Re: More persecution of Christians
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johnnylightnin
21 (A)“Not everyone who (B)says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will (C)enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who (D)does the will of my Father who is in heaven.22 (E)On that day (F)many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not (G)prophesy in your name, and cast out demons (H)in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’23 (I)And then will I declare to them, ‘I (J)never knew you; (K)depart from me, (L)you workers of lawlessness.’
So Christians can’t commit murder? I thought Christians believe they are sinners.
But the larger point is that Christians also can’t blame Islam for terrorists that practice beliefs that are inconsistent with those Muslims that believe that it is wrong to kill those that don’t follow Allah.
Re: More persecution of Christians
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Guisslapp
But the larger point is that Christians also can’t blame Islam for terrorists that practice beliefs that are inconsistent with those Muslims that believe that it is wrong to kill those that don’t follow Allah.
I'm good with that.
Here's one that also applies to the act in question:
19 Now (AJ)the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality,20 idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, (AK)divisions,21 envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that (AL)those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Re: More persecution of Christians
One can be a sinner without being a murderer.
And again, we are speaking to the systemic philosophies of the two religions (if one wishes to label Christianity as a "religion," it is more a "relationship"). To be a "good" Christian one has to follow the teaching of our Lord, and that means adhering to the 5th Commandment, "Thou Shall Not Kill." Rejecting that makes one a bad person. On the flip side, to be a "good" Muslim, one must follow the Koran and that means to murder the infidels. Refusing to follow that edict, makes one a "bad" Muslim.
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dawg80
One can be a sinner without being a murderer.
And again, we are speaking to the systemic philosophies of the two religions (if one wishes to label Christianity as a "religion," it is more a "relationship"). To be a "good" Christian one has to follow the teaching of our Lord, and that means adhering to the 5th Commandment, "Thou Shall Not Kill." Rejecting that makes one a bad person. On the flip side, to be a "good" Muslim, one must follow the Koran and that means to murder the infidels. Refusing to follow that edict, makes one a "bad" Muslim.
That is just your definitions for Muslim and Christian. There are others that consider themselves Muslim or Christian that define the label differently. That is the point.
Re: More persecution of Christians
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Guisslapp
That is just your definitions for Muslim and Christian. There are others that consider themselves Muslim or Christian that define the label differently. That is the point.
Biblical definitions are the standard.
And again, a person can claim to be a frog but a frog they aren't.
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TYLERTECHSAS
Biblical definitions are the standard.
And again, a person can claim to be a frog but a frog they aren't.
Well, the Bible never actually says the word “Christian.” Maybe you should read it...after you read the Mueller report.
Re: More persecution of Christians
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
That is just your definitions for Muslim and Christian. There are others that consider themselves Muslim or Christian that define the label differently. That is the point.
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Biblical definitions are the standard.
And again, a person can claim to be a frog but a frog they aren't.
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Guisslapp
Well, the Bible never actually says the word “Christian.” Maybe you should read it...after you read the Mueller report.
Wrong again Guisslapp my friend.
Acts 11:26
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
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Acts 26:28
Then Agrippa said to Paul, “Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”
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1 Peter 4:16
However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
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Here are others referencing "Believers in Jesus Christ" which are obviously Christians.
https://www.biblegateway.com/quickse...qs_version=NIV
Re: More persecution of Christians
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TYLERTECHSAS
You’re right. Now read the Mueller report.
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And again liberals and their media will ignore.
700 ROCKETS, 4 DEAD ISRAELIS: IS THE IRON DOME GETTING WORSE?
https://images.jpost.com/image/uploa...eDetect/429166
Over the course of the weekend, Hamas and Islamic Jihad launched nearly 700 rockets from Gaza at Israel, killingfour people and injuring more than 200. According to Haaretz, of the 690 rockets launched from Gaza, Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system intercepted 240.
The number of unintercepted rockets and Israeli fatalities sparked inquiry about the effectiveness of Iron Dome, and whether Hamas and Islamic Jihad have found a way to thwart the system.
Hamas was quick to declare that it had achieved victory, overwhelming Israeli defenses with concentrated barrages of projectiles.
