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Houston and Dallas are particularly bad (Houston has the biggest outbreak now) but our cities aren’t allowed to impose anything stricter than what the state imposed - Abbott’s order was explicit in this regard and overruled any mask requirements that Houston had already imposed.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Blue cities is just a coincidence I’m sure. Abbott’s fault...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Big cities period. They have been legally hamstrung from doing anything about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Of course. The blue cities have the leadership in place, but "the man" in Austin is holding them back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
How has Abbott done with nursing homes compared to that idiot John Bel Obama?
We have nursing homes with over 100 cases, so not good. No one has been able to stop this problem because workers are the ones bringing it into the homes.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Abbott’s executive order is literally holding back the cities and counties from imposing any restrictive measures to control the spread of the outbreak.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tex...ronavirus/amp/
Usually, when a law is passed, or there is some executive order, it sets the minimum requirement, but does not prevent those governmental entities below it: Federal > State > Local from instigating more requirements or stricter policies. For instance, on US highways, the Federal government set a max speed limit of 55 during the oil crisis in the 1970's. But, if a state wanted their interstate highways to have a 50 mph limit that was perfectly okay with the Feds. What states could not do was violate the 55 limit and set 60 mph.
In this case, why can't the City of Houston take Gov. Abbott's policy and "add to it"?
He said The non-enforcement of mask wearing is the problem.
He explicitly overruled them from doing so in his executive order.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kvu...8-c6c82da53e38Quote:
“All the counties in the State of Texas are required to follow that order and no county can issue an order contrary to the executive order that I issued yesterday,” Gov. Abbott said in an interview with KVUE Political Anchor Ashley Goudeau on Tuesday.
According to the executive order, the State rules overrule local ones if the local order:
Restricts essential or reopened services
Allows gatherings prohibited by the executive order
Expands the list of essential services or the list or scope of reopened services
It is a BS Trumpian overreach, but he owns this whole mess in TX now.Quote:
“My executive order, it supersedes local orders, with regard to any type of fine or penalty for anyone not wearing a mask,” he added.
HOU was being responsible, mandating masks and cancelled our Livestock Rodeo that draws huge crowds (which was at the same time as Mardi Gras). That helped.
Then Abbott came in and undid what the local governments were doing to protect their citizens. It is ridiculous.
Mardi Gras ended on Feb 25, based upon my understanding the Livestock Rodeo was cancelled on March 11th (and started Feb 25). Please don't try to equate the two as two weeks in a pandemic is a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I think the livestock show began in early March and is normally a three week event that includes the rodeo. Your point stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue
We had some spread from the chili cook off part in February and that is what caused the cancellation of the rest of the Rodeo on the 11th. The chili cook off part is a little different but draws a huge crowd as well. Two weeks does make a big difference. We fortunately had some insight from the Mardi Gras experience to understand how big the risk was to continue. Had we proceeded with the Rodeo this could have gotten much worse much sooner.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue
January 25, not February. NOBODY was worried late JanuaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I agree that we did not think it was in our communities on January 25.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Local leadership continued to allow the Rockets to play basketball 1/31 through 3/10. Ten games in Houston.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The huge baseball round robin was in Houston on opening weekend. February 14.
NOTHING that happened prior to the second week in March was enough to shut the world down.
We knew we had community spread in parts of the country by the end of February. I personally thought that the restrictions should have began earlier in Houston that first week of March (at least a week earlier than they did). I had already loaded up on groceries by that point and was already avoiding exposure. I agree that local leadership was too slow to respond to COVID. We got lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
I will remind you for the hundredth time - what should have been happening up to that second week of March was widespread testing. Hotspots (as determined by testing) might require local restrictions.