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detltu
Yep
True
Yep
And that is where you saw what you wanted to see. Mueller didn't seem to hold back when he felt like he could say something contrary to the president, but he definitely seemed to want to avoid the grandstanding the R's and D's were doing. Pretty sharp contrast with Comey.
Certainly when I heard exactly what I expected to hear, I thought it was for the reasons that I expected to hear it. And I recognize that there is some degree of confirmation bias to that, but had it gone differently I would have acknowledged I was wrong.
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TYLERTECHSAS
Nobody has proven he has broken any law. Period.
He has only tried to defend himself against bogus accusations.
Not saying that he has been proven. Can’t say it is proven until Trump has had a chance to offer any evidence he has to rebut the case that has been laid out in the Mueller report. But the bottom line is that there is sufficient evidence to impeach/indict, but if the Republicans aren’t willing to hold him accountable, impeaching Trump would only be doing him a favor.
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Not saying that he has been proven. Can’t say it is proven until Trump has had a chance to offer any evidence he has to rebut the case that has been laid out in the Mueller report. But the bottom line is that there is sufficient evidence to impeach/indict, but if the Republicans aren’t willing to hold him accountable, impeaching Trump would only be doing him a favor.
Dude, the Weismann report is a dud, full of innuendo prepared by a bunch of Clintonites.
Five more years of a Trump presidency, that’s what you have to look forward to.
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Dude, the Weismann report is a dud, full of innuendo prepared by a bunch of Clintonites.
Five more years of a Trump presidency, that’s what you have to look forward to.
Weismann had already left by the time Mueller signed and turned in the report. Try not to be such a tool of the right wing propaganda machine.
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Guisslapp
Weismann had already left by the time Mueller signed and turned in the report. Try not to be such a tool of the right wing propaganda machine.
How about we take a survey of who the tool is? Nothing you say carries any credibility because of your hatred of Trump.
Mueller had to come back out and state that a determination about obstruction was not made, meaning he didn't have enough for obstruction, otherwise he would have said so.
Mueller is senile, he didn't even know what Fusion GPS was, or so it seemed from his testimony. The real collusion, if any, was between the Clinton campaign and the Russians. Why did Mueller's team not follow that evidence. I've yet to see any evidence that the Russians impacted the election anyway. I'm still waiting on that.
As I've told you before, I get my news from the WSJ. That is the only source I need. You should try it sometimes instead of that left-wing garbage you love so much.
Did you hear David Gergen on CNN after the testimony? His comments were very telling.
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Guisslapp
Not saying that he has been proven. Can’t say it is proven until Trump has had a chance to offer any evidence he has to rebut the case that has been laid out in the Mueller report. But the bottom line is that there is sufficient evidence to impeach/indict, but if the Republicans aren’t willing to hold him accountable, impeaching Trump would only be doing him a favor.
Not according to a majority of the house, a majority of the senate, and a majority of the nation (based on polling). Your buddies are in control. if they feel there is enough to impeach they should just go ahead and do it. They already have one republican on board. Lay out the facts as they see them. Shift the public opinion on the matter. Heck, they could even say afterwards they did their job and the republicans in the senate refused to do theirs (although if the senate doesn't indict you could argue the House didn't do their job either).
The bottom line is the evidence is shaky at best after two years of investigation.
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glm47
How about we take a survey of who the tool is? Nothing you say carries any credibility because of your hatred of Trump.
Mueller had to come back out and state that a determination about obstruction was not made, meaning he didn't have enough for obstruction, otherwise he would have said so.
Mueller is senile, he didn't even know what Fusion GPS was, or so it seemed from his testimony. The real collusion, if any, was between the Clinton campaign and the Russians. Why did Mueller's team not follow that evidence. I've yet to see any evidence that the Russians impacted the election anyway. I'm still waiting on that.
As I've told you before, I get my news from the WSJ. That is the only source I need. You should try it sometimes instead of that left-wing garbage you love so much.
Did you hear David Gergen on CNN after the testimony? His comments were very telling.
You are easily confused. Mueller came back out to say a determination had not been made because he didn’t want his previous testimony to be used to suggest he made a determination of obstruction when he was basically set up to concede that the facts of the report supported all of the elements of obstruction.
The other thing he clearly said is that if he could have concluded no obstruction he would have concluded so. It was the OLC opinion that he followed that made it impossible for him to take the final step of the analysis to conclude that an indictable offense was committed by Trump. He did exonerate Trump for conspiracy, he couldn’t do so for obstruction.
You are really going to try harder to keep up if you want to speak at the adult’s table.
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You are easily confused. Mueller came back out to say a determination had not been made because he didn’t want his previous testimony to be used to suggest he made a determination of obstruction when he was basically set up to concede that the facts of the report supported all of the elements of obstruction.
The other thing he clearly said is that if he could have concluded no obstruction he would have concluded so. It was the OLC opinion that he followed that made it impossible for him to take the final step of the analysis to conclude that an indictable offense was committed by Trump. He did exonerate Trump for conspiracy, he couldn’t do so for obstruction.
You are really going to try harder to keep up if you want to speak at the adult’s table.
Ratcliffe: "Can you give me an example other than Donald Trump where the Justice Department determined that an investigated person was not exonerated because their innocence was not conclusively determined?"
Mueller: "I cannot, but this is a unique situation."
Ratcliffe: "You can’t...because I’ll tell you why. It doesn’t exist. The Special Counsel’s job, nowhere does it say that you were to conclusively determine Donald Trump’s innocence or that the Special Counsel report should determine whether or not to exonerate him. It’s not in any of the documents, it’s not in your appointment order, it’s not in the Special Counsel regulations, it’s not in the OLC Opinions, it’s not in the Justice manual, and it’s not in the Principles of Federal Prosecution...it was not the Special Counsel’s job to conclusively determine Donald Trump’s innocence or to exonerate him. Because the bedrock principle of our justice system is a presumption of innocence...You wrote 180 pages, 180 pages about decisions that weren’t reached, about potential crimes that weren’t charged or decided. And respectfully, respectfully, by doing that, you managed to violate every principle and the most sacred of traditions about prosecutors not offering extra prosecutorial analysis about potential crimes that aren’t charged...I agree with the Chairman this morning when he said Donald Trump is not above the law. He’s not, but he DAMN sure shouldn’t be below the law, which is where volume two of this report puts him.
