We got El A Tech'd again.

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03-10-2018, 08:27 AM
DogsWin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by The Historian

It's a bigger deal for those of us who care about the brand, what's been built over the past 50 years, and want it protected.

Don't speak for me please. I care GREATLY about Louisiana Tech's brand. LA Tech, La Tech, "lah tech" pronunciation by a game announcer,... is simply not a big deal. EVERYONE knows we are talking about LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY.

Now puppy dog cartoon head logos with no LA Tech and similar text totally destroys our branding and logo recognition. That could be anybody. The complaints are severely misguided.
03-10-2018, 09:32 AM
OLDBLUE

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by DogsWin

Don't speak for me please. I care GREATLY about Louisiana Tech's brand. LA Tech, La Tech, "lah tech" pronunciation by a game announcer,... is simply not a big deal. EVERYONE knows we are talking about LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY.
Now puppy dog cartoon head logos with no LA Tech and similar text totally destroys our branding and logo recognition. That could be anybody. The complaints are severely misguided.

Good point. Especially, the Cute" one W/O Tech on the collar. That thing could be considered an affront to real Bulldogs. :D
03-10-2018, 11:04 AM
dawg80

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

The "Lah" Tech doesn't bother me....although I guess it should. After all, you never hear "Vah" Tech, or "Jah" Tech, or even "Tex" Tech. Those schools always have their full name used.

I don't even know why anyone, including some goofy sports TV dude, would want to say "El" "A" Tech. That's three syllables. "Lah" Tech is just two.
03-10-2018, 12:21 PM
techman05

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

I will say as I always have, I write La Tech, but have always said Louisiana Tech. My parents and grandparents always say/said Louisiana Tech. Simple.
03-10-2018, 12:40 PM
Wade_Antley

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

How would you like people calling you "Way-Dee" Antley instead of pronouncing "Wade" correctly?

I understand your point but to honestly answer your question, it's never bothered me. I've been called Way-Dee-Pooh for 30 something years. LA doesn't bother me.

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Originally Posted by The Historian

It's a bigger deal for those of us who care about the brand, what's been built over the past 50 years, and want it protected.

That's a bit dramatic and completely asinine to imply that I don't care about the brand. If I didn't care I wouldn't be on here, I wouldn't travel thousands of miles for games, and I wouldn't be sportin' Tech gear when I'm going to the grocery store or flying around the continent.

I care more about reputation than a pronunciation. I care more about championships than a pronunciation. I care more about both teams playing in March Maddness than a pronunciation. I care more about making it to the College World Series, doubling the endowment, getting a new coach for the Dunkin' Dawgs, curb stomping power 5 schools in all sports (especially in state), and for heaven's sake - replacing pepsi with coke. But now I'm getting a bit dramatic.

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Originally Posted by The Historian

Perhaps for me this is a bigger deal because I've seen it from an outsider's perspective. I've spent so much time traveling throughout the country for the past 25 years that I know the impact of our brand, how people view Tech, and especially how we're viewed vs. other schools outside the P5 and even within the P5 because of our brand. And for the most part we've had that brand fall into our lap.

There are individuals perhaps too close to the situation that don't see that. They don't see this in any way from an outsider's point of view and how valuable that brand has become over time.

I travel a lot too. When someone looks at my shirt or hat that says "LA TECH" they always say "oh, you went to Louisiana Tech", not ellaye tech.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

The "Lah" Tech doesn't bother me....although I guess it should. After all, you never hear "Vah" Tech, or "Jah" Tech, or even "Tex" Tech. Those schools always have their full name used.

I've heard "Vah Tech" a few times recently on tv and radio.
03-10-2018, 02:06 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Wade_Antley

it must be a bigger deal for people that live in LA than out of state.

LOL!! :laugh: That's exactly what I was thinking. :laugh:

LA Tech fans....including "El Aye" Tech fans like PD ;) need to spend more time worrying about getting our mens BB team into an NCAA tournament for the first time in a quarter of a century, rather than worrying about this silly stuff.
03-10-2018, 02:14 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Wade_Antley

That's a bit dramatic and completely asinine to imply that I don't care about the brand. If I didn't care I wouldn't be on here, I wouldn't travel thousands of miles for games, and I wouldn't be sportin' Tech gear when I'm going to the grocery store or flying around the continent.