“The Qassam Brigades, thanks to God, succeeded in overcoming the so-called Iron Dome by adopting the tactic of firing dozens of missiles in one single burst,” a spokesman for Hamas’s Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades said in a social media post quoted by The Times of Israel. “The high intensity of fire and the great destructive ability of the missiles that were introduced by the Qassam [Brigades] … succeeded in causing great losses and destruction to the enemy.”
The number of Israeli civilians killed in the two-day conflict was only one fewer than during 2014’s Operation Protective Edge, a struggle of nearly two months, when Palestinian factions lobbed more than 4,500 projectiles at Israeli cities.
At the time, the Israel Defense Forces said that its Iron Dome batteries had managed to knock down 90 percent of the rockets within their coverage zones — a rate of success disputed by some critics. The IDF claimed a similar level of success this time, too, telling reporters that it had achieved an 86 percent kill rate and that only 35 projectiles landed in populated areas.
https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...g-worse-589115
700 ROCKETS, 4 DEAD ISRAELIS: IS THE IRON DOME GETTING WORSE?
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Re: More persecution of Christians
Did you see the video, from a phone it looks like, of that Israeli family in a car trying to escape the rocket barrage? Wow! Terrifying. You can hear the screams of the kids and the dad, who was driving, trying to both drive to avoid incoming rockets and also keep his family as calm as possible. Remarkable.
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Re: More persecution of Christians
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Guisslapp
I see that you are on a "anti-religion" and pro-gay rant and mood today.
Obviously this guy isn't a true Christian. None, zero, nada would preach or say "execute members of the LGBTQ community" or "death to the gays". Islam does this but not true bible believing Christianity. Just a fact.
So I will double post again.
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Guisslapp
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dawg80
This guy agrees with Islamists. Kill all gays.
I don't agree with this at all. I believe you "hate the sin, but love the sinner." Murder violates the 5th Commandment. God will judge all of us. If He deems homosexuality to be a sin, then He will judge them accordingly.
I condemn this guy's position on this issue.
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techman05
This guy is nuts. Like so many preachers who teach half the truth. Is it wrong, yes. Is God clear on the consequence, yes. Is it our job to carry out the sentence for this sin, no.
If true, I totally agree 110% with dawg80 and techman05 statements above. At least conservatives agree and will admit that this man is sick and mislead, like Islam, if indeed he stated these comments. Liberal Dems never admit any of their "sick sheep fold" is bat smit crazy. That said, the GOP would never claim room for this type speech of thought. In fact, I would give it about a 50% chance this "Kill all gays" Fritz dude is conflicted and potentially bisexual or has gay tendencies himself. Hey, just a thought.
BTW, here is where and to how many this sicko "preached to".
"The church Fritts leads operates out of a storefront in Knoxville. WATE attended a service on June 12 and reported 16 people attended."
Not exactly the number of folks like the left's "community organizing" via social media violent riots like Afad and some of the radical black movements and reactions to police action ect..
Oh and nobody did anything violent due to his rambled nonsence "preaching".
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Guisslapp
If True? There is a video of parts of the sermon and an interview with this Baptist preacher.
Yeppers, "if true" like I just stated above. With new high tech's ability to manufacture peoples speech and patterns and match with different video clips these days; who knows.
We are all going to have to rethink news and social media reporting, fake news and video clips.
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Yeppers, the radical muslims are just like the violent left as they persecute the Christians and the Jews alike.
Gaza 'balloon bombs' spark 19 fires in southern Israel: report
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The Daily Article • October 3, 2019
Drew Brees attacked for supporting ‘Bring Your Bible to School Day’: Do non-Christians need Jesus?
New Orleans Saints quarterback Drew Brees recently recorded a short video encouraging students to participate. In a day when we need as many positive role models as possible, you might think Brees would be applauded for supporting biblical truth.
Not so.
Newsweek reported that Brees recorded a video “produced by anti-gay group.” Out Magazine described Focus on the Family as “Anti-Gay Extremists.” This is because they promote “biblical truths and values, reserving sexual expression for marriage between a man and a woman.”
Pastor robbed and beaten to death outside church...