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You are easily confused. Mueller came back out to say a determination had not been made because he didn’t want his previous testimony to be used to suggest he made a determination of obstruction when he was basically set up to concede that the facts of the report supported all of the elements of obstruction.
The other thing he clearly said is that if he could have concluded no obstruction he would have concluded so. It was the OLC opinion that he followed that made it impossible for him to take the final step of the analysis to conclude that an indictable offense was committed by Trump. He did exonerate Trump for conspiracy, he couldn’t do so for obstruction.
You are really going to try harder to keep up if you want to speak at the adult’s table.
Actually he didn't.
And Mueller's clarification was because the question was misleading. "Can he be indicted after he leaves office" is not the same question as "Was there sufficient evidence to indict him after he leaves office". One of the questions approached the second framing (although the wording was confusing and seemingly changed mid sentence) and Mueller answered yes, but really that is not a question he could answer (because of the limits of his testimony and doing so would contradict other statements he has made). It is the question that needed to be answered and would have provided the democrats the "gotcha" moment they were looking for. Unfortunately he couldn't answer that question and had to clarify because it kind of sounded like he did.
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440 page report and 8 hours of testimony and Schiff is still looking for Olga Buzova. If he could only find her and get those pictures, he would be so happy. :laugh:
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I am trying to unconfuse you. Mueller laid out every fact you needed to prove to show all of the elements of the offense of obstruction. Normally that would result in an indictment. Mueller believes he is not allowed to indict a sitting president. This creates an issue in that Mueller is prohibited from producing the conclusion he was asked to investigate. So he did all the analysis but did not reach the only possible legal conclusion that can be reached from the factual predicate he laid out.
It is like he said 1+1 =, but never said 2, because he is not allowed to say “2”. Because he can’t indict and charge, he said it wasn’t proper to reach this legal conclusion.
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You are easily confused. Mueller came back out to say a determination had not been made because he didn’t want his previous testimony to be used to suggest he made a determination of obstruction when he was basically set up to concede that the facts of the report supported all of the elements of obstruction.
The other thing he clearly said is that if he could have concluded no obstruction he would have concluded so. It was the OLC opinion that he followed that made it impossible for him to take the final step of the analysis to conclude that an indictable offense was committed by Trump. He did exonerate Trump for conspiracy, he couldn’t do so for obstruction.
You are really going to try harder to keep up if you want to speak at the adult’s table.
Here is Mueller's exact quote in response to Ted Lieu trying to get Mueller to say he would've indicted but for the fact Trump is the sitting president - "That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime." It can't be any clearer than that.
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detltu
Actually he didn't.
And Mueller's clarification was because the question was misleading. "Can he be indicted after he leaves office" is not the same question as "Was there sufficient evidence to indict him after he leaves office". One of the questions approached the second framing (although the wording was confusing and seemingly changed mid sentence) and Mueller answered yes, but really that is not a question he could answer (because of the limits of his testimony and doing so would contradict other statements he has made). It is the question that needed to be answered and would have provided the democrats the "gotcha" moment they were looking for. Unfortunately he couldn't answer that question and had to clarify because it kind of sounded like he did.
Actually, you are confused to. But it isn’t surprising because Trump and the right wing media made you fall for their misrepresentation. I listened to this play out live. The question he was correcting came from Lieu and it was
"The reason again that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?"
To which, Mueller replied “that is correct.”
Thus the purpose of Mueller’s correction was that he didn’t want it to be implied that he reached a positive legal conclusion. In my previous example, Mueller was clarifying that he didn’t actually say “2” in response to Lieu’s question.
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Here is Mueller's exact quote in response to Ted Lieu trying to get Mueller to say he would've indicted but for the fact Trump is the sitting president - "That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime." It can't be any clearer than that.
I know what Mueller said, but you are confused about the statement he was correcting.
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glm47
Here is Mueller's exact quote in response to Ted Lieu trying to get Mueller to say he would've indicted but for the fact Trump is the sitting president - "That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime." It can't be any clearer than that.
Here is the fuller Mueller quote that the right wing media is leaving out to mislead you:
"I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
Again, the OLC opinion prohibits Mueller from reaching a positive legal conclusion that Trump committed a crime. Mueller laid out the facts that would prove he committed all of the elements of the offense but would not state the only conclusion that results from the factual predicate. He walked up all the way to the line he couldn’t cross and didn’t take a step further.
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Guisslapp
Here is the fuller Mueller quote that the right wing media is leaving out to mislead you:
"I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
Again, the OLC opinion prohibits Mueller from reaching a positive legal conclusion that Trump committed a crime. Mueller laid out the facts that would prove he committed all of the elements of the offense but would not state the only conclusion that results from the factual predicate. He walked up all the way to the line he couldn’t cross and didn’t take a step further.
Supposedly there is a memo or a meeting between Mueller and Barr that Barr asked if the OLC was the reason Mueller did not reach a conclusion, and his answer was "No".
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Supposedly there is a memo or a meeting between Mueller and Barr that Barr asked if the OLC was the reason Mueller did not reach a conclusion, and his answer was "No".
Don't confuse our fellow dawg with facts. ;)
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Actually, you are confused to. But it isn’t surprising because Trump and the right wing media made you fall for their misrepresentation. I listened to this play out live. The question he was correcting came from Lieu and it was
"The reason again that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of the OLC opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?"
