Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition

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Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue

This statement kills me "Hopefully, Louisiana will meet the White House criteria and move to Phase 1 on May 15, provided symptoms, new case counts and hospitalizations decrease and the state continues to surge testing and contact tracing capacity. "

So if we surge testing (I'm assuming test more people), won't you expect to find more cases, either a-sym or mild. So we have more cases therefore we're not going to open until again we can ramp up testing and see decreases in the number of cases. Seems like a vicious circle.

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Hospitilizations should be the metric, IMO. That would rule out the increased cases due to increased testing.

They still aren’t really testing asymptomatic people in the area even if they have had direct exposure to a known positive. You can probably get the test under those circumstances, but they aren’t generally going to encourage you to if you are asymptomatic. We are way too short on tests to test asymptomatics.

I am hoping that means if we have a rise in numbers we can then do large count testing to find and quarantine the sick and not the well. What a novel idea. I understand with little reliable test kits and no domestic manufacturers of reliable tests the only way to protect the hospitals was to shut things down but now we should do what has been done for 100’s of years and quarantine the sick.

Trumps fault for not “rolling out” the tests

Everything is his fault ,he stopped travel to soon and now not soon enough. He allowed us citizens to come home and now he let people come in after the ban.

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Originally Posted by tech70

I am hoping that means if we have a rise in numbers we can then do large count testing to find and quarantine the sick and not the well. What a novel idea. I understand with little reliable test kits and no domestic manufacturers of reliable tests the only way to protect the hospitals was to shut things down but now we should do what has been done for 100’s of years and quarantine the sick.

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That was always the idea. Case counts drop then open (while social distancing) and test and contract trace when new cases arise. But that relies on way more testing capacity than what currently exists.

More on region 8.

https://www.knoe.com/content/news/NE...569989591.html

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

More on region 8.

https://www.knoe.com/content/news/NE...569989591.html

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Meanwhile Tensas Parish is still sitting on their ONE case. Surely Tensas can reopen.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

What I know is not encouraging.

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Just thought this was a funny quote from Guisslapp. Made me chuckle. Carry on everyone.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

April 27

27,068 cases with 17,303 recovered 1,697 deaths testing rate at 18.4%

1,683 in hosp 262 on vents

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April 28

27,286 cases 1,758 deaths testing rate 16.0% (big drop in positive testing) (no update on the previously reported # recovered)

1,666 in hosp 244 on ventilators

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Originally Posted by detltu

Just thought this was a funny quote from Guisslapp. Made me chuckle. Carry on everyone.

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Good one.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

April 28

27,286 cases 1,758 deaths testing rate 16.0% (big drop in positive testing) (no update on the previously reported # recovered)

1,666 in hosp 244 on ventilators

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Has anybody in Louisiana died of anything other than the China virus over the last four weeks? I’m pretty sure ALL deaths in region 8 have been due to the China virus.

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Originally Posted by detltu

Just thought this was a funny quote from Guisslapp. Made me chuckle. Carry on everyone.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Good one.

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Narcissist alert.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Narcissist alert.

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For acknowledging detltu’s noticing how my statement could be turned around on me?

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Narcissist alert.

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Just messing around. I think he took it in the right spirit. Nothing wrong with that.

Delivered another 750 masks to the NRMC today. They are labeled as disposable, each individually wrapped. The nurses love the ones we brought last week and were glad to see these. They say they are comfortable and they are wearing them in conjunction with other masks, depending on what they are doing and how close they work with patients. My wife and one of her techie professors used a 3D printer to make some mask adjusters. They allow the wearer to better adjust the mask, taking the pressure off your ears. The nurses love those too.

Dr. Pan emailed saying unless we were desperate this was the last of the shipments. Many vendors are providing masks now, so that will probably be the last ones from Shenzhen.

Thanks you and your wife.

https://www.bayoubrief.com/2020/04/2...vid-19-orders/

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Delivered another 750 masks to the NRMC today. They are labeled as disposable, each individually wrapped. The nurses love the ones we brought last week and were glad to see these. They say they are comfortable and they are wearing them in conjunction with other masks, depending on what they are doing and how close they work with patients. My wife and one of her techie professors used a 3D printer to make some mask adjusters. They allow the wearer to better adjust the mask, taking the pressure off your ears. The nurses love those too.

Dr. Pan emailed saying unless we were desperate this was the last of the shipments. Many vendors are providing masks now, so that will probably be the last ones from Shenzhen.

