Well, but that's the LA Tech culture, isn't it? There always seems to be an excuse, an anomaly, or some reason why things didn't work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
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Well, but that's the LA Tech culture, isn't it? There always seems to be an excuse, an anomaly, or some reason why things didn't work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Must be a TX thing too based on hearing all the Cowboys and the Longhorns fans whine.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Generally, I think it refers to >100k in a given county / parish. (And then contiguous counties with that many get lumped into a single MSA.) I'll have to defer to the experts at the US Census Bureau to define the term precisely, but the metro area is usually substantially larger than just the city proper. Of the ones you cite --Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Hattiesburg MSA ~ 140k
Jonesboro MSA ~ 120k
Monroe MSA ~ 175k
Bowling Green MSA ~ 125k
Huntington MSA ~ 285k
These areas may be widely perceived as small towns. But in reality, they're bigger than they let on.
never been to Los Angeles, so I'll take your word for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
You mean like Houston beating New England two nights ago? LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Nice try. But you certainly don't want to start trying to compare Louisiana's successes to Texas'. LOL! Better to save those silly discussions for off season threads anyway.
But, being only 30 miles from Monroe, doesn't Ruston qualify as being in the Monroe "metro" area? I would think so. For comparison purposes, I did a quick look, and Denton, TX is located 38 miles from Dallas, and 34 miles from Ft Worth. Yet, Denton is obviously --and correctly IMO-- considered part of the DFW metro area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
See. LA Tech fans can't even get on the same page for their own name. :argue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Postal abbreviations are used by EllAye Tech Marketing and former journalists who don't know better.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Glad to see you jumped on the Houston bandwagon when the Cowboys caved once again.
A former Clemson player from that team is a dad at my son's school. He said they Clemson players were out partying as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
5 star can go out and party and still dominate. 2 star better be in bed early.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
Distance from the central city is less important than what fills that distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
If it's 30 miles of continuous cul-de-sac subdivisions, Toyota dealerships, SuperTargets, and ChikFilAs, then it's all going to be construed as one metro area. But if it's 30 miles of pine trees and cows, then the metro area will usually end at the county line. The DFW metro covers 11 counties. The Monroe MSA includes two parishes. Not every acre of those areas are what you might call "metropolitan". But the county line is a useful convention for defining a MSA, because it's a line that already exists on every map.
As you know, I've maintained that attendance is only a partial gauge of a community's support for its local college sports program(s). You also have to look at attendance as a function of the surrounding population. MSA is a useful (albeit imperfect, partly for reasons you cite) measure to make this case.
It also shows how programs like UNT, SMU, etc, pale in comparison to schools like Tech, Appy, or Troy in terms of true community participation. That Tech can draw a crowd roughly the same size as UNT, despite having roughly ONE PERCENT of the surrounding population from which to draw that crowd goes to show just how few $hits DFW gives for UNT. (And if Tulane had the same level of community support as Tech, they'd have packed the Superdome every week for 40 years.)
I mentioned it here because Boone came up earlier in the thread, and I've believed for awhile that -- as a G5 located outside of US Census designated metro area -- they are a true peer institution, insofar as athletics are concerned.
Some perspective. For Wyoming, a state with <600k people, Laramie is a metro area being the 3rd largest city in the state with roughly 32k people. Might be more comparable if Tech were located in say Shreveport. Last I saw, UW was averaging 25k per game in attendance, their highest season average ever.
Good information and a fair comparison IMO. North Louisiana is less than 600K and Ruston/Lincoln is close to 32K (I think). Although we are certainly under achieving on our attendance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snaredad
well yeah, but not by nearly as much as a typical $ec fan thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
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Originally Posted by Champ967
Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSA) are defined by commuting flows between counties. The Monroe MSA is comprised of Ouachita Parish and Union. MSAs exceed 50,000 population.
Monroe MSA (Ouachita and Union) – 180,000
Hattiesburg MSA (Forrest, Lamar and Perry) – 149,000
*Why is Union Parish part of the Monroe MSA and not Lincoln Parish? Because Lincoln Parish is a job center itself and sends a lower percentage of its residents to work in Ouachita Parish, therefore is less dependent on Ouachita Parish.
Lincoln Parish and Morehouse Parishes are both individual Micropolitan Statistical Area (µSA) <50K population.
Ruston µSA – 48,000
Lincoln and Morehouse Parishes combine with the Monroe MSA to form the Monroe – Ruston – Bastrop Combined Metropolitan Statistical Area (CMSA). CMSA’s are formed by adjacent MSA and µSA that have some economic ties but lower than the MSA standards.
Monroe – Ruston – Bastrop CMSA – 250,000
Hattiesburg – Laurel CMSA – 253,000
*Washington DC and Baltimore are separate MSA, but combine to form a single CMSA
The Census also defines Urbanized Areas. They represent an area of continuous development. They follow blocks so they can have odd shapes and are much smaller in size than MSA’s, but contain a majority of the population. They do not follow city or county boundaries.
Monroe Urbanized Area – 117,000
Hattiesburg Urbanized Area – 80,000