To which, Mueller replied “that is correct.”
Thus the purpose of Mueller’s correction was that he didn’t want it to be implied that he reached a positive legal conclusion. In my previous example, Mueller was clarifying that he didn’t actually say “2” in response to Lieu’s question.
You and I are saying the same thing here. I probably should have used the word leading instead of misleading, but essentially Mueller implied something that he was not in a position to imply. I can see why you are so confused though.
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Guisslapp
Here is the fuller Mueller quote that the right wing media is leaving out to mislead you:
"I want to go back to one thing that was said this morning by Mr. Lieu who said, and I quote, 'You didn't charge the president because of the OLC opinion.' That is not the correct way to say it. As we say in the report, and as I said at the opening, we did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."
Again, the OLC opinion prohibits Mueller from reaching a positive legal conclusion that Trump committed a crime. Mueller laid out the facts that would prove he committed all of the elements of the offense but would not state the only conclusion that results from the factual predicate. He walked up all the way to the line he couldn’t cross and didn’t take a step further.
Everyone has heard that quote. I can't say where, but it seems the full quote is readily accessible. it doesn't change anything. The right wing media boogie man isn't the catch all and probably isn't your villain in this specific instance.
Mueller built the case as best he could. Whether he met the burden is debatable- and being debated. Those who don't care about the rule of law (like yourself :laugh: and maybe Mueller if you are right about him) have already made a determination of his guilt or lack of innocence, while those who care about the rule of law are taking a more measured and analytical approach to the issue.
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Guisslapp
I know what Mueller said, but you are confused about the statement he was correcting.
You're the only one on here that sees this through a democrat perspective. The rest of us interpret it just the way he said it and it is written. Trump has completely blown your brain away, just like he's done to Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler, Schiff and the rest of the loons.
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Exactly what many of us have been thinking.
Ex-FBI chief of staff: Russia conspiracy came from Obama White House
Newly released transcript of Comey official's private testimony
Published: 6 hours ago
James Rybicki, who served as chief of staff to former FBI Director James Comey, suggested in sworn testimony that the Trump-Russia collusion investigation was orchestrated by Obama’s White House in October 2016, according to newly released bureau documents.
A heavily redacted transcript of Rybicki’s interview with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel includes an unidentified prosecutor’s summary of the former FBI official’s testimony.
“So we understand,” the prosecutor says, “that at some point in October of 2016, there was, I guess, a desire by the White House to make some kind of statement about Russia’s. … ”
The next page is omitted.
The United States Office of Special Counsel, not to be confused with Robert Mueller’s special counsel, is a permanent independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency designed to protect federal employees from reprisal for “whistleblowing.”
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https://mobile.wnd.com/2019/07/ex-fb...a-white-house/
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Exactly what many of us have been thinking.
Ex-FBI chief of staff: Russia conspiracy came from Obama White House
Newly released transcript of Comey official's private testimony
Published: 6 hours ago
James Rybicki, who served as chief of staff to former FBI Director James Comey, suggested in sworn testimony that the Trump-Russia collusion investigation was orchestrated by Obama’s White House in October 2016, according to newly released bureau documents.
A heavily redacted transcript of Rybicki’s interview with the U.S. Office of Special Counsel includes an unidentified prosecutor’s summary of the former FBI official’s testimony.
“So we understand,” the prosecutor says, “that at some point in October of 2016, there was, I guess, a desire by the White House to make some kind of statement about Russia’s. … ”
The next page is omitted.
The United States Office of Special Counsel, not to be confused with Robert Mueller’s special counsel, is a permanent independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency designed to protect federal employees from reprisal for “whistleblowing.”
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And this:
FBI agents went to Comey's house, retrieved secret memo after his firing
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This just out from The Hill tonight.
Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz’s team referred Comey for possible prosecution under the classified information protection laws, but Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecutors working for Attorney General William Barr reportedly have decided to decline prosecution — a decision that’s likely to upset Comey's conservative critics.
Lindsey Graham said on Hannity tonight he thinks Barr wants to prosecute Comey for the FISA abuse.
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DONW
This just out from The Hill tonight.
Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz’s team referred Comey for possible prosecution under the classified information protection laws, but Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecutors working for Attorney General William Barr reportedly have decided to decline prosecution — a decision that’s likely to upset Comey's conservative critics.
Lindsey Graham said on Hannity tonight he thinks Barr wants to prosecute Comey for the FISA abuse.
I still say Comey, Brennan or Clapper etc.. take their own life before heading for stripped sunshine behind the bars.
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I still say Comey, Brennan or Clapper etc.. take their own life before heading for stripped sunshine behind the bars.
Yep! as they will have evidence to take down Krooked Killary, and obummer, they will definitely be "suicided," and good riddance.
Speaking of which, the Klinton Death List has grown. James Dolan and Aaron Schwartz, two computer experts, had devised a "tell all" system whereby government employees could whistle blow anonymously. It's a long story, but at the end of it, there was a ton of evidence...the system allowed documents to be submitted...that incriminated the Klintons, among other Swampers. Both of these young men, ages 26 and 36, were found dead under VERY suspicious circumstances. They were the ONLY two people who knew how to un-encrypt the information. They were part of a 5-person team that originally began developing the system. Three others left to take real paying jobs as it was taking so long to perfect the system. One of those three, who stayed the longest, had recently disappeared...not sure if he has been "suicided" or is in hiding. The remaining two have issued statements that they had left before the encryption process had been developed and therefore can NOT retrieve the data. Obviously they are sending a message to the Klinton thugs to please not "suicide" us, leave us alone.
That makes the Klinton Death List total 169 confirmed.
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Yep! as they will have evidence to take down Krooked Killary, and obummer, they will definitely be "suicided," and good riddance.
