Serious Conference Realignment Discussion

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11-14-2021, 11:14 AM
Amos Moses

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Originally Posted by The Historian

If I were the CUSA presidents I would pester Army. Gift bags, fruit baskets, and the occasional unannounced visit.

After presenting them with 100 reasons why they should join this version of CUSA, make them no. Again and again.

This is the league they've been looking for for football.

They've played a football series with most of the current FBS schools in CUSA over the past 10 years.

It's the perfect setup for them.

And I'm sure CUSA would agree to neutral sites the way Tech did in 2013 when we played Army in Dallas.

That's one game I would like to forget. It stormed just before the game started, and all of us seeked shelter as best we could in the Cotton Bowl. Then Army comes out and, after two lengthy delays, really schools new coach Skip Holtz. A real butt kicking.
11-14-2021, 11:26 AM
sportdawg

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On pregame show yesterday, AD said he believes there will be another round of realignment in the next few years. He said he believe C-USA will go to 10 if they can find the right school, he didn’t mention names, but seems like MO State
11-14-2021, 12:39 PM
BhadDawg

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MO ST fits, wish they were happy with our other sports, I would like to think they would move at that point.
11-14-2021, 01:03 PM
HogDawg

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Originally Posted by FriscoDawg

Army won't consider FB only. Connecticut and Massachusetts add absolutely no value in FB right now being a combined 2-18 overall including 1-3 vs FCS teams. The only FBS win by either was the Massachusetts win over Connecticut.

IMO the only other FCS school prominently mentioned that provides value/potential is Missouri State. There is no reason to make any other move for all sports but them. Dallas Baptist for baseball only would be interesting.

I agree with this 100%. The door should aways be open for Army, but short of that, it's Missouri State or no one.
11-14-2021, 01:19 PM
HogDawg

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Originally Posted by BhadDawg

Many think we are at the worst spot we can possibly be, but maybe we are not. The chance to rebuild a better conference is here, as long as every member is not waiting around with one foot out the door.

I agree that a chance to "rebuild" a better, smaller, conference is really good for us. CUSA 3.0 was TOO BIG, and had too many boat anchors in it. We all know it. Now both the AAC and the Sunbelt are cursed with too many members. And they don't even realize it yet, LOL!

Again, we gotta keep the conference small. But wins are wins, and the smaller CUSA 4.0 will help while still leaving room for much better OOC scheduling. The mens basketball is already ""good" in this new CUSA 4.0, and the football will inevitably catch up and surpass the two bigger conferences because they are now stuck with the boat anchor programs.
11-14-2021, 03:35 PM
PawDawg

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Originally Posted by Amos Moses

That's one game I would like to forget. It stormed just before the game started, and all of us seeked shelter as best we could in the Cotton Bowl. Then Army comes out and, after two lengthy delays, really schools new coach Skip Holtz. A real butt kicking.

Moving this game to Dallas was probably the first bad move by our goof ball AD. The Navy game in Ruston was very well attended. The Army game would have been as well, even though the weather was bad here too that weekend.
11-14-2021, 08:36 PM
skilldawg

Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion

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Originally Posted by Amos Moses

That's one game I would like to forget. It stormed just before the game started, and all of us seeked shelter as best we could in the Cotton Bowl. Then Army comes out and, after two lengthy delays, really schools new coach Skip Holtz. A real butt kicking.

One of the very early signs the dude was a goof. He stated after the game that his strategy was to stop ARMY’S PASSING GAME…. Let that sink in. They averaged 11 yards per rush😠
11-14-2021, 09:49 PM
techman05

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Only 11 yards. Felt like more
11-15-2021, 08:40 AM
dawg80

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Related article about McNeese...

https://natchitochesparishjournal.co...till-volatile/
11-15-2021, 09:25 AM
inudesu

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Originally Posted by inudesu

SHSU and JSU are both waaaaay better at football than UMass and UConn.

If I'm not mistaken, Jacksonville State has more FBS wins than UConn and the same number as UMass this season. UMass also has 2 losses to FCS teams (which is two more than SHSU has so far).
11-15-2021, 09:27 AM
inudesu

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Related article about McNeese...

https://natchitochesparishjournal.co...till-volatile/

I think there is a growing feeling at the FCS (and lower) levels that this big Constitutional Congress thing coming up is going to really put a lid on changing levels. So all those teams leaving the Southland for the WAC (or considering it, in this case) no longer really have that same reason to make that move (because now the WAC's plans to move up as a group don't look so likely).
11-15-2021, 11:36 AM
TYLERTECHSAS

Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

I agree with this 100%. The door should aways be open for Army, but short of that, it's Missouri State or no one.

Only FBS teams from here out. Maybe steal a couple from Belch (FBS) but that’s it.
11-15-2021, 11:57 AM
inudesu

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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Only FBS teams from here out. Maybe steal a couple from Belch (FBS) but that’s it.

Neither of those things is very likely an option.

There aren't FBS teams left that are interested or would be worth having. UMass or UConn football are very far away and worse on the field than many FCS teams. And nobody is leaving the Sunbelt to join this version of CUSA (quite the opposite).
11-15-2021, 12:39 PM
dawg80

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Related article about McNeese...

https://natchitochesparishjournal.co...till-volatile/

Greg Burke, AD at NSU, is leaving athletics moving into fund-raising for the NSU Foundation. Burke has served as AD for 25 years.

Is all this news about schools leaving, not leaving, the reason Burke has chosen to resign now? It's a mess in college athletics right now, and schools like NSU live on the edge, just about daily, waiting for the next shoe to fall.
11-15-2021, 09:34 PM
The Historian

Re: Serious Conference Realignment Discussion

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

I agree with this 100%. The door should aways be open for Army, but short of that, it's Missouri State or no one.

I would stay where we are now with Army being the only expansion candidate I'd consider. Adding Army could mean:

Working out deals with with Fox and CBS and getting onto Amazon Prime (first choice) or Paramount+ (second choice) the way the Belt and AAC are on ESPN+. We could get CBS to stop paying ESPN for MAC games.

Forego the cash the way the Belt does - only taking in about $100K a year in cash the way the Belt schools do - if the networks agree to produce and pay for everything TV related, including Coach's shows.

Get the conference championship game onto network TV, either on Fox or CBS.

Keep making Army say no until they say yes.

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