Sorry if this is a repost, but I did not see it mentioned. I read earlier that Tech has SCState as the home opener for the cost of $325k.
I knew we'd play an FCS. I was just hoping for an interesting OOC game at the Joe.
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Sorry if this is a repost, but I did not see it mentioned. I read earlier that Tech has SCState as the home opener for the cost of $325k.
I knew we'd play an FCS. I was just hoping for an interesting OOC game at the Joe.
SC State, a HBCU school. Going to interesting if they bring their mascot. Folks would think we have two Champs on the field
Look-a-like!
https://colleges.niche.com/images/st...227/?v=10c066c
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http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/b...ch-850x560.jpg
That seems expensive.
Im just happy its a team we usually don't play. I always like to see random, different teams (part of the reason I enjoyed the NIT in basketball, Iona and CMU were different and cool to play).
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Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I got tired of my offseason threads about the need for our own custom mascot. Now we are playing a team with the same mascot. Fun times.Quote:
Originally Posted by qng001
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Here is the story link on the game matchup: http://www.thenewsstar.com/story/spo...ener/79129250/
I think we played them in NCAA playoffs back in the day.
Who remembers the 1984 clash of the mascots: our Champ vs SC State's bulldog?
Same mascot and similar colors. Their colors: garnet red and blue.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockdog
http://www.scsu.edu/images/DSC_0035.jpg
Not gonna say it :)
Has anyone ever mentioned that we need a custom mascot outfit for Champ?
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I agree but I don't think I've heard this story before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech77
It's been mentioned many times on BBB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech77
We paid Southern $350K last year. Not sure how much we netted.Quote:
Originally Posted by rockdog
We paid NSU $150K in 2014. We probably did okay on that one not counting the fire works cost.
$325K for a scrimmage to open 2016 and our only OOC home game.
Fail by our AD.
A new article has been posted on www.latechsports.com:
Louisiana Tech officials announced Friday the 2016 football non-conference schedule has been completed with the addition of a home game to round out the four-game non-league slate.
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Well, there is that game in an NFL stadium to be excited about.
And, you know, if we ever wanted to get UMASS in Ruston (did we?) then we obviously needed to play there whenever it was good for them.
Also got a 2 for 1 with Baylor with the first game being in Waco. THAT took some doing. Wonder how much Baylor will have to pay to buy out game 2.
This game will be a financial loss but the previous week matchup against Arkansas will more than cover it leaving a healthy overall gain. Need to look at the overall picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
Overall picture is that we only have 5 home games and one of them is against an overpaid MEAC team. He nor you can justify this horrible business deal with a money game in Arkansas he did not get for us. To make it worse we are going to Boston for a home and home road game. HORRIBLE deal!Quote:
Originally Posted by Exes&Ohs
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They have similar colors, so we may need to make it a REDOUT game!??
So I'm not the only one having a hard time getting excited about this year's home slate?
To be fair, one could argue that it's counterbalanced by the 7 home games (currently) scheduled for the following year.
But September 2017 sure seems looooong way off.
I see what you did here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
Why not play a local FCS team that will actually bring a crowd instead of one in South Carolina!? Fail!
Looks like we were in a bind for available teams and had to accept SC State's terms. Is there any way to find out what our options were?
Yeah very bad scheduling.
Let's just say it, TMac sucks at negotiations.
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Originally Posted by maddawg
Our AD probably got confused and thought he was getting NC State, but instead got SC State. LOL
Children today have a poor grasp of geography.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriscoDog
Ah...it was 1982
Why in the world are we paying South Carolina State $325K to come to Ruston? I could understand it if they were bringing a huge crowd to JAS like Southern did, but that's not going to happen. These guys are nobody. I'm not excited about this game AT ALL!Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
Massive FAIL by our AD.
Are we for sure??Quote:
Originally Posted by HogDawg
The contract was signed in July of last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story...ener/79154030/
That can't be right. I'm sure some people on here will tell us this SC State game was the evil work of Bruce Van De Velde. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by DogsWin
One of the admins gofers has already posted on this site confirming the embarrassing amount our AD agreed to. He justified it by saying we were getting enough money from the Arkansas game the week prior (a BVDV deal) to offset the bad deal made by our currentl AD.
Can't make this crap up.
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This game will be a financial loss but the previous week matchup against Arkansas will more than cover it leaving a healthy overall gain. Need to look at the overall picture.
A ADM golfer or ADM gopher??Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
Keep making excuses for our AD. He is not earning his money.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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I wasn't. What did you mean by "one of the ADMIN gofers"? I have tons of typos all the time so I of all folks would understand. Help me out here.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
Admin = administration
Gofer =
go·fer
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nouninformal
noun: gofer; plural noun: gofers; noun: gopher; plural noun: gophers
- a person who runs errands, especially on a movie set or in an office.
