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JBE is venturing out!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
We were ready weeks ago. New Orleans and that moron mayor were not. In Louisiana, it’s all about what’s best for I-10 southQuote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
LOL! Thanks for posting that, Guissy. So essentially, the data is all crap. Officials (if you can all them that) are double-counting many patients. So anyone who gets a "second opinion" test gets counted twice, or more, depending on how many times they test. Geez people....find a hobby other than this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I don't believe the death count either. They are not in line with the norms.
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Each time a person is tested for COVID-19 and the test is positive, the patient gets counted among the confirmed cases. That means if an individual is tested more than once during the course of their illness, and the test comes back positive, the case is counted anew, even though it’s the same individual.
At least one patient has shown up multiple times, plus at least two counted in the Lincoln Parish number are not Lincoln Parish residents.
The death count is correct, if not too low.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
In looking at the numbers over the past week it doesn't look like New Orleans has been a problem at all. It's Region 8 - Monroe - that's been the main problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Nope -Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Most coroners here in the state believe that our death count could be over stated by as much as 25%....
And I talk to my coroner personally about twice a week and I'm in contact with his office on basically a daily basis
And yes our coroner is a very well respected MD across the region and state
My wife has been making masks using different fabrics and yesterday we went to bring a friend one made from material that has sunflowers. These masks, my wife makes, has pockets that allows you to slide in filters too. Well...even though sunflowers are our friend's favorite she declined the mask. Seems, which we did not know, her doctor has cautioned her against wearing a mask. She suffered a rare lung disease as a teenager and that has caused her to get pneumonia several times...the last time about 20 years ago, which we remember when she had that bout...nearly died from it. Her lungs are so scarred from all of that her doctor said a mask, which causes you to inhale some of your own CO2, could cause her a health issue. Her jobs allow her to work from home so she has been social distancing to the max! We have been in contact with her by phone, text, Facebook these past months, but just thought we needed to go see her in person. Well...she stood on her front porch, we stood about 10 feet away and we chatted. She lives waaay out in the country, and appreciated us making the drive to go see her.
The other day we went to a local restaurant. They have a set up where you place your order and then they bring it out to you in Styrofoam go-boxes, but you have the option to dine on their outdoor patio. Which, given it was such a pretty day, we opted to do. Later some older fellow comes up, places his order, etc...and when the restaurant worker, in a mask, attempted to walk up and hand the man his order, which was also in a bag, he panicked and yells at the young fellow..."Just put it down! Put it down! Don't approach me!" The young fellow sets his order on a table..."Now, back away from it!" the older fellow commands. Only after the worker backed away did the customer rapidly lunge for his order, grab it, and then dashes to his car. My wife says, "That man should just stay home."
These are strange times...
I am talking about Lincoln Parrish. Maybe there is a delay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
If the TRUTH is allowed out...and it usually finds its way out, given enough time...I think we'll see the number of deaths caused by C-19 drop. Right now every death possible is being listed as a virus-caused fatality. There's money in it for doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
I think we will also learn that MILLIONS contracted the virus and never knew it.
What is their basis for this opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Yes that was convenient for JBE. The numbers were padded up here and have been for weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
Paranoia is not a good look for a ruggedly handsome fellow like yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
We have a couple of nursing homes and a chicken plant that has caused the increase in the entire region. That’s not paranoia. It is caused by this https://www.globalresearch.ca/hospit...us/5709720/ampQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
It's based on what the coroners in the state are dealing with - we have found 3 of our 9 were double counted and 1 was counted three times and it is happening across the board in all parishes -Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Since the vast majority of the deaths in the state are nursing home/assisted living facility related tying it down to residency has become an issue - basically only the deaths that occur at home or at a local hospital where the coroner KNOWS that the deceased is a resident can the deaths be considered accurate
I.E. you have a life long resident of say Union Parish, who is living in an assisted living facility in Ruston (Lincoln) becomes ill and is transported to a hospital in Monroe (Ouachita) and dies - there is a very STRONG likelihood that this death is not counted correctly as ONE in the LDH numbers but as either two or three -
The ONLY way it is corrected is through collaboration with the Troop (State Police is the gate keeper on cases and deaths reported to the parishes) the 3 local sheriff offices and the 3 local coroner offices...
