He has realized that he shares white nationalist views, but doesn't consider himself a white nationalist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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He has realized that he shares white nationalist views, but doesn't consider himself a white nationalist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
No. White Nationalist is code for racist because a few white elitists were smart enough to come up with a code word for racist many months ago. It's a bullshit description of Trump supporters.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
Don't play dumb regarding this reverse racism tactic you guys with your elitist attitudes came up with.
But you support 19 Clinton supporters deciding whether Trump colluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That’s discrimination.
“White nationalist” is what many white supremacists call themselves. It wasn’t a name that the “elites” created. It has been in the dictionary since 1970 and the KKK uses the label.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
White nationalist have been around for a long time. They've been called that all my life. They were emboldened by the election of Trump and the supporters who turned a blind eye to it all like you, Dawg80, TylerTechsas, etc. Being openly racist to someone became normalized so that now the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES can say something better left to history, and his supporters are silent or instead attacking anyone who thinks a racist statement is racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I don't think you or anyone else here are white nationalist or truly racist. But you consistently and constantly show passive support for their actions, their rhetoric, and their goals. And then you wonder why someone would call you racist?
I mostly keep silent because y'all have lost yourselves. What y'all are now is not what y'all were 3 years ago, 10 years ago, or even when I lurked before I joined. With all the bullshit the Democrats and Republicans have done in that time, nothing explains the shift to where y'all are now. I keep reading old posts to see something that triggered y'all but have so far came up empty. When y'all are ready to stop forsaking your principals and morality for a few empty wins, BB&B and America will be great again. If being pragmatic and reasonable is elitist, I'm happy to wear that label.
You guys have a new code word because Arian Nation was a bit too much. Nazi seems to be acceptable again
Don’t break your arm patting yourself on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
Step out of the shadows and tell us who you support to be the next president
AMEN!!! I'd like to know which left wing loon he's going to vote for. I know who I'm voting for and it ain't no damn left wing loon. Keep America Great, Vote Donald Trump in 2020.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
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Originally Posted by glm47
None.
Never.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
Why is it a good thing that Republicans support Trump more when he says racist things?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Jubru is nothing but another leftist, anti-American POS. Oh, he bristles when called out, but all of his posts, all of his opinions are solidly in lockstep with the commie bastards manifesto. Of course, since his arguments have zero merit, he has to resort to the old "racist" attacks. And, he has achieved Nirvana for a lefty, he considers himself to be an "elitist." You will note that since no one else thinks he is, typical lefty has to proclaim himself to be. LOL.
That was pretty evident from that self righteous pile of crap he posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Leftists can’t stand it that Republicans finally have someone willing to play the game they’ve been playing for years.
Name calling has been going on for a long long time. Normally it just happens when the left insinuates everyone that does not agree with them is racist, homophobic, anti-woman, anti-environment. It is why there is such hate taught and spewed by the left, especially on many college campuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Generally, I veer away from such name calling. But I recognize it is NOT NEW, and has been practiced against Trump (and most Republicans) since he took office. Even you have been here insinuating that all Trump supporters are mindless robots that will cheer at anything he says (but I don't remember you rolling your eyes as people literally fainted at the sight of Obama when he was running to be savior and bracketed by Greek columns).
I am still not certain what Trump's opponents' issues are except that Trump is a racist, xenophobic, homophobic, Russian colluder that must be opposed for anything he wants to do....and beaten down until he can be impeached.
Any anyone who supports him and doesn't think like us... FIFYQuote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Sounds like you have captured most of it, but I would add “sexist” (not sure about his homophobia), and instead of “Russian colluder” I would say he is an egomaniac with affection for dictators and strongmen and that he doesn’t respect the Constitutional framework which is intended to limit the power of the US President.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
What exactly are you uncertain about?
Honestly … that's the impression I get. (And I really do not consume CNN, MSNBC, or any of the others.) I get that impression from twitter, this board, and … well, I live in Arkansas … I've met plenty Republicans. I really, really, really want it to be the wrong impression. Hence my recent "honest question", above.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
I never voted for Obama. I shared some of his positions, but his dramatic expansion of the surveillance state was a deal-breaker for me. (I have it on good authority that Guiss never voted for BHO either.)Quote:
(but I don't remember you rolling your eyes as people literally fainted at the sight of Obama when he was running to be savior and bracketed by Greek columns).