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Ok thanks! So as in a college student or a paid intern/GA type?Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
Employee of the LaTech Athletic department who is one of the designated readers/posters for the athletic administration. Go read their post history.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
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Thanks. Just read it. Why would this person state "fan of another school"? That's not exactly a "cover" if many on here know he works within the department. Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
It's not meant to be a cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Many of the employees in the Athletic Dept are young guns for hire ... mercenaries seeking to advance their careers in collegiate athletics. They maintain allegiance to their own alma mater, and will be on their way as soon as the next offer comes.
(With some notable exceptions, of course.)
I had wondered if Exes was a shill for the Department.
It doesn't bother me that s/he is. But why not just say you're the ADs spokesperson?
The argument that because we're making so much going to Arkansas that we can afford to blow it on a crappy deal the next week is laughable.
I don'e care who we play the week after Arkansas. If we get blown out the attendance will be horrible. Probably worse because it's an FCS school no one has heard of.
This game doesn't make sense. If we are going to play a HBCU, might as well pick a team from the SWAC (UAPB, Alcorn, Mississippi Valley, etc). At least they'll bring their band.
Sure. As long as we're paying for it, why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by qng001
I know that and know many of them. I was basically having some fun with my good friend MD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
shouldn't the goal be make a nice profit off the Arkansas game and make a profit/break even off the OOC game as well? Just thinking out loud here. If this is how TMac runs a business then maybe we can see if any of that 2008 Fed bailout money is still around too.
He basically has no respect for our common business sense, if they are willing to say we know we took it in the @ss on this deal, but it's ok because another guy set a money game up a few years ago.
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Originally Posted by qng001
He should just keep southland/swac in rotation.
This isn't rocket science.
True if we aren't going to try and get a local AAC team or MAC team.Quote:
Originally Posted by revf
The overall picture is that this is a terrible deal for Tech. SC State is not worth that amt of money. Maybe half that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Exes&Ohs
"Thats not who we are."Quote:
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Wait--we let women on this site??? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
That sounds racist to me. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by stodgdog
JK
What does it cost to get a belt team to sign a one and done? If we're paying that much we should be able to secure better opponents. If SLC teams are less than 200K, why would we look anywhere else?
Well, somebody actually has some sense!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnylightnin
I still can't fathom why the AD chose a HBCU not from the regional SWAC, but the EAST COAST! Give the guy a map!
TMac, listen to me. I will not drive 350 miles to watch a game against some two bit FCS team that I have never heard of. I might watch it on TV but with our lousy contracts I doubt that it will be available. If we didn't even play that game we would be a couple of hundred thousand richer and that's assuming someone will attend. You're going to have to sell about 10,000 tickets just to pay these nobodies and then you have to sell more to cover the cost of actually putting on the game.
Sure ... so long as they have huge breasts.Quote:
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I think Maverick is a woman. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Champ967
You don't say ...Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
Just when we thought it couldn't get worse than BVDV!!!!
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Originally Posted by LeggoDawgs
FIRE BVD!!!!..........oh wait..............
I'm not buying that this game cost us "$325K for a scrimmage to open 2016 and our only OOC home game".Quote:
Originally Posted by DawgFaninHous
BVDV scheduled Arkansas to be played in Little Rock.Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
McClelland moved the game from Little Rock to Fayetteville without explanation.
The front end of McClelland's Baylor deal in 2020 is a guarantee for only $500K... Anybody want to guess what the going rate for FBS guarantees will be in 2020?Quote:
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What's your spin?Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
I'll just have to see the number from a reliable source vs. word of mouth from a "gopher".Quote:
Originally Posted by maddawg
As far as the game? Everyone likes to see the new QB, RB, offense and new defensive players and schemes at the beginning of the year. And everyone looks forward to the first tailgate, seeing friends and a victory! It will be an exciting day and we will be just fine attendance wise unless we have another year of gameday downpour threats.
But I still wish we were playing somebody in our region.
The link from a Times newspaper article was provided with the number.Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
What the administration is not saying is telling.
Even Isabella tweeted something to the effect.
They are waiting to the last minute to schedule these games. That's why you are left with a HBCU from a different geographic location at a premium price.
Wonder how many of their fans will come ??
Is DG still on his honeymoon and isolated from these decisions reflecting on him actually "getting it"?
19,000 - 20,000+ as it's our first tailgate and game to see our Dawgs in action. Our guys will be licking their chops wanting to run the score up proving their worth to the coaches and fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by nadB
I can't wait! Like you guys, I just wish it was a more regional team.
