Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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TYLERTECHSAS
Heck, can you even teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies at a publicly funded university these days? So here comes the homosexual agenda thrown in our face again at every turn it seems.
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Originally Posted by
maverick
Yes. Do you consider that an agenda that is thrown in people's face? I certainly don't. It's an area of study that people can CHOOSE.
Then find some courses at our public university that "teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies" because I just went through all of Tech's courses and didn't find any Bible courses. This was the only course I found and it's not on Old or Old Test. Bible. Just one course compared to a whole new degree on LGBT at ULL. Give me a break!
415: History of the Christian Church. 0-3-3. A study of the rise and
expansion of the Christian Church and its enormous influence on world
history. (G)
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Maverick, I agree that adding this type of content to a course is appropriate when it is relevant to the course. For example, if a sociology course is talking about equal rights or discrimination, then it is perfectly normal to talk about the subject as it pertains to gay people. But, creating an entire major/minor and adding content to existing courses that will be taken by people not majoring in this is an over-reach (insert reach-around joke here) in my opinion.
In Tech77's earlier post, he listed 95 courses that will have GLBT content added to them. I read that list and some of it just seems crazy. What gay content do you add to an English course? History? Art? Acting?...and I don't even want to think about Independent Study. Do you just mention specific gay people that were authors or poets? If that is the case, then where does it stop? Should we also add content about blue-eyed people who have contributed to those same areas? Christians? Atheists? Left handed construction workers? Where does it stop? a I'm honestly not trying to be "political" about this, but it seems that they are going out of their way to cater to a certain group. I understand that gay people have contributed to many different industries, but talking about gay people who have contributed to the art world does not enhance the student's understanding of art itself. I think this is a bit of a waste.
But the bigger question, IMO, is what the hell do you do with a degree in this? Bitch about oil companies for a living? Seems like a big waste of time and resources to me.
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Then find some courses at our public university that "teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies" because I just went through all of Tech's courses and didn't find any Bible courses. This was the only course I found and it's not on Old or Old Test. Bible. Just one course compared to a whole new degree on LGBT at ULL. Give me a break!
415: History of the Christian Church. 0-3-3. A study of the rise and
expansion of the Christian Church and its enormous influence on world
history. (G)
We studied excepts from the KJV of The Bible in my British literature class at Tech. We also studied all the different creation stories (which included Genesis) in my ancient civilizations class.
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Heck, can you even teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies at a publicly funded university these days? So here comes the homosexual agenda thrown in our face again at every turn it seems.
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Then find some courses at our public university that "teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies" because I just went through all of Tech's courses and didn't find any Bible courses. This was the only course I found and it's not on Old or Old Test. Bible. Just one course compared to a whole new degree on LGBT at ULL. Give me a break!
415: History of the Christian Church. 0-3-3. A study of the rise and
expansion of the Christian Church and its enormous influence on world
history. (G)
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Dawg06
We studied excepts from the KJV of The Bible in my British Literature class at Tech.
Compared to ULL's 95 courses that will have GLBT content??? That's insane!!!
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TYLERTECHSAS
Compared to ULL's 95 courses that will have GLBT content??? That's insane!!!
I agree, some people really need to go back and refresh/study the bible, especially Matthew 22:36-40
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36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
I know I don't want to know about what my neighbor does in his bedroom in private and hope my neighbor doesn't stick his nose in what I do...
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Heck, can you even teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies at a publicly funded university these days? So here comes the homosexual agenda thrown in our face again at every turn it seems.
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Then find some courses at our public university that "teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies" because I just went through all of Tech's courses and didn't find any Bible courses. This was the only course I found and it's not on Old or Old Test. Bible. Just one course compared to a whole new degree on LGBT at ULL. Give me a break!
415: History of the Christian Church. 0-3-3. A study of the rise and
expansion of the Christian Church and its enormous influence on world
history. (G)
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GermDawg
I agree, some people really need to go back and refresh/study the bible, especially Matthew 22:36-40
I know I don't want to know about what my neighbor does in his bedroom in private and hope my neighbor doesn't stick his nose in what I do...
This is public funding we are talking about. Stay focused.
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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TYLERTECHSAS
This is public funding we are talking about. Stay focused.
Pay attention then...
http://louisiana.edu/blogs/president/
From the ULL President's blog: "The development of this new minor did not require budgetary allocations or divert resources from other areas as it allows students to choose from a list of nearly 100 existing courses across several disciplines."
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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GermDawg
Pay attention then...
http://louisiana.edu/blogs/president/
From the ULL President's blog: "The development of this new minor did not require budgetary allocations or divert resources from other areas as it allows students to choose from a list of nearly 100 existing courses across several disciplines."
ULL's president is not being honest (imagine that). Although ULL didn't allocate additional funding for the LGBT program this year, public money is supporting this program, and ULL has reallocated various resources to this program that would have been used elsewhere. They now have a program director and a program coordinator. They will be taking field trips to San Francisco and New York to better study the LGBT communities. They plan to create cards with QR scanners to promote the program. They plan to create an interactive website. They plan to acquire funds through grants and scholarship money to fund the program. They plan to host events during ULL's LGBT awareness month in October. That's just the beginning as they plan to really grow the program and see a very bright future. All of that requires public money and resources.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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I'm glad it's them and not us. I don't say that in a homophobic way, but this just seems like an enormous waste of resources.
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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Originally Posted by
TYLERTECHSAS
Then find some courses at our public university that "teach Old or New Testament Bible or even Christian studies" because I just went through all of Tech's courses and didn't find any Bible courses. This was the only course I found and it's not on Old or Old Test. Bible. Just one course compared to a whole new degree on LGBT at ULL. Give me a break!
415: History of the Christian Church. 0-3-3. A study of the rise and
expansion of the Christian Church and its enormous influence on world
history. (G)
Your original question was not about Louisiana Tech. You asked whether such courses are allowed to be taught at a public university.
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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They now have a program director and a program coordinator. They will be taking field trips to San Francisco and New York to better study the LGBT communities. They plan to create cards with QR scanners to promote the program. They plan to create an interactive website. They plan to acquire funds through grants and scholarship money to fund the program. They plan to host events during ULL's LGBT awareness month in October. That's just the beginning as they plan to really grow the program and see a very bright future.
Individual colleges on a university campus certainly do some of these type things...or all of these type things. Certainly there is promotion of some specific majors or programs involving multiple majors on a university campus. I can't think of any MINOR DEGREE PROGRAMS that receive this much attention.
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RhythmDawg
Individual colleges on a university campus certainly do some of these type things...or all of these type things. Certainly there is promotion of some specific majors or programs involving multiple majors on a university campus. I can't think of any MINOR DEGREE PROGRAMS that receive this much attention.
It's because promoting the minor is secondary. It's not a real degree. What they are really promoting is their personal lifestyle, culture, and social agenda. The LGBT minor just gives them a bigger platform and appears to legitimize their cause.
Re: U-La-La, the 1st Gay University
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Dawg06
Nobody forced the LGBT program on ULL. It was completely in house as it was pushed by a professor, coordinator, and several students, all people at ULL with an agenda.
However, the LGBT agenda will be pushed onto students not pursuing the minor as LGBT content has been added to almost 100 courses at ULL. Yes, LGBT content is appropriate for some of those courses, but LGBT content is unnecessary in many of those courses. Therefore, the LGBT agenda will be forced onto students not taking the LGBT curriculum.
Many students take programs of study such as nursing, counseling, social work, psychology, pre-med, and other human services related fields. These students are not enrolled in programs entitled LGBT, Black, White, religious, male, female, or any other diversity-related term. But you better believe they learn how to work with people of all of these subcultures. They learn about respecting differences and that culture matters when working with people of diverse backgrounds and they learn specifics about subcultures, including LGBT. Do you see that as forcing that on students?
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maverick
Many students take programs of study such as nursing, counseling, social work, psychology, pre-med, and other human services related fields. These students are not enrolled in programs entitled LGBT, Black, White, religious, male, female, or any other diversity-related term. But you better believe they learn how to work with people of all of these subcultures. They learn about respecting differences and that culture matters when working with people of diverse backgrounds and they learn specifics about subcultures, including LGBT. Do you see that as forcing that on students?
I already said that some of those courses are appropriate for LGBT content. However, you are ignoring my point. Many of those courses have absolutely no need for LGBT content. So yes, that is forcing the LGBT agenda onto students. In addition, students don't need to take a college course "to learn how to work with people of all those subcultures" or "to learn about respecting differences" blah blah blah...