I care more about reputation than a pronunciation. I care more about championships than a pronunciation. I care more about both teams playing in March Maddness than a pronunciation. I care more about making it to the College World Series, doubling the endowment, getting a new coach for the Dunkin' Dawgs, curb stomping power 5 schools in all sports (especially in state), and for heaven's sake - replacing pepsi with coke. But now I'm getting a bit dramatic.

I travel a lot too. When someone looks at my shirt or hat that says "LA TECH" they always say "oh, you went to Louisiana Tech", not ellaye tech.

Good post.
03-10-2018, 03:18 PM
johnnylightnin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

So you are also fine with them pronouncing it EllAye Tech which was never the intent?

Again, it is an easy fix. Why would any of our fans not demand to fix it instead of just settling for 3rd rate?

Because Lah Tech is stupid too. And, the argument the pro LAH folks used is the exact same one that can be used to keep LA Tech.

There’s a proverb in here somewhere.
03-10-2018, 03:25 PM
The Historian

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Wade_Antley

That's a bit dramatic and completely asinine to imply that I don't care about the brand. If I didn't care I wouldn't be on here, I wouldn't travel thousands of miles for games, and I wouldn't be sportin' Tech gear when I'm going to the grocery store or flying around the continent.

I care more about reputation than a pronunciation. I care more about championships than a pronunciation. I care more about both teams playing in March Maddness than a pronunciation. I care more about making it to the College World Series, doubling the endowment, getting a new coach for the Dunkin' Dawgs, curb stomping power 5 schools in all sports (especially in state), and for heaven's sake - replacing pepsi with coke. But now I'm getting a bit dramatic.

I wasn't implying that you didn't care about the brand. I wanted to make that distinction by posting a follow up which you replied to. I just believe I have a different perspective given my travels and contact with individuals across the country. Individuals within college and professional athletics as well as sports fanatics and casual fans. To be where we want to be 10 years from now it's all going to matter. Everything you listed as well as an incredibly strong brand.

I've done about 350 weeks on the road in the past 25 years. It's given me a better understanding of just how valuable that brand is - both the state T logo and "Lah Tech". I've heard "Lah Tech" used by those outside our fanbase over the decades many more times more than Louisiana Tech. In state more people use Louisiana Tech or just "Tech". That hasn't been my experience elsewhere.
03-10-2018, 05:13 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Ironically, the last 10 posts alone have more market research than was done total before making the branding overhaul.
03-10-2018, 05:28 PM
sportdawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

It should be Tech or Louisiana Tech during games. The we don't have to worry about L A or Lah.

Unless we are playing another Tech
03-10-2018, 05:50 PM
techman05

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

Ironically, the last 10 posts alone have more market research than was done total before making the branding overhaul.

Are you kidding, these last 10 posts were more thorough than our marketing strategy since JOaks was here.
03-11-2018, 01:54 AM
Dixonfor6

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by techman05

Are you kidding, these last 10 posts were more thorough than our marketing strategy since JOaks was here.

Dang....
03-12-2018, 10:06 AM
GermDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

So you are also fine with them pronouncing it EllAye Tech which was never the intent?

Again, it is an easy fix. Why would any of our fans not demand to fix it instead of just settling for 3rd rate?

Yes, because whining about it is infantile, like I said before the people on here fighting the complacency of the admin, come off like hypersensitive ULL fans... Lah or ElAye doesn't matter as long as they're talking about us.

Also, when I was enrolled there were L. A. Tech chants/cheers done...
03-12-2018, 11:24 AM
Dwayne From Minden

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by GermDawg

Also, when I was enrolled there were L. A. Tech chants/cheers done...

A spelling cheer - NOT a name/brand cheer...

eye-ess-eye-aye-en-aye TECH
03-12-2018, 12:04 PM
inudesu

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by GermDawg

Yes, because whining about it is infantile, like I said before the people on here fighting the complacency of the admin, come off like hypersensitive ULL fans... Lah or ElAye doesn't matter as long as they're talking about us.

Also, when I was enrolled there were L. A. Tech chants/cheers done...

I roll my eyes at some of this stuff from some schools. Which is why I try to just grit my teeth and get past the "lah" Tech stuff (which I personally don't like).

But every school in the country works on this stuff to some degree. Everybody has their naming standards, etc. USC and South Carolina had a big fight about who gets to officially use their initials a few years back. I remember seeing media guides in the past with very clear "don't call us this thing that we often get called because we want to be this, this, or this" in them (not just for us). The thing with ULL isn't that they are trying to push a preferred naming convention through so much as what it is that they want to force people to call them (and yeah, you can only ask, even when our media guide I believe used to ask that announcers not use "lah tech" for us, they did it anyway).

It's worth correcting, but fans aren't going to be able to control this (at least not our number of fans), it's got to be the administration and the fans together.
03-12-2018, 12:12 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by inudesu

It's worth correcting, but fans aren't going to be able to control this (at least not our number of fans), it's got to be the administration and the fans together.

Nothing more difficult than trying to correct stupid mistakes made by academia. It's an easy fix but remember these are the same people who tell us we can get sued for using DAWGS instead of dogs. Sadly it is such an easy fix
03-12-2018, 02:43 PM
johnnylightnin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Nothing more difficult than trying to correct stupid mistakes made by academia. It's an easy fix but remember these are the same people who tell us we can get sued for using DAWGS instead of dogs. Sadly it is such an easy fix

Maybe it was an easy fix, but LA Tech is a thing now. Making the “A” lower case is a little late.
03-12-2018, 03:56 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Maybe it was an easy fix, but LA Tech is a thing now. Making the “A” lower case is a little late.

If we can destroy 50 years of tradition overnight, we can fix a few years of bad decisions.
03-12-2018, 04:06 PM
Dawgonit

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

If we can destroy 50 years of tradition overnight, we can fix a few years of bad decisions.

https://media.giphy.com/media/XwGVf8gQqt5rG/giphy.gif

https://i.giphy.com/media/XwGVf8gQqt5rG/giphy.webp
03-12-2018, 04:20 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Maybe it was an easy fix, but LA Tech is a thing now. Making the “A” lower case is a little late.

Making thishttp://latechbb.weebly.com/uploads/2...84799_orig.gif our primary logo when we already had thishttps://fanapeel.com/wp-content/uplo...a-behind-t.png

was the dumbest move ever.

Drop usage of the first one. We never needed it.
03-12-2018, 04:32 PM
techman05

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

PD for AD!
03-12-2018, 06:22 PM
johnnylightnin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

If we can destroy 50 years of tradition overnight, we can fix a few years of bad decisions.

Nah. Destruction and repair are two totally different skill sets. The current destruction was started by precious over a decade ago. It has a life of its own. I prefer our admin to work on competitive teams and selling tickets...those are the things that are impactful from a branding perspective.
03-12-2018, 06:35 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Nah. Destruction and repair are two totally different skill sets. The current destruction was started by precious over a decade ago. It has a life of its own. I prefer our admin to work on competitive teams and selling tickets...those are the things that are impactful from a branding perspective.

They've been competitive in the branding sports that matter.

- Football's next step is being ranked and/or the access bowl. Selling tickets is on our inept AD.
- MBB - I'm not sure a G5 from the south can gain branding from this sport w/out a dominant player, but selling tickets is on our inept AD.
- Baseball. We've about maxed out on this for the past two years and IMO gained some branding.

It's not too late to change our brand. It is still new even to many of our fans.

1. Stop using the spelled out "logo for dummies".
2. Stop going for the Lah Tech sound. Change the marketing to Louisiana Tech to be pronounced Louisiana Tech.
3. Stop using the capital LA unless it is followed with a capital TECH. Latech or LATECH, but never LATech.
03-13-2018, 02:43 PM
Tech77

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

We just could not resist the opportunity to shoot ourselves in the foot with LA Tech. Makes us look almost as stupid as UL-Lafayette.
03-13-2018, 03:05 PM
GermDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

If we can destroy 50 years of tradition overnight, we can fix a few years of bad decisions.