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We have been 3d printing some mask holders that are meant to improve the seal around the face. That has been really fun. I've had the 3d printer for a while with nothing to really do with it, but it has worked great for these. I assume you are talking about the ones that go on the back of the head and the mask straps hook to it. The ones we are doing go on top of the mask to improve the seal.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

https://www.bayoubrief.com/2020/04/2...vid-19-orders/

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That is an excellent example of some really biased reporting.

It is always nasty when people see behind the curtain though. Not a good look.

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Originally Posted by detltu

That is an excellent example of some really biased reporting.

It is always nasty when people see behind the curtain though. Not a good look.

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He’s a blogger and never pretends he’s not biased. We graduated high school together. He did include the unaltered memo.

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Originally Posted by detltu

We have been 3d printing some mask holders that are meant to improve the seal around the face. That has been really fun. I've had the 3d printer for a while with nothing to really do with it, but it has worked great for these. I assume you are talking about the ones that go on the back of the head and the mask straps hook to it. The ones we are doing go on top of the mask to improve the seal.

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Yes, we delivered some more of the kind that you hook the mask too. It is really designed to make wearing the mask more comfortable, so I guess folks will keep them on longer.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

April 28

27,286 cases 1,758 deaths testing rate 16.0% (big drop in positive testing) (no update on the previously reported # recovered)

1,666 in hosp 244 on ventilators

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April 29

27,660 cases 1,802 deaths testing rate at 17.7%

1,629 in hosp 244 on vents

Another example of everything that is wrong in our country:

https://natchitochesparishjournal.com/2020/04/29/covid-19-related-lawsuit-filed-against-natchitoches-nursing-and-rehabilitation-center-in-natchitoches/


Frivolous lawsuits. And naming two of our "heroic" frontline healthcare workers as named defendants. Shameful.

This is why the isolate-the-vulnerable strategy doesn’t work.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

This is why the isolate-the-vulnerable strategy doesn’t work.

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'Stay at home' apparently didn't work in this case either. Maybe its time for even essential workers to stay at home.

Nothing's going to work perfectly in all cases.

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Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue

'Stay at home' apparently didn't work in this case either. Maybe its time for even essential workers to stay at home.

Nothing's going to work perfectly in all cases.

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It hasn’t been successful in many cases dealing with nursing homes. Turns out the risks of people getting it in nursing homes goes up just like it does everywhere else when the disease spreads in the community, despite the fact that they are in “lockdowns.” If we don’t continue to fight the general transmission of the disease it will wipe them all out.

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Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue

'Stay at home' apparently didn't work in this case either. Maybe its time for even essential workers to stay at home.

Nothing's going to work perfectly in all cases.

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The masks are essential to ending this thing...along with rolling out the tests of course.

Also, when they start fining us for not wearing a mask will they also start fining those who can't prove they washed their hands for 20 seconds and didn't cough in their elbow?

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

The masks are essential to ending this thing...along with rolling out the tests of course.

Also, when they start fining us for not wearing a mask will they also start fining those who can't prove they washed their hands for 20 seconds and didn't cough in their elbow?

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They may need to amend a state law:

2011 Louisiana Laws
Revised Statutes
TITLE 14 — Criminal law
RS 14:313 — Masks or hoods, wearing in public places prohibited; penalty; exceptions; permit to conduct mardi gras festivities, how obtained; wearing of hoods, masks, or disguises or giving of candy or other gifts by sex offenders

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...ABshgY6RLcSRNA


Some businesses never closed. They completely ignored the shutdown orders and operated exactly as they always have. Some employed some modest accommodations like wearing masks and/or some spacing out of their employees dealing with customers. I could name a few but what's the point?

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Originally Posted by dawg80

April 29

27,660 cases 1,802 deaths testing rate at 17.7%

1,629 in hosp 244 on vents

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LDH reports updated, confirmed cases in state's nursing homes and assisted living facilities: 3,200 cases and 640 deaths, of the totals shown for the state.

There are 230 such facilities in the state.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

LDH reports updated, confirmed cases in state's nursing homes and assisted living facilities: 3,200 cases and 640 deaths, of the totals shown for the state.

There are 230 such facilities in the state.

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How many deaths of residents in those 230 facilities other than the 640 noted and how many do we normally have during the time period in question?

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

How many deaths of residents in those 230 facilities other than the 640 noted and how many do we normally have during the time period in question?

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Your empathy deficit is starting to get disturbing. We are talking about actual people, you know. People that died often leaving loved ones in grief. Loved ones that haven’t been able to be near the relative during the quarantine or even be in the same room when they passed. Open your heart a little. It will make you stronger.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Your empathy deficit is starting to get disturbing. We are talking about actual people, you know. People that died often leaving loved ones in grief. Loved ones that haven’t been able to be near the relative during the quarantine or even be in the same room when they passed. Open your heart a little. It will make you stronger.

