Re: Guess who the last team to get a 10th assistant will be
Can somebody please find the old picture of the recruiting trailer with Richard Simmons and the airboat and the shopping cart?
I can giggle at that for hours. Ok, minutes. But still ...
Re: Guess who the last team to get a 10th assistant will be
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Champ967
Can somebody please find the old picture of the recruiting trailer with Richard Simmons and the airboat and the shopping cart?
I can giggle at that for hours. Ok, minutes. But still ...
Laugh all you want! Mais ouis, dis de year we get dat SEC invite! De Vermillion Giant done woke up from his 107 year slumber, cher!
Ole Miss thinks dey got a tradition wit dat grove. Dey ain't seen nuttin, cher! We got us an Eauxk!
Re: Guess who the last team to get a 10th assistant will be
You talkin bout dat UL-Laugh 'Recruiting Zone' wit outdoor bar & grill, cher!
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/...ewideparty.jpg
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DogsWin
Dey got dem Tiki torches and dem plastic Flamingos, cher. Dat's living rite!
Re: Guess who the last team to get a 10th assistant will be
Now Now, all of you. I was trying to have a constructive conversation with Kent. And look what this turned into.
That being said, FormerPokeCenter, what do think it will be 10 years from now: "Billy Napier RE/Max" or "Billy Napier Century 21"?
Re: Guess who the last team to get a 10th assistant will be
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The Historian
Now Now, all of you. I was trying to have a constructive conversation with Kent. And look what this turned into.
That being said, FormerPokeCenter, what do think it will be 10 years from now: "Billy Napier RE/Max" or "Billy Napier Century 21"?
Oh, Dat's gotta be ReMax, Cher....Dey gots dat Vermillion Color in dat Logo, them!
Re: Guess who the only team without a 10th assistant will be
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The Historian
Kent,
I appreciate your enthusiasm. Understand, I'm not trying to make any type of derogatory remark about the Cajun program. Far from it. I'm simply trying to point out the reason for the spending.
Your program was at rock bottom in December, 2017. In some ways it still is until it can get on the field and win some games. Given that fact and the history of the program from a coach's perspective, you had to overpay for the market.
Fortunately, over the decades Tech has never had to do that. We've been able to attract quality assistants without have to overreach. Within CUSA, Southern Miss is another good example. Over the decades, they've been able to attract assistants without having to overpay. A combination of environment and winning along with the ability to advance in career are all factors.
To give an example in the corporate world look at Wells Fargo. They had a scandal a few years ago and have gone on a hiring spree nationwide looking for auditors, compliance, anti-money laundering people, etc... in an attempt to get their house in order. To do so, they're paying as much as 50% more for those positions than their competitors. Otherwise, they would never attract quality people given what they're just gone through.
Rock bottom? Not sure how you define rock botttom? 5 out of the last 7 years were winning seasons. 4 of them were 9-4 records. In that time frame 4-1 in bowl games. Even last year 5-7 I wouldn't consider any of that "Rock Bottom." Was it where it needs to be considering the size school and resources available? Obciously not as first year AD Brian Maggard decided to make a coaching move and invested more into the program. If you've got the resources you can spend them. RCAF raised 12.4 mil last year for that reason. I wouldn't say we had to over reach at all in paying assistants. We are basically just stepping up to the plate, and competing with the upper echelon of the G5, which is right where we need to be.
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The Historian
To follow-up on my previous post, I'm sure you've had to overpay for the staff you've put together, but a few things are worth pointing out: About your coordinators - Ron Roberts has never coached in the FBS. Rob Sale carried a coordinator's title at McNeese years ago, but it appears he has never been a play caller. Matt Viator called his own plays. Tim Leger is a good guy, but he and your other former ULM assistant didn't produce a winning record at ULM. I thought Juluke was a good coach while at Tech, but his recruiting prowess was clearly overblown.
For having to overpay, your staff isn't quite what I thought it would be. Also, you've thrown out the number "$2 million". I've seen that number used on the RaginPagin, which is always correct. :icon_razz: Can you provide us with a link to that number.
Ron Roberts is a very successful head coach with a defensive back ground. Roberts was the mentor for Dave Aranda. He credits Ron Roberts for much of his defensive knowledge, as he worked under him at Delta State. Rob Sale will continue to not call plays, that will be his good friend Billy Napier. Those 2 completely ran the offense last year at Arizona St, and will continue to do it the same way here. As for over paying coaches not sure how to put a price tag on that? They haven't coached a game yet. If early recruiting is any indicatoion they are worth every penny, as 247 sports has them ranked in the top 3 of all G5 schools, and 54 over all currently, for the 2109 class. If they continue that trend for a few years the success will be soon to follow, in a very big way.
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Fo...eTeamRankings/
Source for coaches pay as requested.
https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/...arn/969064001/
Re: Guess who the last team to get a 10th assistant will be
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Champ967
Can somebody please find the old picture of the recruiting trailer with Richard Simmons and the airboat and the shopping cart?
I can giggle at that for hours. Ok, minutes. But still ...
Is this it?
You are right, I get a huge smile on my face every time I see too. I hope you enjoy watching it from start to finish as much as I did.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rDuRb86nGh8
https://ragincajuns.com/sports/2016/...44.aspx?id=853
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FormerPokeCenter
Lafayette is where coaching careers go to die.
Has a USL head coach ever gone on to anything else?
Augie Tammariello used his .467 winning percentage as a coach to land a gig as a State Farm Agent.
Nelson Stokley took his Clemson OC credentials and a .443 winning percentage as the Couyon's coach to land a retirement gig.
Ricky Bustle won 38 percent of his games as a USL head coach after a solid career as an assistant in other places that won consistently. He's still coaching, but as the OC at a religious school in Georgia. It's easy see why a guy might find Jesus after coaching at USL.
Jerry Baldwin won just 18 percent of his games, but appears to be the ONLY USL coach to ever go on to be a head coach afterwards, even though he's coaching at a HS. He too found Jesus and is involved in the ministry. I'm sensing a trend. I'd probably find Jesus, too, if I were a USL coach.
Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way. Hell, apparently USL is only good when they cheat. Unfortuantely, the couyons can't even do that correctly.
I fear for the coaching careers of Tim Leger and Rob Sale. They're both good guys. I'm not sure they thought this all thte way through. USL may be more coaching Purgatory than coaching Hell, but there appears to be only one road to escape from that place and it involves salvation and coming to Jesus.
If you're going to coach at USL, make sure your insurance license is up to date, and that you're on a first name basis with your pastor. The divine intervention certainly can't hurt.
PURE GOLD!!:laugh:
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Kent
It says: "Also in Napier's contract is $2 million for assistant coaches and staff."
So that number includes S&C staff plus perhaps whatever full-times managers and trainers are assigned to football, maybe even a dedicated SID person who is full-time. Am I reading that correctly? So it's not really $2 million for the coaches. Correct, Kent?
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Kent
Rock bottom? Not sure how you define rock botttom? 5 out of the last 7 years were winning seasons. 4 of them were 9-4 records. In that time frame 4-1 in bowl games. Even last year 5-7 I wouldn't consider any of that "Rock Bottom."
Kent:
FormerPokeCenter posted this yesterday about the Hudspeth era in Lafayette: I'll quote him: Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way.
Also, signing day in December came and went without a single signee.
Again, I admire your enthusiasm. But FPC's statement is a good indicator of how the Cajun program is viewed outside the Acadiana area and even within the Acadiana era by other fanbases, the LSU fanbase in particular. It's not what Ricky Bustle inherited, but it's still pretty low. Rock bottom is a fairly accurate statement. The Cajun program really needs to get on the field and win some games for that to change.
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Kent
Rock bottom? Not sure how you define rock botttom? 5 out of the last 7 years were winning seasons. 4 of them were 9-4 records. In that time frame 4-1 in bowl games. Even last year 5-7 I wouldn't consider any of that "Rock Bottom." Was it where it needs to be considering the size school and resources available? Obciously not as first year AD Brian Maggard decided to make a coaching move and invested more into the program. If you've got the resources you can spend them. RCAF raised 12.4 mil last year for that reason. I wouldn't say we had to over reach at all in paying assistants. We are basically just stepping up to the plate, and competing with the upper echelon of the G5, which is right where we need to be.
Since when does USL have four 9 win seasons?
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but when you CHEAT and the NCAA makes you vacate 22 wins in four years, you don't get to count those games as wins.
They're officially in the record books as...wait for it...LOSSES. Since we're on this topic, what's USL's actual record after the debacle commonly known as the Hudspeth era? I'm gonna guess that you're probably hovering just under .500, as usual.
USL's been mediocre for several generations. It'll be interesting to see if the new guy, with quality staff, can turn that around.
LOL, 9-4...yeah right.
Hell, it took all you guys had to eek out an 8 point win against a subpar, struggling 6-5 McNeese team, despite having a 22 scholarship advantage.
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The Historian
Kent:
FormerPokeCenter posted this yesterday about the Hudspeth era in Lafayette: I'll quote him: Mark Hudspeth rode his .449 Ragin Cajun winning percentage all the way from being Associate Head coach at Mississippi State to irrelevance, obscurity and disgrace. He had a few stops at academic fraud, improper payments and NCAA rules violations along the way.
Also, signing day in December came and went without a single signee.
Again, I admire your enthusiasm. But FPC's statement is a good indicator of how the Cajun program is viewed outside the Acadiana area and even within the Acadiana era by other fanbases, the LSU fanbase in particular. It's not what Ricky Bustle inherited, but it's still pretty low. Rock bottom is a fairly accurate statement. The Cajun program really needs to get on the field and win some games for that to change.
The thing that really speaks volumes about what others around the country think of ULL is the fact that they're still in the Sun Belt Conference. They're still stuck there, while several of their former conference mates (UNT, FAU, MT, WKU, and FIU) were chose over them for membership in CUSA. Despite this fact, the delusional ULL faithful to this day have convinced themselves that now it's only a matter of time before the AAC will be calling to invite them to join that conference. This will happen, of course, only as a precursor to ULL's being invited to join the Big 12 once Texas and Oklahoma leave that conference for the PAC 10. They believe this stuff despite the fact that, once again, one of their major programs (football this time) was just penalized by the NCAA for cheating. Around the country, ULL is known for its reputation as cheaters. It's something that is part of the culture that is Lafayette. A "coon ass" thing, if you will.
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DogsWin
I think Dawg06 was the culprit of these? I think we need to see his entire portfolio of work. There were some good ones of Skip's pic at the DQ Dash - photoshopped him in the background. Probably need a poll of the favorites.