Speaking of which, the Klinton Death List has grown. James Dolan and Aaron Schwartz, two computer experts, had devised a "tell all" system whereby government employees could whistle blow anonymously. It's a long story, but at the end of it, there was a ton of evidence...the system allowed documents to be submitted...that incriminated the Klintons, among other Swampers. Both of these young men, ages 26 and 36, were found dead under VERY suspicious circumstances. They were the ONLY two people who knew how to un-encrypt the information. They were part of a 5-person team that originally began developing the system. Three others left to take real paying jobs as it was taking so long to perfect the system. One of those three, who stayed the longest, had recently disappeared...not sure if he has been "suicided" or is in hiding. The remaining two have issued statements that they had left before the encryption process had been developed and therefore can NOT retrieve the data. Obviously they are sending a message to the Klinton thugs to please not "suicide" us, leave us alone.
That makes the Klinton Death List total 169 confirmed.
Every single one of the people involved in supporting the illegal activities of the Clintons deserve to be rounded up and shot by a firing squad.
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re: Dolan and Schwartz
https://securedrop.org
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Speaking of the Deep State and cover-ups...
There's a YouTube Video that claims JFK...the 3rd and fatal shot...was killed by a Secret Service agent riding in the car behind JFK's limo. They say a fellow named George Hickey accidently shot JFK with an AR-15 during the confusion after Oswald fired TWO shots. Hickey picked up the AR-15, and that is not in dispute because there is a photo of him holding it, and he flipped the safety off and covered the trigger with his finger, turning his head back toward the Book Depository. The car lurched suddenly and the rifle went off striking JFK in the back of the head.
Naturally, the SS and the government in general would cover-up such an accident. Otherwise, some spokesman would be on national TV saying, "Ooops! our bad, we accidently killed the President."
The evidence presented in that video (watch it) makes this theory possible and plausible.
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I think this just another red herring to distract us from the shot from The front from a Remington XP-100 that did the massive damage. Parkland doctor said He was shot from the front. Several reliable witnesses smelled gun powder and you can't get that from 6th floor . IMHO
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_XP-100
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BREAKING NEWS!!
Here it comes boys!! And Obama, his DOJ and Hillary were all involved in this big time!!
DOJ official kept in contact with dossier source Steele for months after his firing, documents show
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I’ll believe it when I see it. I mean, I hope so. But hope hasn’t gotten crooked Hill put away.
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Well of course. Just another reason I guess Guisslapp is missing.
It's totally OK to be wrong my fellow bulldog. It happens to me daily. Just ask my wife. :rolleyes:
Inspector general confirms he wants criminal charges against Comey
Michael Horowitz's team concluded fired FBI chief improperly leaked information
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Inspector general confirms he wants criminal charges against Comey
Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz disclosed at a House hearing Wednesday that he referred former FBI Director James Comey for criminal prosecution for leaking sensitive government information.
"We are required by the [Inspector General] Act to send information that we've identified that could plausibly be criminal to the Department of Justice," said Horowitz, The Washington Times reported.
The Justice Department decided not to prosecute.
In May 2017, Comey asked a law professor friend to give the New York Times copies of a memo of his conversations with President Trump. Comey later acknowledged to Congress that his intent was to trigger a special counsel investigation of the president.
In a report released last month, Horowitz said Comey "set a dangerous example."
On Wednesday, the inspector general told the House Oversight and Reform Committee that Comey's behavior would set a precedent.
"Our concern was empowering FBI directors or, frankly, any FBI employee with the authority to decide they are not going to follow established norms and procedures because, in their view, they’ve made a judgment that the individuals they are dealing with can’t be trusted," he said.
When asked if Mr. Comey’s holding the highest position in the bureau added to his concern, Mr. Horowitz confirmed it had.
Rep. Jody Hice, R-Ga., called Horowitz's disclosure of the criminal referral "monumental," the Times reported.
Responding to Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., Horowitz said he would look into allegations Comey lied during his 2017 Senate testimony.
Asked if he knew of another FBI director referred for criminal prosecution, Horowitz said he did not.
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https://www.wnd.com/2019/09/inspecto...charges-comey/
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Goosey wrong? No way! Did you read the Mueller Report? Well, did you Tyler? I bet you didn't. I bet Goosey was right and you never read the Mueller Report. Of course, Mueller never read the Mueller Report either. Even he knew it was a work of fiction.
Goosey is so stupid, so lost, so off the wall....something many of us were telling him for years...that when his pea-sized brain was finally able to comprehend the truth, he disappeared. Just like ole Wolfie, the big Krooked Killary supporter did after the 2016 election.
Well, Goosey, if you ever read this post...
you are also wrong about evolution, God, man-made climate change, abortion, gun control, immigration, aliens, the Loch Ness Monster, and the tooth fairy.
Oh, and your favorite politician, Beto, is a big loser!
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If Trump really did withhold aid as part of a pressure tactic to get them to go after Biden then that is a problem. Basically the same thing Biden did which is a problem. I suppose we will see.
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So...Biden is part of the "Deep State" as well. maybe even in charge of it with Hillary and Obama pulling his strings.
Biden camp launches new push to silence Trump attorney as he alleges possible corruption
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:laugh: Idiots all! The racist muslim speaks. Can you imagine a GOP Senator or Congressman saying the same about Obama and his racist ADM?
Tlaib: Dems looking into how to arrest, where to hold Trump officials
Jason Chaffetz: Here’s why John Brennan is 'frightened to death'
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On FSN last night they reported that Durham has found so much corruption by democrats, that he's having to extend his investigation and hire more personnel. Brennan and Comey are getting very scared.
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On FSN last night they reported that Durham has found so much corruption by democrats, that he's having to extend his investigation and hire more personnel. Brennan and Comey are getting very scared.
Gonna be a tough stretch to get through for Lady Liberty.
The question becomes: Can the democrats and willing accomplices in the media hide the truth of their evil ways while attempting to un-do an election that took place three years ago? If they can hide whatever comes of this stuff, and continue to say that anything directed at Biden has been debunked, while continuing to attempt to impeach a sitting president....we all lose.
This is shaping up to be a critical time for our country. The dems will either destroy Trump or eventually get him carved into Mount Rushmore.
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Another great move by Trump today. He hired Trey Gowdy as one of his lawyers.
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Gonna be a tough stretch to get through for Lady Liberty.
The question becomes: Can the democrats and willing accomplices in the media hide the truth of their evil ways while attempting to un-do an election that took place three years ago? If they can hide whatever comes of this stuff, and continue to say that anything directed at Biden has been debunked, while continuing to attempt to impeach a sitting president....we all lose.
This is shaping up to be a critical time for our country. The dems will either destroy Trump or eventually get him carved into Mount Rushmore.
i agree. I believe the very existence of the United States is at stake. If the Democrats win this battle, this country, at least as we've known it, is finished.
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Biden is probably done. That said, Trump may have offed himself in the process. 51% in the latest FOX NEWS poll support impeachment AND removal with 4% supporting impeachment.
This is not the deep state. These are self-inflicted wounds.
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Biden is probably done. That said, Trump may have offed himself in the process. 51% in the latest FOX NEWS poll support impeachment AND removal with 4% supporting impeachment.
This is not the deep state. These are self-inflicted wounds.
Keep wishing...
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Keep wishing...
Like wishing there was a genius master stroke to the Kurdish betrayal?
😂
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Like wishing there was a genius master stroke to the Kurdish betrayal?
😂
yes Trump hates Kurds, Blacks, and the alphabet. We need another Bush...
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On FSN last night they reported that Durham has found so much corruption by democrats, that he's having to extend his investigation and hire more personnel. Brennan and Comey are getting very scared.
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Gonna be a tough stretch to get through for Lady Liberty.
The question becomes: Can the democrats and willing accomplices in the media hide the truth of their evil ways while attempting to un-do an election that took place three years ago? If they can hide whatever comes of this stuff, and continue to say that anything directed at Biden has been debunked, while continuing to attempt to impeach a sitting president....we all lose.
This is shaping up to be a critical time for our country. The dems will either destroy Trump or eventually get him carved into Mount Rushmore.
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i agree. I believe the very existence of the United States is at stake. If the Democrats win this battle, this country, at least as we've known it, is finished.
IMHO, 100% correct on all above.
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Another great move by Trump today. He hired Trey Gowdy as one of his lawyers.
I wish Gowdy could be onboard now.
Trump’s attempt to hire Trey Gowdy for legal team unravels over post-Congress restrictions
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Gee put this under 2020 election of here per the Deep State coverup.
Hunter Biden’s sordid history proving major liability for dad’s WH bid
Democratic front-runner Joe Biden has survived a series of poor debates, weathered criticism that he is out of touch and gaffe prone to still maintain a lead in a majority of the polls. But it's the tangled tale of his middle child Hunter that threatens to scuttle the former vice president's third bid for the White House.
In Democratic circles, there have been whispers for years that Hunter Biden could become a liability for his father. Questions about the younger Biden's overseas business dealings in Ukraine and China as well as his checkered past at home -- he dated his brother's widow, used cocaine, bought crack and allegedly spent so much money in strip clubs and on prostitutes that his family couldn't pay their bills -- has made him an easy target for President Trump.
Trump, who is facing an impeachment inquiry, has aggressively gone after chief rival Biden and his family. Some accusations the president has lobbed can be proved. The majority cannot.
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Durham/Barr investigation is now officially a criminal matter. A grand jury will be convened soon. Look for the rats to start seeking to toss other rats off the ship to save themselves. How far up will the criminal investigation go? Eric Holder is definitely in the cross-hairs. Right above him....obummer.
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Eric Holder is definitely in the cross-hairs. Right above him....obummer.
That would be racism.
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Dang it's about time!! And I'm betting the facts will eventually bear it to be true!
TRUMP ACCUSES OBAMA OF TREASON
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So Trump must be a racist. Obama is half black, therefore...
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So Trump must be a racist. Obama is half black, therefore...
Under Louisiana law, and probably elsewhere, "half black" = "completely black." Actually, I think it's something like 1/8 black that qualifies.
Of course, if you're leftist, you can declare yourself to be whatever you want. You can be black, or white (but why would you want to?), Native American...like Lizzy girl...male, female, not sure! or some combination of "all the above."
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Obama was called an "african American". He was 0% of that one
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Obama was called an "african American". He was 0% of that one
He was born in Kenya...makes him some part "African."
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:laugh: Love it!!
GOP promises to call Schiff as 'witness' about impeachment
'Then we'll really see him squirm'
https://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploa...aff_avatar.jpgBy WND Staff
Published October 30, 2019 at 11:46am
A key member of the House GOP is promising that Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., will be called as a fact witness should the Democrats' pursuit of the impeachment of President Trump advance that far.
"And then we'll really see him squirm," said Rep. Matt Gaetz, F-Fla.
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GOP promises to call Schiff as 'witness' about impeachment
'Then we'll really see him squirm'
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:argue:
Senators demand DOJ turn over results of probe into Dem collusion with Ukraine
DNC reportedly used 'foreign government sources to undermine Trump campaign'
https://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploa...ces_avatar.jpgBy WND News Services
Published November 25, 2019 at 11:25am
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Actually the next report being worked on will be the worst news for the socialist Dems.
Long-awaited report on FISA abuse from IG could scramble Dems’ impeachment plans
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Hum..
Obama White House meeting featured 'whistleblower' and Soros-funded activists
Report reveals background of operative suspected of starting impeachment move
https://www.wnd.com/wp-content/uploa...aff_avatar.jpgBy WND Staff
Published November 26, 2019 at 8:39pm
The CIA analyst believed to be the anonymous whistleblower whose complaint triggered the impeachment investigation was in a meeting in the Obama White House that included members of a far-left group funded by George Soros, reports the Gateway Pundit.
