Told ya it would be the Trump supporters complaining about to few deaths to justify the actions taken! Easiest prognostication I have ever made!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
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Told ya it would be the Trump supporters complaining about to few deaths to justify the actions taken! Easiest prognostication I have ever made!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Nah, many of us were calling BS on the models day one. Many of us told you that only those with preexisting conditions were in danger of dying. Turns out to be true with very few exceptions. 98% survival rate and we shut down an economy over it. Looks like it was indeed in California back in December and the reason California was never in the kind of danger New York was in. Yes, I'm sure density had something to do with it, but density does not explain it all. I predict we'll find out that thousands were/are asymptomatic, had it, and never knew it. We will know soon enough when those rapid test "roll out".Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Gawd you are stupid! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The reason there are "few" deaths is the great job Trump has done from the very beginning. Later YOU will say there were too many deaths. Yet, here it is for all to see forever, you admitting "too few deaths...".
Now, that's your viewpoint. While I think, Trump and everyone else, including Dem governors in the states hit the hardest...yeah, uh huh...did and have done the best they could have given this is a brand new virus and the Chicoms, propped up by WHO, lied! I still think too many Americans have died. Mostly because WHO failed us, and the world, and that should not be tolerated anymore.
I am with you 100% on this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Told you, techman05. It was always gonna be the Trumphards that weren’t gonna be satisfied by the body count, and all the bodies haven’t even been counted yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Did Trump really just say, "When somebody is the president of the United States, the authority is total"?
When you have a Senate unwilling to uphold their duty and that will give you a pass for everything, it is basically true.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Imagine all the explodes heads if Obama had said the same!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
OK Mr Know It All (you went to Whatsamatta U, right?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Actually you can find my posts earlier that say just what I just said. Unlike you who say that idiot populists blame everyone else for their issues and should do something different, but author a thread called "Systemic racism" and argue for blaming everything and everyone else for everything (while agreeing that segments of the population should be given a pittance to pacify them from ever being economic equals).
Like most narcissists, you live in an echo chamber filled with your own voice and not much else (well, except the talking points you get from "news" outlets like VOX).
I believe he was speaking in relation to the national emergency because of the virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
As for me, I have been amazed at how easily people have given up their freedoms in the name of this "emergency". Governors have overstepped their boundaries and the feds have overstepped their boundaries (though not as far). This authoritarianism in the name of safety was made possible by the over-reaction to 9-11 that we continue to suffer through today. At least it doesn't APPEAR that Trump will leave the same kinds of BOMBS that the idiot Bush left after that episode.
Our founding fathers would be disgusted at what we've given up.
I am not a populist, but I made the bootstrap reference to show that Trump supporters are doing the same thing that they claim minorities do - blame someone else for their problems and look for the government to solve them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Systemic racism is a real thing. The economic opportunity divide between the coasts and flyover country is as well (do you guys realize that you can go work for Big Tech on the West Coast and get paid over $200k a year without a college degree?).
Us, non-populists understand their are ways to address these issues that don’t rely on typical populists tactics of vilifying a group of some “others” in order to make society better.
I am not here trying to bend a political system to benefit me - I am just trying to make it more functional and reasonable to those that are getting left behind.
LOLOLOLOL Was Obama a populist? You do realize that your definition of populist is also the definition of a community organizer, right? "Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
vilifying a group of some “others” in order to make society better." In his case, he used race.
Oh, and who are you vilifying right now? Oh yeah, the evil Trump supporters (deplorable populists) and Trump. YOU, by your definition, are the populist. He is your straw man.
Your Big Tech salary differential is pretty irrelevant, too. Hmmm, how much of that salary goes to taxes and the higher cost of living on the West Coast? That salary might make you comfortable in Texas (or Louisiana or Tennessee), but out there not so much. The average price of a house in SF is over $1000 a square foot.
Maybe you missed my Epic Obama thread. I was no fan. Maybe his biggest critic here, until Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Those salaries in Big Tech also are in Washington, where there is no state income tax and cost of living is lower than SF, though higher than metropolitan South. Also, that salary doesn’t include stock benefits in companies that have outperformed the market. What does flyover county offer for people that don’t go to college?