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I've been visiting my Mom at the nursing home though a window for weeks now. I can empathize. I have not been able to attend visitations or funerals of several friends over the past several weeks. I have empathy. Part of living is dying and dying is not the worst thing that can happen to a person unless someone has your lack of faith, but total omniscience.

Back into the numbers to find out how the books have been cooked. I'm calling BS on the China Viurs numbers again...

640 died in 230 facilities. That's less than 3 people per facility over a 6 week (?) period. That's probably about normal unless others have died of "natural causes" during that same period. I doubt we'll ever know that number.

My understanding of the report is these are supposed to be directly C-19 related. The numbers were adjusted down to 640 from a number closer to 1,000. I guess after proper autoposies and other analysis was performed previously C-19 reported deaths were removed from that cateogry. But, no, I have not seen any independent reporting/confirmation on any of this. This is just what the LDH (Louisiana Department of Hospitals) is now reporting.

Well, further clarification. Most of the original 1,000 or so (968 was actual number) were not all reported and included in that daily total that posted on the C-19 website. Some of the cases were being "held" pending investigation and determination of the cause of death.

I think we'll see more downward adjustments on the cause of death previously attributed to C-19. Just like we saw in Pennsylvania recently.

I posted two months ago that I wished this was all "much ado about nothing" and that this scare would prove to be overblown. That surely beats the alternative. I'll say the same thing about Dr. Fauci's dire predictions of the Second Wave. I HOPE HE IS DEAD WRONG! Yeah, I know, folks like Goosey et al and the evil anti-American forces are rooting hard for more calamity in a vain hope it will destroy Trump's bid for reelection. I can't help that. They are evil globalist socialists and they are just being consistent with who they are. For me, I have remained firmly rooted in the truth. Taking in all the information being reported and weighing it all against what I do know...

The truth has a way of finding its way into the light...eventually. That should be true of this whole C-19 mess as well.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

I've been visiting my Mom at the nursing home though a window for weeks now. I can empathize. I have not been able to attend visitations or funerals of several friends over the past several weeks. I have empathy. Part of living is dying and dying is not the worst thing that can happen to a person unless someone has your lack of faith, but total omniscience.

Back into the numbers to find out how the books have been cooked. I'm calling BS on the China Viurs numbers again...

640 died in 230 facilities. That's less than 3 people per facility over a 6 week (?) period. That's probably about normal unless others have died of "natural causes" during that same period. I doubt we'll ever know that number.

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We are still in the early innings for cases in facilities outside of NOLA. You will see a spike in the deaths in about 3 weeks.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

I've been visiting my Mom at the nursing home though a window for weeks now. I can empathize. I have not been able to attend visitations or funerals of several friends over the past several weeks. I have empathy. Part of living is dying and dying is not the worst thing that can happen to a person unless someone has your lack of faith, but total omniscience.

Back into the numbers to find out how the books have been cooked. I'm calling BS on the China Viurs numbers again...

640 died in 230 facilities. That's less than 3 people per facility over a 6 week (?) period. That's probably about normal unless others have died of "natural causes" during that same period. I doubt we'll ever know that number.

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It's a fair question. One of the British estimates mentioned about half of the elderly people who die from Covid would likely have died within the year anyway. Doesn't make it any less tragic and doubling the numbers is significant. (Note I'm just going from memory on the British estimate, so that may be a little off).

Pawdawg, have they had cases in your mom’s nursing home?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Pawdawg, have they had cases in your mom’s nursing home?

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Only one worker so far. That was two weeks ago.

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Originally Posted by detltu

It's a fair question. One of the British estimates mentioned about half of the elderly people who die from Covid would likely have died within the year anyway. Doesn't make it any less tragic and doubling the numbers is significant. (Note I'm just going from memory on the British estimate, so that may be a little off).

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The 2017 number for total deaths in Louisiana according to CDC was 45,804 or about 885/week. So that's approximately 5300 over a 6 week period in a normal year. I realize flu season needs to be considered.

Now all we need to know is what the number of total deaths from all causes has been for for the past 6 weeks. IMO, these numbers should be included in ALL statistics we are now seeing. Instead we are getting the indoctrination numbers only and trying to scare the crap out of the sheeple.

Here is some data from 2017.
Deaths in 2017: 647,457 Heart disease
Deaths in 2017: 599,108 Cancer
Deaths in 2017: 169,936 All accidents 40,000 were automotive
Deaths in 2017: 160,201 Respiratory disease
Deaths in 2017: 146,383 Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases
Deaths in 2017: 121,404 Alzheimer’s disease
Deaths in 2017: 83,564 Diabetes
Deaths in 2017: 55,672 Flu and pneumonia
Deaths in 2017: 50,633 Kidney disease
Deaths in 2017: 47,173 Suicide

2,813,503 registered deaths in the United States in 2017 or 234,458 per month.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Only one worker so far. That was two weeks ago.

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Are they testing the residents?

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Originally Posted by tech70

Here is some data from 2017.
Deaths in 2017: 647,457 Heart disease
Deaths in 2017: 599,108 Cancer
Deaths in 2017: 169,936 All accidents 40,000 were automotive
Deaths in 2017: 160,201 Respiratory disease
Deaths in 2017: 146,383 Heart disease
Deaths in 2017: 121,404 Alzheimer’s disease
Deaths in 2017: 83,564 Diabetes
Deaths in 2017: 55,672 Flu and pneumonia
Deaths in 2017: 50,633 Kidney disease
Deaths in 2017: 47,173 Suicide

2,813,503 registered deaths in the United States in 2017 or 234,458 per month.

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I saw this. Interesting that they have heart disease so high when heart disease leads to the respiratory and kidney. It's basically which organ shuts down first...heart, lungs, or kidneys. A broken hip in an elderly male normally leads to one or all of these, but obviously that won't be listed as the cause of death.

I would like for a news network to put up these numbers along with the covid numbers to give them context and to help people get some comfort about the decisions they make going forward until they have a vaccine or effective treatment. This is especially true for those who are at high risk and those who have more than risk factor .
The deaths broken down by age would also be valuable . The Caddo parish breakdown is very enlightening.

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Originally Posted by tech70

The deaths broken down by age would also be valuable .

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They don't want the sheeple to know age or pre-existing. Just male or female. They do go overboard to tell us about young people who get sick. They talked race for a while, but only because they thought they could spin it somehow. When the Black Surgeon General scolded the black community about poor habits, they shut the race discussion down immediately.

Pawdawg, do you know if they are testing all the residents at the nursing home?

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Originally Posted by tech70

Here is some data from 2017.
Deaths in 2017: 647,457 Heart disease
Deaths in 2017: 599,108 Cancer
Deaths in 2017: 169,936 All accidents 40,000 were automotive
Deaths in 2017: 160,201 Respiratory disease
Deaths in 2017: 146,383 Heart disease
Deaths in 2017: 121,404 Alzheimer’s disease
Deaths in 2017: 83,564 Diabetes
Deaths in 2017: 55,672 Flu and pneumonia
Deaths in 2017: 50,633 Kidney disease
Deaths in 2017: 47,173 Suicide

2,813,503 registered deaths in the United States in 2017 or 234,458 per month.

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Wonder why heart disease is listed twice.

I made a labeling mistake on number 6 it should be Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases

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Originally Posted by dawg80

April 29

27,660 cases 1,802 deaths testing rate at 17.7%

1,629 in hosp 244 on vents

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April 30

28,001 cases 1,862 deaths testing rate at 17.4%

1,601 in hosp 231 on vents

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Pawdawg, do you know if they are testing all the residents at the nursing home?

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I don't think so. They have not asked for permission to test. It could be that they only tested the wings/units that this worker was actually in.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

I don't think so. They have not asked for permission to test. It could be that they only tested the wings/units that this worker was actually in.

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That is my understanding - they don’t test until they see symptoms (pulse ox or temperature). Depending on the level of care/Exposure the residents had to the worker maybe they are more conservative in that wing.

It spreads so fast in nursing homes, I am convinced that the testing protocols are not conservative enough there.

Nothing is conservative enough these days. That's why we're in the "chit" we're in.

Seabaugh tries to end the lockdown. As the governor points out we would be the only state in the nation, and it would end federal funding.


https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...64ef59ea9.html

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Originally Posted by The Historian

Seabaugh tries to end the lockdown. As the governor points out we would be the only state in the nation, and it would end federal funding.


https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_ro...64ef59ea9.html

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Shows how powerful the federal guvmint is. They use "loss of federal funding" to control the states. The 10th Amendment might as well not exist.