On Sept. 7, 2016, Eric Ciaramella met with a number of National Security Agency officials along with Michael D. Jarvis, the executive director of the Transparency and Accountability Initiative, which is funded by George Soros' Open Society Foundation.
Others in the meeting included Baily S. Holladay, a Russia linguist/analyst with NSA, and Natalia O. Lassowsky, an NSA Ukrainian linguist/analyst.
Soros' Open Society has praised TAI as a group "dedicated to empowering citizens to hold their governments to account."
The Gateway Pundit said that when Jarvis worked at the World Bank, he focused on the oil, gas and mining sectors.
"It is no secret that Soros was interested in Ukraine's oil and gas industry and that Obama's Departments of Justice and State were doing all they could to help him take it over," Gateway Pundit blogger Joe Hoft commented.
Investigative reporter John Solomon reported Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuri Lutsenko told him that U.S. Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch gave him "a list of people whom we should not prosecute."
One of the group that Ukrainian law enforcement was probing, Solomon said, was the Anti-Corruption Action Center, which was co-funded by the Obama administration and Soros.
The group was collaborating with the FBI agents investigating then-Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s business activities with pro-Russian figures in Ukraine.
Hoft wrote: "It's likely the Obama administration and Ciaramella were involved in the efforts to have Soros-related entities in the Ukraine removed from any potential indictments related to their activities in the Ukraine. No doubt that this is the types of activities that took place in Obama’s White House."
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Barr: Obama FBI knew anti-Trump dossier was 'garbage'
But kept using it as evidence, even after its 'source' denied claims
Published December 10, 2019 at 4:02pm
https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/barr-obama-fbi-knew-anti-trump-dossier-garbage/
Ex-independent counsel 'aghast' to learn extent of Obama AG's involvement
Horowitz: Obama FBI misled court to spy on Trump campaign
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For the regressive that don't read the real news.
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CNN needs to change it's name to the Democratic News Network. Not only did they skip Graham's opening statement, they only aired democratic questioning and no republican questioning of the IG. They only showed the opening IG remarks where he stated he found no documented political bias.
CNN never aired IG remarks:
ABC News
?Verified account @ABC
"Former FBI Director James Comey said this week that your report vindicates him. Is that a fair assessment?" Sen. Lindsey Graham asks.
"I think the activities we found here don't vindicate anybody who touched this," IG Horowitz replies. http://abcn.ws/2RCLktc
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CNN needs to change it's name to the Democratic News Network. Not only did they skip Graham's opening statement, they only aired democratic questioning and no republican questioning of the IG. They only showed the opening IG remarks where he stated he found no documented political bias.
CNN never aired IG remarks:
ABC News
?Verified account @ABC
"Former FBI Director James Comey said this week that your report vindicates him. Is that a fair assessment?" Sen. Lindsey Graham asks.
"I think the activities we found here don't vindicate anybody who touched this," IG Horowitz replies.
http://abcn.ws/2RCLktc
CNN handles news just like Commie China and Russia do.
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I literally LOL! FOX has been reporting the truth for 3 years and now these idiots in the lamestream media are reporting it like it's news. The story is 3 years old, it is not "news." I really feel for the morons who depend on CNN et al for their so-called "news." Gawd those people are hopelessly out of touch.
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Not looking good for Obama's ADM.
Poll: 52% believe top federal law enforcement broke law to harm Trump
Nearly half say James Comey should be criminally prosecuted
By WND Staff
Published December 16, 2019 at 6:03pm
There are crooks at the top of federal law enforcement who broke the law to try to block President Trump but probably won't ever be punished, a majority of voters say.
The Rasmussen Reports survey found 52% of likely U.S. voters think it likely "senior federal law enforcement officials broke the law in an effort to prevent Trump from winning the presidency."
https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/u-s-voters-james-comey-criminally-prosecuted/
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Not looking good for Obama's ADM.
Poll: 52% believe top federal law enforcement broke law to harm Trump
Nearly half say James Comey should be criminally prosecuted
By WND Staff
Published December 16, 2019 at 6:03pm
There are crooks at the top of federal law enforcement who broke the law to try to block President Trump but probably won't ever be punished, a majority of voters say.
The Rasmussen Reports survey found 52% of likely U.S. voters think it likely "senior federal law enforcement officials broke the law in an effort to prevent Trump from winning the presidency."
https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/u-s-voters-james-comey-criminally-prosecuted/
Comey’s ship is sunk. He has no credibility or opportunity anymore. Both sides hate him. Offer him a deal he can’t refuse to start singing like a canary.
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Make up your mind: "process crimes" should be prosecuted now?
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Comey’s ship is sunk. He has no credibility or opportunity anymore. Both sides hate him. Offer him a deal he can’t refuse to start singing like a canary.
Yes! America deserves “the whole enchilada”!
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TYLERTECHSAS
Not looking good for Obama's ADM.
Poll: 52% believe top federal law enforcement broke law to harm Trump
Nearly half say James Comey should be criminally prosecuted
By WND Staff
Published December 16, 2019 at 6:03pm
There are crooks at the top of federal law enforcement who broke the law to try to block President Trump but probably won't ever be punished, a majority of voters say.
The Rasmussen Reports survey found 52% of likely U.S. voters think it likely "senior federal law enforcement officials broke the law in an effort to prevent Trump from winning the presidency."
https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/u-s-vote...ly-prosecuted/
Comey says he was wrong even!! But the leftist regressives like Mr. Guisslapp don't care.
They still think the Comey was great, the FBI doesn't lie and didn't spy and there was no conspiracy.
Secretive court rebukes FBI after IG report, demands reforms
https://a57.foxnews.com/hp.foxnews.c....jpg?tl=1&ve=1FISA COURT SPEAKS
Secretive court rebukes FBI after IG report, demands reforms
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hum...
New York Times able to track Trump's movements with leaked location data
Exercise showed how easy it is to spy on people via their phones
Published December 20, 2019 at 4:48pm
(BUSINESS INSIDER) The New York Times was able to track the precise movements of President Donald Trump by combining leaked location data with public information, showing the ease with which a phone's location data can be turned into a spying tool, potentially compromising national security.
The Times said that it got the data from anonymous whistleblowers concerned about this vulnerability and a lack of regulations, and that it took only minutes to turn a massive anonymized data set — with 50 billion location "pings" from the phones of more than 12 million people in the US related to their movements in 2016 and 2017 — into specific information on Trump.
Read the full story ›
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:furious3: Lock him up!
John Brennan has committed treason, says counter-terror expert
'He's made an entire adult lifetime of this'
Published December 31, 2019 at 1:46pm
The charges come from John Guandolo, the founder of Understanding the Threat, an organization that trains and consults with federal, state and local leaders and agencies "to defeat the jihadi threat."
In an interview with Jamie Glazov on the "Glazov Gang," Guandolo said, "I think if you're going to stand beside John Brennan like a number of people have and they've officially put their names on a list, your putting yourself in the enemy camp."
He continued: "John Brennan what he's guilty of is sedition, and I would argue treason. This isn't something that happened in the last two years. He's made an entire adult life time of this."
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https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/john-bre...terror-expert/
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TYLERTECHSAS
:furious3: Lock him up!
John Brennan has committed treason, says counter-terror expert
'He's made an entire adult lifetime of this'
Published December 31, 2019 at 1:46pm
The charges come from John Guandolo, the founder of Understanding the Threat, an organization that trains and consults with federal, state and local leaders and agencies "to defeat the jihadi threat."
In an interview with Jamie Glazov on the "Glazov Gang," Guandolo said, "I think if you're going to stand beside John Brennan like a number of people have and they've officially put their names on a list, your putting yourself in the enemy camp."
He continued: "John Brennan what he's guilty of is sedition, and I would argue treason. This isn't something that happened in the last two years. He's made an entire adult life time of this."
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https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/john-bre...terror-expert/
Fired FBI official apologized for misleading investigators on leak
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:icon_mad: Of course!
Surprise! Obama DOJ gave Clinton lawyers 'special privileges'
New release of government records includes emails from Strzok and Page
Published January 9, 2020 at 7:39pm
Former FBI agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page have become infamous for emails and text messages documenting their effort to prevent Trump from becoming president.
New obtained by Judicial Watch show the Justice Department gave special privileges to lawyers for Hillary Clinton while she was under investigation for her mishandling of classified information.
Judicial Watch said it has obtained another 211 pages of emails between Strzok and Page "that detail special accommodations given to the lawyers of Hillary Clinton and her aides during the FBI investigation of the Clinton email controversy."
They include a discussion about negotiations with Beth Wilkinson, an attorney for the Clinton lawyers "who gathered and then deleted 33,000 emails for Hillary Clinton."
The records were obtained in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. Judicial Watch previously submitted a FOIA request for the information, focusing on emails, text messages and instant messages between Strzok and Page.
The watchdog organization said the FBI is processing records at a rate of only 500 pages per month, meaning the communications records release won't be finished for almost two more years.
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"It is quite apparent why the FBI is slow-rolling the release of these Strzok-Page emails – as they dramatically show how senior officials at the Obama DOJ and FBI gave special and favorable treatment to Clinton and her lawyers," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.
"As the Obama Justice Department and FBI bent over backwards to protect Hillary Clinton, these agencies broke every law under the sun to spy on her political opponent, Donald J. Trump. AG Barr and Director Wray must stop the stonewalling about this corruption and reopen the Clinton email investigation."
An email from Strzok to other FBI officials on April 25, 2016, said of a looming meeting about the Clinton case, "If you have strong objection (I do not other than finding out after the DD [Deputy Director]), we should raise it now."
In another, on May 11, 2016, Strzok provided a "Wilkinson negotiation timeline" to Assistant Director for the Counterintelligence Division Bill Priestap. In it, he laid out unspecified "negotiations" that had taken place between FBI/DOJ and Wilkinson, Judicial Watch explained.
Strzok said: "We will have spent 34 days waiting for opposing counsel to make the initial step of any tangible offer, about which we have no idea of if it will be anywhere close to what we have been specific about (at least since the Mills interview, if not earlier by DoJ) wanting."
The reference was to Cheryl Mills, a top Clinton State Department official.
Judicial Watch also noted:- In an April 8, 2016, email to FBI officials, Strzok outlines questions for the FBI’s upcoming interviews of Mills and Heather Samuelson “concerning their post-State employment.” Strzok then forwards the email on to Page, Moffa and other unidentified persons, indicating that the questions were prepared “in anticipation of potential need for further discussion between the FBI and DOJ on the analysis of attorney-client and attorney work product privileges and protections.”
- On March 22, 2016, Strzok writes in an email to Priestap: “[Redacted] indicated he feels a need (and I agreed) to respond to Beth [Wilkinson] quickly about taking possession of the laptops. She is fine to provide them to be destroyed, but not to store them.”
- On April 13, 2016, Strzok emailed Priestap and expressed concern about “the content of that Baker-Wilkinson contact,” apparently referring to a phone call between FBI General Counsel James Baker and Wilkinson. Strzok told Priestap: “To the extent you can ask what Jim’s contact was and ask that the investigative team be kept abreast of contact with our DOJ counterparts, I would greatly appreciate it.” Strzok forwarded the note to Page, saying, “You still think I don’t have reason to be angry?”
- On April 1, 2016, Strzok forwards to Priestap, FBI Counterintelligence Division official Robert Jones, Moffa and some unidentified FBI officials a Politico report discussing the highly unusual legal strategy of Wilkinson simultaneously representing four of Hillary Clinton’s top aides in the email scandal.
About that time in 2016, Page emailed Strzok: "God, I’m in such a bad mood" and "I really just hate everyone. Especially DOJ. ??????"
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https://www.wnd.com/2020/01/surprise-obama-doj-gave-clinton-lawyers-special-privileges/
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So now it is official, the FBI purposely abused the FISA process in an attempt to frame Carter Page, and others, so as to use them as tools to implicate Donald Trump. Beyond Page, and others, suing the pants off of the FBI et al, I want to see criminal charges and people going to prison. Tall boy Comey? Oh yeah, right in the midst of it.
Once again we see FOX (especially Hannity) was spot on reporting this, and the lamestream commie media, and Gooesy, were dead wrong, as usual.
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So now it is official, the FBI purposely abused the FISA process in an attempt to frame Carter Page, and others, so as to use them as tools to implicate Donald Trump. Beyond Page, and others, suing the pants off of the FBI et al, I want to see criminal charges and people going to prison. Tall boy Comey? Oh yeah, right in the midst of it.
Once again we see FOX (especially Hannity) was spot on reporting this, and the lamestream commie media, and Gooesy, were dead wrong, as usual.
DOJ not only said they abused the process they said two of the warrants were illegally obtained, and will not justify the other two.
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So now it is official, the FBI purposely abused the FISA process in an attempt to frame Carter Page, and others, so as to use them as tools to implicate Donald Trump.
Once again we see FOX (especially Hannity) was spot on reporting this, and the lamestream commie media, and Gooesy, were dead wrong, as usual.
100% correct!
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Word on the street...don't ya just love that expression!...is evil, anti-American scumbags like Strzok and McCabe and others will be arrested and charged this week. Don't hold your breath.
Dems are shameless and Repubs ball-less when it comes to such matters. Dems will do anything, even illegal activities to win politically and the Repubs are too scared of their own shadows. NOW, let me hasten to add, NO!!! I do not want to see the GOP descend to the depths of evil, criminal activity the Dems are infamous for, but, heck, in this case, there were laws violated! Make those who are guilty pay!
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Yeppers
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:bomb: Hard not to agree; especially since we are here have been saying the same thing for 2 1/1 years at least.
Obama 'planted moles' in White House to torpedo next president
'All roads in the effort to get rid of Trump lead right back to the top'
Published February 11, 2020 at 4:52pm
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It's abundantly clear now that the Obama administration tried to torpedo Donald Trump, first as a candidate and then as president-elect, using a Democratic Party-funded "dossier" of Russian propaganda to obtain warrants to spy on Trump's campaign.
But talk-radio host Rush Limbaugh says the Obama administration went even further, by planting "moles" throughout the federal bureaucracy to undermine Trump.
He noted Tuesday that Barack Obama grew the National Security Council staff from about 100 employees to well over 200.
Trump didn't immediately fire the extraneous workers when he took office.
Among Obama's hires were the Vindman brothers, one of whom testified against Trump in the House impeachment investigation. Another was Eric Ciaramella, the reported whistleblower whose hearsay claim triggered the Democrats' impeachment campaign. And there was Sean Misko, who was heard plotting with Ciaramella to bring down Trump just weeks after the inauguration. Misko then went to work for the lead impeachment manager, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif.
"And then you remember how Obama multiplied the number of federal agencies who had access to classified data? I think what this actually was… I think as Obama was leaving office, he expanded the National Security Council staff and then enlarged the number of agencies that had access to whatever classified data they did. He planted moles," Limbaugh said.
"This is where they planted the moles. This is where they planted the moles all over the NSC. The Vindman twins, Fiona Hill, the whistleblower, Abigail Grace (who left the NSC shortly after the Trump phone call). She went to work for Schiff. So did Sean Misko. Every one of these people is an Obama holdover. I remember asking, 'Why in the hell are they still there? Why didn’t Trump clean house and reduce this number back down to 75 to a hundred people who are working for him?' I don’t know the answer.
"But my guess would be that he had people advising him not to do it," he said.
"But I think that's where all of this came from. I think it's where the Trump-Russia collusion and all of this came from, the FBI and that element of it, too. But the inside Trump administration moles, the turncoats, whatever you want to call 'em. They are Obama appointees that had jobs expanded as Obama was leaving office for the express purpose of protecting Obama's achievements and sabotaging whoever was to come next — in this case, Trump," he said.
He said the "garbage coming out of these NSC people and the leaks" was possibly the most damaging to Trump.
"Obama holdovers in the National Security Council. I mean, all roads in the effort to get rid of Trump lead right back to the top of the Obama administration. I don’t think there’s any question about it."
https://www.wnd.com/2020/02/obama-pl...ext-president/
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Word on the street...don't ya just love that expression!...is evil, anti-American scumbags like Strzok and McCabe and others will be arrested and charged this week. Don't hold your breath.
Dems are shameless and Repubs ball-less when it comes to such matters. Dems will do anything, even illegal activities to win politically and the Repubs are too scared of their own shadows. NOW, let me hasten to add, NO!!! I do not want to see the GOP descend to the depths of evil, criminal activity the Dems are infamous for, but, heck, in this case, there were laws violated! Make those who are guilty pay!
Guess you were wrong.
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Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?
Let me see....I responded to the word on the street with a "Don't hold your breath." Which means, of course, I didn't think it was gonna happen. It didn't happen. But Goosey the genius still guesses I was wrong. Dang! even when I nail it, I am wrong...wow! :icon_roll:
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Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?
I agree with Pocahontas....Barr should resign and Trump appoint Trey Gowdy as AG!
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Re: Another FBI and/or Obama "Deep State" screw-up?
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dawg80
I agree with Pocahontas....Barr should resign and Trump appoint Trey Gowdy as AG!
That is the most squirrely woman I've ever seen in my life. Strange brew.