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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
CARTEK
So, Goosey is saying this video is staged and not real. Riiiiiiiiight….
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
So, Goosey is saying this video is staged and not real. Riiiiiiiiight….
I am saying Ezike very poorly described how Illinois is counting COVID deaths, it was captured on video, and people are circulating the video without mentioning the fact that Ezike later issued a clarification. So did Illinois Department of Public Health.
But instead of posting the corrected information, the video clip fits the narrative that the pandemic is being overblown, so they pass it to others, and those who it confirms their bias don’t bother to look up whether that is actually how Cook County or Illinois is counting COVID deaths.
Cartek even did that despite the fact that I had already posted Ezike’s clarification earlier in the thread.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
I am saying Ezike very poorly described how Illinois is counting COVID deaths, it was captured on video, and people are circulating the video without mentioning the fact that Ezike later issued a clarification. So did Illinois Department of Public Health.
But instead of posting the corrected information, the video clip fits the narrative that the pandemic is being overblown, so they pass it to others, and those who it confirms their bias don’t bother to look up whether that is actually how Cook County or Illinois is counting COVID deaths.
Cartek even did that despite the fact that I had already posted Ezike’s clarification earlier in the thread.
More likely the video is legit and since then this Ezike person has been threatened, warned to change the story or suffer the dire consequences.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
More likely the video is legit and since then this Ezike person has been threatened, warned to change the story or suffer the dire consequences.
How many people do you think that die of gunshot wounds or auto accidents also have COVID 19?
It could be no more than a rounding error if they were doing this wrong in the base case. That would not inflate the numbers.
I am not questioning that the video is legit. I am telling you that Illinois has already addressed the misinformation the video contains. People that circulate the video on social media are not telling you about the correction because it doesn’t support the narrative they are pedaling.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
How many people do you think that die of gunshot wounds or auto accidents also have COVID 19?
It could be no more than a rounding error if they were doing this wrong in the base case. That would not inflate the numbers.
I am not questioning that the video is legit. I am telling you that Illinois has already addressed the misinformation the video contains. People that circulate the video on social media are not telling you about the correction because it doesn’t support the narrative they are pedaling.
You just repeated the same argument without addressing the flip side. The flip side is that the video is the real truth, and reveals that the # of deaths blamed on C-19 has been greatly exaggerated for purposeful misinformation...for political purposes. The subsequent "correction" is part of the cover-up, damage control so as to continue the false narrative.
Sorry, but this woman doesn't come across as a Biden-type who simply doesn't know what's going on. She spoke the real truth, answering honestly in an open press conference. Shortly after that, she was called on the carpet for spilling the beans and the spin masters went to work.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
You just repeated the same argument without addressing the flip side. The flip side is that the video is the real truth, and reveals that the # of deaths blamed on C-19 has been greatly exaggerated for purposeful misinformation...for political purposes. The subsequent "correction" is part of the cover-up, damage control so as to continue the false narrative.
Sorry, but this woman doesn't come across as a Biden-type who simply doesn't know what's going on. She spoke the real truth, answering honestly in an open press conference. Shortly after that, she was called on the carpet for spilling the beans and the spin masters went to work.
Greatly exaggerated? How many extra people would we be talking about that were Covid positive and died from gunshot or car crash? That has to be a minuscule number even if they were counting it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...2270810/%3famp
There is no other side but a fake conspiracy theory.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Sorry...I too often forget who I am communicating with...Goosey the slow-witted. I was referring to the overall misinformation scheme...nation wide. Not just this woman and not just Illinois. She is just a small part in the bigger scam machine.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Sorry...I too often forget who I am communicating with...Goosey the slow-witted. I was referring to the overall misinformation scheme...nation wide. Not just this woman and not just Illinois. She is just a small part in the bigger scam machine.
Evidenced by what?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 17
34,432 cases 2,425 deaths testing rate at 13.0%
1,019 in hosp 111 on vents
May 18
34,709 cases 2,440 deaths testing rate at 12.9%
1,031 in hosp 118 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
People that circulate the video on social media are not telling you about the correction because it doesn’t support the narrative they are pedaling.
Sounds like someone is pulling a Schiff.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
CARTEK
:laugh::laugh: Okay, Okay.....I admit it. This stuff is actually FUN to watch.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
So, Goosey is saying this video is staged and not real. Riiiiiiiiight….
Have you ever noticed that Guissy's got an answer for literally EVERYTHING, and he is almost wrong every single time. No exaggeration. If you told him the sky was blue, he would lie his ass off and tell you it's not. That dude is an unemployed psycho. :laugh:
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
How many people do you think that die of gunshot wounds or auto accidents also have COVID 19?
It could be no more than a rounding error if they were doing this wrong in the base case. That would not inflate the numbers.
I am not questioning that the video is legit. I am telling you that Illinois has already addressed the misinformation the video contains. People that circulate the video on social media are not telling you about the correction because it doesn’t support the narrative they are pedaling.
He's got an answer for everything, folks. Evidence be dammed.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
They look like the best of the best to me! 😷
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Like other states, I'm sure, Louisiana is getting clobbered by reduced tax revenues. Sales tax collection is way down with the reduced retail and other direct sales' activity. As is hotel tax collection, and of course, so is income tax collection since so many people are not working. Other fees, like building permits and such are also down. In our case the state is also suffering $millions in loss revenue from reduced O&G activity.
