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Originally Posted by glm47
Just like the black USAFA Cadet planting racist memos and letters around campus and then yelling racism this year.
The Clintons and the left always plan and plant lying crap like this for their own CYA purpose. And the FBI and CIA (even Russian's) methods used are similar (i.e..disinformation).
But we shall see as either way or side of this is sick!
Yes, maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Vs. other Presidents while in public or social media....maybe. But in private, I doubt it. Vs. other democrat politicians, of course not as that is just stupid. Dems do it constantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
- Sen. Kennedy: Trump used 'hot rhetoric,' but so did Hillary Clinton, others on left
- Says 'all sides responsible' for political climate.
Hum..dressed in all black sounds familiar (Antifa).Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
DRAMATIC VIDEO: Police release footage of shootout at Trump golf club
Prosecutors released video of the man accused of exchanging gunfire with police at the Trump National Doral Golf Club in May.
The footage, which was released by the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office on Wednesday, appeared to show the suspect, Jonathan Oddi, 42, who was dressed in all black, walking into the lobby with a gun as employees scatter. The gunman is then seen unfurling a large American flag over the counter of the golf resort’s lobby. The gunman is also seen shooting at the ceiling.
Later in the video, the suspect raises his arms as cop car lights are seen outside the glass doors. The man ducks behind the lobby counter before grabbing a gun and shooting. He then flees the area and runs to a different room. An officer is seen chasing him on foot. The Miami Herald reported Oddi was shot in the leg before he was arrested.
Miami-Dade Police said Oddi was “yelling and spewing some information about President Trump” at the time of the incident.
Ok, low level former members of Congress are not the “leaders” I am talking about. I am talking about people that are elevated in their party that people listen to. Big difference between the type of leadership that you would expect from POTUS versus someone that was a nobody in the House of Representatives. We can find thousands of quotes from both sides on these low level people. I agree they shouldn’t talk like that either, but it just doesn’t have the same effect as when a sitting president talks like that - especially when they do it constantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
The reference to civility by Hillary was not a reference to violence at all - the examples she gave were hardball political tactics (e.g., using political process to your advantage like with nominations and such similar to what Mitch Mcconnell has been doing). In my opinion are bad political strategy anyway.
The Kaine comment was obviously not a reference to actual violence for all the reasons already stated.
:icon_roll: This all the Dems can concentrate on and their only political talking points. They still have zero message.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2...unds&auto=webp
Exactly, they have zero constructive platform to run on. Hey Mr. Constituent, elect me. “I’m not going to do anything to make your life better, but I’ll try to make life miserable for Trump and republicans.” That’s all they have.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Well, I am not a Dem so don’t bother looking to me for their talking points. I am just calling it as I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
I had a feeling you would go with "well their not the president". Funny enough I can't find a quote of any kind from the current democrat president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I also like how any example brought up on the left is "well they aren't important" or that's not exactly what they said and at the same time the only actual example of Trump encouraging violence is against a protester who had to be removed from a rally where he said "I'd like to punch that guy". I guess I need to know what the standard is for "violent rhetoric" because the goalposts seem to move around.
What about the previous Democrat presidents?Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
“Punch” is violent. Use of the political process to obstruct or marching on the street is not. One involves trying to physically injure someone you disagree with. Does that distinction make sense?
So is it only the one time with Trump? I don't follow everything he says, but that's the only time I'm aware of that he said something about punching someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
How about Bill Clinton saying he wanted to punch a reporter in the nose if he wasn't president? Is that a two pointer because it's an attack on the press too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Edit: Maybe that was too long ago.
And “roughing up” and all the other comments from my post I bumped in this thread earlier today. The context of those statements all dealt with doing physical harm to someone he disagree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
I suppose something like that would count.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
Here you go if you are interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
This is from the New York Times way back in 1996:
The chief White House spokesman told reporters today that President Clinton would like to punch the New York Times columnist William Safire in the nose because of a column on Monday in which Mr. Safire wrote that the President's wife, Hillary, had shown herself to be "a congenital liar."
Michael D. McCurry, the spokesman, called the column "an outrageous personal attack that has no basis in fact."
The President, if he were not the President, would have delivered a more forceful response to that on the bridge of Mr. Safire's nose," Mr. McCurry said, adding that inasmuch as Mr. Clinton is in fact President, he "knows he can't possibly do such a thing."
