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Okay Hamilton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
While doing research on past flu epidemics I came across a blog that is hosted by a doctor. One poster on the blog claims that everyone either died, or got and survived, the 1918 Spanish Flu and thus they eradicated that strain of the flu virus. He posted a link to support his contention but I couldn't get the link to work, even by copying/pasting it into the URL. The host, the doctor, commented on it and did say there is some historic evidence that is true. The Spanish Flu outbreak lasted a full 3 years and eventually everyone alive, especially in urban areas and in countries, like the US and in Europe, where travel is common were exposed to it. So, yeah, everyone "caught it" and most people survived and did develop an immunity to it and all of its direct mutations. Over 50 million people died worldwide from the Spanish Flu so that is heck of way to "eradicate" a virus strain.
I also came across an article that says all viruses are placed into one of two types, labled simply as Group 1 and Group 2. And that the year of your birth places you in one of the groups as it affects your vulnerability or immunity. The year of the breaking point is 1968 and was triggered by the Hong Kong Flu pandemic. Born before 1968 places you in Group 1. But, for those in Group 2 there is another breaking point...1977. The Russian Flu pandemic complicated Group 2 persons. So, really in essence, there are three groups: Prior to 1968 birth, between 1968 and 1977, and post 1977 births.
All of this grouping deals with your natural immunity to certain virus types and/or your body's capacity to deal with it. In most cases it's not that you won't get infected and might have some symptoms, but rather how severe your illness will be. In most cases people have a ready-to-go defense in their body and it will activate upon invasion of a viral infection.
I have to add this, in most of my reading up on this, "experts" don't all agree. Since most, if not all, people who have certain "viral traits" have passed away from natural causes, and in some cases, like the 1957 Asian Flu Pandemic, have not been subjected to a scientific study, there are missing pieces to the data set. The gaps are filled in via speculation, based on the best medical/scientific evidence.
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Originally Posted by frogdog
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/u...-response.html
Confirming what I have been telling you guys all along
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By the third week in February, the administration’s top public health experts concluded they should recommend to Mr. Trump a new approach that would include warning the American people of the risks and urging steps like social distancing and staying home from work. But the White House focused instead on messaging and crucial additional weeks went by before their views were reluctantly accepted by the president — time when the virus spread largely unimpeded.
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Originally Posted by Guisslapp
More on the failure of test and isolate strategy and Trump’s disengagement during that period.
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The health and human services secretary, Alex M. Azar II, directly warned Mr. Trump of the possibility of a pandemic during a call on Jan. 30, the second warning he delivered to the president about the virus in two weeks. The president, who was on Air Force One while traveling for appearances in the Midwest, responded that Mr. Azar was being alarmist.
Mr. Azar publicly announced in February that the government was establishing a “surveillance” system in five American cities to measure the spread of the virus and enable experts to project the next hot spots. It was delayed for weeks. The slow start of that plan, on top of the well-documented failures to develop the nation’s testing capacity, left administration officials with almost no insight into how rapidly the virus was spreading. “We were flying the plane with no instruments,” one official said.
Interesting how Trump’s desire to ink the Phase 1 trade deal played into his receptiveness to the warnings in January.
Here is a good synopsis of what was in the NYT this morning:
https://dnyuz.com/2020/04/11/five-ta...-virus-spread/
The House spent over 2 years investigating Benghazi on the premise that Hillary failed to heed warning leading to the death of 4 Americans.
How much investigation should be spent for a President who failed to heed warning resulting in the death of thousands of Americans?
More on the “Red Dawn” email exchange between top health professions in government document their rising concerns and frustration through February of them lack of audience they were having with Trump.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...us/ar-BB12uMDp
No more/no less than on any POTUS in such matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
But ooops! therein lies the trap. We all KNOW President Trump would not be, and has not been, treated like any other POTUS.
No POTUS since Nixon has done so many impeachable things.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Of course...selling missile guidance tech to the Chicoms and machineguns to Mexican drug cartels are both perfectly okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guisslapp
Last night on Jesse Watters' show some fellow was on and said the C-19 outbreak did not begin at some wet market in Wuhan...that is a lie told as a cover-up by the Chicoms...but rather either accidently, or on purpose, was released from one of two Chicoms' biological weapons research labs. He says the Chicoms have "created" over 2,000 strains of viruses in just a decade or so. Most of those will never be an issue for humans, but that the Chicoms keep harvesting viruses from "the bat cave" in some bizarre attempt to create deadly viruses. Alfred needs to kick them out of the Bat Cave and keep them out!
Jesting aside, this is serious (if altogether true). To the point that if true, the rest of the world needs to demand the Chicoms shut these labs down and we confirm all viruses have been completely destroyed and there are no other samples somewhere else. OR! use cruise missiles to take these facilities out! If this is true you can be sure they are doing this to develop biological weapons and the lunatic Chicoms will use them.
BTW anyone see, remember that movie The Satan Bug? A low budget thriller, made in the 1960's, maybe early 70's, about a virus, I guess it was, developed in a lab and stolen by terrorists. There were two versions of it, one was a green color in the glass viles it was the weaker of the two and could only exist for a matter of seconds before it died on its own. But the other version, a red color, had no limit on its natural life expectancy and no limit to as far as it could spread. The movie follows FBI agents trying to track down the terrorists and guess their next move.
Actually, the Satan Bug was a clear liquid, just watched a short snipit of it on Youtube.