Correct - no tests/autopsies are being performed postmortem in the state on deceased individuals who are suspected to have died from C-19 complications - state is a direct order from the Governor's office to the State Board of CoronersQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
What is more concerning is that not all residents are being tested in a nursing home everytime a new cluster shows up in one, even when multiple workers and residents test positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
I understand that testing resources are not robust, but the failure to test and isolate nursing homes cases is baffling, considering the impact the disease has on these populations.
The decision to no longer report nursing homes that have clusters is also a head scratcher. Why don’t they want this information out there?
based on the letter I received yesterday they are testing now. Example: if my mom is exposed to a known positive, I will be notified and she will be tested after evaluation. This is the way they handle it in the hospitals with medical personnel as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That is good news.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Fauci just underscored this point to the Senate. Maybe he is reading my posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Nursing homes are already isolated. Test the employees. Problem solved.
Assisted Living facilities are not isolated. Many of the residents still drive.
For some reason the media is lumping them together along with senior housing that has no ADL requirement at all.
These are three totally different housing arrangements, but a nursing home is the only one that is captive (at this point).
May 12Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
32,050 cases 2,281 deaths testing rate at 14.1%
1,320 in hosp 146 on vents
Nursing home residents aren’t isolated from each other. Once a worker brings it in, and people aren’t tested after a worker tests positive, it spreads fast. Happens over and over and over again throughout the US and in Louisiana...Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXbcSXRX...jpg&name=small
It’s an easy fix. Rapid test the employees daily. Inside of 15 minutes and they have fixed the false negative Problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Yeah, if enough rapid tests were available.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
They will be eventually. They've just now perfected them. No need in mass producing something that does not work properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Narcissist alert!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
BTW. the regular testing is overdone at this point. In many areas testing centers are sitting idle.
Over production of testing, over placement of vents and hospital beds. Trump sucks!
Oh my God that's funny!Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
May 13Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
32,662 cases 2,315 deaths testing rate at 13.7%
1,194 in hosp 147 on vents
For reference Number of deaths of persons age 65 and over: 2,067,404
Deaths per 100,000 population:
65-74: 1,790.9
75-84: 4,472.6
85 and over: 13,573.6
Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2017
Natch Parish is lifting the 10PM curfew, effective this Friday. Get ready...crazy morons will go nutso around here. They are taking this as a license to party hardy without any regard for...anything or anyone.
Apparently the rapid test from Abbott Labs might produce an alarming amount of false negatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...udy-finds.html
Old news. This is not the only “rapid test”Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Just another example of unreliable testing. Back in February the tests were returning a ton of false positives. If you have any trace of past flu infection, and most people do, probably like over 90% of us, the tests were showing positive for C-19. False negatives, of course, is unacceptable. Which is why I just shake my head at all the idiots out there...do you know of one?...who fussed at President Trump for not having a widespread, fool-proof testing system for every effing person on the planet!!!! waaaaaaaaaaaaay back then in February. Stooooooooooooooopid! There is still no such testing system...and we're in May now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
But, I don't blame medical science. As experts say as a novel virus C-19 was going thru rapid mutations...it has begun to stabilize some, although it will continue to mutate from now to the end of eternity. Saw a virus expert on TV the other day explaining "that's what viruses do."
Not old news. Study was posted Tuesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Louisiana is reopening state parks this weekend...yippee! Now, hopefully, we'll reopen Melrose Plantation and I can go back to "work." I say "work" because if you enjoy what you do, it is not work.
Are you saying that’s the only test/study out there? It’s not good news so that’s more likely your reason for posting it. I had already referred to it in my posts on TuesdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I missed your post on it. But the Abbott Labs rapid test was the rapid test that could be rolled out most quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
This was just one non-peer reviewed study and hopefully their was a flaw in the study, because we need these rapid tests at scale.
May 14Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
33,489 cases 2,351 deaths test rate at 13.5%
1,193 in hosp 140 on vents
In the rural areas you also have to factor in that on many occasions an individual may work at various nursing homes or care facilities and they may be transmitting (most likely are) from one setting to the other....Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Actually, I do blame medical science. The've been wrong about everything from the start.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
- Back in January Anthony Fauci was telling people it was no big deal. Turns out, it was.
