Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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johnnylightnin
Is Boise any closer to a P5 invite than they were before the Peterson years?
I think we'd all love to be where they are, but what has it really gotten them? At the G5 level, can one season, or even a string of seasons, ever make a lasting impact? I think the answer is only yes if that season or string of seasons leads to a higher profile and more money. Those two things only arrive in significant ways once you reach the P5 level.
Yes, Boise State gets several very good Texas HS players (and other NATIONAL signees) each year because of what they've done getting to Access Bowls. In addition to the ENORMOUS PRESTIGE they've also garnered their conference $18M+ each time they've gone to these games.
Just as in baseball and basketball, Louisiana Tech beating LSU would just be seen as "yeah, LSU had a down year. Its not like Tech will do that again in the next 100 years".
A single win over LSU would be nice, but we need to think bigger than that if we want to thrive in FBS football and adequately fund our athletics programs.
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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DogsWin
Yes, Boise State gets several very good Texas HS players (and other NATIONAL signees) each year because of what they've done getting to Access Bowls. In addition to the ENORMOUS PRESTIGE they've also garnered their conference $18M+ each time they've gone to these games.
I guess it depends on how we define terms and how we compare.
The end game has got to be P5 or we're all just talking about being the king of the midgets. I hate it, you hate it, and the American people hate it, but there it is.
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I agree. But it is muuuuch better to be a well thought of and well paid king of the midgets, than just another poor little midget.
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Before I die, yep, this is on my bucket list, I'd like to see LA TECH beat LSU in a football game!! It doesn't matter if it is only by one point!!
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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70TECHGRAD
Before I die, yep, this is on my bucket list, I'd like to see LA TECH beat LSU in a football game!! It doesn't matter if it is only by one point!!
How about this-- whichever one of us dies first see if you can get Big Guy to let Tech win so survivor can enjoy the win===
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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HogDawg
I never said we are not worthy. To the contrary, YOU did. YOU are the weenie that's afraid of LSU. You're the one that just admitted --in writing-- that you are more concerned about becoming a laughing stock in Louisiana. (I can't believe you actually admitted that. LOL!) :laugh:
Getting past all the silly sniping, I do believe LA Tech can and should beat LSU in 2018. LSU's Coach O really does suck. And yes, beating LSU would go much farther in the hearts and minds of Louisianians than LA Tech winning an access bowl over some no-name P5 that nobody in Louisiana really cares about. That's just a fact.
Man, you're on a roll! And, you are wrong again!
I never said anything....except the comment about our QB situation...about the outcome of the game. I said only someone with a Southland Conference mentality would elevate this ONE regular season game to the level of our Super Bowl. I don't give a rat's butt what other Louisianaians think about this game, or what they might think should we win. It's irrelevant. We are not wide-eyed ulm fans (all 16 of 'em) who wet their panties at just the thought of playing the tiggers. Well...except you. You are right there with 'em.
The laughing stock is what you are, and how you're tainting this board with such nonsense. Very disappointed in you.
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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johnnylightnin
Depends on how you define relevant I guess. They're the kings of the kiddie table...which is a tenuous position. That's my only point.
I think to an individual we would all change places with them in a heart beat and kick in cash to boot right now...
I think Boise is feared by most P5 programs - other G5's not so much...
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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johnnylightnin
I guess it depends on how we define terms and how we compare.
The end game has got to be P5 or we're all just talking about being the king of the midgets. I hate it, you hate it, and the American people hate it, but there it is.
Great, then hypothetically which would matter to the big 12 if they were looking to expand. I'm not saying an Access bowl gets us in, but it would be a hell of a lot more important than a single win over LSU. An access bowl puts us in the conversation as one of the best G5 teams out there. That's what the P5 is going to look for when they expand. The fact of the matter is we need almost all of the things on our list to be considered for a P5 conference. The one thing we could live without is the win over LSU. Give us a few 10+ win seasons, Conference championships, season ending to 25 rankings, and access bowls and I promise we are in consideration for a P5 spot.
People mentioned Boise. Boise would be in a P5 if their academics were better. Utah and TCU might have moved to P5 without their appearances in the Access bowl, but they certainly helped.
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The key to better conference affiliation is budget size -
Best way to increase that budget is through winning and winning BIG - not a one off win verses the State Wal-Mart Fan's School
Put three 10 win regular seasons together over a period of 5 years and see what that gets us...