Meeting with reporters later in the day about the Federal budget negotiations, Mr. Clinton himself was asked about Mr. McCurry's account of a desire to slug Mr. Safire. The President replied with a smile, "If I were an ordinary citizen, I might give that article the response that it deserves."
Mr. Clinton said he kept on his wall a copy of a letter, now half a century old, in which President Harry S. Truman threatened to assault a music critic who had written a scathing review of the singing skills of Mr. Truman's daughter, Margaret. "Presidents have feelings too," Mr. Clinton said.
In his column on Monday, Mr. Safire wrote that many Americans were coming to the "sad realization that our First Lady -- a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation -- is a congenital liar."
Mr. Clinton's response to the column, as conveyed by Mr. McCurry, is reminiscent of his reaction when, at a debate among Democratic Presidential candidates in March 1992, former Gov. Edmund G. Brown Jr. of California declared that Mr. Clinton, as Governor of Arkansas, had been "funneling money" to Mrs. Clinton's law firm. "It's not only corruption," Mr. Brown said, but incompatible with the standards required of a President.
Yeah, I am not sure if that one counts. It is certainly a world apart from the style and context at which Trump routinely makes such suggestions at his rallies.
Anyone care to guess why the bomber is most likely an avid Hannity viewer?
Just so we can establish a baseline.....
Did it count when a left wing nut shot Steve Scalise and they protection detail? Not threatened, not, “mommy they hurt my feeings when they said that.”, not, “man I’d love to punch this guy who keeps getting on my nerves.” Actually shot people.
Well good news at least that most of the bombs that have been analyzed were incapable of blowing up. Either very inept or it was a scare tactic rather than an actual attempt. Hopefully they catch the nut job quickly.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Clearly not. He wasn't the president and it wasn't at a rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
But tell me what political leader has used hot rhetoric about Scalise?
I am not trying to diminish the responsibility of any nut job that commits an act of violence, politically motivated or not. But the type of rhetoric that Trump uses does have a powerful effect on the basal ganglia of many in Trump’s irreducible base.
There is still mixed reporting on that point. An expert here and an expert there. The FBI hasn’t said.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
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Originally Posted by detltu
So Guisslapp would rather there still be a chance they could have blown up killing people? Or maybe hoping they will in the future? :icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
NYPD Commissioner said that the bombs were not wired so they could detonate. Also if they were truly bombs.. why did CNN and other news outlets get to take pictures of the bombs? That is definitely not SOP for police departments and bomb squads. They do not allow pictures of bombs for fear that cameras, phones, and other devices could set it off. They didn't allow pictures of the boston bomber, CNN and others just showed pictures of a pressure cooker, not pictures of the bombs themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Or hoping that people remain careful? They think there could still be packages out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Did CNN open the package? If so maybe they took the picture then.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Thank you.
New packages addressed to Booker and Clapper. Talk about full-blown TDS!
We have seen all this before. Historical authoritarian regimes or rulers have cemented their power by pointing to non-existing violence from their opponents.
http://www.rochester.edu/newscenter/...gerous-339782/
Once again, BLUE lives matter. Sounds like they got someone.
Yes, BLUE of all races, religions, and political viewpoints. They are the line between us and chaos.
In the meantime, Guiss will continue to post stupid tribal stuff, too clueless to even realize he is a lemming and part of the problem.
Thanks for the update. I am sure it was done with the assistance of our Trump-maligned intel agencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Glad to see they busted his ass. Doesn't look like a very well adjusted individual based on the images of his van. I guess that's not really a shocker if he was willing to send home made bombs to people.
Man, it looks like this guy hired Tylertechsas and brtransplant to decorate his van.
Yeah, if I ever drive a vehicle that looks like that, yall need to go ahead and turn me in. Matter of fact, if I buy a van go ahead and start worrying about me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I have seen too many people become mentally transformed spending too much time reading right wing propaganda. If you stay off that part of the web and keep from watching too much Hannity, you will probably be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
Good thing we didn’t make that bet. Might want to lay off the conspiracy theories for awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/cesar-sayoc/
And once again you show you are incapable of depth of thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Perhaps they should be watching you as well. Such a simplistic view of stuff....you and the van owner are mental twins.
This guy is nothing but a well-paid fall guy to divert attention away from Soros et al.... The fool actually believed he wouldn't serve any real time, maybe none at all, and after a year+ of psychological monitoring, he'll be released with only a case worker watching him. That's what Soros promised. But, now that he's served his purpose...well, in fact, he's probably about to die from a weird accident or suicide. That's the Klintons' contribution to this operation.