Their fans, TYLER, :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by TYLERTECHSAS
This is all Reneau's fault. Of course Guice "gets it."Quote:
Originally Posted by JuBru
So Sean and I went back and forth a little about this on Twitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by revf
And the explanation he gave makes some sense.
The A&M to Texas Tech move was made relatively late in the scheduling timeframe. And it involved a change in weekends. So when we moved that game, it changed the date that we needed our FCS game and at that point there weren't many better options left. I do wonder though, why we didn't already have an FCS game lined up at that point (for the other weekend)? It's possible that we did, or had some informal agreement that we then broke. Or I guess if we knew the A&M game might be moved, we could have been holding out of scheduling one for that reason.
Next season's schedule is still really odd to me. I get the A&M to Texas Tech change. That's a wash (or better).
I don't love playing UA in Fayetteville instead of Little Rock, but I'd be surprised if that possibility wasn't written into the contract the whole time (whether it should have been or not, I guess probably depends on how bad we wanted that game - I bet they always reserve the right to pick the location up to a certain date for their $ games). Even back when they played 3 a year down there, it was always announced with the schedule which ones would be in Little Rock.
Moving MSU still bugs me. I love what it means for 2017, but combined with playing @ UMASS first means you gave away everything you had at home (save this crappy FCS game, which you knew at the point of moving MSU and UMASS was going to be crappy because all that shuffling happened late). I do think it's telling that our moving MSU and scheduling UMASS happened at the same time that MSU and UMASS announced their series. There must have been some agreement behind the scenes from everyone, but I just can't figure out why Tech or MSU would care so much about playing UMASS that they be willing to move at all, much less agree to travel first. How is it better for MSU to play @UMASS in 2016 and @Tech in 2017 than just playing Tech in 2016 (and @UMASS in 2017 or never)?
I mean, it's a silver lining sure, and you sell what you have to sell, but playing in a big, empty NFL stadium is something you tack on after you justify the series, it's not a reason to schedule someone. You could say, "we get to play former WAC rival and current AAC member SMU in nearby Arlington where lots of our fans live and most could travel easily and where we recruit hard and we also get to play in a big NFL stadium" or "we get to play in-state team and current AAC member Tulane who we owe a whipping to in a huge recruiting area where many of our fans live or could travel and we also get to play in a big NFL stadium." But not "we're playing a bad team (on the field) with little support (off the field) that we have no history with or interest in and that is located far away and we're postponing a home SEC game to get this and oh, the only advantage we can think of besides the return home game in a couple of years is that it'll be in a big, largely empty NFL stadium."
If MSU really wanted it (for some reason?) and it was do this or they just buy out of our Ruston game, then I get that. And I wouldn't expect that kind of thing to be public.
I get that there is more to all of this than we'll ever know.
And that 2017 will be a great OOC schedule. I just can't look at next season's schedule without scratching my head. If @Texas Tech, @Arkansas, FCS, MSU was really viewed as too hard(!), then the option there is to look around for a G5 team who can start a home and home in Ruston in 2016. And the late date on this can't be a factor, because we knew we were playing 2 road games and MSU at home for a long time.
Sounds like there were few options and they had all the negotiating power because we had to have an FCS game?
And because we didn't book it earlier?Quote:
Originally Posted by T1
Which is what I don't get. Back when we had A&M, UA, and MSU weren't we going to play an FCS at home? Why didn't we sew that up? Because we thought we'd change the dates/opponents?
In your first post, it sounds like the date of the Texas Tech game replaced the date we had an FCS scheduled, so we had to find another FCS game for a different date. SC State must have been the only FCS team with that date open.Quote:
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I'm not sure that's the case.Quote:
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It was 1982...Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I didn't read the whole thread, just skimmed it. So, I apologize if someone got the answer.
Their mascot, a bulldog, was a guy in a bulldog head, kinda like Champ's, but! he wore a WHITE TUX. Yes, a white tux. Well, the playoff games of '82 were in December....and it was chilly....and it rained. And rained. And then rained some more. Aillet had a natural mud field, er a natural grass field (mostly). So, when our Champ and their mascot got into a "mascot fight," well it was inevitable that the white-tuxed SC State mascot went splash in a mud puddle.
I was like...Oh, crap! Then I thought, oh, that had to have been planned....surely. But, evidenced by the irate behavior of the SC State folks, whoever was in charge of the cheer squads and the mascot, well, they didn't appear none too happy about it.
The Dawgs won the game 38-3.
That is the December it rained (somewhere) in Louisiana all but 3 days. Matt Dunnigan mud-balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
Shortly after New Years Day 1983, I remember central Louisiana (along Little River) just about washed away.