You forgot mob boss. But those are largely side issues, at least for me. We've had cruel presidents before, and we've had stupid presidents before. And I can think of at least one other cruel, stupid president. But what concerns me most about this administration is the wanton disregard for the rule of law, and the (seeming) inability of his own party -- a party I had once grudgingly respected -- to call it out.Quote:
I am still not certain what Trump's opponents' issues are except that Trump is a racist, xenophobic, homophobic, Russian colluder that must be opposed
Somebody is about to ask me for examples of Trump flouting the law. Guiss has already posted dozens. Let us agree instead that there's no link I can provide that won't be dismissed as an illegitimate source, yet I remain convinced to my own satisfaction.
I am not sure I would go as far as saying someone is a racist for supporting a racist. Maybe you aren’t paying attention and therefore don’t realize you are supporting a racist or maybe you lack sufficient empathy or awareness to understand humanity’s responsibility of rejecting such forms of racism and bigotry even when it is not politically expedient. However, if you condone him after his latest tweet storm you get to share some level of responsibility for HIS racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
But there is also no doubt that Trump also counts many actual racists in support base.
Sounds like leftist or liberal is the other side's racist. If you don't support Trump you are a leftist. If you do you are a racist. There doesn't seem to be any grey area any more. Jubru isn't a leftist or liberal. Although I would have said the same thing about Guisslapp not that long ago and he has moved hard to the left since Trump was elected.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
The propaganda has been significant and constant against Trump since he announced his candidacy. It's no wonder that even some conservatives have been taken in by it. Trump hasn't done much to bring those people back into the fold or refute the claims of his opponents. Probably one of the best and worst things about him.
I wouldn’t say I moved hard left. I am way more capitalist than even the average American. But I am the opposite of a populist, which is apparently what the new Republican Party is all about.
I can agree these are some absurd corners we're painted into.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
He really hasn't.Quote:
. Although I would have said the same thing about Guisslapp not that long ago and he has moved hard to the left since Trump was elected
Or … just consider the possibility … that it's actually legit. Or at least some fair portion of it.Quote:
The propaganda has been significant and constant against Trump since he announced his candidacy. It's no wonder that even some conservatives have been taken in by it.
You got nowhere to go then unfortunately. You have the left railing against the cultural and economic elite and the right railing against the political elite and news media. Bad times at the Guisslapp house I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I probably am a populist even though it is a derogatory label and most of the time it is used on people bringing economic collapse and socialism. I think all of those entities don't have the best interests of the common people in mind for a significant portion of their decisions. It's not a super effective ideology though as you can't effectively fight them without becoming them to an extent.
I have never had a political home which is why I have always been independent. Historically, I have just voted for the third party candidate most aligned with my principles and policies...until Trump came along. I then knew I had a duty to try to stop someone that posed and existential threat to America.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
On a national level (or state level) we don't get to pick a candidate based on our core beliefs. We are forced to go with the best option for what we believe to be best or closest to our core beliefs. Some will always allow their hate for a candidate to override their rationale or even their core beliefs . Example: Trump is not presidential, Trump tweets too much, Trump has bad hair...
The one that has bothered me the most is the one that got us this HORRIBLE governor we have now in Louisiana. I have many friends who hated Vitter enough to vote for a POS like Edwards. Vitter was by far our best choice. He lost because he was not liked. I didn't like him either, but I knew when Edwards started that "honor guard" crap, he was a snake oil salesman. Add to that that my fellow conservatives KNEW Edwards was going to approve Medicaid expansion. They voted for more welfare because they did not like Vitter.
He certainly has on some things, or he always held a more left stance than I gave him credit for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
You have to consider the possibility that a fair portion of it is legit. They are generating so much smoke that you have to think there is fire. Unfortunately or fortunately once you dig into it there is very little substance there, just more rabbit holes to go down. You can keep going deeper and deeper hoping you find something or you can realize they are full of crap and get out. The little sparks they actually do uncover are hardly worth the time.
Edwards- Vitter was the first time I refrained from voting because I couldn't pick between two bad candidates. For Trump-Hillary I voted third party because I couldn't bring myself to vote for the two main candidates. I wish I could truly pick my political representatives, but until then I have decided that it's better to hold my nose and vote for the candidate that will promote the policies more aligned with my political beliefs. Pretty much anything short of Duke-Edwards and I am picking a candidate.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Vitter was not a bad candidate. He was a much disliked person. The guy is a politician who could have fixed things that Jindal screwed up. Edwards had never done anything at all in his entire career.