Anyone with half a brain can see that this entire ruse was fabricated by the deep state leftists to try to stave off a midterm election disaster. Those bumper stickers plastered all over the guys van look like they've been there for about a week at the longest. This idiot was used and played like a fiddle by a desperate Democrat establishment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Another nothing burger from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Do you mean conspiracy theories like Obama being friends with Bill
Ayers and Rev. Wright?
If this dude is a plant, they have been playing the long game. He's a certified nut job from way back. He's also well established as a Trump fan. There are right wing nutjobs too. Unfortunately nobody has a monopoly on crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Simple thoughts are better than those that are hijacked by paranoia and conspiracy theories.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
Past several posts kind of prove this one. Thanks Dawg80 and brtransplant for not letting me down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Neither side has a monopoly on crazy but over the last 8+ years the right has had a near monopoly on political violence according to the stats.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
The narrative that the right has produced lately (and is exemplified by Ray starting this thread) is part of a pernicious double speak strategy that has been used by every authoritarian movement in history. This is just history repeating itself. Is society smart enough to learn from the past? We will see.
It's certainly possible. This could very well be a blind spot for me, but I don't see the "near monopoly" playing out day to day. I've seen stats, although some of them are made up of primarily incidents in foreign countries, but I can't help but question them. I don't think CNN and NBC are part of some kind of cover up of right wing violence. There seem to have been plenty of instances of left wing violence. Granted I have a bias, but it seems like just as much or more coming from the left. I don't want to play the "well if their not the president it doesn't count" game but I genuinely haven't seen the stats that back up the claim that the right has a near monopoly on violence in the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Looks like your instinct to blame CNN turned out wrong. The NYPD commissioner just announced that he media helped them get the word out to people that handle mail what the bombs looked like.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
ADL’s research has found that from 2007 to 2016, a range of domestic extremists of all kinds were responsible for the deaths of at least 372 people across the country. Seventy-four percent of these murders came at the hands of right-wing extremists such as white supremacists, sovereign citizens and militia adherents.Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
2017 wasn’t any better for the right wing:
https://www.adl.org/resources/report...states-in-2017
ere are some key statistics on white nationalism since last year's rally:
Since Charlottesville, the ADL has tracked 54 public events or demonstrations by white supremacists.
White supremacists propaganda is also on the rise. In 2018 so far, the ADL has recorded more than 900 white supremacist propaganda incidents, more than in all of 2017. This includes the distribution or posting of white supremacist fliers and literature.
White supremacists have increasingly targeted schools and college campuses with propaganda. These incidents rose by 77 percent during the 2017–18 academic year—that's 292 cases, compared to a previous 165, according to ADL data.
The ADL found anti-Semitic incidents increased nearly 60 percent in 2017, the largest single-year increase on record. Most of these incidents took place in schools and on college campuses.
In 2017 and 2018 combined, there have already been 3,000 extremist or anti-Semitic incidents, including physical assaults, bomb threats, and vandalism of Jewish institutions, ABC News reports based on recent ADL findings.
The alt-right has also changed tactics since the first rally in response to attacks on their preferred Web platforms. They've embraced podcasts as a way to reach more followers and increased efforts on college campuses, where they can spread propaganda anonymously.
I wasn't blaming CNN. I've had some formal training in this area, and 20 years ago taking pictures of any "suspected device" was not standard protocol. Things may have changed in the last 20 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Does ADL consider antifa a hate group? SPLC does not. Where are lists of left wing groups similar to antifa?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Luckily there were only 34 last year so I appreciate that they list each incident. Some nuggets:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Greeley, Colorado, August 16, 2017. Kelly Raisley, believed to be a member or associate of the 211 Crew white supremacist gang, was arrested on first-degree murder charges for the murder of his uncle, Randy Gene Baker. Baker’s wife and sister were similarly arrested. The motive was apparently personal.
Samish Island, Washington, July 14, 2017. An alt lite conspiracy theorist and vlogger, Lane Maurice Davis, allegedly murdered his father following an argument over Davis’s beliefs.
Putnam County Georgia, June 13, 2017. Ricky Dubose, a member of the Ghostface Gangsters white supremacist prison gang, and another inmate, Donnie Russell Rowe, reportedly killed two corrections officers while trying to escape from a prison bus. They were later recaptured.