Wait we had 50 years of tradition? Fake news, we biotched about having no traditions for years and years. Despite it being very identifiable the State-T had so many variations (not just color) it was crazy.
03-13-2018, 03:10 PM
GermDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Making thishttp://latechbb.weebly.com/uploads/2...84799_orig.gif our primary logo when we already had thishttps://fanapeel.com/wp-content/uplo...a-behind-t.png

was the dumbest move ever.

Drop usage of the first one. We never needed it.

Wrong, we had this...
https://s3.amazonaws.com/libapps/acc.../tech_logo.jpg

Or this...
https://www.csm.ornl.gov/SC2007/pres...tate-black.jpg
or this...
https://webtmc.us/images/570x363/lou...-and-32622.jpg
or this...
https://nextgengolf.org/ruploads/team/logo/508/1.jpg

Or any other of the dozens of bad State-T's that were created and used.
03-13-2018, 03:17 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

They went overboard. We did not need the spelled out version. All we needed was uniformity with the designs and colors.

It's an easy fix.
03-14-2018, 07:40 AM
ChipDog

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Nah. Destruction and repair are two totally different skill sets. The current destruction was started by precious over a decade ago. It has a life of its own. I prefer our admin to work on competitive teams and selling tickets...those are the things that are impactful from a branding perspective.

I’m not sure what that means, but it doesn’t change the fact that our original State T (without the Los Angeles Tech) should be our only logo, and certainly only with a white T on red football helmets.
03-14-2018, 04:30 PM
johnnylightnin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

They went overboard. We did not need the spelled out version. All we needed was uniformity with the designs and colors.

It's an easy fix.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChipDog

I’m not sure what that means, but it doesn’t change the fact that our original State T (without the Los Angeles Tech) should be our only logo, and certainly only with a white T on red football helmets.

I agree about the state T. I don't agree that it's an easy fix.
03-14-2018, 05:54 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

I agree about the state T. I don't agree that it's an easy fix.

Easy as in not costly to initiate. People still don't do the Lah Tech thing consistently so that part is not a big deal at all. No telling how much extra ink and cost of signage we've wasted, but I'm not saying we immediately destroy all the "state T for dummies" we just phase it out. I wouldn't take long.
03-15-2018, 01:04 AM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Tech77

We just could not resist the opportunity to shoot ourselves in the foot with LA Tech. Makes us look almost as stupid as UL-Lafayette.

Yep....some of you look stupid alright.....
03-15-2018, 05:24 AM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

Yep....some of you look stupid alright.....

Only those who think the unintentional and wrong branding of Louisiana Tech is acceptable.
03-15-2018, 07:31 AM
Dowty

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Problem solved. :laugh:

https://i.imgur.com/FACl3PA.jpg
03-15-2018, 08:06 AM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Dowty

Problem solved. :laugh:

https://i.imgur.com/FACl3PA.jpg

How could we fail to miss this :laugh:
03-15-2018, 08:29 AM
sportdawg

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This was an actual option 10 years ago

Attachment 14265
03-15-2018, 08:31 AM
sportdawg

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would this be better?

Attachment 14266
03-15-2018, 09:02 AM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

I have additional objections to the wordmark logo (besides the fact that thats a contradiction in terms). The aspect ratio means that you have to compress the logo by about 2x to fit it in the available horizontal space. The State T is nice and nearly square: it shows up much better in a ticker bar because it can be twice as big. Pay attention to this next time you see the "logo" in a score bar. I can't unsee it now. The State T is so tiny we might as well just have "TECH" typed out and no logo at all.
03-17-2018, 01:23 AM
Dixonfor6

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by sportdawg

This was an actual option 10 years ago

Attachment 14265

I like it

But would it have stopped people from calling us Ell Aye Tech?
03-17-2018, 02:24 AM
Tech52

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by sportdawg

This was an actual option 10 years ago

Attachment 14265

Glad it didnt get past being an option. The lower case A looks bad.
03-17-2018, 06:34 AM
Dawgonit

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by sportdawg

This was an actual option 10 years ago

Attachment 14265

It's a good idea but not executed well in this. The lower case 'a' is just as big as the upper case 'L' so the significance of it is lost. Furthermore the 'ECH' is all upper case too. The 'a' should be smaller and 'ech' should be lower case and the same size. However I'm not sure if that would look good.
03-17-2018, 06:39 AM
Dawgonit

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

I have additional objections to the wordmark logo (besides the fact that thats a contradiction in terms). The aspect ratio means that you have to compress the logo by about 2x to fit it in the available horizontal space. The State T is nice and nearly square: it shows up much better in a ticker bar because it can be twice as big. Pay attention to this next time you see the "logo" in a score bar. I can't unsee it now. The State T is so tiny we might as well just have "TECH" typed out and no logo at all.

I had the same complaint when they switched to that logo on the front part of the helmet. It was too small to recognize what it was. We should have left it as TECH. The classic StateT logo has been disappearing in athletics unfortunately. I remembering ranting about it in a basketball post after they put up the alleyway covers and the videoboard.
03-17-2018, 12:21 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Tech52

Glad it didnt get past being an option. The lower case A looks bad.

Correct. The small "a" looks weak and insignificant compared to the other letters. It screams "Lah Tech".
03-17-2018, 12:25 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

The purpose of the current logo below is to have all of the letters equally capitalized, save for the enlarged emphasis on the "T" in Tech. It's a beautiful thing. Get used to people. It's our logo.

http://latechbb.weebly.com/uploads/2...84799_orig.gif
03-17-2018, 01:13 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

I regret to inform you that it gets worse

https://twitter.com/TechXXII/status/975071148559011840
03-17-2018, 04:03 PM
Tech52

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Its just a cheap shirt with a picture of Tech XXII.
03-17-2018, 04:33 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

I regret to inform you that it gets worse

https://twitter.com/TechXXII/status/975071148559011840

LOL!! That looks like something a 6-yr old made. :laugh:

It's okay. You will survive this. :icon_razz:
03-17-2018, 04:47 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

LOL!! That looks like something a 6-yr old made. :laugh:

It's okay. You will survive this. :icon_razz:

We will overcome.
03-17-2018, 06:25 PM
Tech52

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

The overall picture isnt an artistic masterpiece. I think they did good with the eyes though.
03-17-2018, 08:54 PM
maverick

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

I regret to inform you that it gets worse

https://twitter.com/TechXXII/status/975071148559011840

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech52

Its just a cheap shirt with a picture of Tech XXII.

This was on the brochure/folder that Time Out for Tech students used today to gain admission to the baseball game.
03-17-2018, 09:12 PM
Tech52

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by maverick

This was on the brochure/folder that Time Out for Tech students used today to gain admission to the baseball game.

Tech XXII was a theme for them today I guess.
03-19-2018, 07:00 PM
ChipDog

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

The purpose of the current logo below is to have all of the letters equally capitalized, save for the enlarged emphasis on the "T" in Tech. It's a beautiful thing. Get used to people. It's our logo.

http://latechbb.weebly.com/uploads/2...84799_orig.gif

NOT MY LOGO! Now where’s a window I can break or a store I can loot?
03-20-2018, 02:12 PM
champion110

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

I have never understood why there needs to be anything but the shape of the state with TECH inside it. The shape IS the LA, La., Louisiana, etc... It doesn't need the extra wording in front. We have a very recognizable state shape. We aren't Wyoming or Colorado. People know the boot....
03-20-2018, 02:29 PM
dawg80

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

I like the map of the state and the block T. That's all that's needed. Like on the helmets.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...oz_400x400.jpg
03-20-2018, 02:31 PM
dawg80

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

With proper branding, no words are needed:

http://content.nike.com/content/dam/...logo_black.png

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20161208155014

etc...
03-20-2018, 02:53 PM
champion110

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

I like the map of the state and the block T. That's all that's needed. Like on the helmets.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...oz_400x400.jpg

Agreed!
03-20-2018, 02:53 PM
champion110

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

With proper branding, no words are needed:

http://content.nike.com/content/dam/...logo_black.png

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20161208155014

etc...

Exactly!!!!
03-20-2018, 02:55 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by champion110

I have never understood why there needs to be anything but the shape of the state with TECH inside it. The shape IS the LA, La., Louisiana, etc... It doesn't need the extra wording in front. We have a very recognizable state shape. We aren't Wyoming or Colorado. People know the boot....