But, until we get rid of the libtards who bow at the altar of centralized guvmint, and the countless fools who follow them, the reality is states have to play the game under the current rules. There are other games that can be played though, i.e. politics. Louisiana needs to find a compromise position between JBE's draconian edicts and Seabaugh et al demands.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

April 30

28,001 cases 1,862 deaths testing rate at 17.4%

1,601 in hosp 231 on vents

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May 1

28,711 cases 1,927 deaths testing rate at 17.1%

1,607 in hosp 230 on vents

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Originally Posted by dawg80

May 1

28,711 cases 1,927 deaths testing rate at 17.1%

1,607 in hosp 230 on vents

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May 2

29,140 cases 1,950 deaths testing rate at 16.9%

1,545 in hosp 208 on vents

https://www.rustonleader.com/news/li...ath-toll-now-8

Ouachita still adding new cases at a high rate. Hopefully, they can trace the origin of the infections and isolate it.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

https://www.rustonleader.com/news/li...ath-toll-now-8

Ouachita still adding new cases at a high rate. Hopefully, they can trace the origin of the infections and isolate it.

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I hate the way they report information. It's like listening to a baseball game and the only information they give you is the number of pitches thrown (no idea of balls, strikes, hits, runs, etc.).

Would be nice to have some idea other than just a positive test. Was the individual hospitalized, ventilator?

Last two days since the above report showed increase in cases in Ouachita at 24 and 25. Six additional deaths.

Lincoln had 0 and 3 with one new death.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

May 2

29,140 cases 1,950 deaths testing rate at 16.9%

1,545 in hosp 208 on vents

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May 3

29,340 cases 1,969 deaths test rate at 16.7%

1,530 in hosp 213 on vents

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Originally Posted by dawg80

May 3

29,340 cases 1,969 deaths test rate at 16.7%

1,530 in hosp 213 on vents

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May 4

29,673 cases 1,991 deaths 20,316 recovered (68.5%) testing rate at 16.4%

1,502 in hosp 220 on vents

Just heard the 5th death in Natch Parish, C-19 related, is a woman who worked at the local post office. If she did indeed die from the virus, or from complications related to it, which is not confirmed, then wow! I bet it hasn't been 2-3 weeks that I last saw her and spoke to her in the PO while I was sending a certified letter. She was her usual smiling, jovial, and very helpful self that day. Might even have been barely 2 weeks ago... This woman fits some of the high risk demographics who seem most affected by the virus. Heavyset, 50+ age, African American...and no, I don't have any idea about her general health conditions prior. I just know that a couple of weeks ago she was apparently doing just fine.

As I said, her death is rumored to be connected to the virus, but I have not seen confirmation of that.

Regardless, what a terrible loss. Prayers to her family.

I know a 70 year old who is pretty fit. Takes BP and Col meds. He said it was pretty bad for about 7 days. Low grade fever certain times of the day. His wife had it too. She is pretty fit as well and got through it.

I know a 40 year old who is a little heavy, but a big guy so his BMI is not out of wack. He also said it was pretty bad for about 7 days. Nobody else in his house (wife and 3 teenagers) got sick.

Neither one of them lost their sense of taste or smell. Neither had much of an appetite and both lost weight. Not as much as that idiot Chris Cuomo claimed to lose, but a considerable amount for 7 days.

https://opensafely.la.gov/

Oh! businesses have to register and be given permission to open. If you have contributed enough to JBE's coffers, and to the Dem Party, you will be allowed to open. They will send you a placard that has to be displayed showing you have bowed down to total guvmint control and have been granted the privilege to once again enjoy SOME of your Constitutional rights.

Cynic alert!

This has gotten beyond ridiculous. Especially when you consider the number of businesses who have totally ignored all the edicts, without consequence. Local auto dealership has not altered one thing about their operations and have proudly posted pics on Facebook of "happy new customers." The local Smoke & Vape Shop hasn't missed a beat. No drive-thru or curbside service offered. Nope! customers going into the shop just as they always have. Yet! the Chick-Fil-A was shutdown and ticketed because it does not have a drive-thru and customers were going in to place take-out orders, no inside dining was being allowed. Are we to believe the virus is only dangerous in some businesses, but not in others?

"Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither and will have neither." - Benjamin Franklin.

What has happened to our true blue Libertarians!? Certainly none exist on this forum. Ya know...I'm okay with employing some sensible precautions. That's a personal choice I am making. Wearing a mask at times...in public inside places (like Walmart)...doesn't bother me. It doesn't even rise to the level of a minor annoyance. I'm okay with there being sensible distancing precautions too. But, why aren't others, especially those "lockdown" Nazis out there....and man! are they ever out there! screaming about these obvious contradictions!?

