Turn Off the NFL

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Originally Posted by glm47

Also funny you didn't mention Asians or middle eastern Indians, who seem to be able to do quite well here.

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What is a "Middle Eastern Indian"?

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Originally Posted by dawg80

No, that's not my argument. I don't know how to make it simple enough for your feeble mind to grasp. So, forget it. You're the clueless one with your head up George Soros' ass.

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I agree!!! He has a bad case of cranial rectal inversion!

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

What is a "Middle Eastern Indian"?

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India is in Asia.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

India is in Asia.

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Figured that's where you were going.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

FWIW, the players don't have a right to do this in the setting they are doing it in. They are at work. Their employers are allowing it to happen.

Funny to see the owners and TV execs squirm now. I LOVE it! One crazy comment from President Trump and the whole sorted mess comes to a head.

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They don't lose the right because they're at work. They are not protected from speech related termination, but their first amendment rights are in tact while on the clock.

I think your bigger point is true...the NFL is in favor of the players being free to protest in this fashion.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

You suddenly believe in "trickle down":icon_razz:

Seriously, I think we will see some college players taking a knee soon. It will happen.

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How about the Pee Wee league: https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/20/1...youth-football

I received some texts today asking my thoughts on the NFL situation and some were from folks who read and post on here. Well, I'd say I was done with the NFL before Kaepernick hit the scene.

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

That's not the same as what you posted. If you think it's simple, I don't think you understand it...whether you agree or disagree with the course of action or even the material issues, it's not simple. Not even close.

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Respectfully, I disagree.

It is simple because it's a simple charge- that racism is inseperable from the United States as it currently exists. Kaepernick is not saying the police are racist, or that the NFL is racist. He's saying the country is racist, hence the protest of its anthem.

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Originally Posted by HogDawg

:icon_roll: Why would it be small minded and unvirtuous to mobilize AGAINST the protesters who stood for the BRITISH national anthem today in London, but would not stand for the AMERICAN national anthem played in the same venue? I don't agree with that kind of behavior. I think their behavior is childish, petulant, and ignorant of everything our flag and nation stands for. I have a right to say what I think just like they do.

Standing for the British national anthem only goes to show you the outright ignorance of these "player protestors". Britain was built on the backs of slaves and has long embraced a social class system that --like many of us-- these players would likely never be able to live and thrive comfortably in. They stood for THAT? :laugh:

I wonder if those same "football player" protesters --who have it better in America than literally anywhere in the world-- would agree to MOVE to England? Oh wait....no NFL there? That shouldn't be a problem, if they really believe in their cause. Let's see how badly they really want to take a stand. :laugh:

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I don't understand why people who are protesting the national anthem by kneeling are upset with those who offended by people who disagree with them? If they can be offended by some statue and have they removed, we are not allowed to be offended by anything that we disagree with? Guess it only works one way...:furious3:

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Originally Posted by FriscoDog

I don't understand why people who are protesting the national anthem by kneeling are upset with those who offended by people who disagree with them? If they can be offended by some statue and have they removed, we are not allowed to be offended by anything that we disagree with? Guess it only works one way...:furious3:

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How do you know that the protesters are upset by those that are offended? They are protesting unequal treatment - not offense.

Kind of funny and sad to watch how you guys construct and contort the position of the protesters to avoid recognizing their legitimate grievances and to rally around our dotard president.

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Originally Posted by LATechBanjo

Respectfully, I disagree.

It is simple because it's a simple charge- that racism is inseperable from the United States as it currently exists. Kaepernick is not saying the police are racist, or that the NFL is racist. He's saying the country is racist, hence the protest of its anthem.

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I don't buy Kaepernick as spokesperson, but even in what he said your summary of his charge doesn't necessarily follow from his statements.

Didn't Benjamin Watson wrote about the protests?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Kind of funny and sad to watch how you guys construct and contort the position of the protesters to avoid recognizing their legitimate grievances and to rally around our dotard president.

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Thanks for your help. Please tell us again what the protest is about. Poor treatment of blacks by those who have died to protect them? They are not protesting the confederate flag. You know that don't you?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

India is in Asia.

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Okay, not stated very clearly by me. But you know where I was going.

Why did you exclude Japanese-Americans, Chinese Americans, Vietnamese Americans, and Indian Anericansfrom your list of mistreated Americans? They are not white.