President Trump

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

That's your perception based on what your CNN friends said. I asked for specific statements.

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I think we are watching the same pattern of behavior, you just give him a pass because he has so far avoided having his "grab them by the pu$$y" style racist statement captured on tape.

Surely you remember these instances: http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56...b03260bf777e83

So, you think the business leaders were cowards. What about the generals of the branches of the armed services? Why do you think they each found a need to come out and say something explicitly against white supremacy yesterday?

In the Trump bubble, it may smell like roses everyday, but for those of us that don't live in that bubble, it is smelling fouler and fouler.

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

Out of curiosity, do you think it's possible for someone not to be racist yet still able to say or do something racist in nature?

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Or can you be a racist and not realize it? I think so.

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it probably is a duck, and this duck is named Donald.

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Or can you be a racist and not realize it? I think so.

If it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck, it probably is a duck, and this duck is named Donald.

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Please don't confuse me with Trump apologists. I certainly agree with your first statement as I think there are those who have thoroughly convinced themselves they are not racists yet are. I take from you second response that you don't believe that a person can not not be racist, yet be clueless enough to make statements without thinking that could be taken as racist?

Libtards are racist.

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Originally Posted by dawg80

Libtards are racist.

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I could see you and Salty making a Grumpiest Old Men movie-the 3rd installment.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Just curious. You've already covered the reasons you hate him including his illness, but do you think anything he has said regarding VA has been racist? If so what specifically?

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I already know what you think and why you think it.

I asked you for specific statements regarding VA. Tuesday is what has everybody fluffed up right now. That and the lack of what he said in the first statement. What did he say that was racist?

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

I already know what you think and why you think it.

I asked you for specific statements regarding VA. Tuesday is what has everybody fluffed up right now. That and the lack of what he said in the first statement. What did he say that was racist?

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Again, even if he had said a racial equivalent of "grab them by the pu$$y", I am not sure you would acknowledge the racism. Do you acknowledge Trump's sexism.

You have to view Trump (and anyone) in their totality. You have him clearly reading from a script on Monday, and the the days around that he is speaking from off the cuff in a way that is consistent with his history as detailed in the examples of the HuffPo article.

The big deal now - which everyone (including our top military brass and even hosts on FoxNews) except for some racists and heavily entrenched Trump supporters see with clear eyes - is that in arguing against the behavior of White Supremists and those that oppose them, he is creating a false equivalence where there is none. And there is no reason to do so. To focus on their "equal" blameworthiness in this situation suggests that he somehow sees them as equal, and it is seen by the racists as a slightly delayed "eyewink" of his "scripted" Monday condemnation. It empowers that group.

Invoking such a logical fallacy is very revealing to how someone actually feels about a subject.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

Do Guiss and Salty have antifa masks to match their vagina hats?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...t-left/534192/

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Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde

Do Guiss and Salty have antifa masks to match their vagina hats?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...t-left/534192/

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Interesting Antifa grew in the 1920s and 30s in response to Nazism and now a new resurgence with Trump.

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Bailing out because of Paris was political not business. I understand why some of the cowards bailed the last few days. I don't agree, but I understand that it's what cowards do.

Just curious. You've already covered the reasons you hate him including his illness, but do you think anything he has said regarding VA has been racist? If so what specifically?

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Originally Posted by Guisslapp

Again, even if he had said a racial equivalent of "grab them by the pu$$y", I am not sure you would acknowledge the racism. Do you acknowledge Trump's sexism.

You have to view Trump (and anyone) in their totality. You have him clearly reading from a script on Monday, and the the days around that he is speaking from off the cuff in a way that is consistent with his history as detailed in the examples of the HuffPo article.

The big deal now - which everyone (including our top military brass and even hosts on FoxNews) except for some racists and heavily entrenched Trump supporters see with clear eyes - is that in arguing against the behavior of White Supremists and those that oppose them, he is creating a false equivalence where there is none. And there is no reason to do so. To focus on their "equal" blameworthiness in this situation suggests that he somehow sees them as equal, and it is seen by the racists as a slightly delayed "eyewink" of his "scripted" Monday condemnation. It empowers that group.

Invoking such a logical fallacy is very revealing to how someone actually feels about a subject.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

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So it was an inference, not what he actually said.

I figured we'd get to the alt-left mantra eventually. You are ignoring those from the alt-left who confronted peaceful protesters who where there legally. In your and CNN's mind EVERYBODY there protesting lawfully was a Nazi, KKKr, or White Supremicist. As usual, the alt left used violence first. You and the other haters are ignoring some of the facts and injecting untruths.

Bold above: He did not "focus" on equal blameworthiness. He mentioned it. Big difference.

Who were the organizers other than Kessler. I keep hearing about these peaceful protestors and I'm wondering why anyone who wants a peaceful protest would be anywhere near something that Kessler organized.

Make your bed with Nazi's and your bound to catch some feces on you cloak.

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Originally Posted by Dirtydawg

I could see you and Salty making a Grumpiest Old Men movie-the 3rd installment.

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Hey bud, I resemble that remark!

Hey, how 'bout those North Koreans?

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Originally Posted by PawDawg

Hey, how 'bout those North Koreans?

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.the...p-negotiations

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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin

Who were the organizers other than Kessler. I keep hearing about these peaceful protestors and I'm wondering why anyone who wants a peaceful protest would be anywhere near something that Kessler organized.

Make your bed with Nazi's and your bound to catch some feces on you cloak.

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Yep, all those peaceful alt-right protesters who carried shields and clubs.