- Then it was "wear a mask", right before it became "don't wear a mask". Then it became "DO wear a mask", again.
- Then it was "our hospitals will be overwhelmed". They weren't. National averages topped out at roughly 8% capacity nation wide.
- Then we didn't have enough ventilators, now we've got too many.
- The Medical community told us to expect 1.5M to 2.2M deaths from coronavirus. The number is closer to 70K, and that number is probably terribly overstated.
- Chloroquine works! No, wait, it doesn't work! Or does it?
I could go on and on. But suffice it to say, "medical science" has dropped the ball often, and has looked worse than a bunch of keystone cops during this whole fiasco. Even they don't know what to believe. They (medical science) was terribly unprepared for this. Never mind, this is exactly the kind of stuff that we pay enormous dollars to the CDC, the WHO, etc....each year to PREVENT! It's the CDC's job to protect this country and the WHO's job to protect the world from stuff like this, and this was a MASSIVE FAIL on the part of our "medical science" community. As far as I'm concerned, they all get "F's" for their performance.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-info-war-over-chloroquine-has-slowed-covid-19-science/
https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/08/trump-was-right-cuomo-was-wrong-about-ventilator-needs/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCaxieeBKwo
But,but, but...if all things were equal and if this would have happened....our predictions could have been right!Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
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Originally Posted by eagle2180
LOl! :laugh:
More like blame FoxNews. They were the ones giving these TV doctors (Drew, Oz, Phil) airtime even when what they were saying was inconsistent with what the experts were saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
You are taking Fauci’s comments our of context from January.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sta...emplate=ampart
What he was saying was like the advice on masks “at that time.”
There wasn’t evidence that we had it in the US at that time. It wasn’t time for quarantining or wearing masks. It was time for the administration to put together a coherent national plan that was effective for dealing with it when it got here. They completely failed (and are still failing on that) because Trump isn’t a real leader.
The hospitals and deaths figures were what would happen if we didn’t lock down. That is why we did lock down, so that wouldn’t happen. Hope you are taking note again Techman05.
We are over 80k deaths now and heading to 150k with the reopening.
Trump and FoxNews are who was telling you that chloroquine works. That was always based on shaky evidence that experts (like Fauci) had reservations with.
Way back when other countries were able to do it. At the beginning of an epidemic you can deal with faulty tests better then once it is widespread. It is a numbers game. If you get a false negative, you get another chance to catch the next cluster. But as the numbers grow, it overwhelms your ability to put the brakes back on the spread.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Ya mean like Italy and Spain!? The only thing worse than no data is bad data.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Wipe your ears...you're so full of it the shit is oozing from 'em.
Italy and Spain are the new benchmarks for measuring America? How low of a bar are you setting for Trump?Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Germany and South Korea figured it out.
Elections have consequences, and you guys that voted for this incompetent clown took America out of the elite category and put us on par with the former had-beens like Italy and Spain. It is time to Make America Great Again, like it was 4 years ago.
You can do better than that (I think :rolleyes:). You know full well I was not measuring America against Italy and Spain. The topic was VERY SPECIFIC...faulty testing for the C-19 virus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Funny thing, I was getting ready to post this:
I think I will make a real effort to be friends with Goosey. I have a friend who is a huge Democrat...he even likes Krooked Killary and JBE, and...and...he is a HUGE Dallas Cowboys and LSU fan! Yet, we get along really well, even though we mostly disagree on everything. His name is Craig M. and well, he's goofily, hopelessly wrong about so many things. Yet, we get along.
But, Goosey, I don't know...I'll have to continue to pray about it for you.
Bullshit! Multiple reports from attending doctors and staff of people swabbing positive but dying of gunshot, vehicle accident, slip and fall, etc. having "Covid-related" on the death certificate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
As did most Republican run states/cities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Rule #1 - Don't put covid19 patients in nursing homes with your most vulnerable citizens.
Rule#2 - Don't force residents to quarantine in high-rise apartments that function as petri dishes.
Thank heaven our localities are not run by our bloated federal bureaucracy....where some idiot in control could force everyone to break rule #1 and 2.
