Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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cscollis
Boy you really despise Trump. I hate to have to tell you this but the debate with Rubio ended when Trump correctly informed him he was the only one that has actually created jobs and hired people. Rubio did make him look bad on Obamacare but Trumps positions are more in line with America on foreign policy and immigration than Rubio and Cruz. Trump will only get stronger after this debate. The tax returns do not mean anything. He has lawyers and accountants that prepare them for him, all he does is sign it. It is similar to what I do for a living. He could be worth 10 billion and not pay any taxes if he has great accountants and lawyers and loses that carried forward. Idiots will say, he did not pay any taxes and hold it against him, I look at it as his obligation to pay as little in taxes as he can legally.
You do realize Cruz defeated Rubio's amnesty bill while, as Cruz says, "Trump was firing Dennis Rodman on 'The Apprentice.'" Cruz is stronger on illegal immigration than Trump (who will let "the good ones" back in). Just his stance on socialized medicine should make you RUN! You are buying into his personality and not his ideas. Sure he's an egomaniacal prick, and there is some appeal to that, but he's also dumb and that's a dangerous combination.
Trump looked like he didn't believe Cruz when Cruz said he has been talking about border security since he ran for Senate in 2011. Trump really thinks building a wall was his idea that he originated last year. He's a boob.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
cscollis
Boy you really despise Trump. I hate to have to tell you this but the debate with Rubio ended when Trump correctly informed him he was the only one that has actually created jobs and hired people. Rubio did make him look bad on Obamacare but Trumps positions are more in line with America on foreign policy and immigration than Rubio and Cruz. Trump will only get stronger after this debate. The tax returns do not mean anything. He has lawyers and accountants that prepare them for him, all he does is sign it. It is similar to what I do for a living. He could be worth 10 billion and not pay any taxes if he has great accountants and lawyers and loses that carried forward. Idiots will say, he did not pay any taxes and hold it against him, I look at it as his obligation to pay as little in taxes as he can legally.
That was a big deal, especially when people are hurting financially. Romney paid only a 12% tax rate while worker stiffs pay more. It was use as ammunition that the Tax code is written for the rich that have donated to politicians like Trump has. What if his tax rate is less than 10%? You can believe people will be pissed about that.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
longdawgview
That was a big deal, especially when people are hurting financially. Romney paid only a 12% tax rate while worker stiffs pay more. It was use as ammunition that the Tax code is written for the rich that have donated to politicians like Trump has. What if his tax rate is less than 10%? You can believe people will be pissed about that.
Why? Everyone should try and pay only as little as legally allowed by the IRS. I personally want to see a flat tax for all in that range of 10%. But then the 48%+ that pay zero taxes would have to actually participate and have "skin in the game". Don't be jealous or covet somebody else's success or good fortune.
These are the people creating value and jobs for others that can't. And don't talk about "fair" like Obama does. Didn't you dad or mom tell you that it's not about being fair and that "life isn't fair"? You should have learned to deal with this fact many years ago my friend.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Guisslapp
Apples and oranges, just like Christians and Muslims, are all fruits. :)
Some are and some aren't. But muslims religion, culture and mindsets are more like bitter sour lemons or rotten fruit. Christians are more like sweet watermelon (actually the Bible says "salt of the earth"). ;)
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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longdawgview
You can guarantee the Democrats will shred Trump to pieces with his taxes, Fraud University, foreign workers, and not to mention class warfare- Trump inheriting 200 million
Actually longviewdawg you just described the Klintons to a tee.........tax issues (Clinton Foundation), Mr. and Mrs HillBilly Fraud University, Foreign policy nightmare, terrible sex and class warfare, and earning $100's of millions from hate speeches and foreign governments around the world. Of course not to mention the trust gap per the Klinton lying machine, emails scandal , deaths in Benghazi, Russian restart and deaths it's caused, Libya disaster, near Egypt disaster and deaths , ISIS and it's murders on her watch, not to mention Bills pedophile and sex perv acts being back in the WH along with her enabling of Slick and the poor and minority class. She's is a sicko and maybe literally ill as well.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
Not much difference between Trump and Clinton. Power hungry and rudderless...two peas in a pod, just like that have been the past 40 years.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Why? Everyone should try and pay only as little as legally allowed by the IRS. I personally want to see a flat tax for all in that range of 10%. But then the 48%+ that pay zero taxes would have to actually participate and have "skin in the game". Don't be jealous or covet somebody else's success or good fortune.
These are the people creating value and jobs for others that can't. And don't talk about "fair" like Obama does. Didn't you dad or mom tell you that it's not about being fair and that "life isn't fair"? You should have learned to deal with this fact many years ago my friend.
