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.........because when Cameron came in the game and through a Jenkins like pass, I actually looked at my wife and said, "Way to go Jenkins!" To which she replied, "That's not even him." Sorry, I didn't know we put him in at the beginning of the 4th and when he threw that pass at our WR's feet, I couldn't see any difference in their passing. I had to leave because my little boy was losing it. Did it get any better after that pass?
Colby did alright. The over-the-shoulder throw to Mitchell was a thing of beauty (granted, 5 yards in the air beauty). I wanted to see us run more with him, but he looks competent.
Jenks didn't do anything today that convinced he can hurl the ball downfield. Seriously, can y'all name ONE pass that was exceptional?
I cannot believe people are comparing the second series EVER for Cameron to the performance of someone with 3 years' playing experience, 4 years in the program, and 14 starts under his belt. And if our #2 struggled a bit in mop up duty in his second series EVER, all the more reason to get him more experience. Because he is just one twisted knee or jammed shoulder away from being the #1 guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
Jenkins should absolutely continue to start. But when you are ahead by 4 possessions, there is no reason you can't start working your backup in.
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Originally Posted by boxerdog
I do agree. There were several passes that were deeper than 15 yards that the receiver either had to stop to make a play, come back to the ball, or it was badly underthrown and uncatchable.
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Originally Posted by techman05
Jenkins played today like he always plays. He did a lot of things well--most notably actually using his legs for the first time this year. He also continued to struggle throwing. He's our starter because he is experienced and he is good at calling audibles.
Brian, my point is, at this point we are getting the same thing out of Cameron as we are Jenkins. There is not time during the middle of a season to teach a player. Cameron would have to get the rust off if we were really going to use him. He would have to be put in big game situations to really see where he is. If we do that, there is just as much chance he will mess up as there is with RJ.
Dude, we had to bring in Taylor Bennett to run the offense for half a year last year because Zac Champion was "our guy" the year before. Just because someone has earned the STARTING spot doesn't mean you never see the #2 guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by techman05
I'm not as concerned at getting Cameron snaps so he can prove that RJ sucks. I am concerned about having more than one person who can run our offense in a real game. I am also concerned that our coaching staff doesn't like to use real games to develop QBs.
With an opponent like NMSU, we should have PLANNED to be working Cameron in early and often. We could afford to have a weak series sprinkled in here and there if Cameron struggled, but in the long run our roster is STRONGER when we have more than 1 QB who can manage our offense in real games. Every other school in the country does this when they get ahead of anemic offenses. Even UF did this a good bit at the beginning of the season. Good thing, too, since they had to rely on their back up when Tebow went down.
On Jenkins' first series in real game action--it was against Boise State, he telegraphed a pass in the flats and it got picked. I didn't think Cameron struggled at all. I just wanna see SOMEBODY who can throw to the ball down-field. We're gonna need that threat--if we want to win on the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian96
That's true and Cameron at least presents the threat.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxerdog
I thought Cameron looked fine. One bad pass, a couple of nice ones. No picks. You can tell he has a some "zip" on his throws.
The thing is, and this is something you will never see in a stat sheet but it is as real as can be, Jenkins can't throw deep. It is plain as day. Several passes today were terribly underthrown. I don't even need to get into the Nevada game again. Now against NMSU, who is terrible by the way, it doesn't matter. While I was watching the game I told my wife that I thought Nichols played us a lot tougher. Back to the point, when we play a real team, they will take away many of the things that were successful for us today and in order for us to get it back we will need to stretch the field vertically. Good coaches realize Ross can't do this. Nevada dared us to stretch the field and we couldn't do it. Now Cameron CAN do this but he more than likely can't execute the regular offense well enough for us to succeed .....YET. The thing is there is more downside to Cameron or Hardin but much more upside as well. It's a catch 22. So I understand why this could be a tough decision for a coach. But until we get a QB who can stretch the field we are going to be average and nothing more. So I am just mentally preparing myself to be average for the rest of this year and next.
a bad team with a decent qb can play against Nevada much better than Tech did with Jenkins. USU qb lighted Neveda up today. USU lost by the score of a FG and please remind me how many points did we lose to NEvada. A loss is a loss but at least USU fans didn't have to feel like doo doo like we did after the Nevada game. Jenkins won't give us a chance/hope to win any game against good opponents. We won't be able to run against Boise, LSU or Fresno like we did against HI or NMSU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
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Originally Posted by latech
Which is why I continue to maintain that working Cameron in BY DESIGN for about 1/3 of our plays will give us a better shot than having RJ for 100% of our plays. Furthermore, the areas where Ross is clearly superior to Cameron are largely those that come with real-game experience. So sticking with the weaker arm because the stronger arm is not as adept at running the offense APPEARS on the surface to be a catch-22, but in reality is a CHOICE our coaching staff is making.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
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Originally Posted by Brian96
Oh I am with you. Every 3rd or 4th drive Cameron or Hardin should get in the game. It is the smart thing to do.