I didn't vote for him, but I plan to remedy that error this time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Reports from where?Quote:
Originally Posted by CARTEK
May 15Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
33,837 cases 2,382 deaths testing rate at 13.4%
1,091 in hosp 132 on vents
Good news...I got a haircut today!!! Yippee!
Bad news...the price has gone up. My hair stylist, Ms. Carrie, says they have been closed two months, so no income, and bam! cost of supplies have all gone up too from wholesalers who have been sitting on two months supply of hair coloring products.
80K? Only 2.2M more to go, to be right on their predictions. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Fauci's a clown. (You should know all about that.) I wouldn't trust Fauci to babysit my kids.....and they are in their 30's now. LOL!
There's a lot of people that say the chloroquine works, particularly when mixed properly with Zinc. These "witnesses" include the black female state representative in Michigan who took it after getting coronavirus and seeing Trump talk about the chloroquine on TV. She swears it cured her. There are many others as well. Unfortunately, like everything else, it became "political" when the lamestream media learned that Trump's blind trust owns a mutual fund that apparently owns a very small amount of stock in the maker of chloroquine (along with many other stocks as well). It was said that Trumps total amount of ownership in the chloroquine maker thru the mutual fund totaled between 5K and 15K in total. Hard to believe that Fauci and the Dems would rather see people die than actually use the chloroquine solution, but here we are.
Pull your head out of your ass...you can't be that sheltered or stupid!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I heard on the radio this morning that the coronavirus death rate in Tennessee is 4 people dead for every 100,000 people. That's a 0.004% death rate. And yes, Tennessee is a red state, with a Republican Governor (Bill Lee), and two (2) Republican U.S. Senators.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
I wish I could remember who the official was that said this on tv at a briefing, but basically they said: "If a person who is under hospice care and contracts coronavirus and dies, their death would be counted as a coronavirus death".
They were already dying anyway, thus the hospice care. But there is money given for a coronavirus death as opposed to a cancer death.
More money to what? If they are on hospice why would they be treated for coronavirus?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Why would people admit to lying ona death report and violating the CDC guidelines?Quote:
Originally Posted by CARTEK
Rush knows exactly how you like your chain pulled!
I have no idea.. the lady just said that if that person died who was on hospice and they contracted CV-19 their death would be listed as CV-19 not whatever they were in hospice for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Sounds like an oversimplified explanation. If COVID played a role in the death, it counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvss/vsrg/vsrg03-508.pdf
The compensation conspiracy theory is wack. Insurance fraud is not something hospitals and doctors should play around with. Even then, that theory makes even less since for hospice.
From USA Today Factcheck:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/24/fact-check-medicare-hospitals-paid-more-covid-19-patients-coronavirus/3000638001/
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Provision in the relief actThe coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients.
According to this article, you don't have anything to worry about, because the doctors took a Hippocratic Oath!! LOL! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
By the way, Whitehouse Coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx told CDC Director Robert Redfield to his face "there is nothing from the CDC that I can trust". It's in the same article.Quote:
“There’s an implication here that hospitals are over-reporting their COVID patients because they have an economic advantage of doing so, [which] is really an outrageous claim,” UCLA senior fellow Gerald Kominski told the fact-checking site. He said any suggestion that patients may be put on ventilators out of financial gain, not medical need, “is basically saying physicians are violating their Hippocratic Oath … it would be like providing heart surgery on someone who doesn’t need it.”
Hospitals have another motive not to inflate COVID-19 death numbers. If the numbers don’t add up, they could expose themselves to Medicare audits, and civil and criminal penalties.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/as-u-s-co...is-exaggerated
The Medicare audits is the big issue for hospitals. It would be stupid to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
But the article hints at the origin of Cartek’s and others confusion. Low and behold it was a statement made by a Republican politician that distorted a statement made by a state director of public health (Ezike)
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So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death,” she said.
"You could be driving home and be in an auto accident and die from that," Darren Bailey, a Republican Illinois lawmaker suing Gov. JB Pritzker to reopen the state, told WAND-TV on Monday. "And if you had COVID-19 in your system, that death gets labeled as COVID."
The next day, Ezike offered clarification. She told reporters that Illinois was not counting those whose COVID-19 infection had nothing to do with their death.