A WHOLE LOT MORE than a single win vs LSU
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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detltu
I see a lot of people are limiting this to Louisiana. Yes, beating LSU would be bigger in Louisiana than an Access bowl. There is a world outside of Louisiana though. I think beating LSU would help our perception. I mentioned I don't think people would suddenly put us on equal footing. It would be seen as more of a fluke. However it would help general perception and would probably help recruiting. We would probably get a little bump in attendance, but the only people who would be moved by the LSU win would be alums who have gone to the dark side but haven't fully succumbed.
An access bowl would probably be forgotten within the state sooner, but would have a much bigger impact on perception everywhere else. Being one of the teams to make the access bowl would go a long way in future conference realignments.
The LSU win would be Alabama part 2. We all still love the 99 win over Alabama, but beyond our own fans, who really talks about it now.
Bottom line I guess I will take any of the things on my list for next year.
Bama fans. All. The. Time.
Just 12 hours ago:
Scott W. Hunter @SWHesq
12hReplying to @crimsonhotmess
I watched Tim Rattay and La Tech beat us. Twice. The 21-0 loss to So Miss was okay bc their qb grew up playing park ball with my brother and no big schools would give him a chance.
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
Last year Western Michigan went undefeated and got the Access Bowl bid.
This year? WMU was bowl eligible at 6-6 but not selected for a bowl game. The Frisco Bowl selected us at 6-6 over last year's Access Bowl participant.
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
Sure...anybody would take "a few" 10-win seasons over one win against LSU, but that's not the question that was asked. I think Access Bowl is a little more compelling than "major bowl", but I'm still not sure either isolated event gets us very far, but LSU would certainly carry more weight (as a one time thing) when paired with a 9 or 10 win season in our state. I don't care about the walmart fans...they're are a lot of folks who know football that would take notice if we beat LSU.
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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Dawg06
Last year Western Michigan went undefeated and got the Access Bowl bid.
This year? WMU was bowl eligible at 6-6 but not selected for a bowl game. The Frisco Bowl selected us at 6-6 over last year's Access Bowl participant.
And the same thing could happen with a win over LSU. I can also promise you a Bowl in Michigan would have selected WMU over us. Again, none of it matters if you don't sustain it somewhat but getting the access bowl is a bigger mark on your resume than a P5 win.
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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Dawg06
Last year Western Michigan went undefeated and got the Access Bowl bid.
This year? WMU was bowl eligible at 6-6 but not selected for a bowl game. The Frisco Bowl selected us at 6-6 over last year's Access Bowl participant.
Geography and local distance to potential $$$ to be spent drove that decision - nothing more, nothing less
Roles reversed and they select WMU...
And to my point - WMU hasn't put together the run that Boise St has either...
What was Boise State's football budget in 1999-2001 and what is it the last 5 years - what was Tech's football budget 1999-2001 and what was it the last 5 years?
Re: What would have greater implications for LaTech next year?
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Dwayne From Minden
Geography and local distance to potential $$$ to be spent drove that decision - nothing more, nothing less
Roles reversed and they select WMU...
And to my point - WMU hasn't put together the run that Boise St has either...
What was Boise State's football budget in 1999-2001 and what is it the last 5 years - what was Tech's football budget 1999-2001 and what was it the last 5 years?
Sure.
WMU's access bowl really had no lasting implications other than losing their coach and their program having to start over again. Same with Hawai'i.
I just think this is a silly question that's elicited even sillier responses.
First of all, to get the Access Bowl bid, there's probably at least a 90% likelihood we'd have to beat LSU to earn it. And if we are good enough to beat LSU, there's also a good chance we are good enough to win at least 10 games and a C-USA championship.
Without sustained high level success like Boise/Utah/TCU, going to a BCS/Access Bowl will lose its value like what happened with Hawai'i/WMU. The goal is to be like Utah/TCU and catapult the success into a Big 12 invite when Texas inevitably leaves. Luckily for us, Tech doesn't have the academic reputation of Boise State.
However, Tech beating LSU in football would certainly be talked about forever regardless of circumstances.
Let me add this. We have the opportunity to go to an Access Bowl every year. Getting a shot to beat LSU doesn't come around often.
