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Quoting Churchill “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy... it’s only inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” If anyone does not believe the Democrats’ vision is not a move to socialism they are blind, ignorant or both.
Leftist politicians (many RINOs) want control. For the past 50 plus years they have gotten it by giving away free stuff. Socialism is just the new method of distribution disguised as "Progressive". JMO, but other than that idiot horse face AOC and Bernie, not many of them actually believe in or know what Socialism is.Quote:
Originally Posted by frogdog
You maybe giving AOC to much credit. Lol
Also, those who continue to defend the WHO, Paris Accords will not understand all of them are just another way of redistribution of wealth, but those just do it out of this country.
Then don’t complain when China and Russia get their way around the globe and we don’t get what we want.Quote:
Originally Posted by frogdog
Yeah, but Russia and China are not partners in this and will be butting heads with each other. Not to mention, which I actually already did, the world does not want either of those, they want the US to lead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
**and please don't come back with your predictable, lame TDS response**
We piss our influence away like it will never run out. That is irrational arrogance. And you know what happens to the irrationally arrogant.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
What does that mean, "we piss our influence away..."? No, we don't. We have and will continue to make some foreign policy mistakes. So? You act like other nations don't also want a "do over" sometimes. The world looks to the US for leadership, and of course I mean our allies, would-be allies, and the other 200+ countries out there who are basically good and want something great for themselves too. Now, there are a handful of malcontent nations out there who don't like us. But that's okay we, and the rest of the free world, don't like them either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
By reneging on our commitments, by disengaging from international organizations, and generally abandoning the field of global affairs all for pursuing the most narrow-minded version of “America first” that forgets all the benefits we enjoy from American soft power. It is easy to take these things for granted when you are American, but if you were a citizen of another country, you would be jealous of the stature that we have developed from being a highly-engaged leader of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
You have selective reneg syndrome. The other side renegs several times before we finally put our foot down. Your boy Obama and the rest of you leftist would have us footing the bill for everything from a financial standpoint
No one else reneged. And a leader doesn’t abandon his allies.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Not paying what was agreed is a reneg. Demanding payment is not abandoning perceived allies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
We are still the top player in the G20, G8, and other industrialized forums. We pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord .. That was a fraud, and an excuse to send billions of US dollars to another "organization" for minimal benefit to the U.S. yet we paid the lions share. BTW, our greenhouse gas emissions under Trump have surpassed the goals set forth in the Paris Climate Accord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
We also still have major roles in the main UN councils, such as Security Council etc. None of these organizations, UN, NATO, etc. would exist without the financial support of the U.S. We pay by far, the most of any other country when it comes to financing groups like these.
You know this? Where is your link and supporting evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
I was taking about Paris Accord and Iran Agreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg