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New Post Free Agency draft has the Super Bowl champs taking Patton to replace Boldin since Boldin was lost to Free Agency.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1575720-2013-nfl-mock-draft-updated-7-round-predicitons-after-free-agency-rush/page/33
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1573601-2013-nfl-draft-scouting-report-louisiana-tech-wide-receiver-quinton-patton#page/1
Cool! Hope it happens.
I have seen that Clemson guy at the Texans pick a couple of times now in mock drafts and cannot for the life of me figure why they would pick him over Patton???? With Andre Johnson at one WR and Owen Daniel as our TE, we need a strong #2 WR who is not afraid to go over the middle! Especially now that we have not re-signed Kevin Walters! Patton would be the MAN! I think the Texans have him high on their list or 610 Sports would not be mentioning him so many times over the last few weeks.
Nice pick up by the Texans getting Ed Reed. That spells: S-u-p-e-r B-o-w-l When the Saints signed veteran Darren Sharper he played a HUGE, I mean HUGE role in our 2009 SB win.
As for QP a 1st Round selection means HUGE mega-buck$ !
Wonder if he will give some back to Tech. Had an interesting conversation with someone inside the football program about pro players giving back. Apparently Tech loses interest as soon as their eligibility is up, at least that was this person's view.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I always find it interesting that fans (of any school, really) ask that question of their young athletes. It just proves that once you get a big paycheck everybody comes after your money like bloodsuckers.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
When these young athletes sign big contracts, you often hear stories about friends and relatives coming out of the woodwork to get "their" piece of the action.
I'd like to think that these young athletes will give back to LA Tech financially for the rest of their lives, and from the goodness of their heart, not just because they signed a big jackpot contract right out of college. I would encourage these young athletes to stabilize themselves first financially. Let's not forget, professional sports careers can often be very short. With many of these guys, that money needs to last a long time. Just ask Ryan Moats.
Very true. Watch the 30 for 30 episode that shows the number of athletes that are bankrupt within a few years of being in and out of the pros. That is especially true for the NFL where contacts aren't guaranteed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
To the Vikings in Round #1.
25. Minnesota Vikings (From Seattle)—Quinton Patton (WR, Louisiana Tech)
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1364995948
Bob Levey/Getty Images
The Vikings picked up Greg Jennings this offseason, but they still have a serious lack of offensive talent as they try to figure out if quarterback Christian Ponder is "the guy."
Patton is one of my favorite receivers in the draft. He has great hands, body control, vertical ability and moves after the catch. He'll be a great No. 2 option across from Jennings, and he will give Ponder all of the weapons he needs, effectively taking away any possible excuses
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...agency/page/26
I thought so until I heard some folks discussing the potential amount Mingo would get as a first rounder. The new deal between the NFLPA and the NFL has changed things for the rookies. 1st rounders will likely get a 5 year deal at around $480K/yr in 2013. Signing bonuses will vary depending on where they are selected, but I heard Mingo was expecting under $3Mil.. Not nearly what I figured he'd get.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Who is Mingo's agent?Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
He got a local attorney (ambulance chaser) by default. I hope it works out for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
As you mentioned earlier, with the new collective bargaining agreement that has a rookie wage scale his agent won't be able to screw it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
He could if the agent is allowed to direct the investments and isn't somewhat conservative.Quote:
Originally Posted by deadawg
The future rookies didn't get a say in the new agreement.:icon_wink:
Amen. I have worked with several NFL players who recieved 8 figure contracts and the way money disappears is incredible. Agents are , by nature , agressive and the last person who should handle a clients money. My capacity was helping set up trusts and estate planning ( working with cpas, attorneys and reputable financial advisors. ) Agents ,as everyone know, get a percentage PLUS expensese--thats where they rack up. If they get involved with handling the money, pet projects get financed with high commissions. Most are broke by age 30, if they last that long. I wish I could give specific examples but obvious privacy issues prevent that--Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
TAXES-agents-dual residency- wives -fast lifestyle and ignoring reputable advisors instead of using "fast money" advisors , usually lead to early financial disaster. The ones who stay close to their roots do fine ( think Jake D )Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
Guerrero? That surprises me.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
As I remember it, the NFPLA governed what % agents could take and it was generally only on amounts above the minimum, amounts that were guaranteed or earned. Is it still that way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogsince65
http://m.jsonline.com/sports/nfl-dra...201718781.html
Nice read from Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Awesome article. QP is QP! He could play on my team any day of the week...especially on Sundays.Quote:
Originally Posted by turbodawg
Not a surprise, but Patton was not one of the 23 players invited to attend the draft.
That's a great sign!!
WhyQuote:
Originally Posted by KSDAWG
I heard there was a #1 pick at QB a few years ago that can't even afford to buy cough syrup now. He's even thinking about making a comeback if he can find a sucker to give him another multi-million contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dogsince65
A couple of the WRs expected to go ahead of Patton may be in a bit of trouble:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...bin&hpt=hp_bn8
http://espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/sto...ne-sources-say
I misread what he said. Thought he did get an invite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
The one thing I'm thankful for as more mock drafts roll out is that actual NFL recruiters analyze talent and not where you played.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/m...-eagles-042213
The draft has Mills and QP in the 3rd round and Myles White in the 7th.
The reason they are called MOCK drafts is that you get to mock how wrong they are compared to the real thing.
I still think Patton was the best WR on the list.
http://nfl.si.com/2013/04/26/best-av...ts-second-day/
The 8th best player left after the 1st rd per SI
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...estAvailable/1
Plenty of WRs have already been drafted. QP will go today, but the shine is off of his value. He's not very fast and he dropped too many passes. We all know about his intangibles: heart, attitude, etc... and he's 2nd to none in those areas. But the NFL is also about RAW physical ability. As someone else posted, QP is back to square one and he has to earn a spot on a roster. I'm betting that he will, and that 4-5 yrs from now the NFL gurus, the talking heads in suits on all those silly shows, will be saying how The General "came out of nowhere and is a big surprise" out of the 2013 draft. Keep your head up QP! It'll all work out for ya.
Dropped too many passes???Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
QP is my second favorite Tech player of all time!! Tim will always be first because he is the reason I chose to go to Tech. That being said, I think QP will have a long career in the NFL and should have been drafted in the 2 round!! I'm rooting for you today QP!!!
Dan Hope @Dan_Hope
At this point, I would have to guess there's a medical or other hidden concern with Quinton Patton. Really thought he could go in Round 1.
Dang!! QP deserves so much better!
Quinton Patton picked by the San Francisco 49ers with the 128th pick! I waited for him to be picked since the 2nd round.
Yeah that came out of left field. He has great hands. Many of the scouts/experts on ESPN said he had good hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Oh and let me tell everyone something right now. Patton is fast. He has NFL speed. Does he have elite NFL speed? No. But he is faster than the average NFL WR. His 40 time in Indy and at Pro-Day proved that. People still don't get that the majority of players in the NFL at WR/DB DON'T run sub 4.5/40's.
What were Patton's times? I am a little perplexed he went past the 3rd round. What do you think happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
Without looking it up I think he ran a 4.53 n Indy and ran even faster at Pro Day. He's plenty fast. Hell Wes Welker runs a 4.65 and he holds several receiving records.Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
His bench press was unimpressive even for a WR but I've seen him beat press coverage. The CB from Illinois that he absolutely TORCHED got picked before him.
Yes. If you're not blazing fast, have a great vertical leap, and other raw physical attributes you have to have great hands. That's why guys like Welker and Lance Moore, etc make it in the NFL. Mike Mayock, who I don't really care for, likes to hear himself talk, summed up QP's drop in the draft from the projected 2nd to 4th round, and 16th WR selected, with three points: 1) 40 time 2) hands 3) upper body strength. I'm not saying I agree with the NFL scouts' assessment, just stating why QP was a 4th rounder. Now, IM not-so-humble O! I think QP will make all those NFL idiots wish they had taken him over some of those drafted ahead of him. One guy had something like 80 career receptions, but by gosh! he has a helluva vertical leap! That was the main reason given to support his selection. :icon_roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
If I remember right, he ran 4.47 ATW and 4.43 WTW at Tech's pro day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
Swope from A&M had one of the top 40's and maybe THE top bench press with a good vertical and he went after Patton.
These NFL guys don't know what they want. ...Very random. The smallest thing could drop you several rounds.
Swope had concussion issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
I think Swope will make a very good NFL WR. Provided he's healthy, of course.
Besides our game how many did he have?Quote:
Originally Posted by glm47
Probably three more (four have been reported by sports reports). Swope has mentioned publicly that he has had a "few" minor head injuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
I never read anywhere about concerns of Patton dropping too many passes. The critique I heard was that he didn't "snatch" the ball out of the air quick enough and thus was vulnerable to have passes batted away by defenders. I do think that's a legitimate critique. The General was great at creating separation. I think that's one of his subtle strengths. But there were some tough catches that he didn't make because defenders were able to make plays on the ball. It's a nit-pick, and not one that should have dropped him to the fourth round. I firmly believe Quinton will be playing much longer in the NFL than the majorty of the receivers picked ahead of him!
But they do in High School! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
I agree. He's faster than I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I know. Amazing how a guy goes from a 4.3 in HS to a 4.5 in college to a 4.67 at the NFL scouting combine. College Football sure does slow a fella down. Either that or the HS times are LIES.Quote:
Originally Posted by longdawgview
I recorded both the ESPN and NFL Network broadcasts and rewatched them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigdog13
Mel Kiper cited his 8 reps on the bench press at the combine as a possible red flag that dropped him, but Kiper didn't see it as a red flag. Kiper said he plays much stronger and catches almost every 50/50 ball.
Mike Mayock referenced our season opener against Houston in which QP was shut down by the UH corner as something that could have dropped him.
Those were the only two negatives that were brought up on draft day on ESPN and NFL Network. Nobody said anything about him having poor hands.
Todd McShay had nothing but praise for the General and that he was the only sure-fire second round pick that was still left on the board. The networks talked about how he played big in big games and his ridiculous production in the two years at LaTech. They talked about how he tore up Texas A&M and the Utah State CB that was picked before him. They all talked about how great the 49ers did in finding great value with each pick.
Never said he had "poor" hands. Never said dropping passes was a major issue. Never said it would prevent him from being drafted and going on to have a great NFL career. Did say, in an attempt to explain why he dropped from a projected 1st or 2nd rounder to a 4th rounder, that that issue, along with the upper body strength, and the 40 time was probably the reason 15 other WRs, some with NO WHERE close to his collegiate stats, were drafted ahead of him. And, BTW, I picked that up from two separate blogs, one right after the combine, the other right before the draft began.
So, again, saying someone has "good" but not "great" hands is NOT the same as saying he has "poor" hands. Never said that. And the dropped passes comment came in reference to the Utah State game and the combine, where again, it was mentioned as a "concern" on the blogs. As for the Utah State game, as with all the others, I have no particular memory of individual plays, except I seem to recall some "catchable" balls that QP let get away. Now, some may say he dropped those passes, and others might say they were tough chances and he simply couldn't hold 'em.
Wasn't going to go there, but just as a point of reference, I have visited some of the Niner fan chatrooms/blogs and notice an array of opinions about their drafting QP. Some think it is a great pick-up, some are lukewarm, and some cite another player, perhaps in another position, the Niners should have used that 4th round pick on. Opinions: everyone has 'em. Likewise among NFL scouts. It's not an exact science.
I'm still laughing at this comment. Found this little stat sheet for ya. Just let it marinate while you realize how ignorant of a comment that was.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-conte...ton-Patton.png
Again, ignorant one! And I don't know why I waste my time with some of you.
This time, a little s-l-o-w-e-r. . . .
The NFL looks for physical specimens, guys with raw speed and athleticism, like vertical leaps, for instance. They are called "projects." You can't coach speed and other natural ability. The NFL coaches think they can teach the necessary skills to a player who might lack some "football skills" provided that player is blazing fast, etc... Now....if a player LACKS those natural athletic attributes, i.e. like QP, then that player better be top notch, the very best in football skills, if.....<drum roll> he is to be drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft!!! Based on QP's performance in some games, like the USU game which was cited, and at the combine, based on blog comments, he showed a chink in the armor in the category of GREAT HANDS.
So, in an attempt to offer some rationale why QP, PROJECTED TO BE A 1ST ROUNDER IN ALL THOSE MOCK DRAFTS, dropped all the way down to the 4th round and was ONLY the 16th WR selected, I offered some information to perhaps explain why that happened. I also posted that I DID NOT AGREE with that assessment.
I'm not laughing at you. I feel sorry for you, since simple thought and comprehension seems to escape you. Let that marinate as you ponder how ignorant you are...
I DO realize it's not your opinion as you didn't write the blog. That said, whatever blog you read was written by a moron. I actually watched the combine and he had good hands there. Looked great. I just watched a video on the NFL's own website that said that one of his pluses was how he showed what good hands he had at the combine.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80