A former friend...and yes, I have now placed her in the "former friend" category, has been very vocal on blogs, local Facebook pages, etc...yelling about all this social distancing and lockdown mess. Her husband has COPD and she screams "you idiots are killing him!" just because a family had a picnic on a local lake and shared pics of it on FB. As someone posted, "Hey lady, your husband was not present, and wasn't even invited." This former friend suffers from TDS too and ends every post with "Vote Dem in 2020."

Back to the bigger point...So, why haven't the "lockdown" Nazis been screaming about some of these businesses who have NEVER, not for one minute, adhered to any of the mitigating edicts? The Smoke & Vape Shop? Yeah, there's an essential business for ya! The Party Animals Association in my 'hood have not missed a beat either. They have weekend get-togethers, and sometimes smaller weekday gatherings too, and practice no safety measures at all. Maybe they will prove to be the smart ones ultimately. So far...it looks that way.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

https://opensafely.la.gov/

Back to the bigger point...So, why haven't the "lockdown" Nazis been screaming about some of these businesses who have NEVER, not for one minute, adhered to any of the mitigating edicts? The Smoke & Vape Shop? Yeah, there's an essential business for ya! The Party Animals Association in my 'hood have not missed a beat either. They have weekend get-togethers, and sometimes smaller weekday gatherings too, and practice no safety measures at all. Maybe they will prove to be the smart ones ultimately. So far...it looks that way.

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Good post. The divide on this issues you touched on is as big as the Grand Canyon.

On Saturday morning, around 7 a.m. I was in a Winn-Dixie supermarket in the metro New Orleans area. There are many elderly customers who are shopping early. With perhaps 30 customers in the store about 25 were earning masks. The employees now are also wearing masks.

Then a middle aged man, who was wearing polo shorts and a Nike t-shirt walked into the store with his 10-year old son, acting as if nothing was going on. While everyone else in the store was avoiding one another, he and his son were casually walking past people as they carried on a conversation. When they were checking out, a woman in her 70s, who was wearing a mask, walked behind and berated him. From the self checkout lane about 30 feet away I heard her use the phrase "you irresponsible f------ idiot".

Later in the day I was in the same store to pick up one item. With the store more crowed about 50% of customers were wearing masks. Again, there were whole families in the store, men and women with kids, acting as if nothing was going on. It was interesting to see people dive out of their way.:laugh:

Couples should not be shopping together period. THAT is irresponsible. Masks are not a fool proof. Better one masked shopper than two shoppers wearing masks.

I say this because I see a TON of couples and/or their kiddos out shopping wearing masks like they are just fine.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Couples should not be shopping together period. THAT is irresponsible. Masks are not a fool proof. Better one masked shopper than two shoppers wearing masks.

I say this because I see a TON of couples and/or their kiddos out shopping wearing masks like they are just fine.

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The idiocy is amazing.

They have been advised and asked to only have one person per family in a store. While leaving Albertsons early Sunday morning a family was entering massless and there were 7 of them total counting mother and children. I just shook my head and was glad I was on the way out.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

May 4

29,673 cases 1,991 deaths 20,316 recovered (68.5%) testing rate at 16.4%

1,502 in hosp 220 on vents

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Cinco de Mayo

29,996 cases 2,042 deaths testing rate at 15.9%

1,512 in hosp 194 on vents

Some positive news. Though there is currently no known scientific cure for the disease known as COVID-19, researchers have created an antibody "that neutralizes SARS-CoV-2" in cells, offering the potential for prevention and treatment.


The study notes the antibody, known as 47D11, was created in a lab environment and was able to inhibit the spike protein found in SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, as well as SARS-CoV.

"Our data show that 47D11 neutralizes SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 through a yet unknown mechanism that is different from receptor-binding interference," the researchers wrote in the study. "Alternative mechanisms of coronavirus neutralization by RBD-targeting antibodies have been reported including spike inactivation through antibody-induced destabilization of its prefusion structure17, which may also apply for 47D11."

Louisiana was one of the earliest states to have hotspots in high population areas (New Orleans and Shreveport were early in our state) and thus we are among the 13 states with currently declining numbers of cases and deaths. There are areas in the state where things are still moving up (like where I live in and around Baton Rouge) so we clearly aren't done yet BUT ... If you take the current totals in Louisiana in terms of deaths and apply that to the population of the United States we would be looking at 144k deaths nationwide. I know it is more complicated than that but it isn't much worse than other guesses out there.

(2042/4.649) * 328.2 = 144k

Trumps model which initially bottomed out at 60k was adjusted up once we passed 60k (Apr 29) and it is now saying less than 100k. We are at 72k today, 6 days later after 60k. The trend shows in every western nation with significant numbers that is ahead of us that the numbers come down slowly.
Some states are just getting into a rise in numbers so I don't think we are on a downward trend. Some major cities will see increases and I think a longer slow drop is more likely.
I still think under 100k is too optimistic. I suspect we get there by the 15th. 144k might be high but I think 100k is a low end expectation at this point.