Our elitist people allowed our elitist AD to use branding for dummies instead of taking advantage of an already great brand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawg80

I like the map of the state and the block T. That's all that's needed. Like on the helmets.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...oz_400x400.jpg

All we have ever needed.
03-20-2018, 03:11 PM
Tech52

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

With proper branding, no words are needed:

http://content.nike.com/content/dam/...logo_black.png

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20161208155014

etc...

You are correct. That doesn't exclude those companies from also using other logos, or that logo with words.

The The State-T is great, its the University's main logo. LATECH logo is also fine, its a sub-logo, and refers to the athletics, its fitting enough since that is typically what is on the score bugs on TV or the scoreboards. Keeps people from trying to put LTU anywhere. And then there is the Dog and Techster logos that refer to the specific men's and women's teams that need differentiation.

Its all ok to use.
03-20-2018, 04:45 PM
johnnylightnin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawDawg

Our elitist people allowed our elitist AD to use branding for dummies instead of taking advantage of an already great brand.

All we have ever needed.

You talking about precious?
03-20-2018, 07:32 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

You talking about precious?

Yes, he was such a little bitch who treated our authorities as his bitch.

He owned our people like NSU and USM own us in Baseball and Football.
03-20-2018, 07:35 PM
johnnylightnin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Yes, he was such a little bitch who treated our authorities as his bitch.

He owned our people like NSU and USM own us in Baseball and Football.

Just making sure I didn't miss one of his successors redoubling the LAH effort that led to the LA realities.

Sounded too active for BVD and I'm not sure if TMac has learned his upper case letters yet...;)
03-20-2018, 07:37 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Just making sure I didn't miss one of his successors redoubling the LAH effort that led to the LA realities.

Sounded too active for BVD and I'm not sure if TMac has learned his upper case letters yet...;)

We could profit from this according to our admin and Hogdawg...

https://images.footballfanatics.com/...full.jpg&w=600

just add and itty bitty tech
03-20-2018, 07:45 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawg80

With proper branding, no words are needed:

http://content.nike.com/content/dam/...logo_black.png

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20161208155014

etc...

We're not NIKE. Or McDonalds.

Without PawDawg's "LA" in front of the "TECH", people will have no clue who we are. Of course, that seem's to be fine with some of you.
03-20-2018, 07:46 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawDawg

We could profit from this according to our admin and Hogdawg...

https://images.footballfanatics.com/...full.jpg&w=600

just add and itty bitty tech

Seriously, what would you possibly know about profitability?....:laugh:
03-20-2018, 07:46 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Well we need to add "Ruston" to it so people are aware of where we are. Probably "founded in 1894" also.
03-20-2018, 07:47 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

Well we need to add "Ruston" to it so people are aware of where we are. Probably "founded in 1894" also.

Yes, since so many schools do that, it's important to keep up. :icon_roll:
03-20-2018, 07:50 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HogDawg

Seriously, what would you possibly know about profitability?....:laugh:

Not as much as HD and his buddy Southland.
03-20-2018, 09:23 PM
TYLERTECHSAS

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawg80

I like the map of the state and the block T. That's all that's needed. Like on the helmets.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...oz_400x400.jpg

Amen!
03-21-2018, 02:41 PM
GermDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

the LaTech State T isn't meant for Tech fan's and grads, it's a way to make sure anyone watching can identify who they're watching. Theirs a lot of false-consensus bias going on here "I know what that logo means so everyone should" wrong. And people that don't know what it means aren't bad people but our university wants to give them the chance to understand it. Hell there are people in the USA that can't identify that as the state of Louisiana, if you just saw the State-T and googled Louisiana T, Tech doesn't show up (in fact a Ragin Cajun link shows up at the end of the page!), same if you switch it around T Louisiana or even the State of Louisiana with a T on it. Tech doesn't come up at all, but put in LA TECH and bam our webpage is first.

