This came out in the amazing hearing that Sen. Ron Johnson hosted on Monday. That hearing was so good that a sequel is being planned.
Whistleblower bombshell: DOD medical data reveals surges in oft-cited vax 'adverse events' in 2021 | Just The News
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This came out in the amazing hearing that Sen. Ron Johnson hosted on Monday. That hearing was so good that a sequel is being planned.
Whistleblower bombshell: DOD medical data reveals surges in oft-cited vax 'adverse events' in 2021 | Just The News
I agree, I was on the road and listened to a good deal of the 5 hours of discussion. The 40 minute synopsis doesn’t do it justice.
Guess poor triple-vaxed Justin needed to quarantine after all.
Justin Trudeau Tests Positive for Coronavirus as Anti-Mandate Truckers Hit Ottawa (breitbart.com)
In case you missed it. This is from someone on the ground. Not someone playing scientist in a lab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SVO0lc_1_o
No words...Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Republicans attract crazy like moths to a flame, because they give them their 15 minutes of fame.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Except this was over 5 hours of the best in their respective fields. These people are smarter than you and more experienced. Trust them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The biggest difference between me and you is that I don’t put trust in crazies.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
As we have said multiple times. The world was flat until some crazy people learned the truth. Blood letting with leeches was accepted practice until crazy people learned better. How many more people were assumed to be crazy until the rest of the world caught up?
Says the guy who has been all about masking up...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
How's the Biden experiment going for you?
Gasoline will be $4 here in a few months thanks to the globalist views you people hold.
I'll let you know, as I see most of the world in my rearview mirror! Hah!Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Your credibility just took another hit. Keep digging that hole, bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
For context, you are not watching a hearing in that video. You are watching an excerpt of a panel of Covid conspiracy theorists that Ron Johnson self-selected to support a major theme of his re-election campaign strategy. There are no part-of-the-consensus medical professionals there. This is a list of The Who’s Who of debunked conspiracy theorists from viral videos of the past 2 years. I have been honestly surprised with how low Republicans have been willing to go, putting the public health in jeopardy, in order to find a message that resonates with their base. A base that unfortunately prefers to feed on a diet of non-reality, I guess because reality just became too damn inconvenient during the Trump administration.
There are thousands of real experts with real gold standard studies that you guys won’t trust, but you put your faith in wackos that use big words incorrectly. I can’t help you guys if you can’t learn from your mistakes. This stuff really shouldn’t be over your heads.
Or you could pay 1/4 that (on a per gallon equivalency) to recharge an EV.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Gasoline prices dropped to around $1 during the pandemic when demand fell through the floor. Could have stocked up then. Or people would have even payed you to take oil off their hands at one point.
Needless to say that sort of demand shock has caused the O&G industry to exercise much more balance sheet discipline coming out of the pandemic.
Sounds like you have a problem with capitalism, not globalism.
Right, this increase has nothing to do with the preferred globalist source of oil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I don’t want consensus. I don’t want majority opinion. That’s what got us into this mess. The CDC, FDA, WHO, and AMA are the problem. I want to get it right and those folks got people well when they were allowed to practice. Most of them got fired because they did their jobs well and the egos over their heads couldn’t handle it. Again, just because an opinion is consensus, it may still be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And the reason he had to get those people in a room was because the MSM and big pharma have squashed their voice and that is more unAmerican than anything each of them has done.
Truth!Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
You are confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/23/why-...ite-house.html
Well, if you spent half the time that you spent following misinformation sources reading the actual much much larger randomized controlled studies (scientific gold standard), you would understand why the consensus actually thinks what it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
You mean like studying the effect of Hydroxy or Ivermectin on a small sample of hospitalized patients under the age of 50 when we already knew that we had few hospitalized people under 50, and we knew those meds are for early intervention. Only to have the gold standard study declare that those drugs don’t work at all when in reality, they didn’t intend to conduct a meaningful study to start with?
If that’s the gold standard, you can shove it.
What about the study out if Johns Hopkins that says lockdowns didn’t do anything to help curb the virus? Is a Johns Hopkins study valid or is it thrown out because it doesn’t support the narrative?
You would be less confused if you spent less time to following people that promote conspiracy theories.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
The studies conclusively proved HCQ doesn’t work. The earlier anecdotes suffered from the type of selection bias that demonstrate the importance of RANDOMIZATION in control trials.
