Tech vs TAMU in Shreveport this fall

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Originally Posted by domangue

Illinois and Virginia are technically "money" games by textbook definition. I prefer to use the terminology "body bag" game for the 0-10% you described. I.E. a road game against OU would be a "body bag" game... and I am happy we did not go that route.

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Thanks for the clarification. I think somewhere along the way, though, that some of our posters merged the two, or maybe it was just me. Either way, I still think these are games that we must play to achieve what we seek.

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Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde

Admitting it is the first step

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You dont get to use that insult sloth..Yours is corndog.stick with what got ya to the dance.

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Originally Posted by bluecrew

You dont get to use that insult sloth..Yours is corndog.stick with what got ya to the dance.

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I would have used 'hole, not 'hat.

and you would be correct..Iam an asshole.. Now got get me a baby ruth..."hey you guys...."

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Originally Posted by boxerdog

I thought your argument was fortified by statistical probabilities? If it is more likely that we beat A&M than go undefeated, you are contradicting yourself...

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No. My argument is based on the whole package. Probabilities, risks, rewards, consequences, etc.

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Originally Posted by FriscoDog

Since the BCS has been around, I don't believe that there has ever been a team who has gone undefeated who has not been invited to a BC$ bowl. I'm not 100% sure about this stat but I feel pretty good about it. There have been arguments and instances where undefeated teams have not played in the NC game, but they at least went to a BC$ bowl and got a big paycheck. Strength of Schedule was never a factor as long as team was undefeated. That would make one believe that if Tech went undefeated in 2012 that we would be in a BC$ game. Does playing A&M over Lamar give increase or decrease our chances of running the table?

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The BCS began in 1998. Tulane went undefeated that year. There was no provision for a non-BCS team at the time. The non-BCS guys had great leverage, but settled for scraps and the BCS system was adjusted to a format close to what we have today.

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Originally Posted by maddawg

The BCS began in 1998. Tulane went undefeated that year. There was no provision for a non-BCS team at the time. The non-BCS guys had great leverage, but settled for scraps and the BCS system was adjusted to a format close to what we have today.

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Under the current BCS rules:
- Tulane would have received an auto bid in 1998.
- Marshall would have received an auto bid in 1999.
- TCU would have received an auto bid in 2000.
- Miami (OH) would have received an auto bid in 2003.
- TCU would have recieved an auto bid in 2005.

Everything changed when they added the BCS Championship Game in 2006.

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

Under the current BCS rules:
- Tulane would have received an auto bid in 1998.
- Marshall would have received an auto bid in 1999.
- TCU would have received an auto bid in 2000.
- Miami (OH) would have received an auto bid in 2003.
- TCU would have recieved an auto bid in 2005.

Everything changed when they added the BCS Championship Game in 2006.

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It was tweaked at least one time prior to 2006 wasn't it? Save me the lookup. What happened to TCU in '05? When did Utah bust the BCS?

Utah busted the BCS in 2004.

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Originally Posted by maddawg

It was tweaked at least one time prior to 2006 wasn't it? Save me the lookup. What happened to TCU in '05? When did Utah bust the BCS?

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Utah won the Fiesta Bowl during the 2004 season.

I'm not sure about TCU in 2005 or when the BCS rules were tweaked.

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

Utah won the Fiesta Bowl during the 2004 season.

I'm not sure about TCU in 2005 or when the BCS rules were tweaked.

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I'll have to look it up. I know the Tulane deal caused the first tweak, but it was still almost impossible for a non-AQ to get in. It believe it was changed again prior to Utah getting in.

I think the problem with TCU was that the Top 14, above AQ conference champion rule not being in place and there being only four games. Because of that, 2 Big 10 teams and 1 from PAC 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12, and Big East got in, along with Notre Dame at large. Probably, if Notre Dame didn't have such a good season, TCU would have gotten the at-large (not likely). But since Florida St. was the ACC champion but unranked and because Notre Dame got in, there was no spot for TCU. Which, leads back to the rule of being in the Top 14 and above AQ conference champion.

Other than Florida St. not being ranked getting in over TCU, it was pretty fair as all other teams were ahead of TCU.

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Originally Posted by JuBru

I think the problem with TCU was that the Top 14, above AQ conference champion rule not being in place and there being only four games. Because of that, 2 Big 10 teams and 1 from PAC 10, ACC, SEC, Big 12, and Big East got in, along with Notre Dame at large. Probably, if Notre Dame didn't have such a good season, TCU would have gotten the at-large (not likely). But since Florida St. was the ACC champion but unranked and because Notre Dame got in, there was no spot for TCU. Which, leads back to the rule of being in the Top 14 and above AQ conference champion.

Other than Florida St. not being ranked getting in over TCU, it was pretty fair as all other teams were ahead of TCU.

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So 2005 was one of the few ND appearances? Yeah, that had to hurt, but also TCU had a loss that year vs. SMU in week 2. They had barely worked their way back to #14.

TCU went 18, 18, 14, 13, 14, 14 in the BCS polls before the bids went out. SMU didn't hurt them so much as everyone else having good seasons too and AQ and Notre Dame bias.

I think Florida St. being unranked getting in what really hurt them, more so than Notre Dame. ND was ranked higher at 6 to TCU's 14.

I figured it out.

Notre Dame's bid was automatic because of the Notre Dame rule, which says they get an auto bid if they finish in the Top 8.

Ohio State got an auto bid because of the 3-4 rule, which guaranteed 3rd and 4th place teams a BCS bowl bid.

There were only 4 BCS bowls that year, so there was no room for TCU or any at-large teams.