“We are trying to make sure that things that aren’t related at all to the COVID diagnosis are removed, but if someone has another illness, like heart disease, and then had a stroke or other event, it’s not as easy to separate that and say COVID didn’t exacerbate that existing illness. That would not be removed from the count,” she said.
1. Why would that apply to hospice where patients agree not to receive life-sustaining treatments for disease.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
2. As I have stated multiple times and even your FoxNews article acknowledges, you guys are accusing doctors and hospitals of fraud. Fine if you regally believe doctors are unethical, but even if you think that you can’t surely thing that they would risk the criminal penalties with Medicare fraud for a 20 percent premium.
Another wrongful death lawsuit filed against the Natchitoches Nursing and Rehab Center. And two longtime employees, Stacy Masters and Miranda Green, who held supervisory positions, are also named defendents. This is all a matter of public record. Not surprisingly all three attorneys working for themselves...and I guess on behalf of the plaintives too...are well-known scumbag ambulance chasers. And I know all three very well. I have done business with two of them, and the other I coached in baseball when he was a youngster, his older brother too.
Well...if I wanted to hire an assassin to kill someone (and I don't...at the moment) I would want the meanest, nastiest, most foul killer (with big pointy nasty teeth!) I could find. Same is true for hiring an attorney. When it's time to get down in the gutter...hire the biggest scumbags you can find to do your dirty work. Well, in this case, bam!
The details of the petition has been made public. It basically claims the facility and the two named defendants failed to take ordinary precautions and care re: protecting vulnerable patients against C-19.
Speaking of that...the latest numbers across the state, with the 2,300+ deaths total, show that just over 900 of those deaths were elderly patients in nursing home and assisted living facilities. I actually expected that number to be a little higher. That still leaves over 1,400 deaths of "others" who were not among the most vulnerable. Although, most of those did have pre-existing medical conditions that greatly contributed to their deaths.
"Applying to hospice" is not a process. It is a life event, when a loved one is about to die and all life saving measures are prolonging the obvious. The paperwork takes less than 5 minutes and is not like purchasing a house or auto.. On very rare occasions the patient is able to come back off hospice, although I've never known a patient who did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You are getting medical coding issues confused with medicaid/medicare fraud. Coding for profit and convenience is the norm and has been since your boy LBJ started the great society that has us where we are today.
I wasn’t talking about applying for hospice - I was talking about the CARES act not applying to hospice patients because they are not getting treatment for COVID.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
My father-in-law has been the process, and my mother-in-law is in hospice care now. I do understand how it works. And I do know someone that has come off hospice, but that is a fairly unique situation.
Improper coding is a basis for Medicare fraud. Saying a patient died of COVID where that was not the case to get 20% premium would not be wise. Stupid risk to take.
According to many reports (one of your terms) improper coding coding of China Virus is the norm and has been since back in March.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Considering that state run hospitals and private facilities that depended on normal conditions to make a profit or even to break even were disrupted by the false need for bed space and vents the feds and states will, IMO, overlook the things they've already encouraged them to do like coding to show the China Virus as much as possible.
Oh, and it would be easy for the coroner to label a hospice patient "death by China Virus". Unless the family balked on the cause of death, who cares? The death tally needs to be as high as possible to make the "pandemic" appear lethal and not a government over reaction.
My daughter just reminded me she interned at that facility when she was earning her license for CNA, back a few years ago. I remember now her telling me how frustrating it was trying to get the staff to respond to requests for help on behalf of patients. When her internship was met and she was licensed that facility offered her a fulltime position. She declined opting to accept an offer from another facility.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
And she just shook her head in disgust reading the complaint.
So what incentive does the coroner have to label the death a COVID death if it was not?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Coroners want the pandemic to look worse than it is?
I don’t follow the logic of this ever evolving conspiracy theory.
:laugh::laugh: Is the bolded part a joke? YES! Of course, I am accusing SOME OF THEM of unethical and illegal practices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Question:
- Is it unethical or illegal for Doctors in Louisiana to over prescribe medicines? This happens all the time. And I've had a front row view of this with friends/relatives
- Is it unethical or illegal for Doctors to recommend prescription medicines that they receive financial kickbacks for prescribing --or financial incentives to sell-- in their practice? I know for a fact this happens.