The state has released statewide and parish by parish numbers. Natchitoches Parish is particularly hard hit, as we depend heavily on tourism, which has ground to a halt. Natchitoches has a HUGE hotel industry, something like 800+ hotel rooms which normally have an 80%+ occupancy rate. It also has a high hotel tax....
So, while libs celebrate the downfall of America's small businesses...in hopes of creating a new batch of guvmint-dependent folks who will vote for the Dems, yeah baby! And of course, libs rejoice in the struggling economy in hopes it will damage the Orange Man's reelection bid...well, in the meantime state and local governments are taking a pounding and services are being cut. The damage is real and the short-term outlook in particular is grim. It'll get worse before it gets better.
More reason many of us are watching this whole thing with an eye on the flip side of the lockdown. I have posted several times that if they are proven wrong...and by "they" I mean those directly responsible for this virus mess shutdown...Dr. Fauci et al and some of the governors who particularly over-reacted, and all those "researchers" who have poo-poohed every inexpensive and readily available remedy...should pay a huge price. All of their assets should be seized and placed into a pool to reimburse all the innocent Americans destroyed economically by this. Well, it would only be a token reimbursement given the amount of $damage, but it should happen and serve as a warning to those who would place themselves as the "all-knowing" guru and dictate national policy.
Let me hasten to add...IF they are proven wrong. To me that verdict is still out. But, it is looking more and more like a big over-reaction to a "virus hoax." We shall see...
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Libs were the ones trying to help the states out.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Forgot to mention the cured rate for the state...it's 26K+ which is 76%. That leaves about 8,000 active cases statewide.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Libs were the ones trying to help the states out.
LOL! you are so funny. Do you do Stand Up...you should try it. Comics have to be lib because their audiences are mostly libtards. Get up there and rip the bad Orange Man! Even if you're not funny the audience will roar its approval.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Like other states, I'm sure, Louisiana is getting clobbered by reduced tax revenues. Sales tax collection is way down with the reduced retail and other direct sales' activity. As is hotel tax collection, and of course, so is income tax collection since so many people are not working. Other fees, like building permits and such are also down. In our case the state is also suffering $millions in loss revenue from reduced O&G activity.
The state has released statewide and parish by parish numbers. Natchitoches Parish is particularly hard hit, as we depend heavily on tourism, which has ground to a halt. Natchitoches has a HUGE hotel industry, something like 800+ hotel rooms which normally have an 80%+ occupancy rate. It also has a high hotel tax....
So, while libs celebrate the downfall of America's small businesses...in hopes of creating a new batch of guvmint-dependent folks who will vote for the Dems, yeah baby! And of course, libs rejoice in the struggling economy in hopes it will damage the Orange Man's reelection bid...well, in the meantime state and local governments are taking a pounding and services are being cut. The damage is real and the short-term outlook in particular is grim. It'll get worse before it gets better.
More reason many of us are watching this whole thing with an eye on the flip side of the lockdown. I have posted several times that if they are proven wrong...and by "they" I mean those directly responsible for this virus mess shutdown...Dr. Fauci et al and some of the governors who particularly over-reacted, and all those "researchers" who have poo-poohed every inexpensive and readily available remedy...should pay a huge price. All of their assets should be seized and placed into a pool to reimburse all the innocent Americans destroyed economically by this. Well, it would only be a token reimbursement given the amount of $damage, but it should happen and serve as a warning to those who would place themselves as the "all-knowing" guru and dictate national policy.
Let me hasten to add...IF they are proven wrong. To me that verdict is still out. But, it is looking more and more like a big over-reaction to a "virus hoax." We shall see...
You are getting some fake news. The HCQ data does not show it is effective.
BTW, I told you on March 1 that Gilead and Moderna were the ones to watch. So far those are looking like good calls.
The damage to the economy was the result of poor leadership. We have sunk to second tier with Trump while we used to be a world leader in disease response. Azar and Redfield were disaster appointments - driven by Republican purity tests and loyalty rather than competence.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 18
34,709 cases 2,440 deaths testing rate at 12.9%
1,031 in hosp 118 on vents
May 19
35,038 cases 2,458 deaths testing rate at 12.6%
1,004 in hosp 112 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
You are getting some fake news. The HCQ data does not show it is effective.
BTW, I told you on March 1 that Gilead and Moderna were the ones to watch. So far those are looking like good calls.
The damage to the economy was the result of poor leadership. We have sunk to second tier with Trump while we used to be a world leader in disease response. Azar and Redfield were disaster appointments - driven by Republican purity tests and loyalty rather than competence.
Weak. You should hire writers otherwise your Stand Up Comic career is doomed before it starts.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
In response to a FOIA request, Louisiana released an updated list of nursing home cases.
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.town...3bf213.pdf.pdf
71% have a case.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Btw, we have the same problem here in Texas. But in true Texas fashion, we do things bigger.
Some of our nursing homes have over 100 cases.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cbsaust...covid-19-cases
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
In Natchitoches Parish half the total cases and more than half the deaths all come from the same nursing home...the one with the lawsuits filed against it. Statewide about 40% of the deaths come from nursing homes. This further illustrates the true nature of this whole virus "crisis." While it is tragic so many elderly folks in such facilities have been particularly vulnerable...and the reasons for that are obvious...it does shed the light of truth on this "horrible, runaway, out-of-control" virus.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
We are still very much in the early innings with this.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
We are still very much in the early innings with this.
It was obvious in March and is even more obvious now. The sick and elderly are at risk. The ridiculous early models were never about “science”. Focus on nursing home type facilities and if you are at risk stay home.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
It was obvious in March and is even more obvious now. The sick and elderly are at risk. The ridiculous early models were never about “science”. Focus on nursing home type facilities and if you are at risk stay home.
That didn’t work in Sweden.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
That didn’t work in Sweden.
Over half of the C-19 deaths in Sweden are elderly, nursing home patients. No different than the rest of the world.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
That didn’t work in Sweden.
Apparently Sweden called Governor Cuomo for advice.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 19
35,038 cases 2,458 deaths testing rate at 12.6%
1,004 in hosp 112 on vents
May 20
35,316 cases 2,485 deaths testing rate at 12.3%
931 in hosp 110 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 20
35,316 cases 2,485 deaths testing rate at 12.3%
931 in hosp 110 on vents
Who is going to stockpile all the extra vents? Will they work in the future during the next crisis?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
eagle2180
Who is going to stockpile all the extra vents? Will they work in the future during the next crisis?
Back in February or so there were 150 vents in a warehouse, in California, I think it was...none of them worked. Apparently they don't store very well.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Back in February or so there were 150 vents in a warehouse, in California, I think it was...none of them worked. Apparently they don't store very well.
So, it is a huge waist of resources, but government did something?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
I'll let dawg80 continue to provide his excellent summary. When seeing take into account the following:
Louisiana Department of Health Updates for 5/21/2020
May 21, 2020
The Louisiana Department of Health has updated its website to reflect the latest number of COVID-19 positives and will continue to update its website at noon each day.
Today, the Department reports 1,188 new cases. Of those, 682 (62%) are from 23 labs that are reporting cases electronically to LDH for the first time, with cases stretching as far back as March 25. These labs previously have not reported and are now reporting all their historical lab results electronically.
This means 506 of the 1,188 newly reported cases come from the rest of the regular reporting across the state.
While all 1,188 cases are added to LDH's dashboard today, historical cases are reallocated back to their respective dates and shared in the "date of onset of symptoms" visualization on the dashboard.
The percent positivity—the percentage of total tests that return positive—on all lab results was 6.1%.
“While this is the biggest single increase in cases we have seen since April 9, it is important to understand the context,” said Dr. Alex Billioux, the assistant secretary of the Office of Public Health. “Not only are there cases here dating back to late March, but we also have increased testing. That only 6.1% of all these test results are positive is a good sign. Our goal is to keep that number below 10%, the goal set by the federal government.”
“We believe we are beginning to see the impact of comprehensive testing across congregate settings and workplace outbreaks. This is what suppression of COVID-19 looks like—and it is critical to moving our state forward,” Dr. Billioux said.
The Department expects to see higher case counts in the coming days while ramping up testing in congregate settings.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 20
35,316 cases 2,485 deaths testing rate at 12.3%
931 in hosp 110 on vents
May 21
36,504 cases 2,506 deaths testing rate at 11.9%
884 in hosp 107 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
eagle2180
So, it is a huge waist of resources, but government did something?
Yes, stockpiling this equipment and PPE for extended periods is useless. Disposing of existing stock and completely restocking when these items expire (5-7 years or so) is not smart. Cost of care would skyrocket on any insurance plan, government or private, if we kept all these items up to date in preparation for an even that may never happen and you certainly can’t predict with absolute certainty with enough lead time to produce these supplies for when something is going to hit.
Also, did any of you see the masks that were sold in bulk with the warning:
Mask is not adequate to protect from airborne contaminants and is not intended to protect the wearer from disease or illness.
What the crap are we wearing them for then?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 21
36,504 cases 2,506 deaths testing rate at 11.9%
884 in hosp 107 on vents
May 22
36,925 cases 2,545 deaths testing rate at 11.8%
867 in hosp 104 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
techman05
Also, did any of you see the masks that were sold in bulk with the warning:
Mask is not adequate to protect from airborne contaminants and is not intended to protect the wearer from disease or illness.
What the crap are we wearing them for then?
Masks are designed to help keep someone who is infected from spreading the virus via fluids, like spit, sneezing (didn't want to say snot...), and drooling, like Goosey does when he tries to think. Just saw a report from the CDC confirming what many already thought, the virus cannot survive but milliseconds on solid surfaces. I have not seen any updates on the 90 seconds in the air estimate, which stems from over a month ago. But, it apparently does okay in droplets of water...so! an infected person might accidently spray spit, and that can travel...well, 6 feet! I guess. Sneezes can propel fluid 20 feet! Gross, I know, even without the threat of a virus.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
We are still very much in the early innings with this.
It's over. Except for New York, New Jersey & Michigan, because they are a bunch of dumbasses who have Democrats for leaders. Get used to it.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
It was obvious in March and is even more obvious now. The sick and elderly are at risk. The ridiculous early models were never about “science”. Focus on nursing home type facilities and if you are at risk stay home.
PUT THOSE GLOVES AWAY!
The CDC has changed their mind. AGAIN! Now --in a brand new report-- they say you can't really catch the virus from touching objects or surfaces. So, our "scientists" got it wrong again! :icon_roll:
These guys are about as reliable as as bunch of 6th graders. Just one more example of "scientists" being being over-rated. What a bunch of Bozo's.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/h...9-b89895482e87
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HD just put you mask on, be PC, and vote for Biden.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
HD just put you mask on, be PC, and vote for Biden.
LOL! You mean, the racist, child molester, "You ain't black", dementia plagued, "Gropey" Joe Biden, who's on the run from prosecution in the Ukraine? :laugh:
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
PUT THOSE GLOVES AWAY!
The CDC has changed their mind. AGAIN! Now --in a brand new report-- they say you can't really catch the virus from touching objects or surfaces. So, our "scientists" got it wrong again! :icon_roll:
These guys are about as reliable as as bunch of 6th graders. Just one more example of "scientists" being being over-rated. What a bunch of Bozo's.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/h...9-b89895482e87
I know you guys don’t read the articles. The CDC guidelines don’t match the headlines. Reread what they actually said:
"It may be possible that a person can get COVID-19 by touching a surface or object that has the virus on it and then touching their own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes. This is not thought to be the main way the virus spreads, but we are still learning more about this virus," the CDC wrote.
You will note that that is not remotely “you can't really catch the virus from touching objects or surfaces” as you characterized it. Reading. It is something we all learned in elementary school.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Another business "bites" it, thanks in part to the lockdown. The Natchitoches Alligator Park has announced they are closing permanently. Citing this pandemic shutdown as the final straw they will not reopen, after 23 years of succesful operation. It is true that two floods hit them hard, especially the one 2016 a "500-year flood" that inundated the park and kept it close from March thru September that year. Then another mini-flood hit them last year, they lost a month's revenue. Now, they haven't been able to open this season at all due to the virus mess.
This is just one more example, one more nail in the coffin, for those who are responsible for this economic collapse. The Chicoms bear the brunt of the blame and they should be severely punished, HAMMERED into submission with all-out economic "war" aimed at total implosion of their economy. Crush 'em! And crush WHO right along with them. Next, all those here, in this country who have either purposely or by foolish misguidance contributed to the economic calamity. Some, we know, the Dem guvnors, are following their marching orders designed to wreck the economy. They should face a fair trial then be summarily executed by firing squad. Others, like Dr. Fauci, are probably just stupid goofballs (although I think he has a financial rooting interest in this...) and simply are wrong in their assessment of the situation. There are others who MIGHT have had the best intentions...no, seriously...some have made honest mistakes in their analysis of the data. Others KNEW there was (is) two sides to the story but chose to error on the side of caution...and the economy be damned! These folks don't deserve to be shot, but they should pay via the siezure of all of their financial assets, right down to their kids' bikes, and that money used to make (token) restitution to all the truly innocent victims of this virus hoax.
And this folks....is why there is a 2nd Amendment. Read into that, what you will...
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
Another business "bites" it, thanks in part to the lockdown. The Natchitoches Alligator Park has announced they are closing permanently. Citing this pandemic shutdown as the final straw they will not reopen, after 23 years of succesful operation. It is true that two floods hit them hard, especially the one 2016 a "500-year flood" that inundated the park and kept it close from March thru September that year. Then another mini-flood hit them last year, they lost a month's revenue. Now, they haven't been able to open this season at all due to the virus mess.
This is just one more example, one more nail in the coffin, for those who are responsible for this economic collapse. The Chicoms bear the brunt of the blame and they should be severely punished, HAMMERED into submission with all-out economic "war" aimed at total implosion of their economy. Crush 'em! And crush WHO right along with them. Next, all those here, in this country who have either purposely or by foolish misguidance contributed to the economic calamity. Some, we know, the Dem guvnors, are following their marching orders designed to wreck the economy. They should face a fair trial then be summarily executed by firing squad. Others, like Dr. Fauci, are probably just stupid goofballs (although I think he has a financial rooting interest in this...) and simply are wrong in their assessment of the situation. There are others who MIGHT have had the best intentions...no, seriously...some have made honest mistakes in their analysis of the data. Others KNEW there was (is) two sides to the story but chose to error on the side of caution...and the economy be damned! These folks don't deserve to be shot, but they should pay via the siezure of all of their financial assets, right down to their kids' bikes, and that money used to make (token) restitution to all the truly innocent victims of this virus hoax.
And this folks....is why there is a 2nd Amendment. Read into that, what you will...
Elections have consequences. Competent leadership at the POTUS would have been helpful.
All of you Trump supporters share the blame.
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You mean the “leadership” who said the threat of infection was way overblown? Or the leadership that said Trump didn’t react quickly enough or adequately to stop the spread of a virus that they just claimed wasn’t serious? Or the leadership that has kept states closed or largely closed and has cost thousands upon thousands of jobs? No thanks.
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Originally Posted by
techman05
You mean the “leadership” who said the threat of infection was way overblown? Or the leadership that said Trump didn’t react quickly enough or adequately to stop the spread of a virus that they just claimed wasn’t serious? Or the leadership that has kept states closed or largely closed and has cost thousands upon thousands of jobs? No thanks.
All of that happens when you have lack of leadership at the level of POTUS and a POTUS that appoints leaders to HHS and CDC based on loyalty and party orthodoxy rather than competence.