Normalcy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Just went and looked around for one of those $200K big tech jobs for high school grads and came up empty. Silly for me to just accept your statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Unless you are taking an average, and including Bill Gates in there (a college dropout). If so, I can see why data science was listed as just a "hobby" of yours.
Regarding restraint of interstate commerce by a group of state governors in a national emergency situation, the president's authority is total compared to what those state governors have.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
It could be argued that a state governor has authority over commerce within their own state, but when a group of governors start colluding that argument goes out the window.
You really think a group of democrat governors would team up to help Nancy and Chuck over what Trump's soon to be announced team recommends? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
He hasn't have announced his team(s) or plans yet, but he is being accused of taking a leadership roll. Imagine that! Let's see now...do I want somebody who has the best advisers and has had the real decision making experience or a bunch of governors who think abortion clinics are essential businesses and more taxes is ALWAYS the answer to their poor management.
If he has total authority now he had the authority to do something back at the beginning of March (even though he acted like he couldn’t and Republicans rallied around him respecting states rights then).Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
At least you're 100% consistent....WRONG AGAIN!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That is because you are a boomer that doesn’t know what you are doing. If you want to find the higher pay (and not your garden variety $130k-150k programmer job) you have to go to the jobs in these companies where the demand and value is - the jobs that build the productivity software that makes fewer jobs needed in flyover country. Cloud, analytics, AIQuote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
I know this for a fact and you can take it to the bank. Or you can look it up on zip recruiter.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salarie...chitect-Salary
8% of these jobs pay in the range, and you can click through to confirm no education requirement.
Once you collect a couple AWS certifications (taking a few years) - you can get this job, with even higher percentile being over 200k.
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salarie...ssional-Salary
This took me only a couple minutes to find...
You're a genius (self proclaimed).Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Here is some of the verbiage from these jobs (I don't know why I waste my time, because I really don't care how much people make on the west coast):
"Technical degree required; Computer Science or Math background highly desired"
"A Bachelor?s Degree in Computer Science, Engineering or a related field (or equivalent)"
The knowledge required for most of these positions involves more schooling and experience than most people will have the ability to develop. And even then, the TOP salary is in the range you posted (the top range is similar everywhere else, too...not just the west coast, but the "flyover" country as well).
If you think these are jobs for your average high school graduate, you are terribly mistaken. How do I know? I worked in the IT field for about 20 years.
Oh, and I know some folks without college degrees that make over $250K in the oil industry right there in your state. I'm just not going to try and say that's the typical experience.
You really aren’t very good at the Internet are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/Salarie...ssional-SalaryQuote:
How to Become an AWS Solution Architect
There are no education requirements to become an Amazon Web Services (AWS) solution architect. Many AWS solution architect jobs only require an AWS solution architect certification, but a bachelor’s degree in computer science or a related field would provide you a basic understanding of cloud-based solutions. Study cloud-based development data management and storage, mobile technologies, and most importantly, the AWS platform itself to become familiar with what it can and how it is utilized. Pass the AWS associate exam to prove your cloud framework design abilities and become certified to work on the AWS system. You should be proficient with at least one operating system, such as Linux or Unix, and have a solid understanding of networking and cloud security. Seek an entry-level position and learn from senior developers to gain the skills that will help you fulfill your duties in this position.
Actually, I know non-grads with 3 years experience making more than the top of the limits that I posted. And they get to sleep in their own beds every night.
Is that typical? No, but isn’t unusual either. And within 75% of what they make is extremely common and within reach of most non-grad programmers, especially now, for those working in the key areas I mentioned.
Well, I still have no idea what Trump was really saying here. If he was talking about usurping the rights of the states, then he is sadly mistaken and needs another advisor. He can lift the national emergency, but he cannot tell the governors what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Heck, I almost hope he tries to use this imaginary authority so it can go through the courts and stop this ugly expansion of the power of the federal government. Kinda nice to see dems on the states rights side of things (until there is a dem in the Whitehouse that wants to push the dem agenda, that is). There are lots of things I'd like to see revisited where the feds overstepped their constitutional duties.