We are trying to grow enrollment, grow exposure, until/unless we become household name we need to make sure it's clear every time and to everyone when we are on media, who we are. As nice as the plain State-T looks it doesn't do that.
03-21-2018, 05:00 PM
dawg80

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

Well we need to add "Ruston" to it so people are aware of where we are. Probably "founded in 1894" also.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HogDawg

Yes, since so many schools do that, it's important to keep up. :icon_roll:

I'm a bit confused on your position. First you advocate for words because no one knows what the state-block-T stands for, which I 100% disagree with. Then you say no to Blue Dawg's suggestion of "words" to better explain who we are. Seems to me you need to make up your mind.
03-21-2018, 06:06 PM
ronmyster

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermDawg

the LaTech State T isn't meant for Tech fan's and grads, it's a way to make sure anyone watching can identify who they're watching. Theirs a lot of false-consensus bias going on here "I know what that logo means so everyone should" wrong. And people that don't know what it means aren't bad people but our university wants to give them the chance to understand it. Hell there are people in the USA that can't identify that as the state of Louisiana, if you just saw the State-T and googled Louisiana T, Tech doesn't show up (in fact a Ragin Cajun link shows up at the end of the page!), same if you switch it around T Louisiana or even the State of Louisiana with a T on it. Tech doesn't come up at all, but put in LA TECH and bam our webpage is first.

We are trying to grow enrollment, grow exposure, until/unless we become household name we need to make sure it's clear every

time and to everyone when we are on media, who we are. As nice as the plain State-T looks it doesn't do that.

Please don't make the anti-El A Tech gods angry, this thread has been going for six months, :shocked2:I not sure i can takes much more.
03-21-2018, 09:43 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Do we really want a student who can't ID the most identifiable state of the union? Texas is a close second.
03-21-2018, 11:01 PM
TYLERTECHSAS

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawDawg

Do we really want a student who can't ID the most identifiable state of the union? Texas is a close second.

Or an alum in McKinney that can't? ;)
03-21-2018, 11:36 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Or an alum in McKinney that can't? ;)

ooooooooh
03-26-2018, 10:36 AM
Champ967

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawg80

I'm a bit confused on your position.

twss
03-26-2018, 01:39 PM
GermDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawDawg

Do we really want a student who can't ID the most identifiable state of the union? Texas is a close second.

Still doesn't tell them what the hell the T on the state means, or what our name is... these are things that you want the person across the restaurant/bar to see and not have to think about so after awhile they say oh yeah I've seen LaTech on TV a lot, or their a pretty good school/team etc. Have the kid that walks through the room as dad is watching be able to ID it without asking or really thinking at all. But hey ya'll are marketing experts...:icon_roll:
03-26-2018, 01:57 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermDawg

Still doesn't tell them what the hell the T on the state means, or what our name is... these are things that you want the person across the restaurant/bar to see and not have to think about so after awhile they say oh yeah I've seen LaTech on TV a lot, or their a pretty good school/team etc. Have the kid that walks through the room as dad is watching be able to ID it without asking or really thinking at all. But hey ya'll are marketing experts...:icon_roll:

Why have a logo at all? Just type up LOUISIANA TECH in comic sans and be done with it.
03-26-2018, 02:02 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermDawg

Still doesn't tell them what the hell the T on the state means, or what our name is... these are things that you want the person across the restaurant/bar to see and not have to think about so after awhile they say oh yeah I've seen LaTech on TV a lot, or their a pretty good school/team etc. Have the kid that walks through the room as dad is watching be able to ID it without asking or really thinking at all. But hey ya'll are marketing experts...:icon_roll:

Its a ballgame on TV. What else would the T mean? It was around for over 40 years before Dooley (not a marketing expert) decided to dumb it down.
03-26-2018, 03:15 PM
champion110

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

I have no problem knowing who these are and have NEVER had anyone asked what school the T on top of the shape of Louisiana is.... They know........
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_logo.svg.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...s_logo.svg.png
03-26-2018, 03:48 PM
sportdawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.A...=0&w=300&h=300
03-26-2018, 03:55 PM
Dwayne From Minden

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Yep

Don't need the LA or TECH word mark on the State and Block T
03-26-2018, 04:24 PM
GermDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sportdawg

https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.A...=0&w=300&h=300

http://thecomeback.com/wp-content/up...1.12.45-PM.png
03-26-2018, 04:28 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

This thread is not down on LaTech or LATECH or Louisiana Tech being used as an ID. It is down on LATech and the LA(BlockT)ECH used as the primary logo. Both scream EllAye Tech.
03-26-2018, 04:49 PM
johnnylightnin

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawDawg

This thread is not down on LaTech or LATECH or Louisiana Tech being used as an ID. It is down on LATech and the LA(BlockT)ECH used as the primary logo. Both scream EllAye Tech.

