UL-Laf players charged with criminal conspiracy to commit felony theft.
http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/n...eft/100915218/
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UL-Laf players charged with criminal conspiracy to commit felony theft.
http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/n...eft/100915218/
Another of their football players was charged with rape a few weeks ago. So glad we don't share a conference with these fools and hopefully never will.
glass houses.....
....every college football program is one bad incident away from the negative national spotlight.
If you don't want to read the article then feel free to simply skip it. But if 13 LA Tech, or Rice, or UNT,... players get arrested for conspiracy to commit felony theft feel free to post a link.
:icon_roll:
you missed the point entirely -
The UL athletics department and head football coach Mark Hudspeth announced that the 13 players were suspended indefinitely Tuesday "for a violation of team rules," according to a release from the school sports information department.
Really? They have "team rules" against committing felony crimes? :icon_roll:
And....is this REALLY "news?" Seems like par for the course for that bunch.
They need to extend Hud's contract.
Don't know if this many first and second teamers have been arrested at the same time for ANY team. And, this is based on the Bowl Game Depth Chart. Will analyze the spring depth chart later.
http://www.ragincajuns.com/sports/20...owl-guide.aspx
TE Matt Barnes 6-3 233 Soph -- second string on bowl depth chart
LG Robert Hunt 6-5 328 R-Soph -- Started USM Bowl game
DB/LB Joe Dillon 6-3 215 R-Soph -- Started USM Bowl game
DE Jarvis Jeffries 6-3 245 Sr -- Started USM Bowl game
SS Denarius Howard 6-0 195 Sr -- Second string on Bowl depth chart
SAM/LB Damar'ren Mitchell 5-11 185 Soph -- Started USM Bowl game
CB Simeon Thomas 6-3 194 Sr -- second string on bowl depth chart
SAM/LB Levarious Varnado 5-10 178 Sr -- second string on bowl depth chart
LT D'Aquin Withrow 6-6 307 Sr -- started USM bowl game
RB Jordan Wright 5-11 206 R-Soph -- second string on bowl depth chart
* Classification is what they'll be for the Fall 2017 season, based on the bowl depth chart.
So, this group of guys could very well represent 10 of their 22 starters.
This group of guys could very well represent 10 or their 22 starters.
just in time for the intro of their "throw-back jersey:
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.H...90&o=4&pid=1.7
Looks like another one, Trey Ragas R-Fr, was one of their top RBs in the Spring Game.
http://www.ragincajuns.com/news/2017...?path=football
http://www.ragincajuns.com/news/2017...?path=football
LaDarrius Kidd DT 6-3 307 Jr got was in the rotation before he got hurt. Would definitely have been in-line for major playing time in 2017.
http://www.ragincajuns.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5853
Terik Miller, 6-0 215 LB Soph, based on his HS cred, he could have been looked upon as a major contributor in 2017.
http://www.ragincajuns.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5864
High School: A three-star recruit by Scout.com … rated as the No. 25 defensive back in the state of Florida and 65th in the South … had 70 tackles with seven interceptions and 11 pass breakups as a senior ... named a Super Senior by the Pensacola News Journal … recorded 58 tackles with six interceptions as a junior.
And give him a raise. $1,000,000 a year just isn't enough to fairly compensate a coach who wins 6 games a season at a Sun Belt football program.Quote:
Originally Posted by qng001
These guys will all be playing next year.
It was a "prank gone wrong". These young people! Just trying to have a little fun...
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Originally Posted by PawDawg
I hear you, but, that is one heck of a prank. At least 11 of them would have been starters for them. 11 starters arrested, AT THE SAME TIME.
Hell, LSU couldn't even match that, with all the thugs that they had!
I bet one of Huds inflatable muscles burst when he heard this news.
http://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.To...90&o=4&pid=1.7 https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...QP2AM0ljh5xo9ZGotta get back to where he was. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...sbN46kyCyvS42y
Of course they will - shoot, if this was lsu, we wouldn't even know about it. It is pretty stupid to go after such trinkets - they should have at least made it something worth more to get arrested for. But, I am sure we will see all of them playing next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
13 players and $2,400 worth of stuff. That's some poor redzone efficiency.
In all honesty, there probably is more to the story.
I have no trouble believing that 13 kids (and they are kids) took a prank too far another kid got their feelings hurt.
That's my guess, too. There's some sort of backstory to this other than 13 kids stealing $2,400 worth of stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by LATechBanjo
Or it could be 13 guys being thugs stealing from someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by LATechBanjo
Example, college kid getting beaten for shoes. 9 college students get expelled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tv9sjdXmN0
Cool, they already have their pix for next year's gameday program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
I do think it was a PAY-BACK that went wrong, but we have to remember they have some pretty dull tools in that tool box down there...
Starting with the populace and admin on the name thing, the HC his roid-rage, the skitzoh S&C coach, right on down the line -
They just can't help it....
Wow! It must go deeper than just football. I try to go to the following link and a message stating I'm trying to access a deceptive site. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
http://www.raginpagin.com/louisiana/...hp?21-FOOTBALL
Deceptive site ahead
Attackers on www.raginpagin.com may trick you into doing something dangerous like installing software or revealing your personal information (for example, passwords, phone numbers, or credit cards).
I agree. I don't think any college is immune. Alcorn State recently had 18 of its football players arrested following a brawl in the cafeteria. http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...ayers-arrestedQuote:
Originally Posted by faninmonroe
That was probably just a https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3daMvR0NeG8Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg Fan
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Originally Posted by PawDawg
One of your better posts...well done.
A) Glass houses. We've had a player arrested for attempted murder in the past. When you're dealing with 100-plus 18- to 22-year-olds, stupid decisions are made constantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cal&Ken
B) Skip thankfully has run a pretty clean ship. That hasn't always been the case of our past coaches, but we have some pretty high-character guys in the program now.
C) LSU had a reputation for running afoul of the law constantly under Les Miles. These things weren't swept under the rug. The Advocate does a really good job of finding out these things and shining a light on them. To say we wouldn't even hear about these things at LSU is either a very ignorant statement or an intentionally inflammatory one.
Jesus, stop it with the glass houses thing. We know.
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Originally Posted by theprofessor
Bring up something from almost 30 years ago. Typical of you.
lsu's crap was always ignored and will always be.
I don't know what you're talking about, but the incident I'm referring to happened 12 years ago. It was after I graduated. I was wrong, though. It wasn't attempted murder. It was murder.Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
As for the LSU stuff, I've read countless stories about LSU crime (see this from earlier today or this or this or this). It's not ignored.
whistle past graveyardQuote:
Originally Posted by qng001
I understand your point, BUT, a lot has changed in every passing year and you are relating a "former" player with "current." Come on.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by theprofessor
Former player -Quote:
Originally Posted by theprofessor
Not current player or players...
When a former student/athlete leaves our campus, we are not responsible for their actions even though we are indirectly linked
This is not the TYPICAL run in with crime down in Lafayette - by all indication it's stupidity is actually bordering on being comical - what's the old saying "you can teach the dumb but you can't fix STUPID..."
Like Billy Cannon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
Yes good example and we have several of our own, who have done as bad or worse...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool Hand Clyde
That's why I say WHISTLE AS YOU PASS THE GRAVEYARD - when they are SINGLE, stand-alone events by current student-athletes at other schools - i.e. DIU, DWI, traffic violations, theft, battery, credit-card theft, criminal mischief etal....