The left wing loons treated Bush the same way they've treated Trump. The big difference is that Trump hits back at them and it makes them mad as hell. Gooslip is a very good example of that. I'm 100% behind Trump and I expect him to win in 2020 by a landslide. Trump has pushed the democrats so far to the left that they don't have a chance of winning the vote of the average working citizen. As far as those 4 women go that are calling Trump anything that they can think of, you won't hear anything from them after the 2020 election. Their favorability in the districts they represent has dropped below 10% mainly because they have done nothing for the people they represent.
The Democrats are really going to be upset when Horowitz report comes out and Durham and Barr start indicting the crooks that tried to take Trump down. Gooselip may have a heart attack.
Trump would’ve been impeached by now if he had broken any laws. The Clinton democrats working for Mueller couldn’t even find anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
I can’t wait to hear Mueller explain why he kept his investigation going long after he knew there was no collusion.
Mueller will be a no show.
#fAkEnEwSQuote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I don't know what you're reading, but it sure as hell isn't any post of mine. You even have to make up new falsehoods to try and get your empty win. Leftist? Only to your extreme right. Communist? Never. Anti-American? My life has been dedicated to public service for America since the day I was born and will to the day I die. POS? Yeah, I can be sometimes. Usually only to myself, though.
Tune it out all you want, the facts will still remain that racist statements are racist statements.
You can take your fake Christianity, your fake conservatism, and your fake support of American ideals and shove it right up your urethra. You think you are the loudest voice in the room and so that must mean you're right even though you're undeniably, verifiably wrong. But you don't give a damn. As long as you say what your fragile psyche demands of you, nothing else matters.
And of course I am bothered when you lie and summon all your petty and spiteful weakness to denigrate me. Whereas I get mad at lies, you get mad at truth. You exuberantly bask in your ignorance, being as insidious about it as possible; and it is hard to ignore when coming from someone I had respect for that puts themselves up on a golden pedestal as the shining beacon of all things right but momentously fails. Sure, call letting this get to me a personal failing of mine; can congratulate yourself for being right on that one.
I didn't call myself elite. But of course, your reading comprehension has been non-existent for a while now.
But please do keep explaining the soccer world in the "important stuff...." thread. You explain that better than the sports people that are paid to talk about it.
You read that crap from him and call me self-righteous? Same for you. Whatever you're reading isn't mine. Nothing I said is unfounded. In general, I do not consider myself morally superior. To what some have become today, though? Absolutely, I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
And don't buy-in to lies. I'm not a leftist. I'm only left of him (and I guess you) because he (and I guess you) is so far right that most of humanity that has lived or ever will live is to the left of him (and I guess you).
Not being an ideological pure blood does not make me less of or opposite of what I am.
I don’t recall ever calling anyone on BB&B a racist. I haven't even called Trump a racist. I have said he and others here have supported racist statements made by Trump (or others) and tend to make their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
Definitely need to stock up on the popcorn for the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Your words shout “I am better than you.” I understand though, it wouldn’t be hard to start thinking you were smarter than everyone else living in Massachusetts. After all, they’ve supported Ted Kennedy and Elizabeth Warren, a murderer and a fraud, respectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
It's a Kasich thing. He is a hero to many and as much a fake as McCain.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
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Originally Posted by glm47
Really, there have been plenty days the two years I've been here where police protection from some of my neighbors was nearly a necessity. Don't be surprised if you hear I'm in the hospital after the next election (from an attack, not my stupid health bs).Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Not me. Kasich sucks. I don't hold the same vitriol for McCain you do, though many of your criticisms I share.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
vitriol...I had to look it up, but I had a good idea. Nice word drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
Attachment 14434
Guiss and Champ and crew ready to roll and fight some facists
Racism alert: 32% Democrats say white pols can't criticize blacks
In what has to be one of the most interesting polls of the day, Rasmussen Reports finds that “one-in-three Democrats think it’s racism any time a white politician criticizes a politician of color.
Think what that means.
White politicians can’t say a word against black politicians, Hispanic politicians, Asian politicians — any politician with a skin color that deviates from white — without being accused of racism, according to about a third of Democrats.
Without being guilty of being racist, that is.
