11/15 @Marshall Game (Friday Night)

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Originally Posted by techman05

Can someone confirm......

Did Allen find out he would be starting before the end of last week? I heard the positive test was last week and apparently we played JMar and Hardy against UNT because we hadn’t had time to prep Allen at that point.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

If you follow Allen's twitter, you can read into a few of the posts. He seems to have known for a while. Not sure if it's been since last week, but you can tell he knew early.

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Read the NCAA rules. There is an A Test and a B Test. Apparently he failed the A Test before the UNT game but elected to have the B Test used. The B Test probably hit on this past Monday.

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Originally Posted by techman05

Can someone confirm......

Did Allen find out he would be starting before the end of last week? I heard the positive test was last week and apparently we played JMar and Hardy against UNT because we hadn’t had time to prep Allen at that point.

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I magine AA began starter reps Sunday...........

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Originally Posted by techman05

Can someone confirm......

Did Allen find out he would be starting before the end of last week? I heard the positive test was last week and apparently we played JMar and Hardy against UNT because we hadn’t had time to prep Allen at that point.

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Allen knew before the UNT game, which begs the question, if you knew Smith wasn’t going to be able to play this week, why didn’t you play Allen more against UNT. That’s just plain stupid.

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Originally Posted by glm47

Allen knew before the UNT game, which begs the question, if you knew Smith wasn’t going to be able to play this week, why didn’t you play Allen more against UNT. That’s just plain stupid.

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This is confusing me. Why not get him in there for the whole 4th quarter and some of the 3rd? The game was well in hand.

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Originally Posted by techman05

This is confusing me. Why not get him in there for the whole 4th quarter and some of the 3rd? The game was well in hand.

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Skip didn’t want to give Marshall any game film to study on Allen - I guess.

https://youtu.be/q1QMJlAAidQ

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Originally Posted by latech

Skip didn’t want to give Marshall any game film to study on Allen - I guess.

https://youtu.be/q1QMJlAAidQ

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Yeah, but being up 3,4 scores, he could have gotten away with it. Allen needed game speed experience. Don’t chuck your phone out the window or drive you truck off the road listening to the first 2 series. It may be ugly.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Not exactly. I'm sure there are numerous players that smoke (in all sports) and never get caught. It's a gamble, but it's not like everyone is tested all the time. I drive 5 over because I feel like the odds are pretty good that I won't get a ticket. Not sure this is much different.

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Would not some coaches made the suspension for the first 2 games of next year. Seems I have heard of that precedent.

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Originally Posted by techman05

Yeah, but being up 3,4 scores, he could have gotten away with it. Allen needed game speed experience. Don’t chuck your phone out the window or drive you truck off the road listening to the first 2 series. It may be ugly.

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Our practice defense is better than whatever UNT was fielding in the 4th quarter anyway.

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Originally Posted by techman05

Yeah, but being up 3,4 scores, he could have gotten away with it. Allen needed game speed experience. Don’t chuck your phone out the window or drive you truck off the road listening to the first 2 series. It may be ugly.

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Maybe it wasn't known at the time.

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Originally Posted by stodgdog

Would not some coaches made the suspension for the first 2 games of next year. Seems I have heard of that precedent.

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Proud of our staff for not downplaying it. Punish the rock stars so everyone knows they are replaceable.

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Originally Posted by stodgdog

Maybe it wasn't known at the time.

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Or the appeal possibility was still out there.

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Originally Posted by stodgdog

Maybe it wasn't known at the time.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Or the appeal possibility was still out there.

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The A Test was known, but the B Test didn't come in until Monday. I'm sure COYHCSH was hopeful for a negative.:laugh:

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

The A Test was known, but the B Test didn't come in until Monday. I'm sure COYHCSH was hopeful for a negative.:laugh:

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And why wouldn’t he?

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Originally Posted by Tech52

And why wouldn’t he?

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Because both test are collected at the same time.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Because both test are collected at the same time.

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QAQC is mandatory in any test. That is why there is a split sample and certainly the correct procedure.