The USL thing appears to be something TOTALLY different - bunch of dumbasses trying to get back at a former teammate
One thing is perfectly clear, they have a very DISFUNCTIONAL locker room and team chemistry must be in the toilet
That guy looks 40-yrs old in his mug shot. :laugh: (LOL, I love saying "mug shot" for the ULL players.)Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDAWG
Well...you KNOW they aren't smart anyway, because they signed with the Leopards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
The ABC affiliate in Lafayette had a crew outside the jail as players were bonding out:
http://www.katc.com/story/35247823/u...nds-13-players
Was that a player in school on the football team or a former player?Quote:
Originally Posted by theprofessor
I understand. It is breaking news, since it's not every day that 13 players from a college football team are arrested.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
theprofessor striked again - it is always Tech's fault.
Honestly, I don't remember all the details. The story says former players. It happened in April of 2005. They played on the 2004 team. I don't know if they were still in school, graduated or dropped out by the spring quarter. It was during the same school year, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by olddog75
Nobody says it was Tech's fault. I don't blame Tech when a Tech athlete does something wrong or illegal, any more than I would blame Tech for any non-athlete student getting in trouble with the law. I don't blame ULL for this incident. My point, as others have made, is that we shouldn't throw stones at any other school regarding a situation like this. We've had our own problems, and we almost certainly will have more in the future. That's the nature of college athletics.Quote:
Originally Posted by latech
Who's 'throwing stones'? This is football sports news that I posted for people who are interested to read about and express themselves. I recall a QB who got a DWI getting muuuuuuuuch more 'stone throwing' FOR MONTHS by some of the exact same BB&B individuals who are saying "don't throw stones", "whistle past the graveyard", and whatever other clichés they wish to throw out. It is still a news story to either read or don't, but telling people to not have an opinion is just ignorant.
Well that's what they claim, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by TechAlum05
ULL has earned every stone thrown their way. Coach Hud Roid and his thug players are idiots. It took 13 Leopards to break into another student's dorm room to steal Grand Theft Auto, shoes, socks, boxers, ski cap, toenail clippers, hair lotion, $3, and other stuff. You can't make this up! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: This is after consecutive losing seasons, losing several scholarships due to major NCAA violations, and kicking a player off for an alleged rape. ULL's program is a dumpster fire, and they are paying Coach Hud Roid over $1 million/year. :laugh:
Please stop buying anything said on Ragin' Pagin. It was not a prank.
From The Advertiser: ULL police Lt. Billy Abrams on Wednesday squashed a circulating rumor that the incident was a prank. “Based on our investigation,” he said, “this was not a prank.”
And ULL ought to be taken to court over their illegal name nonsense.
Kind of a conflict of interest when ULL's sideline reporter is also a KATC reporter reporting on this story.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Historian
:laugh: Well played sir!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
IN HUD WE TRUST!! :laugh: This couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch!
40 ain't old
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Originally Posted by theprofessor
Was this player a junior or maybe a senior when he was arrested. Was he sent up for life? What happened to him?
Not just 13 players but potentially 11 starters, at one time. Can't believe that has ever happened to any NCAA football program.Quote:
Originally Posted by TechAlum05
College kids do stupid things, including really stupid pranks. This has the overwhelming feel of a STUPID prank, especially since they all grouped together to break in. If it was a robbery, there would have been just two or three guys.
College kids breaking into each other's dorm rooms, apartments and cars probably happens more than most think. I know I've done stupid stuff in college that was as stupid as this was, IF it was a prank on a friend.
I remember some friends pushed a classmate's small car into the student center early in the morning, we all had a great laugh from that when we found out :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDAWG
"pranks" are never pranks or humorous to those on the receiving end of property destruction and/or theft.
I'll post this again...Quote:
Originally Posted by DJDAWG
Please stop buying anything said on Ragin' Pagin. It was not a prank.
From The Advertiser: ULL police Lt. Billy Abrams on Wednesday squashed a circulating rumor that the incident was a prank. “Based on our investigation,” he said, “this was not a prank.”
Much better "press" with stuff like this.
http://herosports.com/news/louisiana...-stitches-aiai
Jus' Sayin' ......................
1 or 2 involved and might be inclined to see your point. But it was 13. Points to systematic issues with the culture and ethics of the football program which is part of the athletic department which is the window to the university.Quote:
Originally Posted by theprofessor
In this case, blame away.
I spent all day today in Lafayette. The ULL fans that I work with there are completely disgusted about what happened and they all want Hudspeth fired NOW. And for what it's worth, these same Cajun fans are telling me that unless the ongoing coverup efforts are successful, there will be more arrests of ULL football players that stem from a recent home invasion. These ULL fans are very involved with ULL sports and are usually in the know about the goings on over there. If they're right about this home invasion business, there are some very, very dark days ahead for ULL football.
Darker days. They're only marginally better than ULM.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
I hope they keep Hud forever!Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
Pour it on them. Dont forget...
ULL suspends 4 players for locker room video involving 'F*** Donald Trump' song
http://www.sbnation.com/college-foot...s-donald-trump
Exam fraud, recruit payments among NCAA accusations against UL-Lafayette
http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/...b42c4de52.html
So if Hud was fired, they would have to pay his remaining contract costs, plus a new coach, plus deal with all the bad press they've been receiving. He'd be payed 1M a year for the remainder of his contract term, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
Probably not if he was fired "for cause". They could think of something, with all the cheating and everything else going on. If things got bad enough they might convince him to resign to keep from being blamed and ruining his reputation, whatever that was worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearpaw
I think even I could represent him and win if he got fired for the things that happened earlier. At this point, they have no cause to fire him (that has been made public).Quote:
Originally Posted by Houston Techsan
They can't afford to fire him until the price of oil gets up a bit.:)
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Originally Posted by Houston Techsan
So assuming some big boosters are "fed-up" with Hud, and decide to stop donating towards his salary, can they? And if so, what would such a school do to pay for the guaranteed $1M/y?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Of course if I'm totally off-base on understanding coaching contracts, please let me know...
I'm not an attorney, but "for cause" was probably passed on after the testing scandal. Of course he didn't know it was going on.:laugh: They missed their chance. Here are some of the typical "for cause" listings...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearpaw
- Fraud, embezzlement, or theft;
- Willful misconduct damaging to the company, its reputation, products, services, or customers;
- Intentional violation of any law or regulation;
- Any unauthorized disclosure of any trade secret or confidential information of the company or a subsidiary;
- Continued failure to perform duties owed to the company; and
- Being charged with a felony or a misdemeanor involving moral turpitude.
If the university fired Coach Hudspeth over the NCAA violations now, then it would open up another can of worms. Why didn't ULL fire him then? What evidence came to light all of a sudden that wasn't made public way when the investigation was ongoing or ended?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
If UL-Lafayette had evidence that Coach Hud knew what was going on with the cheating scandal and covered up/didn't act on information, then I would consider that as "for cause".
Would a urine sample from Coach Roid Rage be enough cause?Quote:
Originally Posted by PawDawg
Are you saying his bench press max may be enhanced? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Interesting info-- I have been on Holtz wagon from day one and proud of the standards he has set for our program. ULL paying Hud twice as much as Holtz got until this year (from Tech)-- many of us remember the ULL days of Field Goal kicker from there went to Cowboys--they touted him all the time til he was convicted of being a pedophile-- . I have friends in Lafayette and they have seldom had anything positive to say about football program , they started leaving stadium last time we played them when Dixon went 99 yards early. I was at game they honored Jake D and we had at least twice as many fans as ULL--we had class and stood up and applauded Jake ( Saints fans).Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
too me this should be grounds for a 2017 recruit to back out of signing !! if I had a son who committed I would do everything I could to get him away from that mess. NCAA should have clause allowing de-commit under cases like this and ( Baylor-Penn etc).Quote:
Originally Posted by TechAlum05
John Wayne said, "Life is hard; it's harder if you're stupid"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne From Minden
You might remember that some months ago I was looking for an engineer to work with on a water treatment system that was in development. I was hoping to find a Tech grad, and mentioned I had a ULL guy waiting in the wings in case I could find no one else. Well, now we are on the cusp of taking our invention to market and will become a $billion company. Last week I was in Lafayette in a meeting of our investors and during a break, someone said to my ULL engineer, "you'll be able to donate $millions to the Cajuns' athletics department soon." He shook his head, and said, "Nah, I will donate to our college of engineering, but not a dime to bunch of thugs."
I said, "you could establish a bail fund to get ULL players out of jail." No thanks, he said.
The really good news is that now dawg80 you will be able to contribute millions to Tech.
Why would he send his money to Tech when he can support his Demons by sending them millions to build a new NWST basketball arena so the state taxpayers aren't on the hook and he can watch his favorite player Jalen Wilder still play in his 22nd year of eligibility at the age of 40?Quote:
Originally Posted by counselingdawg
:laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
Brave act for that small town sportswriter to write that column in that area... .but IMO he should make sure his profile picture gets reduced to about 33 percent. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by bleudog
NSU isn't getting a dime of my money. Well...they do already, indirectly, via a couple of scholarships we have set up. But, other than that, no dice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
I was gonna donate $millions to Tech, but now you have pissed me off with your asinine comments. So, no dice too. But, I'm sure you and that laughing hyena, The Historian, have Tech covered with your $millions. (:laugh:)
LSU-Shreveport? Hmmm....
Besides my first priority is upgrading my Genesis to the G90:
https://cdn.gearpatrol.com/wp-conten...ol-Sidebar.jpg
Can get it in 430hp. Full luxury interior with all the bells & whistles & gadgets, for under $80K.
I don't like that they have put an emblem on the front of the car. Boo, hiss! Original Genesis models had nothing on the front, and only a small Hyundai logo on the back. You either knew it was a Genesis...or you were a loser moron.
How bout you bribe the LSUS people to push the Tech merger through? Only way it'll ever happen ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dawg80
I concur. That photo is waaay too big.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tech77
Only if they (Tech) name a building after me. Actually, the whole Shreveport campus!Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Dawg
The Dawg80 Campus
Louisiana Tech University
Shreveport
I guess the notoriety has had an effect on the highly subjective Orlando Sentinel Countdown, USLL is in before ULM at 108 :laugh:
:laugh: you let d80 got under your skin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg06
That was a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by latech
If there is one thing I know for sure with 100% certainty, you know no ULL fans in Lafayette. I have never seen anything ULL in Lafayette.Quote:
Originally Posted by brtransplant
I find it funny that none of you are talking about the Cajun players currently on a mission trip to Africa. Or the team that helped many families after the flood last fall. Y'all should name this forum bulldogs barks & CNN with all this one sided news you got going here.
Some dudes think they are chicks too. That doesn't make it so.
...have you seen your forum? That is, assuming your fire wall will let you since it always warns about it being a deceptive site!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kent
They probably added that feature to scare off the unenlightened ;) If so, it's clever, but if not, it's downright hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by techdawg28
LOL.....dude, I don't know you bit that made me laugh so hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soonerdawg
That reminds me of the story of the chick, the horse, and the Harley!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Soonerdawg
LSU may not be ignored but is often "fixed". I seem to remember in 2011 an LSU quarterback donkey stomping someone to within an inch of their life in a nightclub. A BATON ROUGE grand jury "reduced" the felony assault charges to a misdemeanor and the player was back on the field just about the time the conference schedule kicked into full swing.Quote:
Originally Posted by theprofessor
We all know about that instance. We don't know about how many times that happens to the general public. I'm sure some of our attorneys could attest to that better than I can, but I've always been shocked at how many crimes get reduced when it's a first offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by RhinoDawg
that's gaycist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soonerdawg