Tampa, Florida, May 19, 2017. White supremacist Devon Arthurs allegedly shot to death two of his roommates for making fun of his recent conversion to Islam. All three, and a fourth roommate, were members of Atomwaffen, a neo-Nazi group. (Guessing they counted this a right wing even though the conversion to Islam might call that into question)
Dallas, Texas, May 1, 2017. Black nationalist Derick Lamont Brown killed his godfather, with whom he shared a house, and wounded a neighbor and a paramedic before killing himself after police arrived.
Fresno, California, April 18, 2017. Kori Ali Muhammad, a black nationalist, allegedly killed a motel security guard then, several days later, embarked upon a shooting spree that killed three more people before police were able to arrest him.
North Judson, Indiana, March 3, 2017. Aryan Circle member Edward Blackburn allegedly shot and killed another man who was reportedly dating his ex-girlfriend.
Leadwood, Missouri, February 9, 2017. Frank Ancona, head of the Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, was shot to death; his wife and fellow Klan member, Malissa Ancona, and her son have been charged for the murder.
Denver, Colorado, February 1, 2017. Joshua Andrew Cummings reportedly shot and killed a transit security guard in Denver. Cummings, a convert to Islam described by people who knew him as possibly becoming radicalized, claimed after his arrest that he had pledged his allegiance to ISIS after three days of fasting behind bars but that the murder was not done on behalf of ISIS.
San Antonio, Texas, January 29, 2017. Ashton Lucas Lomas was charged with capital murder after allegedly robbing and shooting to death Martin Gonzales over an alleged dispute Gonzales had with another person. Lomas and others charged in the case appear to be members or associates of the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas.
Lafayette, Indiana, January 16, 2017. Wesley Andrew Hampton, a self-declared white supremacist, and another defendant allegedly robbed and murdered a man in a home invasion.
First of all screw all those guys, but second half of this crap is domestic dispute stuff where the perp happened to be part of a hate group. There are a few that were completely within their own group and may have had little to do with their extreme beliefs. Not that it's ok, but it doesn't really reinforce the narrative of the right being more violent in general than the left. I suspect the hate groups of the right are much more well identified than the left. I did learn about a new right wing extremist group- Alt lite. Haven't heard of that one before. This also doesn't include acts of violence that were not fatal.
It is at least limited to the US though so I give you that one.
ADL isn't exactly an unbiased source, but kudos to them for including this disclaimer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The main limitation of cross-movement comparisons is that extremist connections to killings are easier to determine for some movements than for others. For example, white supremacists, who frequently sport many racist and white supremacist tattoos, or who may be documented as white supremacists by gang investigators or corrections officials, are often more easily identifiable. In contrast, it may be more difficult for police or media to identify, say, anti-government extremist associations that a suspect might have. This issue comes up most often with non-ideological killings rather than ideologically-motivated ones. It is fair to say that non-ideological murders committed by extremists other than white supremacists are probably underrepresented here.
There were 5 main groups identified in the study:Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
right wing:
White Supremacy
Anti-Government
Alt-lite
left wing:
Black Nationalism
Domestic Islamic Extremism
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
https://www.adl.org/resources/backgr...are-the-antifa
More of the same, this time the data comes from the Global Terrorism Database.
https://qz.com/1435885/data-shows-mo...us-extremists/
How many people have Antifa killed?
All the violent left wing rhetoric and threats have grown old with normal, everyday people and they'll only be pushed so far. The fake news media, in an attempt to regain even a hint of credibility, is doing its dead level best to create civil discord in this country. They keep stirring the pot and when it boils over, the blood will be on the biased, liberal, fake news media's hands.
The only violent rhetoric I see on this forum is from the right wingers.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
The liberal Bernie supporter shooter at the GOP baseball practice almost killed a bunch! The "bomber" didn't even hook the ignition/primer up. Maybe on purpose. It was the liberal political mob he sent dud bombs too that stirred up this nut job. Not Trump!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Was he part of Antifa?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
The guy in Vegas killed dozens and wounded hundreds.. I don't blame anyone in the Democratic leadership for this crazy nut job. Antifa has not killed anyone yet, but they have done hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage, and they have caused bodily harm to people and sent several to the hospital.
I agree but you know what? The DOJ hasn't released his motive yet. Not one word about his killing a bunch of Trump voting, CW listening "rednecks" from the DOJ as I believe they are afraid to release it their findings.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
They also haven't arrested in the Ricin attacks yet. That disappeared off the media radar.