Petty name calling aside. So you don't think general election voters will be upset to see Trump the billionaire that inherited 200 million dollars, has a less tax rate than the average middle class joe? That's the reaction the media will have and the Dems will spin it that way. See 2012, Romney taxes were talk about for a month.
So just chalk it up as jealousy and coventness and never do anything about it. Great advice
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Actually longviewdawg you just described the Klintons to a tee.........tax issues (Clinton Foundation), Mr. and Mrs HillBilly Fraud University, Foreign policy nightmare, terrible sex and class warfare, and earning $100's of millions from hate speeches and foreign governments around the world. Of course not to mention the trust gap per the Klinton lying machine, emails scandal , deaths in Benghazi, Russian restart and deaths it's caused, Libya disaster, near Egypt disaster and deaths , ISIS and it's murders on her watch, not to mention Bills pedophile and sex perv acts being back in the WH along with her enabling of Slick and the poor and minority class. She's is a sicko and maybe literally ill as well.
Okay.
The Dems want Trump to be the nominee and will use all the old tricks to defeat him easily in the general election.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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TYLERTECHSAS
I personally want to see a flat tax for all in that range of 10%.
Good luck with balancing the budget, repairing the infrastructure, and increasing the military budget by 50%.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
longdawgview
Petty name calling aside. So you don't think general election voters will be upset to see Trump the billionaire that inherited 200 million dollars, has a less tax rate than the average middle class joe? That's the reaction the media will have and the Dems will spin it that way. See 2012, Romney taxes were talk about for a month.
So just chalk it up as jealousy and coventness and never do anything about it. Great advice
Exactly and thank you. What tax rate do the Klinton's pay on their $200MM they've earned? No I don't care!
A flat tax of 10% for all and all corporations fix all ills. You want to talk about companies like Apple and google (Obama and liberal favs) tax rate? I don't think so. Again tax all 10% across the board.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Woof!
Good luck with balancing the budget, repairing the infrastructure, and increasing the military budget by 50%.
A flat tax of 10% for all and all corporations across the board fixes all ills.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
longdawgview
Trump- "I love the poorly educated"
He does and he hires them. :D The liberals have just pandered and abused them for power and their voting base since after FDR. Nothing has changed and they are still poor and uneducated after all of the liberal wasted plans, money and programs.
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
What I saw and I've seen at every debate so far is somebody who knows he is very weak on the issues so he mucks things up with sound bites and sniping so they can never get too deep into any one issue where he will be exposed. It's genius. But it's no way to pick a President. The networks love it because it's good for sound bites and ratings. That's why they don't let the moderators put a stop to it. The people are the ones who get screwed in the end. Rubio showed last night what happens when Trump is pressed on the issues. He folds like a cheap house of cards. Trump to his credit knows this and pivots the debate into "reality tv" because his supporters are more comfortable with reality tv than they are reality.
Shame on anyone who's buying this bullshit. You should be smarter than this. It's just like the liberals falling for Obamas kumbaya b.s. The emperor has no clothes.
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Yes! Exactly what I'm seeing. It's like a 6th grader was thrown into the debates.
Cruz: "Donald, you have said you think universal health care is great in Scotland and Canada, you give tons of money to Democrats, you say Hillary is brilliant, and you agreed with the Obama administration that Khadafy should be overthrown, yet you've remained quite on Israel. How can the American people trust you aren't a Democrat?"
Trump: "You have a big nose and your mother dresses you funny, and I was a great athlete. Now sit down and shut up Ted."
Re: 2016 Presidential Campaign
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Originally Posted by
T1
Yes! Exactly what I'm seeing. It's like a 6th grader was thrown into the debates.
Cruz: "Donald, you have said you think universal health care is great in Scotland and Canada, you give tons of money to Democrats, you say Hillary is brilliant, and you agreed with the Obama administration that Khadafy should be overthrown, yet you've remained quite on Israel. How can the American people trust you aren't a Democrat?"
Trump: "You have a big nose and your mother dresses you funny, and I was a great athlete. Now sit down and shut up Ted."
Yep. That's about the way each debate breaks down.
When Rand Paul talks about how Trump wants to expand government and how Paul will limit governments intrusion on our lives Trump makes fun of his hair. If Jeb calls him on a mistake he made, Trump responds by saying Jeb is desperate and he's only attacking Trump because he's behind in the polls. And on and on. Never, ever letting himself get dragged deep enough into a discussion on any one issue because he would be exposed for what he is. A con artist. There's nothing there. He's winning this election on cut downs and sound bites.
