Sounds like they are taking his statement completely out of context.
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Sounds like they are taking his statement completely out of context.
Dang you need to come out and breath every now and then my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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The polls are real close in NH. Mayor Pete is within one % point of Bernie. I know such pre-election polls are flawed, but it is encouraging that he is so close. I expect Bernie to win NH, but if Mayor Pete can come in 2nd...in NH, awesome! But what's up with the people in NH? They don't seem to be very social media savvy. I found one, hardly visited FB page that is devoted to the POTUS election. I posted a comment supporting Mayor Pete and have gotten one thumb's up and one down too.
If Mayor Pete beats Pocahontas and Biden in NH...yeah baby, we are on our way!
So this text occurred on 9/1 if I'm seeing things correctly. “Are we now saying that security assistance and WH meeting are conditioned on investigations?” and was made by Bill Taylor. Was he not in the loop for all the other discussions, wasn't this in the works even before the 7/25 call or is Taylor just the 'Eric Foreman' of the group.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Additionally, where they discuss "Ukrainian Statement to Include References to 2016 Election and Burisma. 8/13 text from Volker. Indicates "including those involving Burisma and 2016 US elections". Is this what is presumed to be the reference to requiring something on the Bidens? What I'm looking at doesn't allow a search. Is Biden mentioned at any point in any of the text messages?
Also, are these all the relevant text messages are just the ones that Adam thought might be the most damaging?
If there were other text messages that were exonerating, it would have been malpractice for Trump’s team not to present them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue
If you followed this trial, you would know that originally it was just the White House meeting that was expressly conditioned on the announcement of investigations into Burisma and the 2016 elections (this was the deal being negotiated between June and August).
In July, Trump put the block on the aid. In late August is when the quid pro quo over tying the aid to the announcements was officially hatched.
Vox put together a timeline of the evidence to put it into perspective.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox...p-quid-pro-quo
As to the issue of Burisma. There is no doubt wanted the announcement of the investigation to Burisma. It was already a well known (yet demonstrably false) conservative conspiracy theory that Joe Biden caused Shokin to be fired to stop the investigation of Burisma. This announcement was intended to breathe greater life into this conspiracy theory so Trump could use it against Biden.
You may recall that Volker and Sondland claimed that they didn’t originally understand Burisma to mean Biden (suggesting that they would have behaved differently had they understood that this was about politics from the beginning), but they did later come to learn that Burisma was code for Biden.
“I was not made aware of any reference to Vice President Biden or his son by President Trump until the call was released on Sept. 25,” Volker said.
“Apparently, a lot of people did not make the connection,” Sondland .
“I didn’t,” Sondland said.
“I wasn’t paying attention to what Mr. Giuliani was saying on TV,” he said. “We were talking to him directly.”
Assuming you were watching FoxNews during that time, there is no way that you didn’t know Burisma and Biden were tied together, politically. Giuliani was running around the news circuit pumping this story. Remember, Trump instructed Zelenskyy to “talk to Rudy” on that July 25 call to work out the meeting.
"Where's that dead horse, so I can kick him again," asks Goosey.
A dead horse is a good description for the morality of the Republican Party.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
You voted for Clinton so you obviously don’t give a shit about morality. Your arguments shift like the wind, depending upon what satisfies your TDS urges.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You have zero credibility.
A horse's a$$ is a good description of Democratic Party leaders. Horsesh!t is a good description of their socialistic policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I think Trump used the term bullsh!t yesterday :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Russdawg
I don’t like Clinton at all. That was the first time in my life I have voted for the lesser of two evils, and I was completely right for doing so. The abandonment of principle that we have seen since Trump was foreseeable - most Americans did.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Anyone that voted for Clinton had no principles to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Remember that most Americans thought Trump was more trustworthy than Hillary. Apparently many people today approve of his performance because he has very high approval ratings. Over 90% Republican approval, Even Reagan didn't have that level of approval within the party. Approx 63% of people approve of the his handling of the economy. 47% approve of foreign affairs and 50% on foreign trade. Looks like many in US like Trump's accomplishments in office.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Nor a firm grasp on morality and reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Well, that may be because most Americans did not see Trump for the dishonest person that I did. That seems to have changed as people have been exposed to him more.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
https://news.gallup.com/poll/260495/...ot-honest.aspx
The 34% that see him as honest have obviously been living under a rock known as FoxNews.