Was it politically motivated?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Originally Posted by FriscoDog
I bet you dollars to donuts it was and the current worthless head of the DOJ and his assistant (you know who) and existing "deep state" that is left is keeping it silent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I have no idea.. There has been nothing definitive that has come from the investigation. I personally know the FBI agent who's team was in charge of the forensics at the scene. Nothing from Law enforcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Seems very unlikely that it was politically motivated. No real history of political activity, no political social media and no clear political enemy in the attack. To the extent you can figure out anything “political” that he cared about it was the 2nd amendment. Based on that, that would almost assuredly make him conservative if he even cared about political issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ler-gun-rights
Insane Muslim or a anti-semitic? Or an Agnostic with extreme bitterness? A liberal Dem. Louis Farrakhan supporter?
BLOODBATH DURING BRIS... DEVELOPING...
THREE OFFICERS WOUNDED...
SUSPECT ID'D...
'NAZI'...
IN CUSTODY...
NYPD DEPLOYS TO JEWISH HUBS...
LIVE...
AT LEAST 8 SHOT DEAD AT PITTSBURGH SYNAGOGUE
'ALL JEWS NEED TO DIE'
Another right wing white supremacists even if he didn’t vote for Trump.
Bowers wrote on a social media site, Gab, “HIAS likes to bring invaders in that kill our people. I can’t sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. Screw your optics. I’m going in.” HIAS is the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society that helps refugees.
Also one of those “anti-globalists”
In a post a few days before the shooting, Bowers wrote, “Trump is a globalist, not a nationalist. There is no #MAGA as long as there is a k*** infestation.
Nope he was a Trump hater just like the liberal Dems. He was probably a liberal anti-semitic Dem. Louis Farrakhan supporter as well. And he was also obviously a mentally ill anti-semitic terrorist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
He hated President Trump and believes Trump is controlled by the Jews".He also stated, “I did not vote for him.” adding, “nor have I owned, worn or even touched a mega hat.”
"The shooter who massacred eight people at a synagogue in Pittsburgh earlier today was an anti-Semite who expressed his disdain for Donald Trump, while also commenting, “I did not vote for him.” adding, “nor have I owned, worn or even touched a mega hat.”
link
'TRUMP HATER'...
'NAZI'...
Right wing anti-globalist white supremacist. Those are not leftists or liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Are you saying all right wingers support Trump?
Read my above again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Read my post again.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Well I got the anti-semitic and extreme bitter agnostic correct didn't I. Add to this a deep Trump hater that didn't know the difference between a Globalist and a Nationalist. Heck, Hitler was a true globalist like the liberal left supports. He sought world domination with one government, one currency, one leader and no true borders (all his). The true opposite of Trump and more in line with the liberal left socialist.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Agnostic? He cites bible verses in his social media. Also hates on Muslims and immigrants in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
He also reposted this: “First Trump came for the Charlottesville 4 but I kept supporting Trump because he is better than Hillary Clinton.
Then Trump came for the Rise Above Movement but I kept supporting Trump because he is better than Hillary Clinton.
Then Trump came for the Proud Boys but I kept supporting Trump because he is better than Hillary Clinton.
Then Trump came for me and the was no one left to suppor...”
Again, he doesn’t seem sympathetic to the left at all. And if you think a white supremacist would support Farrakhan, you are crazier than I thought.
I agree he is not a fan of Trump, but it is only because Trump is not racist and anti-globalist enough for him. That doesn’t put him on the left, but further right than Trump.
He is an extremist from your side of the aisle. We will see how the ADL classifies this one, but I think we know.
Totall BS. BTW, agnostics and atheist quote scripture at times to discredit the Bible in the own mind. But I've not seen this anywhere and his social media has been deleted. So are you reading some BS blog?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Heavy.com has a link to archives of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
We may or may not learn what set this white supremacist off, but looking at his social media he was pretty keyed up about the coming caravan from Honduras and he believed the Jews were helping them.
The shooter is a raving lunatic. Trying to attach blame for the actions of a madman to Trump or his supporters is beneath you. Or at least it should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I reject your notion that the conservative side of the isle (including Republicans) is anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant or anti-Jewish in any way. It's total BS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
This is just more identity politics that is practiced by some that is intended to tear the country apart. It is an attempt to categorize people in a way to make them appear evil, much like the general racial and religious stereotypes that you appear to follow.
My side of the aisle does not condone these things. President Trump has not condoned these things. You need to get a life outside of hating.
