Being reported over on the Texags.com board that LT and TAMU will play in Shreveport in the Fall of 2012 and then in College Station in 2013.
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Being reported over on the Texags.com board that LT and TAMU will play in Shreveport in the Fall of 2012 and then in College Station in 2013.
http://texags.com/main/forum.reply.a...291&forum_id=5
Major fail by Bruce and company if true... He just doesn't get it all.
We always seem to prepared for the big press release.
Not BVDV. D.R.'s call.Quote:
Originally Posted by okiealdawg
Straight up 1 for 1? We gettin' paid?
Good Lord, the Aggies would never play in Ruston. We probably wouldn't sell it out even if they did.
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Originally Posted by maddawg
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Mayhoffer
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Originally Posted by okiealdawg
Its not his call.
If this is true then its the worst I've felt about Tech since the Houston loss...and just when the stars were starting to align! We better be getting BIG money for this! And I mean BIG
I'd rather play Lamar in Ruston than TAMU in Shreveport. This is a dumb decision by Reneau. In Shreveport, this will feel more like a neutral site game than a home game. We should have had all the leverage in the negotiations. We should have sold out Aillet stadium.
Reading the sticky above Don't we have 12 games already? Which one gets moved?
Had i waited 06....
But after reading their board its still just speculation...a "buddy of his from la tech" told him he thought we would play them in S'port...so hopefully its just a rumor...
I'm just assuming Lamar would be the game we'd have to move.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabiddawg
You are correct. That guy on Texags doesn't know anything more than we've already speculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Civil Dawg
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Originally Posted by maddawg
I have never known an AD to go to President to find opponents to schedule. Don't know of a President aligning the opponents and then telling AD who we are playing. If AD goes to to President to get OK, that is not President scheduling TAMU, it is the AD.
Playing a$m in Shreveport in 2012 will be the straw that breaks a lot of Tech fans' backs. We'd better hope this doesn't happen.
First off, Who is LTU?
Second, there is one elevator in Wyly Tower dedicated to go to the 16th floor. Wonder why?
This better be a rumor.
A&M's reported open dates are still September 22, October 13, and November 17.
The only dates that Tech should even have a second thought about playing in Shreveport on would be September 1 and November 17 (quarter breaks). And I don't want to be playing in Shreveport those dates either.
If we win, it's a great game. If we lose, bad idea... :D
No it's a bad idea period
We DO NOT need a game in Shreveport. We have done that and it SUCKS to play in Shreveport.....other than a bowl game!!Quote:
Originally Posted by revf
Such BS!!Red for you!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Mayhoffer
A new coaching staff + new schemes + early in the year + an away game + against a team that took TCU to the mat = TRAP GAME!
I would be worried about this game if I was an Aggie. This could be a VERY good opportunity to take out an SEC team before they get their legs and take advantage of a weak schedule for the remainder of the season. Ruston would obviously be ideal, but this game could be HUGE for us come December.
I agree! The ONLY area where we can significantly improve our fanbase by winning over "casual" fans is s'port/bossier. I have a hunch that we CAN and WILL win this game. I like it! Of course, it's only a 10-15 min drive for me. BRING IT!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
So who gets the "lions share?"
Grambling
Please God, no.
This is just a rumor. I like to believe the administration learned our lesson last time we played in Shreveport and that we should stay the heck out of that place. If we're going to play TAMU, its either in Ruston or no deal.
Okay, maybe it's just a silly rumor.
But, in general, as it pertains to hosting so-called "big" opponents, play 'em in Ruston. We hosted Miss State in Ruston. Wasn't close to sell-out, plenty of room for everyone. In 1999 we played aTm in S'port and there were about 15K Aggie fans, in 2003 we played Okla State in S'port and maybe 7K Boys' fans were there.
Play at Aillet. If it sells out, great! Bring in temp seating if someone thinks more seats can be sold.
Period.
NO effing S'port!
First of all, it is a rumor.
Second, West Virginia just pulled out of the game with Florida St for 2012.........let A&M play them.
Third....if true.....good. Buckle your chin straps and play ball. We "want" to have a great season and go to the BCS but we "want" to play cupcakes to get there?????
Now, I agree if this is true, it would have to be in Ruston to make sense.
A little over dramatic...Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsWin
I think it's more than a rumor. And if it's happening, it's crap.
How much are we getting from Illinois or Virginia and would a buyout of one of those be possible? I also guess it doesn't matter what Houston thinks of us either so we could dump them. Is it possible that an A&M game in Shreveport could be a home game for us in Shreveport replacing a money game to give us 7 home games? Maybe A&M would control the money and give us 20K tickets to sell at $40 each ($800K) for the Shreveport game and a cool million for us to come to College Station in 2013.
Email Reneau/BVDV if you don't want it in Shreveport, point out that ULL had A&M in Lafayette this past season. Post you're email (and response) received here, otherwise you words are hollow and meaningless.
I hate all this, "we've done that already it doesn't work" talk. S/B is the fastest way to increase our casual fan base and saying "never play there again" is like me saying because I haven't made my first million I'm going to quit trying!
We all know there were problems last time. The biggest problem being the opponent! If this happens lets force the addinistration to address the problems from last time and assure us things will be different.
I think the years of living under the era of "we can't" has worn off on a few of you.
OK if this is true lets make the best of this. I don't think it is a bad thing to play a game in Shreveport every once in a while to tap into that market. I have said this for years. Sure I would much rather play them in Ruston but that is not going to happen just yet. Hopefully over time it will but for now lets make the best of it and show them we can compete. GO DAWGS!!!!!
Some of us have been telling ya'll this is coming and who is responsible for it....
But you still chose to not believe it -
I agree. If this story is true, this was a GOLDEN opportunity that we screwed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by okiealdawg
HD
Oh I believe it, I just don't want to.
Regardless of if it's good for the program, it just says smalltime to me. Can anyone think of a college that schedules "home games" at neutral locations? Little Rock? You know who I'm talking about.
"WE WILL PROTECT OUR HOUSE...but we don't have the guts to play you there."
As some of us has said - DR is all talk and very little walk...
It was totally his call -
I don't think Bruce or Sonny wanted to change the schedule at all -
I'm OK with it. Since it is unexpected revenue, maybe we can put it all towards Q4E.
Scheduling for success is a moving target. - D.R.
DON'T think so. This check helps offset non-revenue sports losses and gives some cushion to the general fund transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Won
We haven't had A&M at our place since 96. We had K-State and Oklahaoma State in Lafayette over the past 3 years, but not A&M.
I do not want to play in Shreveport at all! However, I do have this errie feeling that Bruce & Dan will have us play aTm there in 2012 to prove to CUSA that Shreveport is part of our market. I would much rather play in Ruston a the Joe becuase no matter how much we play in Shreveport it doesn't feel like home at all.
Lets pack Independence Stadium and make it a "Home Game"!!!!!!!!!
At least be factual. That was in 1996. They've plated 3 times since, and all in College Station.Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
How is playing a (admittedly new) SEC team at a neutral location, making it basically a 0 and 1, supposed to impress CUSA? It would seem to do the opposite.
Being Reported??? The opening post from Texags regarding this:Quote:
Originally Posted by TXDAWG81
"Take it for what it is worth but a buddy of mine from La Tech told me that we are in the process of adding them to our 2012 schedule. He said 2012 in Shreveport and then back at Kyle. No link, just word of mouth and he seems to be in the know at La Tech."
You should retitle the thread to "Rumor: Tech vs TAMU", you make it seems that it's set in stone.
How many current and potential CUSA members can claim they can pull in BCS schools for a home game? TAMU may not have been the cream of the crop of the BIG XII lately, but they are still a "name" school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
I know most here seemed to of hated them, but I loved the Miami, OSU, A&M, etc games in Shreveport. Tech wasn't on par with them at that time, but to me, you measure where you are and where you need to go by playing those type of teams.
Still would be nice to have these games in Ruston though.
I don't mind the game in Shreveport, but they need to clean up that area. It's ghetto.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
Don't miss qoute me. I didn't say it would impress CUSA. If they are running to CUSA and telling them Shreveport is in our market and we play games from time to time there, then it would make sense for them to schedule a game from time to time there. This would be more along the lines of Bruce saying see I told you play in Shreveport and if the stadiom packed out then that would give him more to show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
For the record I am still against playing at Shreveport and I think it will not end well for us if we plan aTm there. I would much rather bring them to Ruston if we have to play them next year.
So our main problem (the fans) is we don't won't to play a game we will probably lose?Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
This is BB&B facts have little bearing on anything, look at this entire thread based off of an Aggie posting 3rd party info on their board....Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
But.......this 3rd party info "SUPPOSEDLY" came from one of our own........It has to be true! More than likely they have just been reading our board to get their information!! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
The fastest way to increase our casual fan base is TO WIN, and I've said it once and I'm going to say it again: we have the best chance at winning, regardless of the opponent, when we play at Aillet Stadium. Playing "marquee" opponents in Shreveport has had NO long-term, meaningful impact on Tech. The reason we've never had a sell-out crowd at home is because we keep doing stupid crap like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAB
Maybe we should make Q4E a fundraising promotion for upgrades to Indy Stadium, since that's where we play our "big" games. Small time...
The revenue is why we are scheduling the game. We need it to fund our athletics due to budget cuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Won
University of Arkansas does it there. Oregon played a home game at Jerry World last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
Quit worrying about what monroe does. Plenty of Big Time programs schedule home games at neutral sites. Small time is scheduling a away game in Shreveport.
NO...we just don't want to play in Shreveport. We want to play them in Ruston or not at all. We ARE NOT afraid we will lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Won
It's not due to budget cuts. Reneau has funded athletics by whoring-out the football team during his entire tenure. It spares him from having to conduct what is supposed to be one of his primary responsibilities - university fund raising.Quote:
Originally Posted by sportdawg
True true. But, like you said, this is BB&B, you were talking about sending a message to a president of a major national university. :icon_wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by GermDawg
"It's not due to budget cuts. Reneau has funded athletics by whoring-out the football team during his entire tenure. It spares him from having to conduct what is supposed to be one of his primary responsibilities - university fund raising."
AGREED!!
That -Quote:
Originally Posted by LookingForResults
And he is a bird in pocket guy, even if the bird is a sparrow...
I do know that Bruce had numerous scenarios to have the game in Ruston through "out of the box" ticket packages for the game which would have gotten us in the ballpark on the monies we could of expected if the game was in Shreveport, but once again the micro manager that resides in the 16th floor chose the easy way out...
An NO ONE can convince me that Sonny thought this was a great idea - trading Lamar in Ruston for A&M in Shreveport/Ruston...
That said - as a "fan" I would much rather have a chance to beat A&M anywhere than Lamar in Ruston
BTW, I too would rather play this game in Ruston.
I would rather play A&M in Shreveport than Lamar in Ruston.
That too!Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Won
By playing A&M in Shreveport instead of Lamar in Ruston, we will most likely lose:
- the student section
- tailgating/gameday experience
- Dawgzilla
- home field advantage
- odds are... the game.
- chance at a BC$ bowl and everything that comes with it
What would we gain:
- the ghetto
- logistical mess
Shreveport is already part of our market, and this will have no bearing on a C-USA/Alliance invitation. Our fate has already been determined.
Shreveport sports fans have proven to be apathetic over and over and over again. We will gain no more casual fans by playing this game in Shreveport instead of Ruston. The majority of the casual fans that would attend this game in Shreveport are the LSU fans so they can chant "S-E-C! S-E-C!"
It's about scheduling for success. You don't trade a game that you are a 50-point favorite at home for another game in which you are "neutral site" underdogs, especially when running the table likely means a BC$ bowl.
You also don't schedule OOC games as a "measuring stick." That's the dumbest reason I've ever heard to schedule a game.
BTW it's not "small time" for us to play in Shreveport. That's been our alternate home for almost a century according to our media guide.
Before somebody else brings it up, this has anything to do with being scared of A&M. It's about being smart. Of course we can beat them, but odds are we don't.
Ok, I understand what you are saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus_KKY
I agree 100%!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Won
And still it's only a rumor at this point guys. The number of my fellow Tech alumni that are Negative Nancy's/Debbie Downer's/Henny Penny's still amaze me. It's truly embarrassing! Granted practically all of us would all rather play this game in Ruston. But if it's in Shreveport then grab a set, buy as many tickets as you can for the game and cheer like you've never cheered before. I do want school to be in session ...I will say that for sure due to student body attendance! We can beat these guys and this is the year to do it! Shreveport used to be, and feel, like a major home game and it can and will be again. Now get your act together and pretend like you've "been there and done that" before because universities do this type of thing every year. And again, it's only a rumor at this point.
Somebody please explain what the parking problem is in Shrevport. There's 10 times the parking there than at JAS.