Trump refuses to be accountable for anything so this is what happens when the man at the top constantly passes the buck.
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Wait, we aren’t talking about the same thing. I’m talking about the Dems who have been wrong at every turn. Aren’t those the people you think would be good leaders?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
techman05
Wait, we aren’t talking about the same thing. I’m talking about the Dems who have been wrong at every turn. Aren’t those the people you think would be good leaders?
We only have one President that overseas the agency responsible for disease control. We only have one President who wasted months of time to marshal a coordinated interagency response and set clear priorities on a national strategy. We have only one head of state that deals with China and got fooled by them. We have only one President with access to the powerful bully pulpit of the presidency to influence states and US citizens on a coherent message and strategy as to what should be done to control the disease.
He failed spectacularly at every turn.
He said China had it under control.
Then he said it was a hoax.
Then he said it was serious and millions would die if we don’t take lockdown measures.
Then he said that citizens should resist the lockdown.
He pushed HCQ as a treatment when Fauci and the studies didn’t support it.
Now he says it is China’s fault.
He has been all over the place but he has only been consistent with one part of his message: it is someone else’s fault.
Why do you want a president that doesn’t believe he is responsible for anything?
Wake up sheeple.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
We will just have to agree to disagree. I feel like Trump did all he could with the information that the INTERNATIONAL health community was telling him. He is not a politician who is trying to please one side of the aisle or the other. There is enough blame to go around. We don’t only blame James Davison when one of his drivers fails to deliver on time or has a traffic accident. Why does blame only go to the top when not concerns Trump?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
techman05
We will just have to agree to disagree. I feel like Trump did all he could with the information that the INTERNATIONAL health community was telling him. He is not a politician who is trying to please one side of the aisle or the other. There is enough blame to go around. We don’t only blame James Davison when one of his drivers fails to deliver on time or has a traffic accident. Why does blame only go to the top when not concerns Trump?
Trump CHOSE which voice to believe. Unfortunately he chose the voices on FoxNews and Xie over people like Pete Navarro who was on the ground in China and Nancy Messioner who is the Director for Immunization and Respiratory Disease at the CDC.
Turns out his gut instincts, which you guys normally celebrate led Trump completely astray. That is because his “gut” is really just a filter that interprets information as to how it will make him look if it were true. This leads him to discredit ideas that are bad news for him politically over information that, if true, would help him politically.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
And yet...while Trump is the president for all 50 states, it's the Dem-led states struggling the most...including Louisiana. If this was simply a case of poor leadership "at the top" we would see mostly consistent issues across all 50 states, with whoever was guvnor, Dem or Repub, irrelevant. But, that is not the case. For the most part Repub-led states are doing okay to very well, and it's some of the Dem-led states where the crisis is worst. But, unlike the finger-pointing Goosey, who only resides in his TDS political world, I don't place all the blame on those Dem guvnors. Like everyone else they have had to deal with conflicting information, and like everyone else, found themselves in a two-month hole thanks to the lies of the Chicoms, aided and abetted by WHO.
BUT!!! and for this I do place blame, there has been an inconsistent and just blatantly obvious attempt to wreck the national economy for political purposes. How do you justify liquor stores and abortion clinics open, but mom & pop hardware stores, grocery stores/delis, and churches closed?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 22
36,925 cases 2,545 deaths testing rate at 11.8%
867 in hosp 104 on vents
May 23
37,040 cases 2,560 deaths test rate at 11.8%
836 in hosp 112 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
And yet...while Trump is the president for all 50 states, it's the Dem-led states struggling the most...including Louisiana. If this was simply a case of poor leadership "at the top" we would see mostly consistent issues across all 50 states, with whoever was guvnor, Dem or Repub, irrelevant. But, that is not the case. For the most part Repub-led states are doing okay to very well, and it's some of the Dem-led states where the crisis is worst. But, unlike the finger-pointing Goosey, who only resides in his TDS political world, I don't place all the blame on those Dem guvnors. Like everyone else they have had to deal with conflicting information, and like everyone else, found themselves in a two-month hole thanks to the lies of the Chicoms, aided and abetted by WHO.
BUT!!! and for this I do place blame, there has been an inconsistent and just blatantly obvious attempt to wreck the national economy for political purposes. How do you justify liquor stores and abortion clinics open, but mom & pop hardware stores, grocery stores/delis, and churches closed?
Here is a Summary of the Public Health System of the US:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK218212/
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The federal government plays a large role in the public health system in the country. It surveys the population's health status and health needs, sets policies and standards, passes laws and regulations, supports biomedical and health services research, helps finance and sometimes delivers personal health services, provides technical assistance and resources to state and local health systems, provides protection against international health threats, and supports international efforts toward global health.
And if there is still any confusion...
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Leadership
The Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services is chosen by the President of the United States and sits in his Cabinet. The head of the Public Health Service, the Assistant Secretary for Health, is also appointed by the President. The Surgeon General, who is also appointed by the President, acts as an adviser to the Secretary and the Assistant Secretary.
So how would you rate the federal government’s response to this? And the leadership?
Piss poor obviously.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
They have done extremely well. Waaaaaaaaaaaay better than a Krooked Killary admin would have done. And veerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than a Biden admin would do.