This guy has just as much to do with Republicans as Antifa does do Democrats. We are talking about extremists from the right and left that are rejected by the mainstream.Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgyNWindow
I'm not clicking on whatever made-up link that is for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Presidents are responsible for using responsibile rhetoric. Period. Feeding nutjobs’ paranoia has consequences.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
This guy has zero to do with the GOP. However, your fav. Anita has had plenty of support from the socialist Dems and practically no condemnation from the left at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
In the meantime.
Republican congressional candidate receives letter threatening his 7 kids
The CNN anchors and reporters are getting lots of threats too. They say it hasn’t been anything like this until Trump started directing his hostility their direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Of course not. The CNN anchors are now declaring their commitment to socialism. What did you expect might happen to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
More stats and graphs showing relative acts of violence in the US relating to ideology. Only current through 2016.
https://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START...US_Nov2017.pdf
What about Democrats rhetoric. You never condemn them for the crap they're constantly spewing, but you condemn President Trump DAILY. I'll say it again, you're the biggest hypocrite that posts on this board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Disagree. He's not a hypocrite. He's a dyed-in-the-wool Dem lib who thinks he'll garner more credibility by pretending to be neutral, independent, and he's just offering non-bias opinions based on observation. BS!Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
If he were truly what he claims to be...independent...then yes, he'd be a hypocrite because he does apply a different standard to Dems and Repubs. But, he's no more independent, non-bias, then rest of us. At least most of us are man enough to stand up and be counted for what we believe in. I am not too keen on the GOP....although I have seen SOME improvement recently...I am conservative. No, I am AMERICAN!
Goosey is a slimy piece of filth. Sorry, goosey, but it's true. I will have a little more respect for you if you would man-up and just tell the truth. We've had libtard (there's that term again, sorry) posters before like Aubrey, Saltydawg, and others, and no one on this forum killed them, did them harm in any way. I even met Aubrey on numerous occasions at Tech games. We chatted, shook hands, and parted as fellow Tech fans, and political opponents.
Anyway, try it goosey. Just admit the truth, and we'll continue to harbor differing political viewpoints, but at least we'll have more respect for you. Stop pretending.
Now, all that said, as I mentioned before, I am not as "conservative" in my personal views as you might think. I do think abortion is wrong, because I believe the fetus is a human being and has a right to live. I also think "guvmint" should be as small as possible, but there is a role for guvmint in many aspects of our lives. The extent of that involvement differs from most true libs....socialists....but we need some "authority" in most of the organizations, processes, we engage in. I won't go further into detail here...can save that for a separate thread. Yeah! a thread devoted to the role of guvmint.
Back to the point. Just admit it goosey, you are a flaming lib, a Dem. Getting the veil of deceit off of you will make you feel better.
Everyone needs to tone down their hateful rhetoric but to pretend that the democratic rhetoric is remotely as bad as the Trump’s or has has remotely the same impact is disingenuous. The President has the largest megaphone and is using it to promote fear and hate of certain groups on a daily basis. Unacceptable.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
Another white supremacist killing this week. This time white guy kills 2 black customers in a grocery store in Kentucky after failing to break into black church. Says whites don’t kill whites when getting arrested.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...025-story.html
On Facebook, Bush followed several prominent conservative media members and politicians, and talked about right wing political issues. In August 2017, he posted about signing a petition asking Kentucky Governor Matt Bevin to declare no historic monuments, especially those pertaining to the Civil War, be removed, relocated or destroyed. In November 2017, he shared a petition he signed asking for officials to reinstate a Kentucky deputy who resigned after posting a photo to social media giving the thumbs up next to an unconscious woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
In 2015, Bush shared a meme created by a group called “Stand Strong Against Hate” for “Heterosexual Awareness Month,” that argues the gay pride flag is really a “gay power” flag and should be considered a hate symbol.
Was this guy one of the “very fine people” that Trump was referring to on the side of the Unite the Right?
He walked up from behind and executed the black man that was shopping for poster board with his grandson. The black woman was shot in the parking lot.
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At this point I will support whichever candidate is willing to check Trump, Republican or Democrat. Unfortunately the Republican Party has become the party of Trump over the past couple of years and it is hard to find any Republicans that will stand up to him. This puts me on the side of Democrats today. If the Republican Party continues to drift towards social conservative extremism, I might be a Democrat voter for the foreseeable future, regardless of whether I like their policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Hum... it comes from umd.edu...and it's 1 year old...No Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
You are one already. Probably from the rebellion of your youth. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp