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It was not both, but great job of taking a patriotic stance for McCain. FWIW, the yeah vote was not going to do what you painted in this imaginary picture...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
He could have/would have voted to end obummercare if there was a plan to replace it.
Deny all you want. The nay vote was a bout Trump hate.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
RINOs continued to hate trump from the time he announced he was running until now.
Well, PawDawg, you appear to have an insight into McCain's heart and mind. I don't. All I have is what he said. I suppose he could have been lying, of course, but I have no way of knowing that. Apparently, you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I don't doubt for a moment McCain despised Trump, and I posted that. McCain was nothing more than a RINO and was a self-serving politician. I acknowledged he was partly inspired by hatred of Trump, but he also was a pragmatist and had said several times in interviews there needed to be a replacement plan ready to go. But...he was lying, right?
Before forming fence riding decisions, research the vote and what it actually meant. I was not about a total repeal of Obamacare. Therefore there was no reason for an alternative to be in place at that point. For that matter, the alternative was there, but the RINOs and Dems didn't think it was enough. That plan included the pre-x clause, but not abortions.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Water under the bridge now...Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
But, yeah, John McCain chit all over his legacy. He won a few points from the libtards for his vote, but they never liked him and they have all moved on too. McCain did have some admirers and supporters from the moderate and right-leaning center but even many of those washed their hands of him. He has no "friends" in the political fandom world.
Omniscience is a heavy burden...I’m told.
No one is omniscient. Just some of us are closer than most others. And some of you are in a different time zone from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Trump’s been promising a better alternative to ACA will be rolled out in a ‘couple weeks’ for years, right? Even a handsomely bound book of blank pages for 60 minuets...what do we have? Nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Rinos...https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P43wDpKQxaM
Nothing at all is a much better alternative than Obamacare.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
And the regressive Dems are Trump haters because he wasn’t afraid to give them back the same BS medicine they had been spewing at Rep. for decades. The Bushes wouldn’t respond.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg;
Plus Trump was trying to take away the swamps illegal foreign personal money machines away. The Clintons, Pelosi and husband, Biden family etc..all made huge fortunes off foreign countries ill-gotten kickback gaming of the system.
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President Trump’s campaign team on Sunday filed an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court asking it to reverse several cases by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to change the state’s mail balloting law before and after the 2020 presidential election.
The president’s campaign alleged in a statement that the Pennsylvania State Supreme Court’s changing of the law was a violation of Article II of the U.S. Constitution and Bush v. Gore.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
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There’s been no alternative given, in spite of promise after promise. Couple weeks out.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Remember that time that Trump championed universal health care? Talk about a rino- populist come lately...
That's not true, but nice liberal narrative you are going with. The GOP had a plan in place that did not include abortion. Some RINOs, including McCain, Murkowski, Collins voted nay...Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
The legislation included a repeal of a one-year defunding of Planned Parenthood, a provision giving states more flexibility to opt out of insurance regulations. It also would have increased the amount that people can contribute to Health Savings Accounts.
I'm having a flashback...yep, there was a "far right" (as it was called) plan on the table. It had no chance of getting support from the baby-killing Left, and many Repubs in purple districts (states) feared for their reelections, so it was DOA. The Left wanted no part of ending obummercare and were not, and were never gonna be in a compromising/negotiating mood. Even the Repubs couldn't agree on one, final plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
They all agreed on where to start other than the three I listed. None of those three are/were truly republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
One final plan was never going to happen until the end. As you know, the GOP started with their main demands. The three haters would not even allow the negotiations to begin.
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Originally Posted by PawDawg
No narrative, and I’m not talking about ancient history.
President Trump has been promising something in a couple of weeks for how long now? Where’s it at?
Do you remember when Trump championed universal health care?