That’s just crazy. That’s just speech-stifling, freedom-chilling crazy.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...ols-cant-crit/
Jubru - me thinks thou doth protest too much
You are not an independent and you obviously don't understand true and viable threats to America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Logical fallacy - false choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Not for a democrat. Lack of civility did not start with Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
More hypocrisy from you. Talk about a group of mindless robots - liberals are heads and shoulders above Republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
I guess to their defense I would say they have a large majority of the national media and education system feeding them a partisan liberal view 24/7, so it's to be somewhat expected.
http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/image...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Champ967 http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/image...post-right.png
I'd submit that the inability / unwillingness to filter what one says is a not necessarily a strength.
Not so long ago, a lack of diplomacy would've been considered a liability for a public official.
So true GLM! Trump and some of the GOP is just now getting a backbone and willing to dish it right back. The Socialist Dems aren't use to being talked back to in their same decades of tone and vitral at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Very true. What started with Trump was the right defending it . . . nay, cheering for it. Trump is a mirror. A bunch of folks who’ve called themselves conservatives for years turned out to be nationalistic populists...two ideologies that lead to statism...which is antithetical to small government.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
I'll ask again … this is a qualification? The capacity to match Dem's alleged cruelty in equal measure?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
No, it started in a garden with a fruit tree and talking snake.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
But yalls defense of Trumps behavior is that he didn’t start it? Like kids on a playground?
Republicans saying “hey at least we’re not as bad Dems” sounds like Tech fans who say “at least we’re better than Northeast”
Alleged cruelty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Is abortion cruel?
Yes, and I hate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Show me where I defended Trump’s behavior. I never said I like everything he does. But he’s better than the alternatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Again, you complain about Trump’s civility, why never before him was this an issue with you?
Again … that's pretty weak sauce.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
I guess because bad manners were never before celebrated as a character strength in an elected official. Like the lsu fan who can projectile vomit all over the visitors. Anywhere else, he'd be escorted out. But on gameday in BR, he's a role model. You're really proud that your crew finally has someone who can projectile vomit just as well as the other guys? If it's nasty when they do it, that's a reason to NOT do it.Quote:
Again, you complain about Trump’s civility, why never before him was this an issue with you?
And also because I hold Republicans -- allegedly the party of higher values -- to a higher moral standard. I dont expect the world to be anything other than the world. And I dont expect a staunchly secular party, like the Dems, to be anything other than secular. But when Republicans claim to be the tribe of a traditional Judeo-Christian values, I expect more.
Yes, as it seems to be the only thing that gets the Dem's attention and of course amplifies the huge double standard of the socialist Dems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Hey we are better..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
I think we conservatives should immediately hire protection detail for The Squad. We don’t want anything to happen to the slam dunk campaign for all republicans in the next cycle.
You won’t even admit his racist comments were racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Why admit to something that’s not true?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You proved my point again.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Guy I work with today brought up a point that I had not considered before, but I'm trying to find examples that counter it but I can't so far. He said if you notice and listen carefully to what Trump talks about and who he "attacks", he goes after Democratic politicians, he doesn't demean or degrade democratic voters. Democratic politicians have called Trump supporters and voters "deplorables", "garbage", "racists", or "nazis". This I have seen via news clips in their own words. I have yet to see where Trump has used similar language to describe democratic voters. I'm sure you guys can help me find examples.
White nationalists that Trump counts in his base are all of those things? Do you disagree? And he keeps flirting with these people with extreme ill ideologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I do remember a time when Trump made up a lie about Democrat voters after the midterm elections: “When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on”
That you’re a race baiter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Yes I did.
When have you EVER heard of an American-born white person being told that they should go back to the country from where they came? It just doesn’t happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
But that phrase, and it’s variants, has a long history with people of color. I have personally heard white people say that to people of color, or more frequently, about people of color not to their face. I know you have, too.
To understand how people of color who have experienced this slur, you should check out this collage of letters written by ordinary American citizens who have personal experience with the phrase.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...ml%3f_amp=true
Democrats love to dish it out, and they’re protected by the media when they do. But they can’t stand for someone to give it back to them. They will resort to any means to shut you down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
The irony is so rich that now you liberals are concerned about decorum.
Sure there are crazy people on both sides of the political spectrum. But POTUS candidates are painting all Trump supports in this light, not just the small fringe crazy white nationalists. Trump hasn't called all democratic voters "garbage" or "nazis".Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Surprised you didn't comment on the Rassmussen poll that state almost 1/3 of all democrats think if you disagree with a political candidate of color that you are racist.
