Really! You were being told it was going on, but refused to believe it because of your crush on Comey and the deep state (that you said did not exist)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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Really! You were being told it was going on, but refused to believe it because of your crush on Comey and the deep state (that you said did not exist)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
And it has only become more clear that their was sufficient evidence to justify an investigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Sufficient evidence of what? Tax evasion and loan fraud by one of his helpers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
NOTHING on Russia, unless they choose to check out your obese hero Hillary.
Loads of smoke around contacts with Russia and Trump campaign, particularly around Wikileaks and polling data. And then all the lies by all of the Trump campaign folks when asked about the Russian contacts. Then, of course, Trumps own statements and behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Why don’t you comment on Trump’s obesity? Why only fat-shame a woman?
Several weeks ago you were saying it was a easy call for the "special" prosecutor. What's up with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Sorry if Trump being over weight does not bother me as much as Hillary's fat lesbian ass has for the past 20 plus years.
My mind hasn’t changed. What are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
More and more indisputable evidence is being exposed with each passing day now that, under the Obama administration, the DOJ, CIA, and the FBI were all totally corrupt. No matter how hard the mainstream media tries to ignore this evidence, the issue is not going to simply go away. Criminals like James Comey, Loretta Lynch, and John Brennan, plus dozens of people that worked for them, are going to be indicted. Hopefully, Hillary and Obama will both have to answer for their high crimes and treason as well. Every single one of those found guilty of treason should face a firing squad.
So far it has only been shown that the Trump campaign had the criminals.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
Do they ask for volunteers to serve on these firing squads? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
I would say that by those standards there is plenty of evidence to support an investigation into the DOJ and FBI and their handling of the Russia probe, the Clinton email scandal, the Clinton foundation, GPS fusion and the Steele dossier etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I feel like even after two years I'm still missing something on the Russia story.
1. Russia spread false stories about Hillary Clinton- I absolutely believe they did this but I honestly don't know any examples of what stories they spread and how big of an effect they had.
2. Wikileaks released the internal DNC emails squired through hacking and reportedly connected to the russians- This was certainly damaging, but it wasn't fake items as far as i know.
3. Russians attempted to hack voting machines to change votes: as far as we know they were unsuccessful
4. Russians attempted to buy influence in the administration to potentially affect policy.
To me 1 is not a big deal and I wouldn't be surprised if this happens on a regular basis. As a matter of fact we know that foreign governments attempt to influence elections on a regular basis including our own. It wouldn't shock me to find out that Trump or a subordinate encouraged this behavior. I think you can easily argue that the Clinton campaign did something similar with the Steele dossier.
2 Is a bigger deal, but I suspect again that attempts are made at something like this in almost every election. We don't know if there was coordination with the Trump campaign, but this wouldn't shock me either. I don't have a lot of sympathy because it's there job to make sure their data is secure and if they look bad because their secrets are exposed that's just tough cookies IMO.
3 is a bigger deal still. If the Trump campaign coordinated, encouraged, or directed these attempts then that would be shocking and worthy of a multiyear investigation.
4. Is probably the biggest deal to me although again I suspect this goes on with every administration with mixed success. Sadly this (actually affecting policy) wouldn't shock me and while I want this heavily pursued and eliminated, I don't have faith that the authorities would pursue this with anything approaching fairness. If they are only going to enforce this against one side of the political isle I'm not sure I want them enforcing it at all.
Besides item #3 I don't know that there are any conclusions that the Russia investigation can provide that would significantly alter my perception. If they come up with nothing I will simply doubt their effectiveness and their own actions have already proven that this was politically influenced if not politically motivated.
You omitted perhaps the two biggest parts of the story:
1. The meeting at Trump Tower over the planned quid pro quo.
2. The Trump campaign supplying internal polling data to the Russians to help the target key voters/districts.
Funny...they supposedly used social media. Primarily FB. Your people would tend to believe what they read on the internet about Hillary's good side, but Trump voters already knew what a lying fat bitch she was. They didn't have to read it on FB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
That is where you get the false info in the first place. That and State TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
What came out prior to the election that made people vote for Trump over Hillary?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Who put out the false narrative on Hillary? Why did her sheeple believe it?
They only evidence of Russia dealings are Hillary's camp regarding the dossier. Brain dead McCain was involved in that one.
Then you are truly not following all of the events that have unfolded in the last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp