to Aillet Stadium like Fresno State did. You cannot compare Fresno State and Illinois like that. If BVDV didn't schedule Illinois, I would have no problem with the A&M game.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
boxerdog
You've insisted that you are not arguing against this game because the possibility of going to a BCS bowl without it. Aren't you talking out both sides of your mouth?
No, I'm not. I was giving a rebuttal to bluecrew's irrelevant assertion.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
Dawg06
That's not the point. I was totally against the Illinois game. Why? It was our 2nd guarantee game. They don't return games to Aillet Stadium like Fresno State did. You cannot compare Fresno State and Illinois like that. If BVDV didn't schedule Illinois, I would have no problem with the A&M game.
I don't mind getting paid to play games we have a decent chance of winning. Illinois is winnable.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
bluecrew
Ball State wouldnt have made it because they had other non aqs who came into the season with more hype who made it to the BCS. We are expected to be good but we arent going into the season like Boise, Hawaii and even Houston did last season and you guys are all ignoring that fact.
I'm not positive you know how this works.
Ball State was within the parameters for an auto-non-auto bid going into the MAC championship. They were on their way.
Ball State did not enter that season highly ranked.
It wouldn't be a shoe-in, but it absolutely would be on the table. I'm as cynical about the system as anyone, but the precedence is there. If you're telling your audience that there was "no way" then you're way off.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
boxerdog
THANK YOU!!! Odds are we'll lose a game next year (apart from A&M). Lose to A&M, it won't kill us. Beat A&M, we're making noise even if we lose another game or 2.
It's just an academic discussion (certainly at this point with A&M a done deal).
We're arguing the vagaries of college football. That's what message boards are made for.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
bluecrew
Madd- I would agree about the last Shreveport experience(alot of that particular 1 is on gsu because they were in charge of the details of the classic) or hell anyone I have had in that stadium. The Saints/Cowboys preseason game in 06 was a nightmare. However Im willing to get thru it to see a team like TXAM. I do hope your right about the admins taking making everything more fan friendly. Also remember the Port City Classic is that weekend and they have events starting on thursday night I believe.
Why are you so "starry eyed" about playing Texas A&M? LA Tech has NEVER had a good experience playing them, and we've certainly never had a good outcome? Furthermore, Shreveport IS A PIT!!!!! What about that do people like you not understand?
I GUARANTEE you that many LA Tech fans won't even bother to go. Especially after the absolutely MISERABLE experience with parking 2 years ago. It literally took me and hour and a half to get out of that damn parking lot.
Yes, I'll be there this time because I'm a hardcore fan and supporter. But for a lot of Tech fans, playing in Shreveport is the equivalent of playing in downtown Bagdad, Iraq in 2004. This just really sucks. We're setting ourselves up for an embarrassing crowd turnout. And it's all because guys like you don't "get it".
HD
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
inudesu
I'm not positive you know how this works.
Ball State was within the parameters for an auto-non-auto bid going into the MAC championship. They were on their way.
Ball State did not enter that season highly ranked.
Yes I know how this works but if i remember and yes I could be wrong there were other Aq's ranked higher than Ball State was with our without The MAC championship. In fact when someone mentioned Ball State the other day I went and read an article that stated-Even at 13-0 Ball State could be on the outside looking in. We call sit here and bitch and complain about what COULD have happened its not an option. We are playing AM now lets foucs on beating them.
It wouldn't be a shoe-in, but it absolutely would be on the table. I'm as cynical about the system as anyone, but the precedence is there. If you're telling your audience that there was "no way" then you're way off.
Yes I know how this works but if i remember and yes I could be wrong there were other Aq's ranked higher than Ball State was with our without The MAC championship. In fact when someone mentioned Ball State the other day I went and read an article that stated-Even at 13-0 Ball State could be on the outside looking in. We call sit here and bitch and complain about what COULD have happened its not an option. We are playing AM now lets foucs on beating them.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
boxerdog
Give me your reasons so I don't have to scroll through all this stuff, please...
1. Coach Dykes did not want to change our schedule.
2. BVDV did not want to change the schedule.
3. Playing the game in Shreveport instead of Ruston eliminates our home field advantage and essentially spots A&M a field goal.
4. We have never sold out Aillet Stadium. ULL and ULM have both sold out their home stadiums, and they've done it recently. It's way past time for us to do that.
5. We will most likely lose to Texas A&M. Any win is better than any loss.
6. The logistics of Independence Stadium are a nightmare.
7. No Dawgzilla at Indy Stadium.
8. The gameday experience sucks in Shreveport compared to Ruston.
9. The I-Bowl is in the ghetto.
10. Playing in Shreveport forced the game to be played on Thursday instead of Saturday in Ruston. This prevents many of our fans from attending.
11. We don't know anything about tv yet. Supposedly our admin has not heard back from the tv guys. Only SEC home games are guaranteed on tv.
12. The majority of the locals will be there in purple and yellow chanting "S-E-C!"
13. Eliminating the Lamar game nets us two 5-game home, 7-game road slates in the future because we have no FCS game to offset 2 money games.
14. Shreveport kills our student section.
15. This decision kills our one shot at a BCS bowl.
16. Shreveport is already part of our market, and our conference fate has already been determined. This game will have no effect on our conference situation.
17. We will not gain any more fans by playing the game in Shreveport than if we would have played the game in Ruston.
18. DR scheduled this as a "money game" when we already had 2 money games on the schedule. I'm adamantly against scheduling multiple money games a year. You cannot build your program like that.
19. There will be NO tailgating on a Thursday afternoon in Shreveport.
20. A&M was willing to come to Ruston.
21. We are 0-10 against TAMU.
22. The Texas media is already referring to it as a neutral site game.
I'm sure there are even more reasons why playing A&M in Shreveport is not a good move.
Yes, there are some positives, but there are also a lot of negatives in my opinion.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
Dawg06
1. Coach Dykes did not want to change our schedule.
2. BVDV did not want to change the schedule.
3. Playing the game in Shreveport instead of Ruston eliminates our home field advantage and essentially spots A&M a field goal.
4. We have never sold out Aillet Stadium. ULL and ULM have both sold out their home stadiums, and they've done it recently. It's way past time for us to do that.
5. We will most likely lose to Texas A&M. Any win is better than any loss.
6. The logistics of Independence Stadium are a nightmare.
7. No Dawgzilla at Indy Stadium.
8. The gameday experience sucks in Shreveport compared to Ruston.
9. The I-Bowl is in the ghetto.
10. Playing in Shreveport forced the game to be played on Thursday instead of Saturday in Ruston. This prevents many of our fans from attending.
11. We don't know anything about tv yet. Supposedly our admin has not heard back from the tv guys. Only SEC home games are guaranteed on tv.
12. The majority of the locals will be there in purple and yellow chanting "S-E-C!"
13. Eliminating the Lamar game nets us two 5-game home slates in the future because we have no FCS game to offset 2 money games.
14. Shreveport kills our student section.
15. This decision kills our one shot at a BCS bowl.
16. Shreveport is already part of our market, and our conference fate has already been determined. This game will have no effect on our conference situation.
17. We will not gain any more fans by playing the game in Shreveport than if we would have played the game in Ruston.
18. DR scheduled this as a "money game" when we already had 2 money games on the schedule. I'm adamantly against scheduling multiple money games a year. You cannot build your program like that.
19. There will be NO tailgating on a Thursday afternoon in Shreveport.
20. A&M was willing to come to Ruston.
I'm sure there are even more reasons why playing A&M in Shreveport is not a good move.
Yes, there are some positives, but there are also a lot of negatives in my opinion.
I will agree that yes there are negatives..But I think we have a shot at beating them...call me crazy.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
bluecrew
I will agree that yes there are negatives..But I think we have a shot at beating them...call me crazy.
I agree with that. As I said before, I give us about a 39.7% chance of beating A&M in Shreveport.
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
bluecrew
Your right...I confused myself sorry lack of sleep. That doesnt change my stance about getting into the BCS. Oh well the topic is null and void.
This is what bothers me. As much as we enjoy having you in the local media, sometimes you spew stuff that's just WRONG! Sometimes you REALLY don't know what you are talking about. Just start confirming stuff before you say something that's just flat out WRONG!!!!
HD
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
ULM has never sold out their stadium
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
boxerdog
You don't turn down a home game against A&M (especially because you're banking on the prospect of being UNDEFEATED if you don't play them). Playing a home game against an SEC foe is not "whoring" out your team. That analogy fits if you travel to places and play games you have zero chances of winning just to get paid for it. I can't believe you guys are arguing that we shouldn't take this game b/c we might go undefeated otherwise.
Now, the argument of whether it should played in S'port or Ruston is a little different. I can see reasons for either. That said, I don't think our chances of winning the game increase by playing it in Ruston over S'port...
I can't think of a single valid reason that this TA&M game should be played in Shreveport, unless the objective is to turn LA Tech fans off. Just stupid.
HD
Re: Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall
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Originally Posted by
maddawg
ULM has never sold out their stadium
Grambling helped them several years ago.
http://www.bowlsubdivision.com/wp-co...nestadium1.jpg