Ivermectin studies may or may not result in the same final conclusion, but the evidence for its effectiveness has not yet been demonstrated, scientifically.
If you want to rely so heavily on consensus, then why do you keep arguing when you are 1 of 3 on this board, and actually 1 of 3 people I know of who won’t believe the real world results all these good PRACTICIANS are seeing? It’s consensus, right? Just going by majority rule. That’s the standard, right?
I wouldn’t conflate an epidemiological study about policy response with a clinical study of drug effectiveness.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
The Johns Hopkins study is only of limited value, really, because it doesn’t really answer how lockdown responses may or may not work as part of a larger coherent strategy. The same study showed shelter in place reduced deaths by 3%.
I already pointed you to another website that lets you play the pandemic game from the perspective of a policy maker that is built on epidemiological data. When you play with the various policy response you can see the impacts on population health and economy when doing different responses. Depending on your value judgment as to health vs economic well being, there is an optimal curve that you can try to hit that maximizes one while minimizing the impact on the other. Very hard to hit the optimal curve because the optimal requires that you do various policies in different times for different lengths of times.
Your geographic circle must be narrow. 90% of the people I know would roll their eyes at you. The other 10% are those crazy Trumpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Maybe both our circles are incredibly narrow minded. That’s a problem for each of us.
Gotta watch those opinions. You know, since we have decades of research about this virus, the treatments, and the long term affects of all treatments. You don’t want to be banned.
Looks like that 4th jab isn't working out so well in Israel.
’80 percent of serious Covid cases are fully Vaccinated’… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS
Duh! A fifth jab will do the trick, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
In 3 years, the quad and quint vaxed will look like Sloth from Goonies.
Now all of the studies are catching up with the truth that was evident two years ago.
COVID: Vitamin D deficiency pre-infection may lead to severe corona case - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)
Bunch of crazy people who are making discoveries. Just a load of crap.
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You have been putting your faith in Fauci and others like him Fauci has an ego even bigger than yours.. and he has done nothing but screw this up, LIE to Congress, and Cover his ass.. There are many emails that are now surfacing under FOIA that show he knew back in 2020 where virus originated and also emails saying that that "theory" or info had to be squashed. He believes he personally saved hundreds of thousands or millions of lives, where actually he probably cost thousands of lives because of what he was pushing. Fauci gets royalties from Pfizer and Moderna.. why do you think he's pushing the vaccine? He certainly isn't getting rich from his restaurant in San Fran.
Obvious child abuse. Anyone involved with a teaching certification should have that canceled permanently.
California High School Barricades Maskless Children in Gym, Staffer Turns Down Thermostat to "Freeze Them Out" (thegatewaypundit.com)
Fauci doesn’t get royalties from Moderna and Pfizer. You are incredibly dumb for falling for that lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Speaking of Fauci and switching gears to his previous work. Very possible the CCP virus jabs are contributing as immune systems are being compromised in ways that we don't yet fully understand.
New Highly Virulent HIV Variant Detected in Netherlands - Could Cause People to Develop AIDS More Quickly (thegatewaypundit.com)
When the media worldwide starts reporting the truth, you know it is just a matter of time.
"We Failed" - Danish Newspaper Admits Failure and Apologizes for Not Questioning the Government's COVID-19 Narrative (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)
Bill Maher: "I'm Just Asking, How Much Wrong Do You Get to Be While Still Holding the Default Setting for People Who Represent 'The Science'" (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)
You must have agreed with the rest of my post because this is all you attacked.. You still have to work hard to gain credibility because you have been so wrong for so long on almost everything..Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
LOL! Goosey's credibility is measured on the Kelvin scale.... negative! Some people...and that includes libs and the lamestream media and others like them...have "little" credibility. Goosey beats 'em all with negative credibility. He is a black hole sucking credibility from others.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I think he does a lot of it on purpose, just to stir the pot. No one can be as stupid as he appears.
I am just calling out your ignorant lies, not your stupid opinions. There is no fixing your stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Your lies, and stupidity have been well documented on this board.. as well as your narcissism. It's time to go back to therapy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Doctor's organization has had 99.99% success with early treatment of covid-19 using hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and other drugs not approved by CDC. https://www.theepochtimes.com/doctor...alth-2022-02-0 This group has treated over 150,000 patients with covid 19.
Next phase of the coverup....
