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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

Nope. I'll see if I can find it again.


Edit: there are several. Here is one. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/reporter-...inton-meeting/

Then there's this... http://nypost.com/2016/10/03/book-de...hillary-skate/. But I admit the NYPost isn't the most unbiased of sources...but what is these days?

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Yeah, Christopher Sign appears to be the guy that broke the story, but he didn't originally report the "no photos..." bit. Wonder why he didn't. Seems important.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

I find it very suspicious that they wanted the meeting kept secret and, the explanation of what was said when asked, and how it was stated, seemed like lies to me. But I have no idea other than what was said. It just looked bad. they could have discussed Brexit golf and grandchildren for 45 minutes on a phone call. It was a stupid move if that's all they talked about...and they aren't stupid. why the need for the attempted secrecy? Why take a chance? I believe there was a reason. But I should just take their word for it?

How do you feel about it?

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Who says that Bill Clinton isn't stupid? Kinda of hard to have a 45 minute "secret" meeting on board the FBI Director's airplane sitting on the tarmac. I tend to deeply, deeply discount any report that they would try to keep the meeting a secret since it was known by so many people at the time. I do think that Bill Clinton planned the "accidental" meeting and Lynch was played.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Who says that Bill Clinton isn't stupid? Kinda of hard to have a 45 minute "secret" meeting on board the FBI Director's airplane sitting on the tarmac. I tend to deeply, deeply discount any report that they would try to keep the meeting a secret since it was known by so many people at the time. I do think that Bill Clinton planned the "accidental" meeting and Lynch was played.

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I think those around them wanted it to go unreported because they knew it would look terrible...thus the secrecy idea, probably taken out of context.

The point though, is that why don't democrats want that investigated for obstruction? If Clinton had planned it and Lynch was played, which I also believe, can't that possibly be construed as obstruction? Bill didn't have to literally discuss it with her in order to make his point clear. And, Bill kinda has a history of lying. Lynch's testimony was ridiculous. So I'm not sure I'd believe them if I were you.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

I think those around them wanted it to go unreported because they knew it would look terrible...thus the secrecy idea, probably taken out of context.

The point though, is that why don't democrats want that investigated for obstruction? If Clinton had planned it and Lynch was played, which I also believe, can't that possibly be construed as obstruction? Bill didn't have to literally discuss it with her in order to make his point clear. And, Bill kinda has a history of lying.

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Because Bill Clinton never talked about the email investigation. That his purpose was to influence Lynch is well understood but that isn't obstruction of justice. Remember, Trump talked to Comey about the Flynn investigation, that Flynn was a "good guy" and to take it easy on him.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Because Bill Clinton never talked about the email investigation. That his purpose was to influence Lynch is well understood but that isn't obstruction of justice. Remember, Trump talked to Comey about the Flynn investigation, that Flynn was a "good guy" and to take it easy on him.

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But how do you know he didnt? Because they said so?

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

But how do you know he didnt? Because they said so?

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There is zero evidence that they talked about it.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

There is zero evidence that they talked about it.

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That doesn't mean they didn't. Just because you have no evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There is no evidence Trump colluded with Russia either. There is no evidence that Trump has broken any law.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

That doesn't mean they didn't. Just because you have no evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There is no evidence Trump colluded with Russia either. There is no evidence that Trump has broken any law.

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They are not just looking at whether Trump colluded. In fact, they haven't even to my knowledge said he is a target.

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Because Bill Clinton never talked about the email investigation. That his purpose was to influence Lynch is well understood but that isn't obstruction of justice. Remember, Trump talked to Comey about the Flynn investigation, that Flynn was a "good guy" and to take it easy on him.

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As far as obstruction of justice goes, we would need to know more about what happened on the plane - did Bill bribe or intimidate Lynch?

Here are the offenses that are obstruction of justice. Which do you think fits the tarmac meeting?

https://www.justice.gov/usam/crimina...stice-offenses

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Originally Posted by saltydawg

Because Bill Clinton never talked about the email investigation. That his purpose was to influence Lynch is well understood but that isn't obstruction of justice. Remember, Trump talked to Comey about the Flynn investigation, that Flynn was a "good guy" and to take it easy on him.

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Do we know that now?

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Originally Posted by detltu

Do we know that now?

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Supposedly, that is what Comey wrote in a memo shortly after his meeting with Trump.

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Originally Posted by RhythmDawg

That doesn't mean they didn't. Just because you have no evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There is no evidence Trump colluded with Russia either. There is no evidence that Trump has broken any law.

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Right. There is no evidence that Trump has broken any law YET. Did you ever see the movie Charley Varrick where the bank manager is shuffling his feet in front of the bag contain the mob money?

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Finally having the respect of our allies and some enemies other than North Korea and Iran is a problem for you?

You don't agree with CNN that his recent tour has been a success?

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That must be the FoxNews account. Our allies disagree.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/po.../idUSKBN18Q138

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

That must be the FoxNews account. Our allies disagree.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/po.../idUSKBN18Q138

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She is upset because Trump called them out. Germany is important because?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

They are not just looking at whether Trump colluded. In fact, they haven't even to my knowledge said he is a target.

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Liberals are, and do. That's the point.