I meant traffic and logistics.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAB
War Memorial - it's okay, the city has done work to the stadium/area to keep the Hogs there. New pressbox, park, beautification.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAB
Cowboys Stadium - it's a palace
I-Bowl - it's a dump. Shreveport does zero work to the upkeep of the area and stadium.
well said tyler!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by tylertechsas
I understand the "ghetto" complaint. But I bet if schools as big as Arkansas or Oregon signed a long term deal to play in Indy stadium they would have the funds to "clean up" stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by qng001
But come on! This is apples to oranges. We aren't Ark and Shreveport ain't Dallas.
Stop thinking! No thinking or logic allowed until all the whiners have had their chance to fill the board with every doomsday scenario they can imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Then, when this rumor gets either confirmed or killed by facts you can insert facts.
You know full well this "rumor" is fact and only lacks a press release. Our AD has been leaking it for weeks now. Having this thing written up in one of the local rags won't make it any truer than it is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dchi72
I saw neither thinking nor logic in TT's post. It was entirely based on emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by dchi72
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Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
BS!!! Those are numbered facts above as I see it Dawg06Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
If you can't get aTm to come to Ruston when they are desperate for a game, you can't get them to ever come to Ruston. We have our money games for the year, bring them to Ruston or don't play them. Playing in Shreveport is an embarassment. Granted not as big as the Grambling deal but at some point we need host a big game in Ruston and sell JAS out. We have an opportunity here and a lot of people seem ok with wasting it.
They would of come to Ruston...Quote:
Originally Posted by detltu
Our President decided he wanted the chance for a bigger pay-day in Shreveport over Ruston -
For the uptenth time, this one is SOLELY on DR - I don't know how to say it more plainly
How much more do we make by playing in Shreveport?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
They are expecting to net close to $1MM
Louisiana Tech played its first football game in Shreveport in 1916. That tradition needs to continue.
Wrong. That is exactly why there are OOC games. OOC games are a better measure for your team than conference. Other than this past year exception, national titles and other significant games/awards aren't decided against conference mates. If you can't win OOC, you can't win anything worth while. Yeah, conference championships are great, but there is a ceiling there. What good is winning the conference if you can't do anything else?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
If you want to be at the top, you can't stay at the bottom. Right now, Tech is at the bottom and continually shoots itself in the foot in wanting to climb to the top. This deal continues that trend. Tech can't measure itself, though, without games against schools like TAMU. But, Tech already had that with Illinois and Virginia.
Is that just for the game in Shreveport or include payout from TAMU?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
That is what they are expecting/wanting to clear from this game....
What would they expect if it were in Ruston?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
We might could GROSS $700K and net $500K after expenses if we went with conventional methods that are presently in place....Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Won
I THINK we could get within $250K of what we would make in S'port if we went outside the box with some of the mini-ticket packages, hill-side seating, increased concessions, a stand alone BIG GAME sponsor, etal...
But remember who you are dealing with and who is calling the final shot - I think BVDV did his homework on this one, but DR took the bird in pocket (honestly, I'm kinda just thankful he didn't ship us out to College Station with the promise of a return game) atleast Bruce won that battle
My guess is about $400K. (about 2 times what we normally make)Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Won
We do a crappy job milking every dime out of the fans in JAS. Heavy G and the Inforcers WILL get every penny they can! Hell, what they don't get you to spend in the stadium they'll just take at gun point outside the stadium! LOL!
I'm sure the Ruston Chamber of Commerce is glad that they don't have to worry about all of those Aggie fans.
If it happens it is important for Tech because:
- We need additional money to compete at the level you wish to compete,
- The game will be nationally televised,
- We need to develop far greater fan support in Shreveport,
- If we want true respect we must play AQ opponents and play them well,
- and, Finally, if Tech's base fan support will not travel 70 or so miles to Shreveport for a game against an SEC team, we do not deserve to move up the ladder.
This is where I am.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
I'd love to see A&M come to Ruston, but playing them in Shreveport is still our home game and one-for-ones are always good with the "big boys."
I was fairly concerned that we'd end up playing a third money game in College Station. That would have been pretty sorry. This is merely "less than ideal."
Unfortunately money talks...Quote:
Originally Posted by RougeDawg
I'm sure DR would be willing to re-think his stance if the difference could be narrowed -
Isn't the Chambers sponsorship only vauled at $35K?
You are really stretching the context of my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
OOC games are scheduled for wins, money, or exposure but not as a measuring stick.
What date are we talking about for A&M in Shreveport?
But in our case the OOC games are scheduled for -Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Money, money, money and maybe a win...
Unfortunately that is who we are and will remain until our season ticket base is over 10K
If we had a 10K to 15K season ticket base, I doubt that this would be an issue