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Dawgpix
Yeah, I've always wondered where the WorldWideWeb fits into our libel laws when unsubstantiated rumors are published.
Are you refering to a certain Lincoln Parish media outlet's printing a story that Quin Harris has quit the team? :icon_wink:
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Brian96
I think anything in the public forums is fair game, and there are a few morsels that NEED to be rebroadcast in a more mainstream outlet.quote]
Yeah, I've always wondered where the WorldWideWeb fits into our libel laws when unsubstantiated rumors are published.
About a week or two ago, a Florida jury awarded a woman something like 30 million dollars in a suit against another woman over false information she was posting about her on the internet. The woman who lost didn't show up in court, and actually didn't have a lawyer, so I'm not sure what the outcome would have been if she had defender herself, but there is now precedent set. Of course, being the former newspaper person you are, I'm sure you're aware that there is more to libel laws than just publishing unsubstantiated rumors.
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So true.
"Public figure" is one special topic.
"with malice" is the other.
tm
Re: For the fans that have been around a looong time.
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Dawgpix
Yeah, I've always wondered where the WorldWideWeb fits into our libel laws when unsubstantiated rumors are published.
To which "unsubstantiated rumors" do you refer?
Re: For the fans that have been around a looong time.
The handful that have appeared over the last 18 months.
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Dawgpix
The handful that have appeared over the last 18 months.
Huh? We talking jumbotrons here or are we being cryptic?
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stodgdog
Question - What does Tech's athletic budget need to be to get us where we need to go?
That's an incomplete question. It really depends on who will be making decisions on how to spend it as to how much the budget needs to be. If we had someone that was good at marketing, he could take funds and expand them by their use to go further. Forcing your football team to play body bag games to fund all of athletics is a bad idea. It keeps people from attending games when they get disinterested by the lack of effort/poor results and then you need to increase your budget to make up for the loss of those ticket sales, concessions, and CHAMPS donations. Yes. You need to know who's in charge to know what the budget needs to be.
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MICKEYS14
Dirty-the "all is lost attitude" are YOUR words, not mine. I do not believe that all is lost. I DO believe that for GAIN, a whole lot has to CHANGE. Respectfully yours, an "experienced Tech alum."
Thanks for the kind words, but you are in a different league. However, I do believe our love for LOUISIANA TECH causes us to be far more harsh than the casual fan. Those that truly bleed RED&BLUE hurt more when they see their beloved alma mater as close to the outhouse door as it is right now.
Real change requires real change...we must have change at the TAC...and we must have it soon.
BTW, I witnessed Benson's Q&A by the "JOAKES ON US" sign...priceless.
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CARTEK
BTW, I witnessed Benson's Q&A by the "JOAKES ON US" sign...priceless.
OH DO TELL!!! DO TELL!!! DAMNIT!!, I MISSED THAT?!?!
btw... is this Mr. Carter talking, or JO's brother in law??? :laugh:
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MICKEYS14
Dirty-As a more "experienced" Bulldog fan of 49 years, I do have some thoughts about our current situation. Men like DON & MAXIE (CoachDawg) & DAN (CARTEK) & so many others have certainly enjoyed the successes & lamented the failures of our beloved Bulldogs for so many years. As I have said before, Louisiana Polytechnic Institute (what is was when I came in 1959) gave me a CHANCE to have a life & I will NEVER forget Coach Aillet taking a chance on a 145 lb. QB coming out of Bolton HS when no other college of junior college would. Like all others on BB&B, I have a deep, abiding love for our great school.
I DO remember the 5 int.'s that Terry threw in our last game vs. Sout. Miss in 1967 in the State Fair Stadium as we got STOMPED! That game ended a terrible season in my first year of coaching and as I rode the team bus back to Ruston (me & Pat Patterson the only ones on the bus), I wondered if I was really cut out for coaching as I was dumb as a board. I also remember the 5 int.'s Terry threw vs. SE the next year when we managed a win in Hammond. I DO remember Larry Beightol's inglorious 8 games as our HC & there have been many other low spots during all these years including the beatings we absorbed when we were transitioning from 1-AA to 1-A, finally achieving 1-A status on January 20, 1989.
We have had some golden opportunities to really advance our 1-A football program during the almost 17 years since we joined the 1-A ranks. One was right after the season ended with our participation in the Indy Bowl vs. Maryland. We FAILED to do anything to advance our program during a time when interest was at an all-time high. The door opened, we FAILED to step through. Another opportunity lost was during the golden years of Tim Rattay & Troy Edwards & Gary Crowton. Interest in our football program was so intense due to the play of Rattay & Edwards & the innovative, risk-taking, big reward offense of Gary Crowton. Again, we FAILED on every front to take advantage of people, companies, etc. that were so eager to be a part of such a wonderful, entertaining product-Tech Football. Once again, the door opened, we seemed to be content on the administrative level with where we were & what we had, and, Rattay, Edwards, & Crowton left and the DOOR CLOSED. Since that time, with just a brief interval or two of success, we have GONE BACKWARD!