FWIW, 439 deaths per million is the number for Louisiana. We look a bit like Spain, Italy, UK, France etc who have rates between 390 and 550 and are still reporting hundreds of deaths per day.

No daily update yet. They have been consistent with posting updates at noon each day. I smell a rat...

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No daily update yet. They have been consistent with posting updates at noon each day. I smell a rat...

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Probably not enough deaths from other causes in the last 24 hours.

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Cinco de Mayo

29,996 cases 2,042 deaths testing rate at 15.9%

1,512 in hosp 194 on vents

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May 6 (posted at 3:30)

30,399 cases 2,094 deaths test rate at 15.6%

1,465 in hosp 187 on vents

In other news...the Mariner's Restaurant (on Sibley Lake, Natchitoches) is closing for good. Couldn't survive the shutdown. Current owners have had it for 38 years. It's even older than that.

This mess is destroying people's lives.

And, I just remembered, this is where my wife and I had our first date. She asked me out and bought dinner...and drove too. Tch tch, what women expect from ya just because she paid for dinner. Man! :icon_roll:

I hate to hear that I was looking forward to driving down and eating there once this calms down.

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I hate to hear that I was looking forward to driving down and eating there once this calms down.

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Hopefully someone will buy it...

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May 6 (posted at 3:30)

30,399 cases 2,094 deaths test rate at 15.6%

1,465 in hosp 187 on vents

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May 7

30,652 cases 2,135 deaths testing rate at 15.3%

1,432 in hosp 189 on vents

May 8

30,855 cases 2,154 deaths testing rate at 15.2%

1,359 in hosp 185 on vents

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April 4

12,496 cases 409 deaths, 61 of 64 parishes, still, positive testing rate up to 21%.

1,726 hosp 571 vents

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First time I posted using this format. Little over a month ago...

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30,855 cases 2,154 deaths testing rate at 15.2%

1,359 in hosp 185 on vents

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May 9

31,417 cases 2,194 deaths testing rate at 14.8%

1,333 in hosp 165 on vents

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May 9

31,417 cases 2,194 deaths testing rate at 14.8%

1,359 in hosp 185 on vents

Curious, no change in hospitalized and on-ventilator numbers. Is that because there truly is no change, or simply no updated numbers?

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They recently updated it 1,333 hospitalized and 165 on ventilators.

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Thanks...made the changes.

And I understand JBE will announce Monday whether the lockdown ends on the 15th or is extended. Originally the lockdown was justified to prevent our hospitals being overwhelmed. That never happened. So, pat yourselves on the back and declare victory...mission accomplishment. Oh...that's right this was never about actually caring about public health, it was all designed to damage the bad Orange Man!

BTW there's a post making the rounds showing Dr. Evil on the phone with the caption, "They're on to us on this virus hoax...release the killer hornets!"

One thing for sure, you can count on the libs to move the goalposts. They can't hide behind that whole hospital crisis hoax, have to find another excuse.

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31,417 cases 2,194 deaths testing rate at 14.8%

1,333 in hosp 165 on vents

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May 10

31,600 cases 2,213 deaths testing rate at 14.6%

1,324 in hosp 161 on vents

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May 10

31,600 cases 2,213 deaths testing rate at 14.6%

1,324 in hosp 161 on vents


Some slight improvements but not sure how complete the reporting is over the weekend. Monday's numbers should be completely updated for sure.

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How are region 8 and Baton Rouge doing?

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Six of the parishes that comprise Region 8 have a combined 39 cases, no deaths. Two other parishes combined have 105 cases and 10 deaths. The biggie is Monroe (Quachita Parish) with 842 cases, 25 deaths. Not sure how that relates to recent numbers, i.e. the spread, since I haven't been tracking it. Is it getting better? worse? IDK.

BR itself (East BR Parish) has 2,374 cases and 182 deaths. Again, I am not aware of the trend.

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Six of the parishes that comprise Region 8 have a combined 39 cases, no deaths. Two other parishes combined have 105 cases and 10 deaths. The biggie is Monroe (Quachita Parish) with 842 cases, 25 deaths. Not sure how that relates to recent numbers, i.e. the spread, since I haven't been tracking it. Is it getting better? worse? IDK.

BR itself (East BR Parish) has 2,374 cases and 182 deaths. Again, I am not aware of the trend.

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Lincoln has over 100 cases and 11 deaths.

