You could have stopped with 'I think'. What you 'think' may not be what others would if you provide them with the complete citation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
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You could have stopped with 'I think'. What you 'think' may not be what others would if you provide them with the complete citation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
The complete citation was the link above. I quoted the part where “no truer words have ever been spoken.” The rest of the article, including the part you cited was conjecture.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue
My thinking is well founded by facts, which we could discuss.
Nope! sorry Goosey, my good friend. Nothing you post re: Trump is based solely in "well founded by facts."Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
...says the guy who thinks testing everyone and isolation of those who test positive is the solution. Possibly in Wyoming or Idaho, but not New York or California or ANY heavily populated area. Great plan you and the rest of the Trump haters have though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
This is not the time when testing and isolation will do much good. That time has past but will eventually come back around again if we maintain the lockdowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
The majority of the article was a timeline of events. Are you saying that all of these events are 'conjectured'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
It's easy to sit on the sidelines three months later and say we could have done more. Do you think Hillary would have done any better? The only reason she could have would the Chinese may not have released it or would have given her more of a heads up that it was coming.
Please enlighten us with how this should have been handled. But please don't consider you have the additional three months knowledge.
“We can only wonder whether accurate and timely information from China would have altered the way the U.S. government, the American people, and the world prepared for the oncoming danger of infection.“Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue
This part that you quoted is explicitly conjecture. The commentary around the timeline includes conjecture.
I believe anyone would have done a better job than Trump, because Trump is the only president we have had that goes with his gut rather than what his experts tell him.
You could go through this thread where I documented in real time some of the things that I would have thought were reasonable to do (even without the classified intelligence Trump has access to).
For example, I like the idea of doing testing in our major transportation hub cities to spot outbreaks of Coronavirus before they become widespread.
I wouldn’t have deprioritized pandemic response by disassembling the team led by a pandemic director sitting on the NSC.
I would have gotten in front of this economic issue weeks earlier knowing that we would need to do a shutdown and that would crush all our small businesses.
If I had access to the info Trump had, I (or anyone else) could have done much better. My opinions were influence solely on public information about what was going on in China to stop the spread in January. Why the fed government waited until mid March to start figuring this stuff out is beyond crazy.
The problem is that Trump discounts information that is not good for him. You know that is true. But sticking your head in the sand is a terrible response to a crisis.
Sorry, not “this” thread but the COVID thread.
She would have blamed it on a "video", then told you to wipe everything with a cloth and it would all go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoonPieBlue
We saw enough of how she handled things, so I feel lucky Trump is handling this now.
When was that time? Were they gonna get the test kits out of thin air? Oh yeah, it was Trump's fault that the test kits were not available IMMEDIATELY. He should have and 400 million test kits on the shelves instead of throwing away those that your hero Obama had in place for such a time as this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Took you awhile to get it, but you are starting to come around.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
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Originally Posted by FriscoDawg
You got nothing for a comeback other than, "Trump is incompetent and should have seen it coming."Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Trump's instincts proved 100% correct on the Chicoms, but he had very, very little in actual intelligence. I like how Goosey faults Trump for supposedly ignoring his expert advisors...too bad he didn't act "on his gut" on this! He was 100% right! He felt the Chicoms were lying their asses off...as did other civilized nations like Australia, New Zealand, and Japan who all expressed concerns back in December. Trump asked the CIA to gather intelligence but as mentioned the Chicoms are good at locking things down. Now, can you imagine the reaction, including Goosey's, if Trump had taken draconian action based soley on his gut!? Hell! Trump received grief from the libs as late as January 31 for his travel ban!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be far better for everyone if the libtards would sit in the corner and suck their thumbs, or whatever they choose to suck, and let the adults run the country.
Like expecting a deaf guy to know he is about to be hit from behind by a truck.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
And, no, don’t interpret that at Trump being disabled. Interpret it as equally a stupid as expecting Trump to know all.