I agree...the Fed guvmint needs to be reeled in. Unfortunately the libs, the Dems, don't want it reeled in, they want to expand federal control. Oh, right now with a Repub in the WH, especially this one, they will pay it lip service and do some temporary things, but just wait til the next obummer-type is in there. All pretense will be gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
The poor ole bastardized 10th Amendment....
He was saying what he was thinking before he thought about it. :) He does this a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Seriously, I think he envisions all the governors working together with he and his advisers to come up with a plan of action that will vary depending on the situation(s).
The media is too freekin' stupid to envision anything other than getting rid of Trump and trying to goad him. They goaded him into saying something he didn't mean to say. Once he said it, he didn't want to back down. That's who he is.
Plenary power exists for president Trump now that we have a national disaster in every state and it’s pretty much king like. He’s not going crazy but he could send the Army into a state to enforce a shutdown if he felt the need to to protect the citizens from the stupidity of a governor.
Which is one thing, but he is talking about forcing states to open for business. Which is kind of the opposite of the emergency.Quote:
Originally Posted by tech70
For the record I think the administration needs to tread lightly on the whole issue of reopening anything. The WH had better work closely with the states, all states/governors, and maintain a VERY transparent, daily communication with the populace. Even to the point of being aggravatingly redundant. Such as in a press conference, some time down the road:
"Okay, we have been in communication with the governors of ______, _______, ______ states and here's where we are. They want to relax lockdowns and allow folks to return to work, under the following conditions: ______________. We told them if they absolutely follow those standards, to the letter, monitor it closely, and are prepared to act quickly to close down any business violating the policy, then, yes, as of this date: _________, we think the governors of ________, _________, _______ can try it. So on...
Anything less, and if something goes amiss, Trump will get blamed, even though it would be the states doing it and taking responsibility for managing it.
As my wife says, funny "the states" fussed because Trump did not tell them they should shut down. Mr. President, you should have ORDERED us to lockdown...it's all your fault. But now, Mr. President, you can't ORDER us not to reopen!
Your wife has a keen mind and is blessed with a good memory.
Trump can’t manage nuance. He created chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Not surprised. Small man.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
And another great move by Trump!!
Yes!! WTG Trump!
Published 4 hours ago
Update 1 hour ago
Trump announces US will halt funding to World Health Organization over coronavirus response.
President Trump announced at the White House coronavirus news briefing in the Rose Garden on Tuesday that the United States will immediately halt all funding for the World Health Organization (WHO), saying it had put "political correctness over lifesaving measures."
Also at the briefing, the president said plans to ease the national economic shutdown were being finalized, and that he would be "authorizing governors to reopen their states to reopen as they see fit." At the same time, Trump made clear that he was not going to put "any pressure" on governors to reopen.
Trump read a long list of names of people in business, health care and sports who will advise him on how to restart the economy. "We have to get our sports back," Trump remarked. "I'm tired of watching baseball games that are 14 years old."
In the meantime, Trump declared that the United States would undertake a 60-to-90 day investigation into why the "China-centric" WHO had caused "so much death" by "severely mismanaging and covering up" the coronavirus' spread, including by making the "disastrous" decision to oppose travel restrictions on China.
The United States is the WHO's largest single donor, and the State Department had previously planned to provide the agency $893 million in the current two-year funding period. Trump said the United States contributes roughly $400 to $500 million per year to WHO, while China offers only about $40 million. The money saved will go to areas that "most need it," Trump asserted.
CALIFORNIA'S NEWSOM OUTLINES PLAN TO LOOSEN STAY-AT-HOME ORDERS
"We have deep concerns over whether America's generosity has been put to the best use possible," Trump said, accusing the WHO of failing to adequately keep the international community apprised of the threat of the coronavirus.
"The WHO failed in this duty, and must be held accountable," Trump went on. He added that the WHO had ignored "credible information" in December 2019 that the virus could be transmitted from human to human.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...ion-who-halted
This is going to be painful to audit.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Really, Trump did the same thing as the WHO. Shouldn’t he be deserve the same scrutiny for accepting their word and promoting Chinese version of what was going on?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Trump (Jan 24) - China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!