A minority, highly astute, oppose LaTech branding as well because, despite our limited marketing experience, we can tell when something is stupid.
03-26-2018, 06:09 PM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

A minority, highly astute, oppose LaTech branding as well because, despite our limited marketing experience, we can tell when something is stupid.

I didn't like it but it was what they decided to use as our brand. THEN they chose a really bad way to market it and changed the only thing that had ever really worked
03-26-2018, 07:29 PM
techman05

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

I bet we will have Clinton indictments before someone grades up to that blunder.
03-26-2018, 07:44 PM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by techman05

I bet we will have Clinton indictments before someone grades up to that blunder.

Unlike most of our easily avoidable screwups, though, Tech fans are largely divided on the issue, as this thread shows (heck there are even some who like the invisible T on the helmets).
03-26-2018, 08:57 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawg80

I'm a bit confused on your position. First you advocate for words because no one knows what the state-block-T stands for, which I 100% disagree with. Then you say no to Blue Dawg's suggestion of "words" to better explain who we are. Seems to me you need to make up your mind.

No, Charlie Brown. You were just not smart enough to understand the blatant sarcasm inserted with the little roll eyes GIF. And if you weren't smart enough to catch that, you're a great example of the fact that Germdawg was right; everyone will not be smart enough to understand the state that our stand alone "state T" represents.
03-26-2018, 09:04 PM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS

Or an alum in McKinney that can't? ;)

What are you croaking about? You just like the naked, stand alone "T" all by itself because you can't read more than that. ;)
03-26-2018, 11:55 PM
WWDog

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by detltu

We sound like ULL when we complain about silly things like this.

I've been trying to ignore this thread. I think detltu said it early on above.
03-27-2018, 05:59 AM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WWDog

I've been trying to ignore this thread. I think detltu said it early on above.

It's NOTHING like what LaLaff is complaining about. They are doing something legally wrong, bragging about it, then complaining when a few in the Louisiana system refuse to go along.

We are complaining about a bad marketing move that has people calling us EllAye Tech. It's an easy fix.
03-27-2018, 06:03 AM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PawDawg

It's NOTHING like what LaLaff is complaining about. They are doing something legally wrong, bragging about it, then complaining when a few in the Louisiana system refuse to go along.

We are complaining about a bad marketing move that has people calling us EllAye Tech. It's an easy fix.

.....or not.
03-27-2018, 07:25 AM
dawg80

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HogDawg

Yes, since so many schools do that, it's important to keep up. :icon_roll:

Well, Lucy, this reads as you are thoroughly disgusted with Blue Dawg's post. That you totally disagree with it. Like....really? Blue Dawg you are a moron.

Guess you're not smart enough to make a sensible post.
03-27-2018, 07:54 AM
Blue Dawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawg80

Blue Dawg you are a moron.

If I were smart, I wouldn't be slinging shit on BBB with you pickleheads :D
03-27-2018, 08:00 AM
techman05

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Can we at least all agree that we were better off before any changes were made, regardless of which change you support or hate?
03-27-2018, 08:16 AM
PawDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by techman05

Can we at least all agree that we were better off before any changes were made, regardless of which change you support or hate?

we have some blindly follow no matter what
03-27-2018, 09:32 AM
dawg80

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Dawg

If I were smart, I wouldn't be slinging shit on BBB with you pickleheads :D

picklehead? That's one of the nicest things someone ever said about Hogdawg.
03-27-2018, 11:03 AM
Tech52

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by techman05

Can we at least all agree that we were better off before any changes were made, regardless of which change you support or hate?

If you don't have an issue with it, it makes no difference.
03-27-2018, 11:55 AM
HogDawg

Re: We got El A Tech'd again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawg80

Well, Lucy, this reads as you are thoroughly disgusted with Blue Dawg's post. That you totally disagree with it. Like....really? Blue Dawg you are a moron.

Guess you're not smart enough to make a sensible post.

You're slower than a snail. I did disagree with Blue Dawg's post. I responded negatively to his recommendation to add "Ruston" and "Founded in 1894" to the logo.

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