What else you want to know?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
And yet...while Trump is the president for all 50 states, it's the Dem-led states struggling the most...including Louisiana. If this was simply a case of poor leadership "at the top" we would see mostly consistent issues across all 50 states, with whoever was guvnor, Dem or Repub, irrelevant. But, that is not the case. For the most part Repub-led states are doing okay to very well, and it's some of the Dem-led states where the crisis is worst. But, unlike the finger-pointing Goosey, who only resides in his TDS political world, I don't place all the blame on those Dem guvnors. Like everyone else they have had to deal with conflicting information, and like everyone else, found themselves in a two-month hole thanks to the lies of the Chicoms, aided and abetted by WHO.
BUT!!! and for this I do place blame, there has been an inconsistent and just blatantly obvious attempt to wreck the national economy for political purposes. How do you justify liquor stores and abortion clinics open, but mom & pop hardware stores, grocery stores/delis, and churches closed?
Nice. I copied and pasted this (with anonymous attribution to you) to reply to my most liberal TDS friend.
Been riding since your election? My bike was "quarantined" two months. Left it at the bike shop for a repair, two days later governor shut things down. Got it back last week.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Russdawg
Nice. I copied and pasted this (with anonymous attribution to you) to reply to my most liberal TDS friend.
Been riding since your election? My bike was "quarantined" two months. Left it at the bike shop for a repair, two days later governor shut things down. Got it back last week.
Only been riding periodically...I know, no excuses. I've just been lazy.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Yesterday's trips and travels around the region revealed less masks and many of those being worn are not being worn properly.
It was good to see baseball/softball players in uniform set to play in some local tournaments.
Just my gut feeling, but I don't expect nursing home visits to happen until late summer. Hopefully by then the rapid testing of employees and visitors will be streamlined.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Yesterday's trips and travels around the region revealed less masks and many of those being worn are not being worn properly.
It was good to see baseball/softball players in uniform set to play in some local tournaments.
Just my gut feeling, but I don't expect nursing home visits to happen until late summer. Hopefully by then the rapid testing of employees and visitors will be streamlined.
Apparently they will be starting in assisted living facilities this week.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Apparently they will be starting in assisted living facilities this week.
I'm sure you know, but assisted living facilitie residents are not as "needy" as nursing home residents. Some still drive and require no assistance. 35% have zero ADLs being supported. I can see that it would be more difficult to keep the no visit ban in place there. Some of the ALFs also have nursing home wings or Alzheimer wings attached. It will be more difficult for those facilities to open up to visitors.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 23
37,040 cases 2,560 deaths test rate at 11.8%
836 in hosp 112 on vents
May 24
37,169 cases 2,567 deaths test rate at 11.8%
813 in hosp 102 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
I don't know how accurate the updates are over weekends. They often seem to lag and then on Monday, or maybe Tuesday this week, bam! the numbers roll in. Also, I have read several accounts that the state's actual positive testing rate, statewide, is 6.1% or something close to that. I just use the posted data to calculate, 11.8% in this case.
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 24
37,169 cases 2,567 deaths test rate at 11.8%
813 in hosp 102 on vents
May 25
37,809 cases 2,585 deaths test rate at 11.4%
847 in hosp 102 on vents
76% recovering rate
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
techman05
Wait, we aren’t talking about the same thing. I’m talking about the Dems who have been wrong at every turn. Aren’t those the people you think would be good leaders?
Exactly. The Democrats were too focused on "Impeachment" at precisely the same time they should have been focusing and preparing for the Coronavirus.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 25
37,809 cases 2,585 deaths test rate at 11.4%
847 in hosp 102 on vents
76% recovering rate
May 26
38,054 cases 2,596 deaths test rate at 11.2%
831 in hosp 103 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 26
38,054 cases 2,596 deaths test rate at 11.2%
831 in hosp 103 on vents
May 27
38,497 cases 2,617 deaths test rate at 11.2%
798 in hosp 100 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 27
38,497 cases 2,617 deaths test rate at 11.2%
798 in hosp 100 on vents
May 28
38,802 cases 2,635 deaths test rate at 10.9%
761 in hosp 100 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
In Natchitoches, there are three large nursing home facilities. The smallest of the three, has been hit hard by C-19. All 49 residents and 20 of the staff have tested positive. On the other hand the two larger facilities with a combined 190 residents have ZERO cases among the patients and a total of 3 in the combined staffs. The Rehab Center (49) is the one with three lawsuits against it. Of the 13 deaths connected to the virus in the parish, 7 of them have occurred in the Rehab Center. They obviously adopted Andrew Coumo's formula...
There have been 157 cases in the parish, 69 of those in that one facility. It is sad and tragic that the folks in charge there have fumbled the ball so badly, but it does point to a bigger picture that in a parish of 39,000 people outside of that one isolated place, there have been 88 cases and 6 deaths. And we don't know if some of those 88 cases are not also connected to the Rehab Center, maybe they were visitors.
BTW, Natchitoches Parish has received another D- in "our" adherence to the recommended policies of social distancing and wearing masks. There were over 200 citations written during the 3-week curfew mandate, and that represents only a small percentage of the violations. Some folks have not changed their behavior even a little bit the whole time. Of course, their behavior has been changed for them in some cases. For instance, bars and restaurants have been closed, but they simply switched to getting drunk in someone's house/backyard instead. Maybe Natchitoches has developed the herd immunity thingy, and that is why despite poor adherence the numbers haven't spiked. Or....maybe this whole thing is just an over-blown hoax. Maybe?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 28
38,802 cases 2,635 deaths test rate at 10.9%
761 in hosp 100 on vents
May 29
38,802 cases 2,661 deaths test rate at 10.9%
714 in hosp 90 on vents
No new cases!?
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 29
38,802 cases 2,661 deaths test rate at 10.9%
714 in hosp 90 on vents
No new cases!?
From the LDH: "Due to network technical issues, case and testing data could not be updated today. The data on deaths and hospitalization have not been impacted. Once resolved, LDH will update at the next noon update."
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Originally Posted by
FriscoDawg
From the LDH: "Due to network technical issues, case and testing data could not be updated today. The data on deaths and hospitalization have not been impacted. Once resolved, LDH will update at the next noon update."
Dang! rain on our parade.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
May 30
39,577 cases 2,680 deaths test rate at 10.7%
674 in hosp 84 on vents
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 29
38,802 cases 2,661 deaths test rate at 10.9%
714 in hosp 90 on vents
May 30
39,577 cases 2,680 deaths test rate at 10.7%
674 in hosp 84 on vents
Be careful, the number of patients that you are reporting on "vents" is consistently going down. That's bound to piss somebody off. :laugh:
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
Be careful, the number of patients that you are reporting on "vents" is consistently going down. That's bound to piss somebody off. :laugh:
They'll probably turn a bunch of killer hornets loose or something...
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
They'll probably turn a bunch of killer hornets loose or something...
....yep, and claim they were COVID deaths...:laugh:
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 30
39,577 cases 2,680 deaths test rate at 10.7%
674 in hosp 84 on vents
May 31
39,916 cases 2,686 deaths test rate at 10.6%
678 in hosp 84 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
May 31
39,916 cases 2,686 deaths test rate at 10.6%
678 in hosp 84 on vents
June 1
40,341 cases 2,690 deaths test rate at 10.4%
661 in hosp 86 on vents
Recovery rate is 78.6%
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
June 1
40,341 cases 2,690 deaths test rate at 10.4%
661 in hosp 86 on vents
Recovery rate is 78.6%
June 2
40,746 cases 2,724 deaths test rate at 10.4%
639 in hosp 83 on vents
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
June 2
40,746 cases 2,724 deaths test rate at 10.4%
639 in hosp 83 on vents
June 3
41,133 cases 2,759 deaths test rate at 10.2%
617 in hosp 86 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
I have noticed the maps being shown on the local news for several weeks now. Particularly Morehouse Parish and Ashley County Arkansas. Morehouse has about 25K population. Ashley has about 20K. Morehouse has reported 93 cases and 5 deaths. Ashley has reported 19 cases and 0 deaths. Another reason to call BS on the false reporting happening in Louisiana.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
I have noticed the maps being shown on the local news for several weeks now. Particularly Morehouse Parish and Ashley County Arkansas. Morehouse has about 25K population. Ashley has about 20K. Morehouse has reported 93 cases and 5 deaths. Ashley has reported 19 cases and 0 deaths. Another reason to call BS on the false reporting happening in Louisiana.
Why would you expect the two parish/counties to be the same? Outbreaks aren’t a homogenous thing.
Btw, while Louisiana is trending the right direction, Texas is going the wrong way...
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Why would you expect the two parish/counties to be the same? Outbreaks aren’t a homogenous thing.
Btw, while Louisiana is trending the right direction, Texas is going the wrong way...
The demographics of Morehouse Parish and Ashley County are almost identical. Who says there was an "outbreak" in Morehouse? Many Ashley residents travel through and/or work in Morehouse.
Texas is still testing at a much higher rate than Louisiana, but you and MSNBC continue to ignore the most important stat..
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
June 3
41,133 cases 2,759 deaths test rate at 10.2%
617 in hosp 86 on vents
June 4
41,562 cases 2,772 deaths test rate at 10.1%
613 in hosp 82 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
The demographics of Morehouse Parish and Ashley County are almost identical. Who says there was an "outbreak" in Morehouse? Many Ashley residents travel through and/or work in Morehouse.
Texas is still testing at a much higher rate than Louisiana, but you and MSNBC continue to ignore the most important stat..
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.axi...8a607154d.html
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
According to the CDC, people age 65 and older make up over 80% of all Coronavirus deaths in the U.S. In fact, as the graph in the story below shows, deaths from Coronavirus are almost non-existent for people under the age of 35. Just the facts....
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articl...fatalities
That same story has another graph that demonstrates that the risk of dying from Coronavirus is EXACTLY the same as the risk of dying from Influenza for a person in the 25-34 year old age bracket. Furthermore, people in the age brackets under age 25 have a GREATER chance of dying from Influenza than they do of dying from Coronavirus.
Since 90% of college football players fit into the under 25 age bracket, this means college athletes --as an age group-- are more likely to die from Influenza than Coronavirus. So it's accurate to state that --for this age group-- the death rate for Coronavirus and Influenza victims are relatively equivalent.
Again.....just the facts....