US Department of health officially ENDS recording COVID deaths daily after toll surpasses 900,000 | Daily Mail Online
A lot of people have died because of the CDC and that little turd Fauci. Fauci financed the whole research by the chinese that made the virus. That sob should be tried for multiple murders.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
And also sued by victims of the virus, who deserve 100% of his net wealth and future earnings as he rots in prison.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
To be fair, that’s not really a large number of patients. I mean, it is 150,000 or so more than Fauci has ever treated, but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by DONW
Not a study at all. Not even data. No control. Hell, they said they even used monoclonal antibodies as part of the treatment, which has actually been shown to be effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
I know people personally who were denied antibody treatment but were given the 2 meds we aren’t allowed to mention and they were better in 48 hours. Many others have same story. Why is it such a bad thing for us all to acknowledge that we don’t know anything about this virus and anything that works is good? Why can we not acknowledge that we know nothing about the treatments as to long term affects outside of the 2 meds we can’t name which have less side affects than a Flintstones vitamin? Just admit you are being led around like a bridled horse by big pharma and doctors who are making bank off these treatments.
130 doctors send letter to Boris Johnson about how he mishandled treatment of children. It will cause permanent problems. https://www.theepochtimes.com/130-uk...3bdt7PN1whHBrU
Many people get better without taking anything at all. That is why they do randomized control trials. Being ignorant about it a choice you have made for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
In other news, water is wet. Of course some people can recover without any intervention. That’s the point! Everyone is different. Pretending there is a one size fits all solution for this is idiotic, but you know that and want to argue anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And randomized control trials proves what works and what doesn’t. Anecdotes don’t because you aren’t testing against any alternatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
CDC admitting serious vaccine side effects in their latest discussions. Just about a year too late though.
CDC Considers Upping Time Between Shots to Cut Risk of Heart Issues (breitbart.com)
I’ll take “things we would know if there was long term research for $1,000”.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Advertising that vaccination is best way to prevent long Covid. With less than 2 years of data, how do they know?
It wasn’t a question about the length of the research, rather the sample size. Myocarditis is a rare side effect from the vaccine, much rarer than getting myocarditis from Covid infection. If you get myocarditis, it doesn’t take super long to present or anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0
Governors know if they keep lockdowns they will get crushed in Nov.. Biden doesn't care because even the DNC doesn't expect him to run again in 2024. The CDC won't change their position because they LOVE their new powers that they have been given and will not give them up without a fight..Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
Dems are all about power, getting it and trying to keep it. More proof...in case you needed it...is this sudden reversal on mask mandates. They know "voters" are fed up and the Dems are already looking at a bloodbath in the mid-terms so they are attempting to minimize the damage. Remember too that Dems don't see people as "citizens" or as "Americans" or some such noble description. Nope! Dems only see you as a "voter." It's all about the politics.
Dems are despicable.
Turns out it isn’t mild. Just milder than delta.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
It was a freekin' 4 day cold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Give or take, but yes. Sneeze, cough, blow your nose, and get over it. It’s a shame that we keep seeing doctors married to government being the only voices allowed in the room. If you have everything to gain and nothing to lose, you might be a lefty spouting talking points.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
For most people. For many others, particularly the unvaxxed, it meant hospitalization and/or death.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
With what comorbidities that would also result in hospitalization or death when coupled with thousands of other illnesses?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Covid is the straw that broke the camel’s back for these folks. They wouldn’t be in the hospital or dying now from those very common comorbidities that most people live with for decades. I guess dying 10+ years earlier isn’t a big deal for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Point missed again. Covid happens to be the illness they were diagnosed with that, coupled with significant health issues, put them in the hospital. Are there no other illnesses that land you in the hospital if you are already sick?
That isn’t what is happening to cause so many more people to be in the hospitals. Just use your noggin a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Bull Shit! Those who never got shots had colds just like those of us who had the shots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You are an idiot! There was never a "vax". There were shots.
Ask DfM.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.new...674056%3famp=1
I am surprised you don’t know these facts.
Facts? Propaganda laced with misinformation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
No coincidence here if these young athletes had the experimental jabs. Profund tragedy in any case.
Texas Sophomore and Illinois Senior High School Students Tragically Pass Away After Collapsing During Basketball Games on Same Night (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)
The start of the experimental vaccine rollback.
Pfizer and BioNTech Delay FDA Request for Children Under the Age of 5 (breitbart.com)
Why would you even begin to assume there is any connection? What is wrong with you? High school athletes collapse and die every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDawg