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Why is Bruce still here?
Why is no one talking about this?
1. Saturday Night ESPN reports that Louisiana Tech has turned down a bowl invite from the IBowl. (doesn't matter if it was fact or not. Perception is everything and the perception of asking for "more time" vs. being told "no" is nill, you turned it down. And THAT is what the country remembers)
2. Monday Night Bruce gets on TV and states he thought there was good will built up with the IBowl because we "turned down the Houston Bowl to go to the Independence Bowl" in 2008. (Is it realy needed that we publicly state we turned down a bowl 4 years ago? I bet that bowl feels good!))
3. Tuesday Bruce releases a statement that basically says the Liberty Bowl lied to us. (We called a regional bowl a liar. WOW!)
So, in a matter of 4 days BVDV has aleinated 3 bowls. Three regional bowls that at some time in the future we will desire some type of interaction with.
Oh, and we all know Bruce doesn't wipe without asking Dan. What makes any of us think DR didn't know we were passing on a bowl game? (or the politicaly correct version of "we asked for more time when a deadline was set"?)
How is Bruce not gone because of this alone? And if it was Dan's fault we waited then Bruce should resign out of principle that he was not allowed to do his job because of Dan.
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It's time to clean house.
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Agree, why he still as AD??? DR also didn't do anything~"~
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Bill Brasky
It's time to clean house.
Right AFTER BVDV selects our new coach.:laugh: Ironic.
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Lame duck AD and lame duck Pres are involved in naming our next football coach..........I do not have a good feeling about this!!!!!!!!
Please hand the coaching search over to the Davisons
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Actually, I believe the candidates list is already well defined and is quite strong.
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The shreveport guys are the most upset cuz it's their hometown bowl. Time to get over it guys.
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FishingBack
The shreveport guys are the most upset cuz it's their hometown bowl. Time to get over it guys.
No lie! I've been saying from the beginning that this was the best outcome but everyone refused to listen. People were blind not to see that Dykes was leaving and that we'd be without a head coach for a bowl game. And now we can finally lay Shreveport to rest and concentrate on our REAL opportunity - DFW; that's where you'll find all the people and all the money.
Shreveport's broke and is a dead man walking. We can 'backfill' Shreveport after we've secured sound footing in DFW.
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LookingForResults
No lie! I've been saying from the beginning that this was the best outcome but everyone refused to listen. People were blind not to see that Dykes was leaving and that we'd be without a head coach for a bowl game. And now we can finally lay Shreveport to rest and concentrate on our REAL opportunity - DFW; that's where you'll find all the people and all the money.Shreveport's broke and is a dead man walking. We can 'backfill' Shreveport after we've secured sound footing in DFW.
If by best possible outcome, you mean Sonny's departure, I agree. Who in their right mind didn't see that Sonny was leaving?Serious question: is it common for universities to count on a market base 4 hours away and in another state? If so, examples?
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I doubt that it's common, but I've done no research. But I live in Dallas, and have carefully observed the dynamics here for many years. Dallas does not have an edcation vacuum, but it does have a vacuum when it comes to a primary university that it supports. Of course Texas and A&M supporters abound, but the "top 10% admissions" limitation turns thousands of students away annually. SMU is supported and populated by established monied families, but has never reached out to the vast suburbia. TCU is more "approachable" than SMU, but tuition is sky high and therefore not a practical consideration for many. Finally, there's North Texas. UNT has traditionally been known as a fine music school, but little more. The reality is better than that, but, despite it's large size, the predominant perception is that it is a fall-back school for students that couldn't get into their university of choice.
With an aggressive and clever marketing campaign, there is NO doubt that Tech could parlay its Tier 1 status into a strong foothold in the metroplex - a metroplex that has a population that approaches that of the whole State of Louisiana!
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LookingForResults
I doubt that it's common, but I've done no research. But I love in Dallas, and have carefully observed the dynamics here for many years. Dallas does not have an edcation vacuum, but it does have a vacuum when it comes to a primary university that it supports. Of course Texas and A&M supporters abound, but the "top 10% admissions" limitation turns thousands of students away annually. SMU is supported and populated by established monied families, but has never reached out to the vast suburbia. TCU is more "approachable" than SMU, but tuition is sky high and therefore not a practical consideration for many. Finally, there's North Texas. UNT has traditionally been known as a fine music school, but little more. The reality is better than that, but, despite it's large size, the predominant perception is that it is a fall-back school for students that couldn't get into their university of choice.
With an aggressive and clever marketing campaign, there is NO doubt that Tech could parlay its Tier 1 status into a strong foothold in the metroplex - a metroplex that has a population that approaches that of the whole State of Louisiana!
Excellent and true.
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LookingForResults
Finally, there's North Texas. UNT has traditionally been known as a fine music school, but little more. The reality is better than that, but, despite it's large size, the predominant perception is that it is a fall-back school for students that couldn't get into their university of choice.
With an aggressive and clever marketing campaign, there is NO doubt that Tech could parlay its Tier 1 status into a strong foothold in the metroplex - a metroplex that has a population that approaches that of the whole State of Louisiana!
Not without a SERIOUS overhaul of the admissions/recruiting department.
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DFW metro area population (approx 6.5 million) actually exceeds the entire state of Louisiana population (approx 4.6 million)
The Tech admission's office recruiters actually spend a lot of time in Texas.
They have a twitter feed which updates where they are. Interesting to see all the places they go
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Bruce screwed up.
He gambled and lost.
I never wanted to go to the IBowl but it is 10 times better than no bowl. 20 years from now there will be a group of disgruntled players & alumni that say they don't support Louisiana Tech because the school screwed the pooch on this bowl opportunity.
You ulm haters are the ones that need to get over it. You screwed over a lot of people with this insane hate of ulm. To most Tech people ulm is irrelevant. Most realize the two schools parted ways too long ago to even remember. And the two have been on different tracks since.
You haters make them relevant!
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JAB
Bruce screwed up.
He gambled and lost.
I never wanted to go to the IBowl but it is 10 times better than no bowl. 20 years from now there will be a group of disgruntled players & alumni that say they don't support Louisiana Tech because the school screwed the pooch on this bowl opportunity.
You ulm haters are the ones that need to get over it. You screwed over a lot of people with this insane hate of ulm. To most Tech people ulm is irrelevant. Most realize the two schools parted ways too long ago to even remember. And the two have been on different tracks since.
You haters make them relevant!
Get out of Bossier for a while. Come to Dallas and catch a Cowboys game or something. You'll get a fresh perspective. This bowl thing is not even a BLIP on the radar screen. The few in Dallas that are even aware think the bowl system is messed-up. Tech, if people are even aware of the school, have a generally favorable impression and that will remain unchanged.
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LookingForResults
Get out of Bossier for a while. Come to Dallas and catch a Cowboys game or something. You'll get a fresh perspective. This bowl thing is not even a BLIP on the radar screen. The few in Dallas that are even aware think the bowl system is messed-up. Tech, if people are even aware of the school, have a generally favorable impression and that will remain unchanged.
Absolutely true.
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I like the idea of tapping into the fertile territory of DFW. However, the disparaging of S'port/Bossier is unnecessary and off-putting.
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I don't care how well defined and strong our coaching candidates pool is. I hope that BVDV is not involved in any more coaching searches or in any schedule negotiations without someone competently overseeing him.
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LookingForResults
Get out of Bossier for a while. Come to Dallas and catch a Cowboys game or something. You'll get a fresh perspective. This bowl thing is not even a BLIP on the radar screen. The few in Dallas that are even aware think the bowl system is messed-up. Tech, if people are even aware of the school, have a generally favorable impression and that will remain unchanged.
Yeah, no one is even trying to pursue the Dallas market. (eye rolls) That's a wonderful idea!
Tell ya what, Ruston is a place we need to abandon. There's not even enough people in the town to fill the stadium! We need to forget that place and spend every dime we have on Dallas! Heck maybe we should start playing games over there too?
You are delusional! I even heard Fletcher making fun of you on the radio!
And I gotta ask. When is a bowl game worth it? I mean how many of the other bowls should we not waste our time with?
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boxerdog
I like the idea of tapping into the fertile territory of DFW. However, the disparaging of S'port/Bossier is unnecessary and off-putting.
Don't worry, if Tech was to develop a stronghold in DFW, the stupid Shreveport wannabees would fall right in line. Funny, but if we were to become a household name in DFW, it would make us a household name team in Shreveport. They have no vision. They called the Cowboys their team, until the Saints finally started winning - now it is probably still 50/50. Shreveport has no ability to see what they could have and nothing we have done has changed that. Ironically, what LFR is saying, would probably make more inroads in Shreveport than we ever have.
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JAB
Yeah, no one is even trying to pursue the Dallas market. (eye rolls) That's a wonderful idea!
Tell ya what, Ruston is a place we need to abandon. There's not even enough people in the town to fill the stadium! We need to forget that place and spend every dime we have on Dallas! Heck maybe we should start playing games over there too?
You are delusional! I even heard Fletcher making fun of you on the radio!
And I gotta ask. When is a bowl game worth it? I mean how many of the other bowls should we not waste our time with?
I'm worried about you. You are a fat guy like me. We need to remain calm and not stroke out. Maybe you should get away for a long weekend.
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JAB
Yeah, no one is even trying to pursue the Dallas market. (eye rolls) That's a wonderful idea!
Tell ya what, Ruston is a place we need to abandon. There's not even enough people in the town to fill the stadium! We need to forget that place and spend every dime we have on Dallas! Heck maybe we should start playing games over there too?
You are delusional! I even heard Fletcher making fun of you on the radio!
And I gotta ask. When is a bowl game worth it? I mean how many of the other bowls should we not waste our time with?
I'll tell you what, just sit there in the shadow of the casinos and stew in it, because you're sure not going to DO anything about it are you?!!
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boxerdog
I like the idea of tapping into the fertile territory of DFW. However, the disparaging of S'port/Bossier is unnecessary and off-putting.
My parents were born in Shreveport, I was born in Shreveport, I graduated from high school there, was married in Shreveport and most of my relatives live there. If I want to disparage Shreveport in regard to its attitude toward LaTech and its anti-progressive approach to business and marketing, I dang sure will and I dang sure will know what I'm talking about.
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LookingForResults
My parents were born in Shreveport and I was born in Shreveport, graduated from high school there, was married in Shreveport and most of my relatives live there. If I want to disparage Shreveport in regard to its attitude toward LaTech and its anti-progressive approach to business and marketing, I dang sure will and I dang sure will know what I'm talking about.
Heck, I live in north Bossier and this area is every bit as nice as the neighborhoods in DFW. You need to come visit. Anyway, there are alot of fans over here who want what's best for LaTech. Slamming the entire region b/c of a few incompetents in S'port is unnecessary.
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boxerdog
Heck, I live in north Bossier and this area is every bit as nice as the neighborhoods in DFW. You need to come visit. Anyway, there are alot of fans over here who want what's best for LaTech. Slamming the entire region b/c of a few incompetents in S'port is unnecessary.
I'm not trying to compare Dallas and Shreveport/Bossier. I love the beautiful neighborhoods. Dallas suburbia is mainly flat pastureland. I'm talking about the ATTITUDE in the area. The same attitude that prevents sports franchises from succeeding there is the same attitude that chokes the life out of new initiatives and new ideas.
The old, established money in Shreveport, except Norton, has never been interested in reinvesting in Shreveport. They have always preferred to just sit at the country club; and they see no role for any Louisiana university except LSU. That's what I'm disparaging.
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LookingForResults
I'm not trying to compare Dallas and Shreveport/Bossier. I love the beautiful neighborhoods. Dallas suburbia is mainly flat pastureland. I'm talking about the ATTITUDE in the area. The same attitude that prevents sports franchises from succeeding there is the same attitude that chokes the life out of new initiatives and new ideas.
The old, established money in Shreveport, except Norton, has never been interested in reinvesting in Shreveport. They have always preferred to just sit at the country club; and they see no role for any Louisiana university except LSU. That's what I'm disparaging.
I'm with you on that, brother. However, there is some new energy generating around here! The rallying of support for LaTech moving into S'port was real. Don't give up on us yet....
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Guys, I think we need to back off and take a deep breath. There are lots of changes coming, and with those changes lots of opportunities to do things better.
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If this fiasco isn't the final straw, I may never understand Tech.
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Gooddawg
If this fiasco isn't the final straw, I may never understand Tech.
If you're calling seeking a bowl that would not have us playing a team that tied for third in the Belch in Shreveport the final straw, then you're right, you may never understand Tech.
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This thread has taken a strange turn...Bruce should be fired for alienating 3 bowls. But it is ok for us as fans to abandon entire cities in our hopes for developing a fan base?!?
For me, I'll take any and all who want to cheer for Louisiana Tech.
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boxerdog
Heck, I live in north Bossier and this area is every bit as nice as the neighborhoods in DFW. You need to come visit. Anyway, there are alot of fans over here who want what's best for LaTech. Slamming the entire region b/c of a few incompetents in S'port is unnecessary.
The people that you are referencing need to stand up and be heard NOW! I am ashamed to say it, but I have an uncle that played for Tech (Rudolf Smith, drafted by the 49ers - but chose to pursue other things). He was Superintendant of Bossier Parish Schools for years. He roots for lsu, then Tech. It makes no sense. So, all of you that are in the Shreveport/Bossier area and DO believe that Tech could be N. Louisiana's flagship school, stand up and be heard! Who appoints the I-Bowl Committee? Why is there not pressure from Shreveport to change that committee? Does Advocare or Shreveport appoint those positions?
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RGTech98
This thread has taken a strange turn...Bruce should be fired for alienating 3 bowls. But it is ok for us as fans to abandon entire cities in our hopes for developing a fan base?!?
For me, I'll take any and all who want to cheer for Louisiana Tech.
Don't be a silly generalist. Tech has pursued and wooed Shreveport for 40 years and if anything has lost ground in the area during that time. Dallas is already an important recruiting area for Tech, has a larger population than the entire State of Louisiana, has tens of thousands of good students that do not qualify for Texas and A&M due to statewide admissions restrictions, does not have a primary public university in the metroplex, and has a huge business base from which new donors can be mined.
Compare that to Shreveport. It's all a matter of priorities. Shreveport should be in the second order.
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Well we don't have to compare Ratchet city and Big . I will say that I've been underwhelmed with the response we've gotten in the past few years. The LSUS debacle was shameful.
We do have passionate fans and alumni there but the return on our effort has been disappointing to me.
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Bigdog13
Excellent and true.
I would say "excellent and yet to be seen." I would love to hear of an example of a university reaching out to a metroplex 4 hours away and in another state and that their model having worked. Not that we have to use another's mold, but it sounds like a gamble (let's not even discuss how our recent gamble paid off). There are several Dallas area schools that Dallas does not support and I imagine at least some of LFR's reasons for that are true. Just sounds odd--but, that does not mean it wouldn't work.
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LookingForResults
Don't be a silly generalist. Tech has pursued and wooed Shreveport for 40 years and if anything has lost ground in the area during that time. Dallas is already an important recruiting area for Tech, has a larger population than the entire State of Louisiana, has tens of thousands of good students that do not qualify for Texas and A&M due to statewide admissions restrictions, does not have a primary public university in the metroplex, and has a huge business base from which new donors can be mined.
Compare that to Shreveport. It's all a matter of priorities. Shreveport should be in the second order.
Maybe we just have not been great at pursuing and wooing.
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maverick
I would say "excellent and yet to be seen." I would love to hear of an example of a university reaching out to a metroplex 4 hours away and in another state and that their model having worked. Not that we have to use another's mold, but it sounds like a gamble (let's not even discuss how our recent gamble paid off). There are several Dallas area schools that Dallas does not support and I imagine at least some of LFR's reasons for that are true. Just sounds odd--but, that does not mean it wouldn't work.
It's no gamble; it just requries effort; something we often lack. Arkansas is offering in-state tuition to those falling below the Texas/A&M cutoff; I don't know about LSU , but I know they have been the beneficiary of 'Texas/A&M refugees', particularly from the Houston area, but also some from Dallas.
There's no reason we couldn't likewise benefit.
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Are you people nuts??? fire your AD in middle of this crap. We need Bruce to do the one thing he does well-- use his contacts to get a new coach. Love his Basketball and Football selection. Get the new coach-- we can,t wait for new AD selection and time wasted. We need new coach NOW-- keep as many kids from abandoning us and try to keep committments. Adress concerns after we get out of this crisis!! Be absolutely the worst move--just more negative news to pile on-- who would even consider committing to Tech as player or coach.
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JAB
Why is no one talking about this?
1. Saturday Night ESPN reports that Louisiana Tech has turned down a bowl invite from the IBowl. (doesn't matter if it was fact or not. Perception is everything and the perception of asking for "more time" vs. being told "no" is nill, you turned it down. And THAT is what the country remembers)
2. Monday Night Bruce gets on TV and states he thought there was good will built up with the IBowl because we "turned down the Houston Bowl to go to the Independence Bowl" in 2008. (Is it realy needed that we publicly state we turned down a bowl 4 years ago? I bet that bowl feels good!))
3. Tuesday Bruce releases a statement that basically says the Liberty Bowl lied to us. (We called a regional bowl a liar. WOW!)
So, in a matter of 4 days BVDV has aleinated 3 bowls. Three regional bowls that at some time in the future we will desire some type of interaction with.
Oh, and we all know Bruce doesn't wipe without asking Dan. What makes any of us think DR didn't know we were passing on a bowl game? (or the politicaly correct version of "we asked for more time when a deadline was set"?)
How is Bruce not gone because of this alone? And if it was Dan's fault we waited then Bruce should resign out of principle that he was not allowed to do his job because of Dan.
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LookingForResults
I doubt that it's common, but I've done no research. But I live in Dallas, and have carefully observed the dynamics here for many years. Dallas does not have an edcation vacuum, but it does have a vacuum when it comes to a primary university that it supports. Of course Texas and A&M supporters abound, but the "top 10% admissions" limitation turns thousands of students away annually. SMU is supported and populated by established monied families, but has never reached out to the vast suburbia. TCU is more "approachable" than SMU, but tuition is sky high and therefore not a practical consideration for many. Finally, there's North Texas. UNT has traditionally been known as a fine music school, but little more. The reality is better than that, but, despite it's large size, the predominant perception is that it is a fall-back school for students that couldn't get into their university of choice.
With an aggressive and clever marketing campaign, there is NO doubt that Tech could parlay its Tier 1 status into a strong foothold in the metroplex - a metroplex that has a population that approaches that of the whole State of Louisiana!
Excellent post. The University of Oklahoma and the University of Arkansas have been pulling great students out of the metroplex ever since the "Top10" rule was enacted. They even offer "in state" tuition incentives to the better high school graduates (3.0 GPA or better?). The DFW Metroplex offers LA Tech a huge opportunity. There's certainly room for LA Tech over here.
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You are on a roll == some of your best posts ever have been lately-- we have been on opposite sides a few times but you have been perfect on this whole crisis--
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LookingForResults
Get out of Bossier for a while. Come to Dallas and catch a Cowboys game or something. You'll get a fresh perspective. This bowl thing is not even a BLIP on the radar screen. The few in Dallas that are even aware think the bowl system is messed-up. Tech, if people are even aware of the school, have a generally favorable impression and that will remain unchanged.
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LookingForResults
I doubt that it's common, but I've done no research. But I live in Dallas, and have carefully observed the dynamics here for many years. Dallas does not have an edcation vacuum, but it does have a vacuum when it comes to a primary university that it supports. Of course Texas and A&M supporters abound, but the "top 10% admissions" limitation turns thousands of students away annually. SMU is supported and populated by established monied families, but has never reached out to the vast suburbia. TCU is more "approachable" than SMU, but tuition is sky high and therefore not a practical consideration for many. Finally, there's North Texas. UNT has traditionally been known as a fine music school, but little more. The reality is better than that, but, despite it's large size, the predominant perception is that it is a fall-back school for students that couldn't get into their university of choice.
With an aggressive and clever marketing campaign, there is NO doubt that Tech could parlay its Tier 1 status into a strong foothold in the metroplex - a metroplex that has a population that approaches that of the whole State of Louisiana!
I love the way you think LFR! What we have traditionally lacked is VISION. A vision doesn't necessarily have to come to fruition, it's results are gained through the effort trying to achieve the vision, AND, this is a vision worth pursuing. Though you have said some things about Dr. Guice that I don't think are accurate (isuppose because you don't really know him) I think you would find him amenable to your hypothesis. I have spoken with him on many occasions and he has personally traveled to Slidell to meet with me and other City of Slidell officials to help us in some endeavors which are beneficial to both us and Louisiana Tech. He "gets it".
Nuke
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It's no gamble; it just requries effort; something we often lack. Arkansas is offering in-state tuition to those falling below the Texas/A&M cutoff; I don't know about LSU , but I know they have been the beneficiary of 'Texas/A&M refugees', particularly from the Houston area, but also some from Dallas.
There's no reason we couldn't likewise benefit.
I've been saying this for the last 10 years on BB&B. Thanks for posting. The "Top 10" rule in Texas has really opened up some opportunities for nearby out of state colleges and uinversities. LA Tech is in a great position to benefit from this.....but we've got to get our act together on the marketing front.
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LookingForResults
No lie! I've been saying from the beginning that this was the best outcome but everyone refused to listen. People were blind not to see that Dykes was leaving and that we'd be without a head coach for a bowl game. And now we can finally lay Shreveport to rest and concentrate on our REAL opportunity - DFW; that's where you'll find all the people and all the money.
Shreveport's broke and is a dead man walking. We can 'backfill' Shreveport after we've secured sound footing in DFW.
I love it!!!
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HogDawg
I've been saying this for the last 10 years on BB&B. Thanks for posting. The "Top 10" rule in Texas has really opened up some opportunities for nearby out of state colleges and uinversities. LA Tech is in a great position to benefit from this.....but we've got to get our act together on the marketing front.
In fact, the top 10% is getting tighter :
- Class rank to be automatically admitted: Top 10%
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- Class rank to be automatically admitted: Top 8%
- Notification to Texas educators: September 2009
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- Class rank to be automatically admitted: Top 9%
- Notification to Texas educators: September 2010
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- Class rank to be automatically admitted: Top 8%
- Notification to Texas educators: September 2011
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- Class rank to be automatically admitted: Top 7%
- Notification to Texas educators: September 2012
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- Class rank to be automatically admitted: To be determined
- Notification to Texas educators: September 2013
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LFR,
First, will you answer my question about your opinion of bowls?
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LookingForResults
I'll tell you what, just sit there in the shadow of the casinos and stew in it, because you're sure not going to DO anything about it are you?!!
Like start an alumni group that aggresively goes after alumni and friends to get them activated? Check
Like approach local businesses to help sponsor? Check
Talk to (and get) national businesses about the opportunity to support and fund LaTech and how it would benefit their business? Check
Like organize and run huge events that take months to prepare for and demands me to take vaction time from my paying job? Check
Don't you tell me I don't do anything! I work my ass off for Louisiana Tech! What the hell do you do?
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champion110
The people that you are referencing need to stand up and be heard NOW! I am ashamed to say it, but I have an uncle that played for Tech (Rudolf Smith, drafted by the 49ers - but chose to pursue other things). He was Superintendant of Bossier Parish Schools for years. He roots for lsu, then Tech. It makes no sense. So, all of you that are in the Shreveport/Bossier area and DO believe that Tech could be N. Louisiana's flagship school, stand up and be heard! Who appoints the I-Bowl Committee? Why is there not pressure from Shreveport to change that committee? Does Advocare or Shreveport appoint those positions?
Pay your $200 and get on the committee! You want more Tech influence in the bowl....join the freeken bowl!
People can't sit back and say "why don't they..." they need to be there saying "why don't we....!"
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LookingForResults
It's no gamble; it just requries effort; something we often lack. Arkansas is offering in-state tuition to those falling below the Texas/A&M cutoff; I don't know about LSU , but I know they have been the beneficiary of 'Texas/A&M refugees', particularly from the Houston area, but also some from Dallas.
There's no reason we couldn't likewise benefit.
Seems there are two different things being talked about here.
No one says we should not target new students from the DFW area. But that we should NOT ignore the 12,000 alumni in S/B and the 300K others that live there.
But if Arkansas is already doing that now, and you say no one has been successfull at owning that market, why do you think LaTech could beat out everyone else over there and own it?
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HogDawg
Excellent post. The University of Oklahoma and the University of Arkansas have been pulling great students out of the metroplex ever since the "Top10" rule was enacted. They even offer "in state" tuition incentives to the better high school graduates (3.0 GPA or better?). The DFW Metroplex offers LA Tech a huge opportunity. There's certainly room for LA Tech over here.
I like the idea of using some resources to target Dallas. Especially for recruting bright students. But we still need the bright kids from Louisiana.
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JAB
Pay your $200 and get on the committee! You want more Tech influence in the bowl....join the freeken bowl!
People can't sit back and say "why don't they..." they need to be there saying "why don't we....!"
Why the anger? I asked a question of how people are appointed? If it takes $200 for someone from Texas to be on the IBowl Committee, I am all in!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I send it? I have a feeling it is more complicated than that and am saying that Shreveport people need to demand another committee! I am not in Shreveport and have never lived there. Hell, if I can send in $200 and get on, though, TELL ME WHERE!!!!!!!!
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champion110
Why the anger? I asked a question of how people are appointed? If it takes $200 for someone from Texas to be on the IBowl Committee, I am all in!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I send it? I have a feeling it is more complicated than that and am saying that Shreveport people need to demand another committee! I am not in Shreveport and have never lived there. Hell, if I can send in $200 and get on, though, TELL ME WHERE!!!!!!!!
I'm not angry. Just stating that WE are the ones that make the change. Not THEM!
I'll send you the application when I get it!
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Wow! alot of dumping of Shreveport from a town that could not even put 15k in the stands w\o people from Shreveport and Monroe if the fine people of Ruston think they can support a University with the closed minded attitude then have at it If I piss you off don't care b\c it's true that's why until Ruston Citzens get over themselves L.S.U. will still be the State University and La. Tech will just be another school on I-20
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Wow! alot of dumping of Shreveport from a town that could not even put 15k in the stands w\o people from Shreveport and Monroe if the fine people of Ruston think they can support a University with the closed minded attitude then have at it If I piss you off don't care b\c it's true that's why until Ruston Citzens get over themselves L.S.U. will still be the State University and La. Tech will just be another school on I-20
So complain about the dumping on Shreveport (mainly be people in Texas) by dumping on Ruston.
Please don't side with me!
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DISNEYDOG
Wow! alot of dumping of Shreveport from a town that could not even put 15k in the stands w\o people from Shreveport and Monroe if the fine people of Ruston think they can support a University with the closed minded attitude then have at it If I piss you off don't care b\c it's true that's why until Ruston Citzens get over themselves L.S.U. will still be the State University and La. Tech will just be another school on I-20
Ruston is a small college town. Shreveport is a city that has a backyard with a great university. Shreveport has used Tech when needed, but supports a school that is 5 hours away, instead, when it is crunch time. If Shreveport had any vision at all, Louisiana Tech would be there and not LSUS. Don't get me started on the media or the IBowl again. It is pure lack of an identity. They care more about lsu than they do of what COULD be their's. They have always done this.
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Don't be a silly generalist. Tech has pursued and wooed Shreveport for 40 years and if anything has lost ground in the area during that time. Dallas is already an important recruiting area for Tech, has a larger population than the entire State of Louisiana, has tens of thousands of good students that do not qualify for Texas and A&M due to statewide admissions restrictions, does not have a primary public university in the metroplex, and has a huge business base from which new donors can be mined.
Compare that to Shreveport. It's all a matter of priorities. Shreveport should be in the second order.
Tech should definitely heavily recruit students from within a 5-6 hour radius including New Orleans, DFW, Houston, Little Rock. But Monroe, SBC, Alexandria and even Jackson also fit within this footprint very well. IMO we shouldn't alienate or publicly state that the smaller markets should be relegated to 2nd tier status in our efforts. Prospective students/athletes would never want to be considered 2nd rate if they choose to come to Tech.
I also appreciate what you have written since I posted that "silly" generalist statement. Sometimes over generalism gets some people to step back and see the forest and not concentrate so much on the trees.
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If you're calling seeking a bowl that would not have us playing a team that tied for third in the Belch in Shreveport the final straw, then you're right, you may never understand Tech.
Without any names attached ... WAC #3 vs. Belt#3 in Shreveport sounds, on its surface, like a pretty reasonable bowl matchup. It's the kind of game I would keep on in the background while I did other things around the house. Occasionally checking the score, and maybe watching the last quarter if it were still close.
That's just me as a CFB fan, if I had no personal interest in either team. And that's why the nat'l sportsmedia -- who do not share our money-boosters' stated disdain for Shreveport or northeast -- wonder what the heck were we thinking.
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If you're calling seeking a bowl that would not have us playing a team that tied for third in the Belch in Shreveport the final straw, then you're right, you may never understand Tech.
I am calling losing out on $500,000 ($300k from buyout and another $200k from bowl payout) the final straw. Apparently mistakes that cost Tech $$$ are a common theme with BVD.
Having a 9-3 team with one of the hottest names in college football as HC (now former) and the #1 offense in nation and not go to a bowl game when there are 50 bowls should be an afterthought if that's possible. Not to mention all that goes along with it-fan experience, game experience, merchandise sales, ticket sales, continued relationship with customers from Tech, value of sponsorships. This goes much deeper than "just" not playing ulm in a bowl game. I would think you would know that.
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Wow! alot of dumping of Shreveport from a town that could not even put 15k in the stands w\o people from Shreveport and Monroe if the fine people of Ruston think they can support a University with the closed minded attitude then have at it If I piss you off don't care b\c it's true that's why until Ruston Citzens get over themselves L.S.U. will still be the State University and La. Tech will just be another school on I-20
How does this asshole DISNEYDOG have so much Green with only 2 posts, especially after showing his LSU ASS?
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Champ967
Without any names attached ... WAC #3 vs. Belt#3 in Shreveport sounds, on its surface, like a pretty reasonable bowl matchup. It's the kind of game I would keep on in the background while I did other things around the house. Occasionally checking the score, and maybe watching the last quarter if it were still close.
That's just me as a CFB fan, if I had no personal interest in either team. And that's why the nat'l sportsmedia -- who do not share our money-boosters' stated disdain for Shreveport or northeast -- wonder what the heck were we thinking.
You'd be one of the very few tuning in. You want to guess the the ratings of Ohio/ULM? Hint: It'll be a joke. Nat'l media only notice this game in passing and the majority are sympathetic to a 9-3 sitting home. Boosters had no input in how events unfolded. They're just sanguine regarding the outcome, glad Dykes has made the escape he so doggedly pursued, and are hopeful that DG will be a dynamo fund raiser. After all, winning follows money and money follows a winner. It's a beautiful circle if you can ever squeeze inside!
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Why the anger? I asked a question of how people are appointed? If it takes $200 for someone from Texas to be on the IBowl Committee, I am all in!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I send it? I have a feeling it is more complicated than that and am saying that Shreveport people need to demand another committee! I am not in Shreveport and have never lived there. Hell, if I can send in $200 and get on, though, TELL ME WHERE!!!!!!!!
Why would you want to join them-I want them to fold.
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Cal&Ken
Why would you want to join them-I want them to fold.
Can't disagree more. I want that game to succeed, being from Shreveport and all. That being said, Shreveport has always been a town where certain people like to feel a bit more important than they are and as a result will stick it to those that they can. We gave them the opening to feel important and they took advantage of it....rather simple.
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He's lost and he can't find his way out of town! Maybe we should get him one of those button things to wear around his neck, then his villagers could come for him...eh, they'd probably leave his here because they don't want him back!
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Elwagonne
Can't disagree more. I want that game to succeed, being from Shreveport and all. That being said, Shreveport has always been a town where certain people like to feel a bit more important than they are and as a result will stick it to those that they can. We gave them the opening to feel important and they took advantage of it....rather simple.
It backfired on them. No ratings and a laughable match-up........
As for wanting it to fold vs. success, it all depends on Shreveport. If it can't be run correctly, it needs to fold. I think this might be the nail, though. No one wants to go there, except a belt team going to their first bowl. I am not upset that we are not going. I am upset that they did not have the desency to wait a few more hours for our answer. That was ridiculous, when they had a team they could grab the next day - a much lesser team that they got anyway. And, take your pick on which one I am referencing. Same difference.....
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Elwagonne
Can't disagree more. I want that game to succeed, being from Shreveport and all. That being said, Shreveport has always been a town where certain people like to feel a bit more important than they are and as a result will stick it to those that they can. We gave them the opening to feel important and they took advantage of it....rather simple.
Oh yes, it is simple. But, they are a loser bowl and this is not the first rodeo with TECH. I wouldn't even begin to go to a game with TECH in it ever again. They need to go away- and this matchup will help that.
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HogDawg
How does this asshole DISNEYDOG have so much Green with only 2 posts, especially after showing his LSU ASS?
The Sport/Bossier people are greening her up.
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Besides one of the board's own, this is a guy who should at least get an interview if we're looking for a new AD in the near future.
http://www.uwaathletics.com/staff.aspx?staff=1
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Great choice. Does he have the national contacts we would need to lobby for a BCS conference?
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Cool Hand Clyde
Great choice. Does he have the national contacts we would need to lobby for a BCS conference?
Yes. Although you might not like how he got them...
http://www.campbell.edu/news/item/st...ncaa-committee
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And this is from his bio on the West Alabama site:
Williamson has served on numerous NCAA and Atlantic Sun Conference committees including the NCAA Division I Legislative Council and the NCAA Division I Football Championship Subdivision Governance Committee and as Chair of the NCAA Committee on Women's Athletics...
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Will we ever hear anything about this? Should we start a strong email campaign, haha?
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You are correct--I was told LAST FRIDAY how it would come down-- I bowl "pissed off" committee by not wanting to play northest -- they are ticked pink that we got our cummupance -- I went to first 10 i-bowls and supported them ever since-- til things change on committee --I will be hardpressed to su[pport them again
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Elwagonne
Can't disagree more. I want that game to succeed, being from Shreveport and all. That being said, Shreveport has always been a town where certain people like to feel a bit more important than they are and as a result will stick it to those that they can. We gave them the opening to feel important and they took advantage of it....rather simple.
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Cal&Ken
Why would you want to join them-I want them to fold.
Bowl tie ins sure seem to be significant. CUSA will be losing bowls...maybe we can bring I BOWL with us after each apologize and smooth feathers. We need a conference with more than 3 bowl tie ins.
Getting back to the thread...BVDV unfortunately needs to go. LG needs to hire his people...people with VISION that will complete a project and reach out to more LATECH grads who are VERY successful in business.
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HogDawg
How does this asshole DISNEYDOG have so much Green with only 2 posts, especially after showing his LSU ASS?
We fixed that!!
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HogDawg
How does this asshole DISNEYDOG have so much Green with only 2 posts, especially after showing his LSU ASS?
Hog....
I agree with your classification of him, but on my screen he has all red dots.
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West Alabama. Are you kidding me, that's D-2. :bigcry:
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He raised more money at Nicholls State than BVDV has raised here!
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He raised more money at Nicholls State than BVDV has raised here!
Where did he raise it from? Nichols State ain't got a pot to piss in. They're the dregs of the Southland conference. He must have kept all that mioney with him when he left town.
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Cool Hand Clyde
The Sport/Bossier people are greening her up.
NOT ME!
I red dotted DISNEYDOG and it didn't even nudge the green down.
I think there is a board issues.
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HogDawg
I've been saying this for the last 10 years on BB&B. Thanks for posting. The "Top 10" rule in Texas has really opened up some opportunities for nearby out of state colleges and uinversities. LA Tech is in a great position to benefit from this.....but we've got to get our act together on the marketing front.
It is all about developing INTEREST in LA TECH sports and LA TECH being able to get needed SUPPORT and MONEY!!!! I just don't see enough INTEREST, SUPPORT, and MONEY coming from Shreveport.
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NOT ME!
I red dotted DISNEYDOG and it didn't even nudge the green down.
I think there is a board issues.
Probably got a ton of green for sending 40 Indy Bowl tickets back.
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Cool Hand Clyde
The Sport/Bossier people are greening her up.
Well, I just red dotted her! At this point...I don't want to hear anything about LSUseless! :furious3:
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Bill Pup60
Hog....
I agree with your classification of him, but on my screen he has all red dots.
Yep, he does now!
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He has gravitas!
I think he's ready now.
HD