Lincoln is in Region 8? Okay. I didn't verify every parish, nor check to see which were in the region. Just looked at Monroe and NE from there.

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Lincoln is in Region 8? Okay. I didn't verify every parish, nor check to see which were in the region. Just looked at Monroe and NE from there.

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I haven't been tracking Region 8 totally, only Ouachita (data from April 13th on) and Lincoln (data from April 27th and on).

Past week for Ouachita has been the following (date; total to date cases; new cases; 7-day rolling average; and number of deaths):

3-May		770		15	21.14286	22
4-May		785		15	20	22
5-May		793		8	20.28571	22
6-May		806		13	19.28571	24
7-May		814		8	15.42857	25
8-May		820		6	12.85714	25
9-May		836		16	11.57143	25
10-May		842		6	10.28571	25

Lincoln is:

3-May	90		2	2.571429	9
4-May	94		4	2.142857	9
5-May	96		2	2.285714	10
6-May	99		3	2.285714	11
7-May	101		2	2.285714	11
8-May	103		2	2.571429	11
9-May	106		3	2.571429	11
10-May	106		0	2.285714	11

Hard to draw anything from Lincoln since the numbers are so low. I haven't seen where they report hospitalization or ventilator on a parish basis.

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An 11% death rate? You gotta be kidding. Sounds like somebody is cooking the books to feed off the feds.

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An 11% death rate? You gotta be kidding. Sounds like somebody is cooking the books to feed off the feds.

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You think? :laugh: Ouachita especially.

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https://www.rustonleader.com/news/vi...rround-numbers

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https://www.rustonleader.com/news/vi...rround-numbers

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According to that graph, statewide, the state's peak period was (roughly) March 30 thru April 9, and since then it has been "flat" or steady.

Article written by Nancy Bergeon! Well, "Wadies and gentlewen...the Band of Pride!"

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This statement even makes the data more unreliable:

"Each time a person is tested for COVID-19 and the test is positive, the patient gets counted among the confirmed cases. That means if an individual is tested more than once during the course of their illness, and the test comes back positive, the case is counted anew, even though it’s the same individual.At least one patient has shown up multiple times, plus at least two counted in the Lincoln Parish number are not Lincoln Parish residents."

So cases are less, death rate higher? Who knows.

Any guesses on what JBE's reasoning for not opening up this time? I'm going with the not enough contact tracers have been hired excuse.

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Just saw where they will soon have 250 trackers trained and ready, but they will be deployed to the N.O. and B.R. region. JBE wants 700 trackers statewide, and then more, as needed. A Dr. Courtney Phillips said, these trackers might be able to identify folks C-19 positive people have come in contact with, but ultimately it will be up to those folks to self-quarantine. Or, this expensive program will not be effective.

Union Parish is a hot spot -

It is literally exploding

Main two areas are nursing homes (really really bad) and the chicken processing facilities

165 cases and 9 deaths - look for those to increase pretty good this week

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Union Parish is a hot spot -

It is literally exploding

Main two areas are nursing homes (really really bad) and the chicken processing facilities

165 cases and 9 deaths - look for those to increase pretty good this week

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Natch has Pilgrim's Pride chicken plant, but so far, haven't heard about an outbreak there. But, what is it about these meat processing plants that is causing outbreaks? Is it the close proximity of the workers on the line, or something more, like the meat itself?

Yes, the lion's share of cases are occurring in nursing homes and similar adult assisted-living facilities, well, the bulk of the deaths are. I see posts on FB and on blogs of folks wanting the truth! real information. People also want accurate, up-to-date numbers on those previously listed as a case, but who has since recovered. The state has been trying to update those numbers weekly, usually on Monday, so it should come out today. And short of people's names (HIPPA) folks want to see stats on age, sex, race, and where the person was (is) who has died or has it. IDK how possible, how practical, that is. I do know IF the "guvmint" from the White House to governorships to other political office-holders hope to get a hold on the spread of C-19 they had better step up with the communication. Folks who have heretofore been cooperating and would continue to do so, are growing frustrated and demanding more information...real information.

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May 10

31,600 cases 2,213 deaths testing rate at 14.6%

1,324 in hosp 161 on vents

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May 11

31,815 cases 2,242 deaths testing rate at 14.4%

1,310 in hosp 157 on vents

Ooops! forgot this...

22,608 recovered which is 71% of the cases.

Stay at home order to end when the current order expires. Moving to Phase 1 which will expand the number of non-essential businesses that can be open. Those businesses will start at 25% capacity and there will be more guidance on June 1 (to take effect June 5).