I can make a better case that you are and support terrorists than you can make of Trump being a racist or his supporters being "white nationalists". You are such an idiot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
1/6 of Republicans also thought so. I am no longer surprised what people think.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Trump does count white nationalists in his base. I haven’t suggested that it is the majority, but in a close election it can make a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Happens all of the time here in Texas. “America; Love it or leave it!”Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
“To the country you came from” or “where you came from” is the key phrasing. Why do you think people don’t use this language with white people?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
I will tell you - is it because it reflects the racial bias that America is a white country. No one quickly associates you or me with having another home country other than here. If you are a person of color, there is a pervasive subconscious bias that you are lesser American.
Three of the 4 women he directed that comment to literally came from America. They did not come from another country. What did he mean - where was he suggesting that AOC came from? Where did Pressley come from? Tlaib?
This same type of perverted thinking supported the Obama birtherism conspiracy that he supported. This guy has a history of revealing his innate racial biases and lending offense and defense to racists and xenophobes. It is wildly inappropriate for someone that is POTUS and it damages the fabric of our country and threatens the stability of the world because other racist leaders know they won’t be called out by America when they oppress their minorities.
So he repays evil with evil? Democrats are nasty, so let's all be nasty? Charles Manson killed a bunch of people, so let's all kill people?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
You feel this is a good thing for the leader of the party that (putatively) represents the nation's traditional Judeo-Christian values?
Like I said, there IS a double standard. What of it? If Republicans are truly the party of higher standards, they should embrace it.
To clarify -- I've never registered as a Democrat, and I rarely vote for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
As has been discussed before, at some length, media companies are profit-driven and will produce whatever material they feel will drive viewership, revenue, and share value. (that's called "capitalism", btw) They're under no obligation to deliver you fair or unbiased news. If you dont like it, dont watch it.
I dont know about others, but I do not condone bad behavior from any public officials. I dont care their color or creed -- classy is classy and mean is mean.
So, President Trump then ordered his jack-booted thugs to physically grab the Odd Squad and take them back to their home countries. No? That didn't happen? Oh..okay…
Ah! as a result of his saying that, someone else forcibly deported them. Well, that's not good. Oh, but wait, that didn't happen either!
Oh! Congress just voted to deport the Odd Squad! Only, that hasn't happened either.
At the end of the day, all we have is an exchange of statements from all parties involved.
Gee, I'm glad I don't take name-calling, going or coming, seriously. That would take a lot of the fun out of social media, I mean if we're all as thin-skinned as some of you are.
I am Irish....good ole Irish scum...we have been kicked out of every decent country on Earth! Understandable since we are all a bunch of drunken fighters! A good ole Donnybrook! What else can you add? We're not too bright? We build ships like the Titanic that sinks when it hits a frickin' ice cube!? Tis true! Pile it on...we can take it.
But media companies aren't suppose to out right lie their arses off either (Fake News). I actually heard a working journalist state, "The media, news networks and journalistic news in general was the 4th power of government". :shocked2: :shocked2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
I do agree with your last sentence.
Been offline for a few days. Didn't mean to imply that you did. I was just stating that calling someone a leftist or a liberal is the right wing equivalent of the other side calling people racist. "I don't agree with you and you make me angry so you're just a _____." The words lose meaning when they are thrown around inappropriately.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
That ship has probably sailed unfortunately. If you have a bunch of Charles Manson's running around killing people with no repercussions, yeah eventually everyone is going to go around killing people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
But you do. And it's a big part of why we are in the situation we are in. You're statement about media companies above is a snippet of the issue and I completely agree with it by the way, as long as you don't try to present that same media as fair and unbiased news.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Donald Trump is what emerged from the breaking point. People wanted somebody who wouldn't go on the late night shows that made fun of them and play nice. Who wouldn't appear on SNL next to their impersonator and make jokes. Who wouldn't shrug off the negative stories in the media, but would fight back. I actually agree with those things, but I didn't think Trump was a good choice to be that person. I have been surprised at how much policy I agree with Trump on and the fact that his critics still don't understand how and why he got elected tells me nothing is going to be done to improve the situation.
Trump has proposed new guidance in the food stamps program designed to reduce the rolls by tightening the eligibility...i.e. those on the high end of the income bracket. If completely implemented would reduce spending by several $billion annually. Haven't heard much about it yet, but I expect the usual suspects to protest loudly and push back simply because it is Trump proposing it.
Some of you have been asking about fiscal conservatism, and this is just another in a long line of proposals, many changes, President Trump has championed. Not all of his proposals have been fully implemented or even started because The Swamp in the form of the bloated bureaucracy has ignored the mandates. But, of course, the ever-increasing debt is Trump's fault. NOT! If all of his proposals had been adopted we would be running a surplus in the budget by now.
