Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!
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Have you looked at the evidence available? How many attempts have you made to disprove more voters “voted” than are registered in several precincts. That doesn’t bother you?
You aren’t concerned that thousands of votes show up when no one was supposed to be counting? Did you know that took place at the exact time on line transmissions ere made from other countries, that people who do these analyses have documented this happening?
You should be very concerned, because if it is true (Ian convinced) we all are in a fix if we don’t get this addressed.
Please think this. Through and look at the information available. Swallow your pride and look it over for yourself.
I wanted to know so I took it in. My concern now is not about the results of this election but over the fact the maanipulation of voting machines has been under way before this election, and it is being done b y foreigners who don’t like you or me.
doo your homework, a YouTube search for Youri Bezmenov warning to America 1984
I mean, I don't want to get in a "who googled it more" argument. I'll concede that upfront. But I have read enough to be convinced that there was no widespread determinate fraud. I've said multiple times that with millions of votes counted, almost certainly Biden got some that weren't "legit" and almost certainly Trump did, too. And probably some that were ok weren't counted but should have been (for both guys). But all the "fraud" evidence I've seen in this thread and elsewhere is spectacularly unconvincing to me. It's often clearly not what it claims to be on the surface (like "there were more votes than people" and then it turns out that you have the wrong state) or is convincingly debunked later (like the "secret bags of votes" that turned out to be normal procedure) or as this has gone on, just wildly untenable right off the bat ("Hugo Chavez programmed the voting machines to change the votes" or the pillow guy's video that's so wild OAN had to air a lengthy disclaimer that he paid for his time and it wasn't "news").
But as to "have you looked at all the evidence?" Well, no. I wasn't in the courtroom (although you can read the results easily enough). I'm not an election official, I don't know all the normal procedures for every county and wasn't there to confirm they were followed. I don't think a list of links is effective proof that I know anything, but "do your homework?" I mean, I've actually linked to a lot of it throughout this crazy long discussion:
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I thought
this piece that Johnny linked to in another thread explains (in part) why that isn't really a thing here and keeps getting dismissed (besides the laches issue of not challenging until millions of people had already voted).
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That's an opinion column..
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I don't regularly read the New York Times. I'm not even sure I could (I think it's mostly paywalled). I saw a link to this column, read it and liked it.
Here is yet another column that seems relevant (this time from a conservative news source, albeit one that is highly critical of Trump). The most relevant piece in particular addresses your theory about COVID as a plot to overturn the election, but the whole thing is worth reading.
https://thedispatch.com/p/conspiracy...e-incompatible
They've got a good fact check section, too.
https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/
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I literally listed 10 different sources.
If dozens of news agencies report one thing, and just the one reports something else. . . I mean it's possible that there is a massive cover-up going on and some amazing ground-breaking investigative journalism going on. I'm sure that
could happen. But the facts ought to be the same everywhere. Is Newsmax reporting that the court cases are going well? Because if they are, that's easy to check - you can read the actual results (directly if you don't trust the institutional reporting, even if it's just quoting judgements).
Why is it that you think Newsmax has the inside scoop here? Is it because of their journalistic credentials? Their history of being correct when others were factually incorrect? Their successful predictions? Their compelling, well-reasoned arguments that have been born out in reality? Or is there maybe some other reason I haven't thought of (or
have)?
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https://www.npr.org/sections/biden-t...ce=twitter.com
"Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so," federal appellate Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote in an opinion released Friday denying the Trump campaign's challenge of the results in Pennsylvania. "Charges require specific allegations and then proof," said Bibas, whom Trump nominated to the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in 2017. "We have neither here."
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I tried to read a lot of the ones posted by others in this thread. This obviously isn't everything I've read or heard on the topic. Believe it or not I clicked on a lot of the links from Don and Frisco. I just tended to find them, let's say. . . less than compelling. Maybe that's just pure bias on my part (although many of those I've linked to above would be considered republican sites, and some of the authors claimed to have voted for Trump).
Like I said, I don't want any kind of "who read more and therefore has a deeper understanding" argument. But if you're going to claim widespread fraud, you have to prove it. Maybe it's been proven to you, but I remain unconvinced. You only get to claim the wrong counties from the wrong states so many times with me.
Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!
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I have already congratulated you commie bastards for the "grand theft election." It was well planned and executed...and of course it included the destruction of evidence. Congrats to Tom Brady for #7 and congrats to you commies for stealing the election. I don't like either outcome, but it is what it is.
Why are you quoting me and saying "you commie bastards?" I'm not a commie bastard and I didn't steal anything.
I just disagree with you that anything was stolen.
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Why are you quoting me and saying "you commie bastards?" I'm not a commie bastard and I didn't steal anything.
I just disagree with you that anything was stolen.
If you're not with us....American patriots...then you are against us.
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If you're not with us....American patriots...then you are against us.
This is remarkably illogical and symptomatic of much of the problem in our political system.
If "I don't see evidence of systemic determinate fraud" is equal to "commie bastards" who are "against us" then, I mean, yeah I guess so, but that's really stupid.
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Racist. :laugh:
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Well, whoopsie
The whoopsie is why this wasn't brought last fall before the November election because some of the violations had already occurred.
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The whoopsie is why this wasn't brought last fall before the November election because some of the violations had already occurred.
Got that right
Re: Democrat voter fraud is on!
The reason there was no proven voter fraud is because none of the judges would take the cases. They were afraid antifa would loot and burn all over the US, including their own homes. Notice that all of the plywood was taken down from businesses after they learned that the election had been stolen by crooked democrats.
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Did they all vote Biden? Yes the mail in thing is great. They should not discriminate against those who don’t have a pulse.
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Did they all vote Biden? Yes the mail in thing is great. They should not discriminate against those who don’t have a pulse.
Dead people don’t vote (unless their kids are Republican). Being on a voter roll (being registered) doesn’t mean you voted.
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Dead people don’t vote (unless their kids are Republican). Being on a voter roll (being registered) doesn’t mean you voted.
We know one of them voted for Trump.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.for...hers-name/amp/
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The reason there was no proven voter fraud is because none of the judges would take the cases. They were afraid antifa would loot and burn all over the US, including their own homes. Notice that all of the plywood was taken down from businesses after they learned that the election had been stolen by crooked democrats.
Lotta judges looked at a lotta cases. The reason there wasn't systemic voter fraud proven is because there wasn't proof that it happened (because it probably didn't at any real levels).
