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. Thanks for posting the truth! None of them should be allowed back this year. They knew they had to take the test and didn’t care who they harmed. Obviously Skip didn’t address this harshly enough when they failed the first time! Winning is important, but they easily could have won against some of the crappy teams we played sitting them for a game the first time. The picture would have been clearer for them about the results now.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Maybe Skippy is trying to be their friend, not their coach.
I know from experience you can't cross that line as a head coach. There has to be an arm's-length distance between a coach and his players (or a shorter distance in the case of a certain former Techster coach, ahem...). Once a coach becomes "friends" with his players, it's over.
That's not at all what I said. Athletes were smokin' weed when you and I were at Tech back in the 70s. We lost two of our best athletes to drug issues back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Some guys can't be monitored or helped. Some coaches (Holtz) don't care enough about the players, team, or overall program to stay on top of the players who can cause problems.
Skip Holtz has done this twice now. He suspended 6 starters --for academic reasons-- right before LA Tech's 2104 appearance in the CUSA Championship game. Now he has suspended 3 more starters for undisclosed reasons, on the eve of an extremely important road game that held many conference title implications. He lost both games.
Do you guys know how RARELY this happens to a school once, much less twice? In only a 5-yr timeframe, no less?
I'm starting to think Skip Holtz finds some kind of sick pleasure from suspending important starters just before important games. Before you laugh, note that his daddy did it back in 1977 when he suspended 3 starters just before his Arkansas team played and beat #2 ranked Oklahoma 31-6 in the 1978 Orange Bowl. After that, Lou Holtz was forever remembered as a great coach, who wasn't afraid to "do the right thing". Lou Holtz even got the Notre Dame job because of this.
Doing something similar becomes a no lose situation for Skip. Rinse and repeat. If his team wins without the suspended starters, he's a hero (like daddy). If he loses the game, well he can't be held accountable because, "Oh well, he didn't have all his starters playing".
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-91a8b99759a8/
I can be easily convinced that all of these screwups are on purpose. It is just too predictable. No other team has the consistency of bad luck that we doQuote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Are you sure Skip had a choice?
I think Skip is a lot smarter than his bosses if that's what you meanQuote:
Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
HD those players flunked out in 2014. He didn't suspend them. Four of them were jucos who didn't even go to class.
We won't know if he lost any this year until Winter Quarter begins.
Miss St suspended 4 announced today. It happens everywhere. Given the high profile of two of ours, that is abnormal. Don’t KNOW who that’s on. None of the stories being pushed are 100% internally consistent.
Doesn’t matter. It’s over. I’ll watch the last few games, but my interest has been severely dampened.
So they were suspended the DAY AFTER they played Bama? That'll show 'em. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Do we even know who they are, what positions they play, or what they were suspended for? I'm guessing you're going to tell me "no". ;)
If you look in the top left corner of posts, they are date stamped. They suspended the 4 BEFORE the BAMA game. I don’t know who they are because I don’t follow MS State. They were suspended for the same reason our guys were...for violating team rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Amazing the number of booster and fans that are walking away and / or ready to burn down the athletic program then rebuild.
Not really when you think about how many times we have done this rinse and repeat. Get headed in the right direction and then blow our own feet off. Most of the die hard fans have seen this so many times, and blind loyalty on gets you so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by faninmonroe
I think everyone would agree that people wouldn’t be this worked up if some outside force had us derailed over and over. We would be pissed, but not like we are when it is self inflicted, whether it be at the player level or at the president level.
Mississippi State Football SuspensionsQuote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Clempson
AlerBama
To me, the issue is not "does this happen anywhere but Tech?"
It's that "why does this happen at Tech at the most strategic times, in creative and new ways each time, on a consistent and extremely predictable basis?" That's the question we need to answer.