The lamestream media and the gullible who actually believe it, who know nothing of these proposals, remain blissfully ignorant.
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
This post is as stupid as your twss posts. You never say anything about all the hatred that is directed at Trump and all the lies the democrats direct at him . You only post when Trump replies back to them when you post something about how mean it is for Trump to pick on those poor democrats. Comparing Trump to Charles Manson may be your most stupid post of all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Looks like CNN is not very good at capitalism. They keep making up lies about Trump and other Republicans and they keep losing viewers. Your reverse thinking is not working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
I was not comparing Trump to Manson. I was trying to illustrate that "democrats do it too" is a weak defense. Because somebody else behaves badly is not a reason for everyone to behave badly. I maintain that "hitting back" is more often a weakness than a strength, particularly in a public official.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
As far hate directed at Trump … wah. He freely chose the single most highly scrutinized and criticized job perhaps all human history. If he cant take it gracefully, it serves to corroborate the "big baby" narrative his critics allege.
Over 3 years of being investigated by crooked FBI officials and crooked democrats that supported Hillary Clinton and you think he should not fight back? He would be the weakest man on this planet if he didn't. I'm glad he hit back at Cummings. He is a disgusting human, just like Nadler, Schitt, and the rest of your liberal democrats. His wife stole $250,000 from a tax free charity and none of the news media except FNC has even mentioned it.
Unfortunately what Trump is teaching the right is that taking it gracefully wasn't going to bring change. People like yourself were never going to hold anyone on the left accountable. They can't see the bad behavior from within their bubble, and taking it gracefully was only allowing that bubble to grow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
That sounds like propaganda. He was the ONLY one who could affect change. We don't know that. Further, we don't know what of his change is going to stick. Beyond that, Trump has given conservatives some wins (no doubt). He's also dealt some serious blows to free-market capitalists. There's not much difference between Elizabeth Warren's economic plan and Tucker Carlson's.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
The Left is never held accountable...not as a whole. A few lefty individuals are...like Al Franken (the bozo), but the loony Left and its moronic followers never are. (except by a few of us). Trump pushes back and the Left and the lamestream media can't handle the heat. What's more! now we are seeing other GOPers, like Lindsey Graham, standing up to the bullies on the Left. Trump has embolden others to grow a spine.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
This 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I didn't say he was the only one, or even that he was the best one, but he was willing to put himself in the cross-hairs by standing up to them as few (maybe none) have done before. So far the attacks have failed to do much damage. He's become a "Teflon Don" as even the areas of legitimate criticism seem to slide right off. I don't view his "blows to free-market capitalists" are as much of a concern to me because i view them as minor relative to the damage done in the past. His complete lack of fiscal responsibility is the concerning thing to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Trump is tied with Obama at this time in their Presidencies.
RASMUSSEN: 47% APPROVAL...
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_aug07
So 47% of our population are deplorable white nationalists (skin heads).Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
If you ask a liberal, that % is way low.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
:D
STUART VARNEY: Trump 'dominated' G-7 unlike any president in 'years'
LEGENDARY PERFORMANCE?
The Tweeter in Chief struck again last week. Will be interesting to see what this week holds.
This thread was noticeably silent during the whole "king of Isreal" / "second coming" / "chosen one" affair. I've suggested before that the President is, to many of his followers, an infallible messiah above any reproach or criticism. And now he's even been using messianic language to describe himself. Of course, it was dismissed by his supporters as out-of-context / fake news / etc .Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I wonder if he were to demand outright worship, how some members of this board would respond.
Reality check.
Trump's "chosen one" aside was likely tongue-in-cheek, not a sincere profession of any belief in his own messianic status. Separately, in a series of tweets, Trump quoted a radio host who claimed Jewish people in Israel admired the U.S. president so greatly that it was as though Trump were the King of Israel or the second coming of Christ. Trump never himself articulated any such belief.
1) Practicing Jews dont ascribe to the first coming of Christ. Much less the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by tech70
2) Ostensibly, a Christian believer would refute such a statement. Or just not acknowledge it. Why would one even bring it up if you dont, at least on some level, believe in your own messiah-ship?
Don't waste your time trying to explain anything to the ignorant anti-American Trump-haters. They only know what the commies tell them to believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by tech70
You thought the retweet was a good move?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I saw all the commies the other day at our weekly roundtable. None of them said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80