Ain't THAT the truth. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
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Ain't THAT the truth. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
We have some who blindly bitch no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
No it means you don't care, which does make a difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech52
No, it means you LIKE it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Better off for what?Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Because I can say that some of the changes were good. Having a specific blue and red to use (Except lady techsters) is a good thing. A standard State-T logo is also good. Some ideas have been awful, but other things have improved.
Which, just so we're clear, were joke responses to the claim that the logo should be more specific.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
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Originally Posted by Dawgonit
I can agree that having a set list of colors was okay. I’m talking about the name thing mostly. We don’t need anything else beside the state T and Louisiana Tech. I still have a ton of apparel that just has the state T on it and everyone always comments, “did you graduate from Louisiana Tech or just a fan?” No confusion.
JOakes on us...Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
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Originally Posted by HogDawg
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Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
HD: Without words... (HD says w/o words logos don't work)Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Blue Dawg: Let's add words...
HD: (sarcastic) Add words because others do it. (So now words on logos don't work)
Got it! :icon_roll:
I think Tech should play nlulm in football.
fwiw, the hat I wear up here in Arkansas has the LA ECH on it and people routinely ask if I went to lsu. Some people are just dumb.
Have to ask... Where are you wearing the state-T logos when asked if you are an alum or fan?Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
If you're talking about a 50-100 mile radius of Ruston, of course people will know the logo. A lot of people in the Dallas area don't know what the state-T represents. Many assume it's another LSU logo. Admittedly, I can NOT figure out how they make the connection other than they see the state; therefore, it must be LSU. I can honestly say if we were in a P5 conference or men's basketball was consistently in the Sweet-16 round of March Madness the state-T would be just fine because of all the visibility it would have in the sports media. Someone posted earlier that we are trying to grow enrollment. That requires drawing in students from outside a 100-mile radius of Ruston. If the LA T ECH helps kids associate the university with the little sports media coverage we get then that is what's needed.
I saw a lady in the grocery store the other day with UMHB on her shirt and cap. In the parking lot I saw a car a big UMHB sticker on the rear window. I have no idea what the heck that refers to. Haven't taken - and will not take - the time to google it. Only reason it stood out is because someone reacted to my Frisco Bowl shirt by saying they had a neice attending ULM. So I saw the U and M and thought of NLULM.
I live in Houston and I have gotten many comments on just the State T. Several years ago a couple of guys asked what was Louisiana Tech's mascot although there was a small one on the back of my cap. But they did recognize the plaint State T logo. More recently an older hispanic man recognized the State T logo. I was pleased since he was a rodeo cowboy of the old school and in the Texas Cowboy Hall of Fame. He has grand daughters at Nebraska and I believe Okla State.
People in San Antonio definitely know that the state T IS TECH. Most comments are that they want to pattern their sports after TECH's success. Some just come right out and say that Dixon was a beast!
Almost everywhere I go actually. Disney World, Gulf Shores, Nashville, Utah, Colorado, and Hawaii to name a few. I don’t know if some of the people lived close to Ruston and were traveling like me.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg1984
UMHB is University of Mary-Hardin Baylor. South Texas. My aunt and uncle are both professors there.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg1984
Well, that beats University of Mane-Harbor Bay.
No, I have no idea whether there is such an animal. If so, their mascot is probably Larry Lobster.;)
People can know what the logo is outside of the immediate area. They can be on vacation or have moved from the area, or just br a big college sports person. But just because one or two do, doesnt mean everyone does. When someone recognizes it, that would not be someone who the logo with the name is making it easier for. Its better for people who are seeing it for the first time.
I've NEVER had anyone confuse our logo with LSU's logo in all of my years - and I wear TECH garb just about everywhere and I try to buy just the State and Block T gear whenever I can...
Now confusing the geography and thinking we are close to New Orleans and have alligators everywhere is a different matter altogether
Agreed. I knew you were joking. As was I. We're good. Only one other didn't keep up. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
Just tell them "yes", that you went to LSU when the school colors were red white & blue. :icon_razz:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
Its an interesting case study in academia...the ivory towers barely know what campus they're currently on.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
The baseball fans here, though. They recognize the hat.
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Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
My wife and I just returned from a church group tour of Israel where I had a guy run up to me in Jerusalem pointed to my hat and said "go dogs". Never saw him before but he seemed to be with another group and was wearing a Tech polo (don't remember which logo).