Trump (February 7) “Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days. Nothing is easy, but he will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone. Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!"
Trump (Feb 10) “I think China is very, you know, professionally run in the sense that they have everything under control," Trump said. "I really believe they are going to have it under control fairly soon. You know in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that's a beautiful date to look forward to. But China I can tell you is working very hard."
Trump (Feb 13) "Well, you never know. I think they want to put the best face on it. So you know, I mean, if somebody -- if you were running it, you'd probably -- you wouldn't want to run out to the world and go crazy and start saying whatever it is because you don't want to create a panic," he said. "But, no, I think they've handled it professionally and I think they're extremely capable and I think President Xi is extremely capable and I hope that it's going to be resolved."
So, when you think about it. Trump actually did much worse than the WHO. And defunding the WHO during a pandemic seems to be cutting off your nose to spite your face.
But you guys did elect a chaos president rather than an effective leader.
Hillary the effective leader. Good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Sorry but it’s the socialist Dems that have public ally stated “don’t let a crisis go to waste” as they love chaos and use it politically to create more chaos. Truth is they are just incompetent leaders of any form of government and so many the same of their personal lives to boot. Just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
So true! And as a Constitutionalist, I love it!
Unlike Bush and Obama, Trump Succeeded in Crisis by Decentralizing Power
Christopher DeMuth of the Hudson Institute argues in the Wall Street Journal this weekend that President Donald Trump has made history by decentralizing power during a crisis, unlike his predecessors, who used crisis to build a bigger government.
DeMuth points out that Trump has empowered state and local governments, while enlisting the help of the private sector and cutting red tape. He has asserted federal prerogatives, but mostly as a way of keeping people in line — not abusing his power.
Contrary to claims that the federal government mismanaged the early stages of the crisis — in testing, for example — DeMuth notes that departments like the FDA did exactly what they were supposed to, until Trump intervened to reduce regulations.
He writes:
Throughout history, national emergencies have led to a more powerful and centralized federal government and to the transfer of federal power from Congress to the executive branch. This time, the federal response rests largely on state and local government and private enterprise, with a wave of deregulation clearing the way. The Trump administration has seized no new powers, and Congress has stayed energetically in the game.
…
In response to the 9/11 attacks, the Bush administration and Congress created two gigantic agencies with extraordinary powers and insulation from congressional control, the Department of Homeland Security and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence … In response to the 2008 crisis, the [Obama] administration arranged corporate mergers and bailouts with only fig leaves of statutory authority. It spent hundreds of billions of dollars without congressional appropriation. These crisis expedients provided the template for the Obama administration’s unilateral responses to mere political frustrations—congressional inaction on its climate change, immigration and other legislative proposals. At the same time, the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010 commissioned an army of new regulatory authorities with unprecedented discretion and autonomy.
…
Mr. Trump has received criticism from all sides for these measured responses. … But mainly he has given pride of place to federalism and private enterprise—lauding the patriotism and proficiency of our fantastic governors and mayors, our incredible business leaders and genius companies, our heroic doctors and nurses and orderlies, and our tremendous truckers. By shouting out many of them by name and documenting their deeds on a daily basis, he has vivified the American way in action (once reluctantly aroused). When asked why he has not issued orders for nationwide home and business lockdowns, he has emphasized that the intensity of the epidemic varies widely and is best met by calibrated state and local judgments—and added pointedly that such steps would conflict with the Constitution.
DeMuth adds that the recent dustup over Trump claiming he had “total” authority to reopen the national economy — after stating, for weeks, that states had primary authority — was typical “jousting” over the federal and state “division of labor.”
He adds that the challenge for reformers will be to seize on the present deregulations and decentralizations — in telemedicine, for example — and use them to spur a wave of innovation that will benefit all Americans when the coronavirus is long past.
Read his full Wall Street Journal article here.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...alizing-power/
Except that this has been the opposite of success. We still don’t have near enough testing to reopen.
