CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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05-30-2010, 01:46 PM
Tbone1

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

I don't know, but he sure likes to talk about things he's not informed about.
05-30-2010, 06:09 PM
brtransplant

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by qng001

Is he even a USM alumn/fan? Or just a Tech hater?

I bet he's a chickenhawk posing on the USM board.
05-30-2010, 06:22 PM
champion110

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by brtransplant

I bet he's a chickenhawk posing on the USM board.

He has been around for a long time. Don't know what his deal is, but he has hated Tech always and just makes up things.
05-30-2010, 10:28 PM
okiealdawg

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

I like MSU but they really don't belong in the SEC anymore - they don't have the money to be competitive with the big schools
05-30-2010, 10:30 PM
TYLERTECHSAS

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

I figured out why Velton hates Tech so much. He and Donna pay so much money in state taxes, and their social security checks are so small that they can't afford a new weedeater. lo l

What city?
05-30-2010, 11:55 PM
qng001

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

That's his house in Baton Rouge.

Looks like a house around the Tiger Bend and Antioch Rd area.
05-31-2010, 12:21 AM
BulldawgMom

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by okiealdawg

I like MSU but they really don't belong in the SEC anymore - they don't have the money to be competitive with the big schools

OK..... SunBelt? CUSA?

From one underdog to another, I know you have to say that because you are LaTech and I'm MSU, but I know you really don't mean it... :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yov4u...eature=related

As for my previous question....

Where did this come from? I'm having a hard time with these numbers. We get weary of crap thrown out there just because we're in Mississippi. That's too easy. So prove this, please!

Athletics Contributions/Donations 2007-08
$2,064,622 - Louisiana Tech
$1,931,025 - Mississippi State

Athletics Contributions/Donations 2008-09
$2,728,546 - Louisiana Tech
$?,???,??? - Mississippi State
05-31-2010, 09:35 AM
okiealdawg

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

I just don't really think it fair for MSU to have to compeat in conference made up very large state universities with 90-100k stadiums and very deep pockets... A similar arguement could made for Vandy and to a lesser degree Ole Miss. The state of Louisiana would be much better with 2 SEC programs because of the population difference - 4.5 million in LA compared to around 3 million in MS. I it will not happen...

It may also be possible that the SEC breaks up and forms a new super conference with Texas, A&M and Oklahoma taking the spots that the above 3 now occupy... Kentucky moves to the ACC and FSU or Clemson is added - anything is possible and could you imagine the TV contact a conference like that would get???
05-31-2010, 10:55 AM
RealityCheck

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by BulldawgMom

As for my previous question....

Where did this come from? I'm having a hard time with these numbers. We get weary of crap thrown out there just because we're in Mississippi. That's too easy. So prove this, please!

Athletics Contributions/Donations 2007-08
$2,064,622 - Louisiana Tech
$1,931,025 - Mississippi State

Athletics Contributions/Donations 2008-09
$2,728,546 - Louisiana Tech
$?,???,??? - Mississippi State

The 2007-2008 numbers are from the database ESPN compiled from all of the annual NCAA-mandated Agreed Upon Procedures Reports they received by making Freedom of Information requests. Tech's figures from both years are publicly available since the Louisiana Legislative Auditor's office posts the Agreed Upon Procedures reports every year for all Louisiana universities. That is something not done by any Mississippi agency.

I have been using USM Budget Office figures instead of actual amounts. In 2007-2008 35.7% of USM's actual revenues were from student fees and university subsidy, a much closer percentage to Tech's than its budget numbers report.
05-31-2010, 11:51 AM
Tbone1

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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I just don't really think it fair for MSU to have to compeat in conference made up very large state universities with 90-100k stadiums and very deep pockets...

This statement is laughable.
Don't pity MSU for "having to compete".....they are taking those ass-whippings and laughing all the way to the bank.
SEC has 2nd richest Media Deal in college football. They more than 200 Million in TV money every year. So don't shed any tears for MSU.
05-31-2010, 12:15 PM
champion110

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by Tbone1

This statement is laughable.
Don't pity MSU for "having to compete".....they are taking those ass-whippings and laughing all the way to the bank.
SEC has 2nd richest Media Deal in college football. They more than 200 Million in TV money every year. So don't shed any tears for MSU.

I agree........ Plus, MSU has the OPPORTUNITY to play for a NC. We don't. Now, what they do with that is up to them, but they have the chance.
05-31-2010, 12:19 PM
DONW

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by Tbone1

This statement is laughable.
Don't pity MSU for "having to compete".....they are taking those ass-whippings and laughing all the way to the bank.
SEC has 2nd richest Media Deal in college football. They more than 200 Million in TV money every year. So don't shed any tears for MSU.

When you consider the 15-20 million MSU gets from the SEC, their budget is not much bigger than Tech's. MSU has to be the worst job in football when it comes to recruiting. They're only about a 1.5 hour drive from Ole Miss and Alabama and Mississippi has a small population for recruiting. They lose out to USM recruiting in south Mississippi. They don't have any players in the NFL Hall of Fame, so, you don't have one player you think of when you hear Mississippi State mentioned.
05-31-2010, 01:18 PM
hookdown

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

Good detective work there Dawg06. I did a quick search on him and the only thing of note I found was this:

http://www.outragedpatriots.com/ (about 1/5 of the way down, a reprinting from the Advocate)

At least he runs with esteemed company.
05-31-2010, 01:37 PM
BulldawgMom

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by RealityCheck

The 2007-2008 numbers are from the database ESPN compiled from all of the annual NCAA-mandated Agreed Upon Procedures Reports they received by making Freedom of Information requests. Tech's figures from both years are publicly available since the Louisiana Legislative Auditor's office posts the Agreed Upon Procedures reports every year for all Louisiana universities. That is something not done by any Mississippi agency.

I have been using USM Budget Office figures instead of actual amounts. In 2007-2008 35.7% of USM's actual revenues were from student fees and university subsidy, a much closer percentage to Tech's than its budget numbers report.

I'm not interested in USM or its student fees.

You posted earlier LaTech's contributions/donations comparing the amount with that of Mississippi State's contributions/donations.

Using the same chart, I'm also seeing these numbers:

$8,750,189 MSU ticket sales
$ 865,028 LaTech ticket sales

Well, here's our "donations."

Required Bulldog Club contributions for establishing priority to purchase season tickets:

(Based on Availability)
BULLDOG $100 4 Football Season Tickets 2 Basketball Season Tickets

TEAMMATE $600 6 Football Season Tickets 2 Basketball Season Tickets

STATE CLUB $1,600 8 Football Season Tickets 4 Basketball Season Tickets

COACHES CIRCLE $3,000 10 Football Season Tickets 4 Basketball Season Tickets

MAROON/WHITE $5,000 10 Football Season Tickets 6 Basketball Season Tickets

SCHOLARSHIP LEVEL $12,000 & Above 10 Football Season Tickets 8 Basketball Season Tickets

http://www.mstateathletics.com/fls/1...B_OEM_ID=16800
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This is chicken feed to some other universities, but my point was, and continues to be, if you're going to use Mississippi State as some kind of qualifier to make your point, at least be fair about what you're saying. We are well aware at MSU of who we are -- and are not -- and this kind of crap gets old.
05-31-2010, 02:17 PM
HogDawg

Re: CUSA Expansion targets: Temple, Tech, TCU

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Originally Posted by Dawg06

Velton Lionel Knight

Born on August 31, 1934 (maybe 1933 - conflicting records)

Son of William Velton Knight and Selma Odom Knight

Older brother of Jerry Lavell Knight

Originally from Clay Country, Laurel, Mississippi

Graduated from Southern Miss

Married to Donna Mae Falke Knight

Worked as an assistant elementary and 6th grade principal of St. Martin School in Biloxi-Ocean Springs (school was destroyed by Hurricane Katrina)

Lived right by the school at 136 LeMoyne Blvd. Biloxi, Mississippi

Moved to 4832 Five Forks Dr, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, sometime between 1962-1985

In 1994, moved to current residence of 16105 Batavia Ave, Baton Rouge, Louisiana

Attends St. Andrews United Methodist Church in Baton Rouge

Say hello to Velton and his Sunday School class... I think he's the one in the yellow..

Why does he hate Tech so much? I have no idea.

http://www.standrewsumc.net/clientim...andt_class.jpg

Hey Velton- Was this your son? Forrest County=Hattiesburg... 1988... about the time you would have a son in college...

James Velton Knight was charged with selling 108.2 grams (approximately a quarter pound) of marijuana, a Schedule I control substance, to an undercover Forrest County deputy sheriff on or about June 24, 1988. On October 20, 1989, Knight appeared before the Circuit Court of Forrest County with his attorney, Travis Buckley, and entered a plea of guilty to the sale charge. The circuit judge, after carefully and meticulously determining that Knight's plea was knowingly, intelligently and
voluntarily entered and that he was pleading guilty because he was in fact guilty, accepted Knight's plea, adjudicated him guilty of the sale of a controlled substance and proceeded to sentence him to serve a term of three years in the custody of the Mississippi Department of Corrections; however, the court thereupon suspended Knight's incarceration and ordered probation after successful completion of certain other conditions which Knight thereafter successfully completed. On April 22, 1992, a petition for termination of Knight's probation was filed and a discharge order was entered that same day terminating Knight's probation.

So, what you're saying is, "eagereagle" (Velton Knight) is the father of a convicted drug offender? :laugh: Oh, that's just great.

By the way, eagereagle also looks like he's older than dirt. When you are that old, you're supposed to be more respectful of others and become "nicer" with age. Just ask Coach Mick!! :laugh: (Just kidding, coach. You look like a spring chicken compared to this guy!)

Eagereagle (Velton Knight) obviously didn't get the memo. Why would anybody on the CUSA board listen to this clown anyway?

HD

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