Probably Milobump -Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg68
He was in Israel last week sporting his Tech gear
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2709...0,075,f.u1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by OLDBLUE
Just tell them you haven't got time to talk because your pirogue is double parked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Just saw Kix at the beginning of a NASCAR race with a Tech shirt. Wonder if anyone knows what school it is.
Probably a lot of people thought it was amazing for a country singer to go to school in Los AngelesQuote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Nothing screams Los Angeles like the shape of Louisiana.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixonfor6
FWIW, the dislike of that particular "dumbing down" logo has never been as much about the Ell Aye thing as the unnecessary usage of the "LA ECH" with an otherwise perfect logo.
thank you for that !Quote:
Originally Posted by pawdawg
I don't see how LA beside the state of Louisiana is confusing ....even to stupid people!!!!!! Thank God that Louisiana has NOTHING to do with the crazy state of California!
I don't think "confusion" is the issue. And I agree Louisiana has nothing to do with California, nor "Los Angles." Thus, why add LA to the logo?Quote:
Originally Posted by 70TECHGRAD
What's wrong with the following?
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.R...=7&o=5&pid=1.7
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?q=Auburn...ate&t=1&mw=247
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.G...=7&o=5&pid=1.7
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.a...=7&o=5&pid=1.7
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.z...=7&o=5&pid=1.7
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.K...=7&o=5&pid=1.7
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.k...=7&o=5&pid=1.7
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.P...=7&o=5&pid=1.7
I think I see a white T! Man, that’s a thing of beauty.
Many of those schools do have alternate logos, logos with words.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLDBLUE
TECH 52 "Many of those schools do have alternate logos, logos with words. "
If I may- those are not "LOGOS." :D Those are Insignias. Point is, Stay with the best, most attractive alternatives for I.D. purposes. Right?
We got El A Tech'd by our own bowling coach on our baseball broadcast today.
Heard that. LATech.com and we actually encourage the ElAyeTech pronunciation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
If people need to know how to spell out L A, why don't we spell out TECH as well?
Just curious. How would you have described the website address "LATech.com"??Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Spell it all out like other web sites...
L A T E C H.com
Didn't know we had more competition for L_ TECH :
Lawrence Tech selects StatBroadcast as its live stats provider in 2017-18 :D
No response from PD. That's what I thought. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
My response was in your post. I edited rather than quote it. If they insist on spelling out the L A, they should spell out all of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
L A T E C H
I suppose everybody knows how to spell teck, but La can be confused for Lah. We don't need to encourage the h being inserted right?
The branding our brilliant AD at the time chose was LaTech - pronounced "LahTeck". Just say that...lahtech.com.
We DID NOT brand ElAyeTech.com
So, if you were describing "LATech.com" to a radio audience, wouldn't you pronounce it "El Aye Tech.com"???Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
No, I'd say lahtech.com which is the way it is pronounced. Not ElAyetech.com.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Whatever...
Our own people don't know how to market the Dooley pronunciation. They've been screwing it up from the beginning. More and more ignorant people continue to say ElAye Tech.
Overheard an "El A Tech" at the Rafters' game yesterday and heard "El A Tech" on local radio today.
El A Tech is a real thing, y'all. #WeAreElATech #EmbraceTheSuck
HD, the bowling coach actually said to search for "El A Tech bowling" on YouTube because he live streams our matches on there. There's no such thing as LATech.com, but that's beside the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
The point is Tech wants people to say "Lah" Tech while styling our name LA Tech and LATech, which of course is resulting in more and more people pronouncing it "El A" Tech just how it looks instead of "Lah" Tech. Tech does not want it pronounced "El A" Tech; yet Tech isn't doing anything to try to fix this problem they created.
The lack of a unified branding vision is one of the most frustrating things about Tech. It might seem irrelevant to some of you, but as long as we continue to do this, we are obviously still acting in a "small school" mentality. No better than the NWSt, UL-Ms of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
FIFY. :icon_razz:Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
It's a good thing the MOB is a mere shadow of its former self....else they'd be all over this.
Worrying about how people pronounce our abbreviated name shows we are obviously still acting in a "small school" mentality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
You are describing what Dooley did.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
That claim can't be further from the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
The bigger the business, the more they focus on their brand.