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
According to the CDC, people age 65 and older make up over 80% of all Coronavirus deaths in the U.S. In fact, as the graph in the story below shows, deaths from Coronavirus are almost non-existent for people under the age of 35. Just the facts....
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articl...fatalities
That same story has another graph that demonstrates that the risk of dying from Coronavirus is EXACTLY the same as the risk of dying from Influenza for a person in the 25-34 year old age bracket. Furthermore, people in the age brackets under age 25 have a GREATER chance of dying from Influenza than they do of dying from Coronavirus.
Since 90% of college football players fit into the under 25 age bracket, this means college athletes --as an age group-- are more likely to die from Influenza than Coronavirus. So it's accurate to state that --for this age group-- the death rate for Coronavirus and Influenza victims are relatively equivalent.
Again.....just the facts....
Yet, they are just as likely to be a vector for COVID to accelerate its spread. Just like the dumbasses that are running around without masks acting like it’s not a pandemic causing flare ups in Texas, Arkansas and Alabama right now.
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Yet, they are just as likely to be a vector for COVID to accelerate its spread. Just like the dumbasses that are running around without masks acting like it’s not a pandemic causing flare ups in Texas, Arkansas and Alabama right now.
Not wearing masks has caused the "flair ups"? Where did you get those stats?
Focus on the terrorists who are not wearing masks.
Are exposed nostrils above the masks allowed? I see that everyday.
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Not wearing masks has caused the "flair ups"? Where did you get those stats?
Focus on the terrorists who are not wearing masks.
Are exposed nostrils above the masks allowed? I see that everyday.
We know transmission rates are down where mask wearing is high and vice versa. We know this disease is spread through respiration and carried on water droplets. The transmission trends match what you would expect logically.
You should probably kindly point out to folks when their mask is not positioned properly. They are obviously making an effort to do the right thing, and might just appreciate your concern.
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Originally Posted by
PawDawg
Focus on the terrorists who are not wearing masks.
Trump won’t wear a mask. He is a big part of the problem.
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Trump won’t wear a mask. He is a big part of the problem.
:laugh:
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
June 4
41,562 cases 2,772 deaths test rate at 10.1%
613 in hosp 82 on vents
June 5
41,989 cases 2,801 deaths test rate at 10.0%
604 in hosp 75 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
GooberBoy still preaching his buffoonish mantra? High IQ, low smarts!
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Originally Posted by
CARTEK
GooberBoy still preaching his buffoonish mantra? High IQ, low smarts!
Agreed. Intelligent idiot!
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Originally Posted by
CARTEK
GooberBoy still preaching his buffoonish mantra? High IQ, low smarts!
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Originally Posted by
Bulldawg81
Agreed. Intelligent idiot!
Where do you see the evidence of intelligence in Goosey? There's a reason the term "libtard" was coined, it decribes morons like him. Unable to learn from repeated events and mountains of evidence all pointing directly at failed liberal policies that consistently make matters worse and harm those people the policies were intended to help. Intelligence is not measured only in the volume of information someone can access, it's also the practical application of it. Dogs, dolphins, chimps can all be trained to perform tasks that appears to indicate the presence of real intelligence (and yes these animals, and others, are more intelligent than cows, and the like) but it is just conditioning. Goosey is dutiful in spouting what his puppet masters tell him to do, even when it is proven wrong time and time again. Hardly the stuff of real intelligence.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
Guisslapp needs enlightenment. He's been so thoroughly brainwashed by the corrupt, liberal media that he's become nothing more than another mouthpiece for those who control the media's narrative.
Wake up Goosey, before it's too late.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
June 5
41,989 cases 2,801 deaths test rate at 10.0%
604 in hosp 75 on vents
June 6
42,486 cases 2,814 deaths test rate at 10.0%
582 in hosp 77 on vents
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
dawg80
June 6
42,486 cases 2,814 deaths test rate at 8.7% (hmmm, might be some delay in reporting)
582 in hosp 77 on vents
This CAN'T BE right! Guisslapp the goofball said we're all dying from COVID. Your numbers are obviously wrong. I can go back in this SAME THREAD and see previous hospitalization and vent numbers TWICE as high (maybe more) as the ones quoted above. And YOU quoted 'em.
This is obviously a huge mistake, because everyone knows Guisslapp is never wrong.
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Re: Covid - 19 - Louisiana Edition
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Originally Posted by
Guisslapp
Yet, they are just as likely to be a vector for COVID to accelerate its spread. Just like the dumbasses that are running around without masks acting like it’s not a pandemic causing flare ups in Texas, Arkansas and Alabama right now.
No, you can thank PROTESTING, for THAT.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/06/02/texas-protests-george-floyd-coronavirus/
CORONAVIRUS in TEXAS:
“I didn’t care if I was exposed to COVID”: Protesters’ anger outweighed their fear of getting sick
Political leaders have sought to balance support for demonstrators’ rights of free expression with warnings about the public health risks of large crowds.
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Originally Posted by
HogDawg
This CAN'T BE right! Guisslapp the goofball said we're all dying from COVID. Your numbers are obviously wrong. I can go back in this SAME THREAD and see previous hospitalization and vent numbers TWICE as high (maybe more) as the ones quoted above. And YOU quoted 'em.
This is obviously a huge mistake, because everyone knows Guisslapp is never wrong.
That is what a lockdown and social distancing does. It slows the spread.