Yep, drain the swamp!Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Treated. Worse. Than. Lincoln.
😂
He really is the “victim” President.
Lincoln deserved the criticism, Trump does not.
Greatness!:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
This Brit nails it:
https://coming42.livejournal.com/479...6zSpTPVkaT_Y_Q
Breaking News: Justice Dept drops all charges against Flynn.
Julie Pace @jpaceDC
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BREAKING......WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Department is dropping criminal case against ex-Trump adviser Flynn, according to court filing obtained by AP.
Barr is nothing more than a bagman for Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Goosey said something bad about true American patriots...I'm shocked, shocked! I tell ya!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Remember when Eric Holder said " I'm Obama's wingman"?? I remember.. I don't remember you having any issues with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Seems the "conservatives" have come to celebrate what they used to rail against.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
No just again.. pointing out the hypocrisy...
Then you just forgot.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Well, I'll let Guiss comment on what he thought of Holder. He is the guy who started the thread about Obama being the worst President ever...though I think he might revise that statement now.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
There is no way I could have ever predicted that Americans would ever do something as stupid as electing a person like Trump.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Might want to be prepared for another 4 years. Biden does not look mentally capable of handling the job as POTUS. Nothing personal against Biden, honestly, but he doesn't look like he can last. The second problem is that whomever he picks as his running mate, Biden has boxed himself into a corner that he has very few choices, that many moderate democrats would vote for IMO.
Trump isn’t mentally capable either. Hope Biden picks Stacy Abrams.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
It’s so refreshing that Guiss, aka Hamilton Berger, and Johnny Lightweight have come out of the closet and are proudly wearing the far-left label.
I am independent and could vote for either party, it is just that the current Republicans band of idiots are a threat to America.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
LMFAO! I almost spit out my bourbon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Yea, and pigs fly.
And the fact that Biden and Stacy Abrams are both devout libertarians.:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
What an incredibly sick burn!Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Yeah, they love me on the far left. I believe in fiscal responsibility, the free markets, and am a lifetime pro-lifer...Yes, I'm so far to the left that I've found myself on Trump's right. I did recently leave the republican party, but not before they left me. I was a member back when they at least gave lip service to debt, deficits, and character. Now it's the victim party that can't quit crying about the media long enough to lead. Oh well.
And no, I won't be voting for Biden. You don't have to be a leftist to see that Trump is unfit for office.
Oh, yes you do. And a screaming one at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Did you leave after that family values guy (Larry Craig-R) was playing footsie at the rest stop with an undercover policeman? Can't blame you.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Nah, I waited until the hypocrisy made it to the official party platform. I suppose I was naive. You live and learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Serious question- who was the last president that was fit to be president?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
How about last person fit to be Speaker of the House?
I left when they pushed John McCain as their standard bearer. Romney confirmed my decision. I should have left during the second term of Bush 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
If these are Republicans, I don't want to be one! All full of crap!
They were all elected, so they were all fit to hold the office. Some were real pieces of you-know-what, but only Guisslapp gets to decide all by himself who deserves the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
The last best Speaker to me was Newt. While he could be called an establishment Republican.. he sees that the tide has changed. What has disappointed me most is that G.W. Bush was more of a old school blue dog democrat than republican.. I guess that's how much things have shifted in last few years.. I used to think Bill Kristol was a conservative.. He is just part of the establishment uniparty. Paul Ryan, John Boehner, Flake, Romney are all uniparty Rinos..
To bad there isn’t a lower term for Flake he has certainly earned any applied to him and then some.
Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
But, while Trump leaves something to be desired in his personal choices he is doing a great job as POTUS. I have said something similar of Bill Clinton. Billy Boy is a scoundrel and worse! he committed treasonous acts re: the sale of missile technology to the Chicoms and that whole Pacific fiber optic line scandal. But, the truth is, the economy was great on his watch. I didn't vote for him either time, and I didn't like how he disrespected the office, but facts are facts, he did well for the economy. Now, Trump is in the same vein. One can readily dislike him personally but if honest have to say, he's doing great things for our country. He is.
Depends on how you define fit. According to Frisco, it looks like fit involves "fighting back" (I'm assuming here as he is most disappointed in GWB, but it must not be because of overspending as he seems to support Trump who's far worse on that count). Bush was an honorable man who I vehemently disagreed with regarding government spending. Now, much of that revolved around the war. I think the Iraq war has a lot of hindsight 20/20 going on. We debated for months while Hussein was making sure we wouldn't find anything once we got in.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Of course, your question is just whataboutism. It doesn't defend Trump's fitness, just tries to point out that nobody is fit. Maybe you're right. If you are, you're proving my point. We continue to vote for these "lesser of two evils" candidates and we keep getting evil options. No thanks. I'm out.
I agree with what you said about Bush with his spending. I don't like Trump's spending either, I don't think he had a choice with this Covid-19 crashing the economy. Not happy with what happened before though. I do believe that GWB was caring and respected the troops.. there were several policies that seemed uniparty. And to answer your question regarding fighting back, Yes, I'm tired of Republicans being doormats to democrats and their media propaganda machines. Trump does take it too far much of the time, but please tell me a Republican that pushed back against false media claims instead of just rolling over and ignoring it and allowing it to continue?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
But to what effect? It's certainly continued. He's supercharged it because he's so loose with his mouth. He writes the stories for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I just hope he uses duties against China to pay this back and not income taxes.
So do you prefer a POTUS being a doormat and just "taking the high road and saying nothing" when media says things that are not true, just to obviously get in a dig? Right or wrong, Trump has forced the media to come out in the open to what many of us have believed for decades or more and that the majority of the main stream media, and large newspapers are heavily biased in their reporting and favor democrats. I don't mind that they are, it's just that they won't admit it and try to present themselves as unbiased which is not true at all. They should be held accountable to a higher standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Trump lies constantly, which the responsible media, must continue to call out.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Here's an idea...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Every time you hear him lie in the future, let us know what he lied about.
Who watches the watchmen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The responsible media- we need some now more than ever.
LOL! touche'Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
He lies more frequently than I post.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Cop out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The only way I can know as much as I do is by avoiding wasting too much of my time chasing things that are likely to be fake.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Narcissist alert!! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
and cop out #2.
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Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Good. We definitely don't want any more fake, Rhino, swamp water, pretenders like John McCain in the party.
This is what WINNING looks like people: LOL!
Yesterday was a Big day for the Good guys:
- Department of Justice officials dropped former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's criminal case, which was the final nail in the coffin of the ridiculous Russian collusion hoax. This happened after the FBI was discovered to have admitted in an internal memo to having no evidence against Flynn, and then purposely setting up a perjury trap for him.
- The United States Supreme Court today unanimously agreed to throw out former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie's "Bridgegate" case. The vote was 9-0.
- Texas Governor Greg Abbott --and the State of Texas Supreme Court-- both overruled a lower court liberal judge who had ordered Texas Salon owner Shelly Luther to be jailed for 7 days for not apologizing to the judge in court. Luther was being punished for defying the lower court judge's directive NOT to go to work. She told the Democratic judge in court that she had a choice of opening her salon to feed her kids, or leave it closed and everybody go hungry. The judge got angry, used very poor judgement, and sentenced Luther to 7 days in jail. Of course, all this did was force Abbott and the Texas Supreme Court to slap the judge down like the biiich he is.
- Previously Top Secret U.S. House Intelligence Committee transcripts released today showed top Obama officials admitting to NOT having ANY empirical evidence of a Trump-Russia collusion conspiracy. But just like a 3rd world country, those same Obama officials proceeded with pushing the Russian collusion narrative on the American people anyway. They literally lied to the American people about it for 3 years.
- Researchers admitted today that they've discovered a strong correlation between a vitamin D deficiency and mortality rates from the Coronavirus. Since the sun is a huge source of vitamin D, many officials are rethinking the plan to keep people locked in their house behind closed doors. I guess running all those spring break kids off the beach back in March doesn't look so smart now. LOL!