Feel free to point out the big schools that worry over how they are abbreviated or pronounced.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
...because they put in the work to ensure that these things wouldn't happen?Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
The more times we get El lay teched or lah teched means the more times we are being mentioned. Everyone know who El lay or lah tech is. I will repeat. I prefer Louise z ana Tech over Loos z ana Tech so I really have no preference for either El lay or lah. Maybe we should do a poll on that.
Wasn't there a lawsuit between Southern Cal and South Carolina over "USC?"Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
I don't remember that but I know the east coast team has dibs on both SC and USCQuote:
Originally Posted by inudesu
.....yeah, they claimed it kinda like UL-Laughyette claimed "Louisiana".Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Didn't Georgia send us a cease and desist letter over our usage of Dawgs?Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
Maybe most of them don't make stupid branding mistakes, or they fix them when they do?Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
Have you ever said Cal Berkeley to someone who went to school there? Yikes! It's either Cal or UC Berkeley. Never Cal Berkeley.
Then there's the fight over the real Carolina.
Ever said Central Florida? If you have, I bet it was the last. It's UCF and only UCF.
Why does nobody ever say Louisiana State for LSU? Because they've successfully branded themselves.
I could go on and on. Every university, business, etc. works on crafting their brand. I challenge anyone to find a single "big school" who doesn't have a branding guide.
Not at all like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
SC, being one of the original 13, started what is Univ. of SCarolina in 1801 as "South Carolina College."Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
U of Southern Californial was founded in 1880.
The sticky part is SCS did not become USC until 1906.
That's where the name rights fight stands.
PS-An interesting sidenote of the SCalifornia name. From wiki:
a. ^ The alternate name "Southern Cal" frequently appears in sports-related news articles. USC discourages use of "Southern Cal" out of concern the name might suggest a foundational association to the University of California, Berkeley (commonly known as "Cal" in the athletics context), even though the two institutions have no affiliation other than their Pac-12 membership. For several years, USC's media guides contained the following request: "Note to the media: In editorial references to athletic teams of the University of Southern California, the following are preferred: USC, Southern California, So. California, Troy and Trojans for men's or women's teams, and Women of Troy for women's teams. PLEASE do not use Southern Cal (it's like calling San Francisco 'Frisco' or North Carolina 'North Car.'). The use of 'Southern Cal' on licensed apparel and merchandise is limited in scope and necessary to protect federal trademark rights."[195]
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...me-letter.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
It actually went the other way. But it was about one partiular logo style I believe. Still, it's an SEC team and an NCAA powerhouse in court over what seems a minor branding issue.
From S Carolina brand center http://www.sc.edu/about/offices_and_...tyle/index.php
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- Use University of South Carolina on the first reference. Thereafter, other terms such as South Carolina, Carolina, UofSC, USC and the university may be used to add variety. When targeting national or international audiences, use the term USC sparingly.
Actually, according to this article from from "L.A. Now" (or maybe it's really "Louisiana Now", ;)), the University of Southern California owns the rights to the "USC" trademark, and that decision has already been upheld in a federal U.S. Appeals court. In my opinion, that's exactly how it SHOULD be. Nobody ever heard South Carolina called "USC" until the last decade or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...me-letter.html
Only those who did not follow college football.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Son, I've forgotten more college football than you've ever watched. If you think South Carolina was widely known as "USC" back in the 60's, 70's, 80's & 90's, then you don't know anything about college football (which is no surprise, really.;) ) The push by the university to be called "USC" happened shortly after South Carolina joined the SEC back in 1991, and --as multiple courts have now ruled-- is as clear infringement on the University of Southern California's logo and trademark(s).Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
They both have a trademark to USC. South Carolina first use of USC in commerce was 1910 (according to link). Southern California has the stylized trademark.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/jumpto...01:157umg.2.64
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/jumpto...01:157umg.2.69
http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/jumpto...01:157umg.2.88
They both have a trademark to USC. South Carolina first use of USC in commerce was 1890 (according to link). Southern California used it in 1910.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
bad links see below
All 3 of your links above show "the University of Southern California NON-PROFIT CORPORATION CALIFORNIA University Park, ADM 352 Los Angeles CALIFORNIA 900895013" as the legal registrant.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
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Originally Posted by inudesu
Well that is a different issue. If someone starts calling themselves Louisiana Tech University I think we should probably have that discussion. If someone is using our boot and T I think we should step in and protect that. Maybe even if someone starts calling themselves LATech or LahTech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
I've heard Cal Berkley a lot. Matter of fact that's usually how i refer to them. I've never heard it corrected but I don't find myself in California very often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
I've also said Central Florida plenty of times and never been corrected either. I doubt the national champs are that concerned with it.
I also hear people say Louisiana State and I've said it myself. Again never heard a peep about it and I went to LSU and have worked with tons of LSU grads.
Having a branding guide is not what I am talking about. Every school big and small should have a branding guide. Having a preferred name is fine. The reaction when someone deviates from that branding guide or preferred name is what I am referring to. That is where the small schools and big schools differ. In that regard we are small time just like ULL.
http://wearelatech.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
https://twitter.com/WeAreLATech
https://www.patreon.com/wearelatech
So we should have a brand guide but not follow it?
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Originally Posted by Dawg06
Not sure what your point is. I would pursue them to change their name if we have a solid position to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
on Edit: I would say that even goes against what you guys are arguing for.
If you guys really want to be lah Tech then we would have no standing to protest someone (like this) calling themselves L A Tech.
Probably because there are several overlapping problems:Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
1. We chose poorly on how we chose to refresh our brand. Wussed out on Dawgs, "fixed" a perfect logo.
2. Due to these choices, we didn't think through how the brand would be interpreted. That's why people now say Ell Aye.
3. We don't enforce any of the above.
Some of ya'll are just silly about this stuff.
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Originally Posted by HogDawg
They're delicious! and no longer around as a food truck, but they do have a really good brick and mortar Pops Po-Boys...Quote:
Originally Posted by bleudog
http://static1.squarespace.com/stati.../?format=1500w
Should we sue them, or will they sue us?
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bj70Y7nnOxu/?r=mg1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgA0bTiW4AEq5t7.jpg:large
This probably deserves its own post, because it's interesting in its own right.
Our S&C guy got it right. Can’t be that hard.
Lexie Lybrand @mytractorslexie tweet
I told a girl that I go to "LA Tech" & she responded "Ohh, big-time girl going off to Cali!"
I just laughed and nodded
An LSU student is doing a poll to settle this.
https://twitter.com/EmiliaDuncan22/s...98410020958209
meals @EmiliaDuncan22 tweet
How do you say LA tech? Trying to prove a point
- Laaaa
- Or L.A.
Right now El A Tech is leading Lah Tech, 65%-35%...
The problems will get worse while Tommy fiddles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
It is now down to 55% to 45%.
In the meantime is it Southern Alabama or South Alabama?
Louisiana, UL, ULL or Southwestern Louisiana at Lafayette?
I am glad I graduated from Tech! Everyone knows our name. Calling us El A Tech indicates a poorly educated person. IMHO
Calling us El A Tech does not indicate a poorly educated person. El A Tech is the direct result of Tech’s idiotic branding of LA Tech and LATech. El A Tech is essentially what Tech is asking people to say by styling it like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog Tom
It all comes down to how people pronounce the abbreviation.
Does anyone remember the headline for the USA Today Sports Section when the Techsters won in 88?
La La La La La La Tech!
Prescious chickens coming home to roost.
Actually it was not his lame LahTech insistence. It has been our PR and Marketing people who refused to use all caps (LATECH) or LaTech. Instead they have INSISTED on using LATech in almost everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
Nah, the LAH chicken came before this rotten egg (chronologically AND causally). Crappy marketing begets crappy marketing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
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Originally Posted by HogDawg
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Thanks. Lah was embraced "because that's what everybody calls us anyway." Now that everybody calls us El Ay Tech, people are up in arms.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Guys, that's what everybody calls us anyway...just embrace it.
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Tom(aye)to, Tom(ah)to. We all know what it is.
Well, there ya go......someone has made some sense!!! Just like...are they dogs or dawgs!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech52
We have a new beat writer for the LA Times! Give him a follow.
Sam Dean @SamAugustDean 1d1 day ago
Very excited to announce that it's my first day as the new LA Tech reporter @latimes
So glad to get a big time reporter! Wow! Our administration is tireless in their pursuit of excellence for Tech sports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06