Re: What is Systemic Racism?
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DawgyNWindow
Maybe you missed my comments on vouchers and school choice (without the government coming in and telling them how to run them since federal money would be going there). It is the liberals that are against this. Besides that....I went to a high school in New Orleans that was 50% black back in the mid 70s, and had many black teachers there as well. Did the black students get less of an education than I did?
After leaving New Orleans I lived in WV for about a decade and saw first hand people (white) poorer than most inner-city blacks. I am sure they suffer from redlining as well. Once the mine shuts down and the town is abandoned, their property (the collateral for the loan) becomes pretty much worthless. Of course, they don't have to be concerned that a protest mob is going to get angry and come burn their neighborhood down with all of the businesses in it.
No, I saw your comments. They seem to imply that you think the education system is not serving the black community as it should. Glad we agree.
Can't comment on the black students at your school, but I can tell you that my classes at a school with similar demographics in Alexandria were still very segregated in the honors classes. Not by law, but by practice. Why? I don't know. I've read here about a million times that it's not because I'm very smart. It's probably because my parents knew how to get me in the right classes early.
My kids are in a magnet school in Shreveport. It's a great school. Some of the top test scores in the state, diverse student population, 100% PTA membership and all that. The hoops you have to jump through to get your kids in is pretty staggering. I think that's the push back of some on the left to vouchers and school choice. There are students who will be penalized because their parents either aren't equipped or aren't able to work the system to get their kids in the higher performing schools. These are the residual effects of poor education systems that have disproportionately hurt the black community.
Re: What is Systemic Racism?
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johnnylightnin
No, I saw your comments. They seem to imply that you think the education system is not serving the black community as it should. Glad we agree.
They are learning it is not good to integrate yourself with folks with pigment lighter than yours. It's a community driven problem.
Re: What is Systemic Racism?
The Brown family of Brown University fame got rich, in part, in the slave trade of the 1840s and 50s. The father of the Brown for whom the school is named was part owner of The Wanderer, the last of the slave ships that crossed the Atlantic with over 400 souls crammed into her tight cargo holes. The slave trade had been outlawed everywhere and US and British ships patrolled trying to catch the remaining slavers. The Wanderer had been built as a racing schooner to participate in the America's Cup yacht race. She was too fast and the powerful New York elites, like Mr. Brown, paid off the right people to look the other way at times. The Wanderer was never caught and delivered her last cargo of slaves in Haiti in late 1859. The captain quit saying he had pushed his, and his crew's luck, too much and they were finished being slavers.
So, the very liberal Brown University was founded via the generous donation of the Brown family....dirty money. Tear it down...or at least, rename it.
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Re: What is Systemic Racism?
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FriscoDog
Louisiana Tech owns Alabama.
You a lsu fan?
Re: What is Systemic Racism?
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brtransplant
Why should anyone have to "humor" you, or anybody else? Believing that ALL lives matter and refusing to segregate black lives as something special does not make one racist. Segregating black lives as the only lives that matter is what is racist.
You certainly don’t have to humor me.
Funny that you use the term ‘segregating’ and ‘black lives’ in the same sentence. Not knocking you, just saying.
If you find anyone that said only black lives matter, you can call me a racist. And I’ll certainly repent for that sin.
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turbodawg
Louisiana Tech owns Alabama.
You a lsu fan?
No.. not at all.. just glad Bama's reign as been taken down a few notches.. I am an Aggies fan..
We also needed a little light hearted humor as well..
Re: What is Systemic Racism?
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Originally Posted by
johnnylightnin
No, I saw your comments. They seem to imply that you think the education system is not serving the black community as it should. Glad we agree.
Can't comment on the black students at your school, but I can tell you that my classes at a school with similar demographics in Alexandria were still very segregated in the honors classes. Not by law, but by practice. Why? I don't know. I've read here about a million times that it's not because I'm very smart. It's probably because my parents knew how to get me in the right classes early.
My kids are in a magnet school in Shreveport. It's a great school. Some of the top test scores in the state, diverse student population, 100% PTA membership and all that. The hoops you have to jump through to get your kids in is pretty staggering. I think that's the push back of some on the left to vouchers and school choice. There are students who will be penalized because their parents either aren't equipped or aren't able to work the system to get their kids in the higher performing schools. These are the residual effects of poor education systems that have disproportionately hurt the black community.
There is truth in the whole parents/family issue of not knowing how to navigate "the system." But that is equally true among poor white families, or even middle class whites without a family history of education beyond 12th grade. Sometimes students who are very determined keep seeking help...even as their parents/family either refuse to help or is incapable of helping...and they find a "mentor." My wife has helped a bunch of students, some black, some white, who want to get a college education but simply don't know how to go-about it. Yes, it's part of her job to recruit students to NSU but she has had to go "above and beyond" in many cases. Of course, other faculty members help too.
I was fortunate to attend a very good high school (Rummel, baby!) and our guidance counselors' office was immensely helpful, even though our families were already prepared to "move mountains." Too many high schools lack such dedicated staff. Brother Gale Condit (Rummel is a Christian Brothers' school) steered me toward Tech, with LSU and McNeese also on the list. He provided research on academics, % of graduates getting jobs in their chosen field, costs, scholarships available, etc...
I know you were specifically referring to lower grades, elementary school, and getting kids into the better schools. Well, you're right, as someone who did it...our daughter attended the NSU Lab School(s)...it takes persistence, and knowing someone, but mostly just never giving up. And, it takes some money since there is tuition for the lab school.
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turbodawg
Yes, all lives matter. Humor me: Just say black lives matter.
Black lives are part of all lives.
Yes and aborted babies are part of all lives.
And “Blue lives matter”.
Christ states very clearly that “All lives matter”.
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johnnylightnin
Great finishing line, "The author Douglas Preston once wrote that, 'People need history in order to know themselves.' But what if the history they write is a lie? Do they know themselves at all?"
And there lays the problem with liberal education revisionary history writing in America. The same with liberal Dem judges wanting to write unconstitutional legislation from the bench ie.. revising historic law. The same with Islam saying the Jewish Holocaust never happened.
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turbodawg
Louisiana Tech owns Alabama.
You a lsu fan?
I hate lsu’s politics and financial power, football and basketball.
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DawgyNWindow
Mount Rushmore needs to be wiped clean!
On its face are two slaveholders, and a man that said the following things:
"There must be the position of superior and inferior and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race"
and
"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races"
and
"Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites, they constitute a threat to the national life, family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed bastards may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man"
Once this offensive monument is gone you can still visit the Crazy Horse statue in the same general area that I am convinced will never be truly finished.
Yes let’s destroy them all historic statues and history we don’t agree with immediately; like radical Islam (Taliban and ISIS) did and does.
Or wait..so does Antifa and the radical left.
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TYLERTECHSAS
Yes and aborted babies are part of all lives.
And “Blue lives matter”.
Christ states very clearly that “All lives matter”.
Are you saying black lives matter?
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Guisslapp
Are you saying black lives matter?
Are you really that dense? “All lives” includes black lives.
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Bulldawg81
Are you really that dense? “All lives” includes black lives.
So you can’t just say black lives matter?