- New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and the state of New York decided today to personally tax out-of-state health workers who came to New York to help New York officials fight the Coronavirus. Nope, you can't make stupid shit like this up. It's true. And totally disgusting.
Democrats apparently want to lose everything --the House, the Senate and the Presidency-- and make sure Trump wins reelection easily.
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Great post. Your thoughts about this align exactly with mine. We've seen many people's true colors exposed the last 5 years, and many weren't who we thought they were. For starters, every one you mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Exactly.. especially the part where all of the 13 or whatever number intelligence agencies agreed that Russia tried to collude with the Trump admin.. that was a massive LIE.. As reported today in WSJ, the whole Mueller circus was to provide cover for the gross mis handling and abuse by the FBI.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
That's a false choice. Trump hasn't forced the media to do anything. He's a fact-checkers dream. I think Hannity and Rush are pretending that some seismic shift has taken place in the perception of media. All that has happened is that people on both sides have had their priors confirmed in their own minds. So my question remains...How has Trump's "fight back" made positive change? Has it increased unbiased media? No, just the opposite. He's pushed Fox even further down their path and caused the MSNBCs of the world to double down as well. Are republican voter rolls up? No, they're down. Has he won over independents and conservative democrats? I haven't seen any indication that he has. In the end, he makes folks who already agreed with him feel like they've been heard (he also throws bones to the tin-foil hat camp, but I guess that's neither here nor there), but I can't see that he's done anything for conservatism that any of the other candidates wouldn't have done. And literally all of them would've been better at handling COVID 19. And, in the process, he's sent suburban white women heading for the door. Maybe it's a "be careful what you wish for" sort of thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I'll ask you the same question...do you think we've seen an uptick in what you'd call responsible media?Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
Hamilton Berger speaks. You should take your comedy on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Every politician lies constantly according to your definition. So does the “responsible” (LMAO) media.
I would say absolutely not. I think what we have seen is people waking up to the realization that there is no such thing. Sadly that hasn't encouraged the media to be more responsible, quite the opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
We've had this conversation before.. regarding headlines shaping of narratives etc. the main stream media specifically MSNBC and CNN have both had anchor personalities tell viewers that it is "their job" as "Journalists" and I definitely put that word in quotes... to "tell you what you need to know"...(this should scare the hell out of anyone regardless of who said it) Is there an uptick in responsible media.. no not at all... I have begun to trust foreign media outlets more than I do domestic ones as they seem to be more balanced in their reporting. They seem to have more "journalists" who report the facts to viewers rather than "Personalities" who offer their opinions as facts as much of cable news does.
Who on CNN has said that?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Who has not? They are all proud globalists trying to make the CNN International team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I don’t watch as much CNN as Frisco, but I haven’t heard anyone on there say anything like what he said they said.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Sean Hannity literally says that every day. No, he doesn’t call himself a journalist, but if y’all aren’t going to put fault on the consumer for not going beyond the headline, it seems kind of silly to think they’ll differentiate between Hannity and Chris Wallace.
Of course not. Who on CNN or any news outlet do you consider worthy of you omniscience?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Perfect. (salty language warning)
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I think it was Anderson Cooper.. When it came to wikileaks.. he basically said that it is illegal for you to read the wikileaks that are posted on the internet.. We will read them for you and tell you what they said..Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Sounds like you are talking about something Cuomo once said about “possessing” Wikileaks documents.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
In that situation context matters - the media is on solid footing based on the case dealing with the Pentagon Papers.
In the context of the Clinton/Podesta email thing, it depends on when and how. Once it was posted publicly, I think it would be tricky to prosecute anyone under the Espionage act; however, prior to it being public, you would run some risk trying to get these documents from Wikileaks.
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Excellent.Quote:
@EWErickson: Because you’ve traded your values for a cult of personality and suddenly realizing the price you have to pay for a cult of personality where you’ve traded ideas for grift and Twitter bitching.
Some of you guys really live in fantasyland.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
Name a politician in Washington that has values.
They’re all there to line their pockets, Republicans and Democrats. There are a few exceptions, but very few.
Schiff, Romney, McCain (formerly).Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47