- Is it unethical or illegal for a male doctor to have sex with a female nurse in the storage room or patient room of a major hospital in Louisiana WHILE ON DUTY? I'm guessing, yes! I'm gonna also guess that the Hippo oath also applies here too. And yet, I know of one doctor in Louisiana that has done this numerous times in the past.
I only mention these scenarios to point out the absurdity in saying, "Oh, he won't check the box as a Covid death when it really wasn't because, 1) he's a doctor, and 2) he took a Hippocratic oath." That's truly laughable.
You need to lose the "God Complex" you have for doctors. Doctors are just people too. Granted, most doctors are REALLY GOOD people, and great professionals. But if you think there aren't some stinkers out there in the medical practice world --just like there are in any other kind of business-- you're sadly mistaken.
I don’t have a god complex view of doctors, but I don’t think they want to risk jail time for a 20 percent premium.
FIFY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
May 16Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
34,117 cases 2413 deaths testing rate at 13.1%
1,028 in hosp 123 on vents
The coroner announces what the doctors (really the nurse on duty) tells them the chart says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The logic is that it's a money grab at the very least.
There is no risk. Your people will protect them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Are you saying Barr’s DOJ is not up to the job?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
He'll get to it after he finishes draining the swamp.
Colorado is probably the only state that was over counting...
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-...KdzLk7rq3dIM9g
I've been saying this for 6 weeks and GooberBoy (who obviously doesn't work for a living because he posts all day long) has been demanding proof while making counter allegations and denying everything. Credible sources across the US have been reporting this for weeks...its happening everywhere...over counting test subjects and deaths. GooberBoy call me stupid in March when I repeated what many doctors were saying: this will turn out the be about the same as a bad flu season. TDS is a terrible thing to have!Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Wrong. You have been talking about death certificates falsely identifying deaths as COVID related.Quote:
Originally Posted by CARTEK
In Colorado, the issue was that the State Department of Heath were reporting some deaths as being COVID caused deaths when the death certificates said otherwise.Quote:
Bullshit! Multiple reports from attending doctors and staff of people swabbing positive but dying of gunshot, vehicle accident, slip and fall, etc. having "Covid-related" on the death certificate.
Maybe FoxNews didn’t clarify this point for some reason.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.den...hs-may-15/amp/
Is the problem only in Colorado? Why would the Dept. of Health do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
No. Everybody's riding the Federal money train right now. You can expect a lot of "adjustments" to these death statistics over the coming months and year. Especially when those audits start drawing closer and closer. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle2180
You need to talk to a coroner and see what instructions they have on cause of death. What I have is 4th hand so I’ll not repeat it. It does warrant investigation though.
I’m sure it can all be explained as an innocent mistake. Most likely someone just fat fingered the codes. 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Not sure why it would be hard to follow the published guidelines on how to report deaths. Maybe they didn’t read them?Quote:
Originally Posted by tech70
So what is going to be your excuse when the death counts go up?Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
You really can’t be that naive, can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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Originally Posted by tech70
The coroner writes down what the staff tells them to write down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Sounds like a nice job.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Why would an elected official in Louisiana who is not required to be a medical doctor be allowed to determine cause of death?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I didn’t say they did, but you made them sound like just a secretary.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Most secretaries make more money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
May 17Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
34,432 cases 2,425 deaths testing rate at 13.0%
1,019 in hosp 111 on vents
Just in case GooberBoy missed it:
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So, everyone who's listed as a COVID death doesn't mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had COVID at the time of the death,” Ezike said.
"You could be driving home and be in an auto accident and die from that," Darren Bailey, a Republican Illinois lawmaker suing Gov. JB Pritzker to reopen the state, told WAND-TV on Monday. "And if you had COVID-19 in your system, that death gets labeled as COVID."
The next day, Ezike offered clarification. She told reporters that Illinois was not counting those whose COVID-19 infection had nothing to do with their death.
“We are trying to make sure that things that aren’t related at all to the COVID diagnosis are removed, but if someone has another illness, like heart disease, and then had a stroke or other event, it’s not as easy to separate that and say COVID didn’t exacerbate that existing illness. That would not be removed from the count,” she said.