That brings me to your question, Dirty. And, my answer is, in the 47 years of my involvement in & love for the Louisiana Tech Football program, I think we are now in the lowest depth of despair and those in charge just do not seem to care. I do agree that the days of my most personal involvement were different days. I played & coached on a different level. We never had to schedule these games where our chances of winning were NIL. There were no INTERNET GUYS! The level of scrutiny was far less. However, WE HAVE CHOSEN the level we are now competing on. It was US who got us to where we are now. And, in the end, its all relative. APATHY is at an all-time high among our own people regarding our football program and we have noone to blame but US. Will the door open once again to advance our program? If it does, so much must CHANGE!
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MICKEYS14
Under the word CHANGE, here's what I'm talking about. If you look close at our budget for football, I seriously doubt you would see much growth in 2006 dollars compared to 1989 dollars (the year we were granted 1-A status). You would see a growth in total dollars but, allowing for 17 years of inflation, I doubt there is much, if any, REAL GROWTH. That needs to change. Where is the $2million of BCS guarantees going every year? COMMITMENT-does anyone really believe there is a REAL, GENUINE COMMITMENT to growing our D1-A football program. Other than a new turf, new lights, somewhat new fieldhouse addition, weight-room improvements, the TB memorbilia display, ALL PAID FOR by INDIVIDUALS, what has the university done to contribute to needed improvements to enhance our FB program? What COMMITMENT has been displayed to our coaches in furnishing them with all that is needed to run a D1-A program (put aside the argument of who should be doing the coaching)? My God, Damon Harrington needed supplements for his program this year---not in his budget. This is a minor line in ANY D1-A football budget. What did he have to do? Solicit the money himself to pay for the supplements! I realize this is a minor thing but this is prevalent thoroughout the football budget---if you need something, go get it yourself. What REAL COMMITMENT has our university made to our FB coaches? You tell me. IMPORTANT-does anyone really believe that our FB program is IMPORTANT to the men who make the decisions--our administrators--from the top down? If that were the case, would we have left players at home on our plane ride to Nebraska so that non-participants could go? If our program was IMPORTANT, would we continue to schedule like we do and substitute "money-games," another term for "almost sure blowout defeats," instead of getting off our butts & marketing our program, really conducting capital fund drives for our program, really selling our program to corporate sponsors, really running our business LIKE a business, in other words, IMPORTANT enough to treat like a D-1A FB program? Instead, we have about the same staff we had in 1989 doing the same things and all of us are expecting different results? That makes no sense to me.
I could go on & on but you get the point. Before anything happens on the playing field that makes us all proud of a true D1-A football program, a LEGION OF CHANGE is going to have to happen in those administering the football program we have which is as far from being a D1-A football program as it can be, at this point in time.
Coach thanks for the post above and the one immediately before it. You summed everything up quite nicely.
HD
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...I was hoping this would never happen to my school. I've always wanted to see La. Tech football move upward to the next level, I knew back in the 70's and 80's when I was a dedicated fan things were just as frustrating to see the Tech officials drop the ball when the iron was hot. Playing Division II was like eating breakfast, you do it every morning and go on. But Division I is a whole different game.
It gives the school national exposure which make the Alumni proud to see it's merits - but not like this. Tech's at the fork in the road - ....one road has a plan and a vision, the dean and the students get's behind the football program as well as the City of Ruston. Game day becomes an EVENT, businees close - parades and even BIGGER talegates will begin to emerge....OR just go back to playing Division II eating breakfast and go on !
Re: For the fans that have been around a looong time.
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markay714
If we had someone that was good at marketing, he could take funds and expand them by their use to go further. Forcing your football team to play body bag games to fund all of athletics is a bad idea. It keeps people from attending games when they get disinterested by the lack of effort/poor results and then you need to increase your budget to make up for the loss of those ticket sales, concessions, and CHAMPS donations. Yes. You need to know who's in charge to know what the budget needs to be.
Reading this made me think back to the hiring of Mr. Hand. I have nothing against him, do not know him, and wish him all the best. However, a family friend on mine applied for the same job. He has been with Southwestern Bell his entire career. Get this, he is a marketing professional. He was interviewed and called back for contract negotiations. It was relayed to me that he wanted 10-15 thousand more than Joaks was willing to pay. He tried to explain to Joaks that he would bring in many times over the 10 thousand a year more he required to move his family here from Atlanta. Joaks would not play. We now have a biology professor running that part of the program. Makes sence to me, what about you.
